The Nineteenth Byte

4:00 AM

Oh, right.

@Mego But non-mods can still do meta posts and everything. If 3 mods can do the actual moderating work of 4 just fine then a 4th is superfluous. (Sorry for suggesting we break up the dream team, hate on me etc.)

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies By that logic, we only need 1.

Calvin's Hobbies

Perhaps

Though, I'm not in favor of that because then it'll be much harder to get a hold of a mod

El'endia Starman

1 or 2 would be bad should any highly emotionally-charged issues come up.

Downgoat

Anonymous

4:03 AM

What I'm saying is, there are more factors at play than just handling the moderation workload. Having multiple mods makes it easier to get more perspectives on situations.

Downgoat

\o/

Quill

Top 100 PPCG candidates

Anonymous

Additionally, the number 1 engineering rule is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Our moderation team works very well, so there's no reason to change it IMO.

Quill

Rank User Link                    Total
---- ---------------------------- -----
1    Martin Büttner               37
3    Dennis                       33
6    Doorknob                     31
12   Alex A.                      29

Downgoat

@Quill is that sorted by rep?

Calvin's Hobbies

4:04 AM

@Quill Woo #6! Though I frankly have no real interest in modding. (@Sp3 said the same once maybe?)

Quill

@Downgoat Sorted by election candidate scores

Sp3000

Yeah, and Peter too

Downgoat

@Quill Rep was waaay to much weight then...

Sp3000

That was for last time though, not sure if things have changed

Doorknob

Some of those are... a tiny bit misleading. It's literally impossible for moderators to earn the flag-related badges. :P

Calvin's Hobbies

4:05 AM

Didn't peter enter the last election

quartata

The candidate scores are garbage.

Quill

@Doorknob yes and no. you can step down ;)

Sp3000

@Calvin'sHobbies I nominated Peter, but Peter declined after thinking about it for a few days

Anonymous

The candidate scores are as good at indicating candidate quality as A51 stats are at indicating site quality.

Downgoat

I fixed the Candidate Score SEDE Query

Quill

4:07 AM

here, with rank

New Main Posts

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Q: length of the 1st word is greater than or less than the 2nd word

prompt the user to enter 2 words. if the length of the 1st word is greater than or less than the 2nd word, rerun the program. Otherwise check if the 2nd word is the reverse of the 1st word. If it is the reverse store each letters of your 2nd word in an array else print each letters of your 1st wo...

Quill

Rank User Link                    Total BadgeCount ModBadges EditingBadges ParticipationBadges
---- ---------------------------- ----- ---------- --------- ------------- -------------------
1    Martin Büttner               17    17         6         6             5
4    Alex A.                      13    13         4         4             5
4    Dennis                       13    13         4         4             5
11   Doorknob                     11    11         3         4             4

@Quill What's this?

1 min ago, by Quill

lal mr cheese strikes again

Anonymous

4:09 AM

The candidate scores miss out on one vital detail: personality. Peter is incredibly helpful in the Sandbox and elsewhere on meta, but is much too abrasive (imo) to be a successful mod

Thomas Kwa

@xnor Do you suggest any modifications to my sandboxed challenge to move it away from the question Peter linked to?

Calvin's Hobbies

@Mego You'd think this site would like objective mod choosing criteria :P

Anonymous

@Calvin'sHobbies har har

Doorknob

Objective graduation criteria!

Quill

Disclaimer: The Candidates Score are in no way complete and binding judges of participation. They're simply a very broad way to categorise and rank you

Anonymous

4:10 AM

@Doorknob Yep, have 15 q/day average on the 1st of November

Anonymous

> Disclaimer: The Candidate Scores are in no way useful. They're simply a very pointless way to attach numbers to usernames.

Quill

Well, if you don't like it, you can categorise yourself by rep

Anonymous

There is no database query that you can do that will say "these N people should be mods"

quartata

Candidate scores are worse than ranking by rep because they imply that they have value

Geobits

Observation: Marky has some issues. Hypothesis: Several things might help. A larger data set (including more scripts of non-TNB language), decapitalization, and better tokenizing. Experiment: Lower-case everything, and add 300k lines of movie scripts and 150k lines of South Park scripts. Increase vocabulary by 40k words. Cook for three days; serve.

Alex A.

4:14 AM

@Geobits I look forward to see the result of this experiment.

The Nineteenth Byte is not the prime example of human language.

That would, of course, be South Park.

Calvin's Hobbies

@El'endiaStarman @PhiNotPi If you guys were actually thinking of running to be a PPCG mod, I'd happily support you if you can show your dedication through consistent meta posts and such. :) Yes, our current mods are fine and friendly, but naming them the definitive winners already seems a bit presumptuous, and disheartening to other contenders.

2

Quill

Or, you could feed it Reddit's Top 100 books

El'endia Starman

@Calvin'sHobbies I basically have exactly 1 Meta post. :P

(Other than those in the Sandbox, of course.)

Geobits

@Quill I thought about books, but the problem there is separating dialog from narrative. He needs dialog more than anything.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies I don't think anyone is naming the current mods the definitive winners.

Liam

4:16 AM

or he'll just be a really classy speaker

Geobits

Especially not those two mods that nobody likes.

>_>

Alex A.

Who are those?

Thomas Kwa

@AlexA. Are you sure you want to know?

Geobits

Huh? What's that? Oh, no names. I wouldn't want to stir up trouble ;)

Quill

Shhh @Geobits, don't tell them

Alex A.

4:17 AM

@ThomasKwa yes ;-;

Geobits

There's definitely not a coup happening.

quartata

I was considering running but I see no point. I actually think it would probably be bad if I won over a pro tem with more experience.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Quill We should be rating the mods by best avatar ;)

(^ SO mod with best avatar)

Geobits

That wouldn't be fair to non-Geobitses.

Quill

lol

Doorknob

4:18 AM

uh oh, if we're rating by phallicness, I don't stand a chance

Alex A.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Yeah, you willfully dropped your phallus rating.

6/10 to 2/10

Doorknob

I would try to drop it to 0/10 but then it would stop looking like a doorknob altogether

quartata

haha

Dennis

It looks more mammary than phallic right now.

Geobits

Waaaaaaaay more.

Doorknob

4:20 AM

-___-

Calvin's Hobbies

best mod avatar here - strawpoll.me/6831471

Alex A.

( ͡ ͜ʖ ͡ )

Doorknob

What? I totally didn't vote for myself. <.< >.>

1/1/1/1

Geobits

Wow, four way tie when I voted. Weird.

quartata

POLL: should doorknob switch back to his old avatar

Downgoat

4:21 AM

Should golfing-language be removed since it's not on-topic any more?

Doorknob

@quartata [status-declined]

Alex A.

@quartata Strawpoll.me or it didn't happen

Geobits

@quartata A: No, he should get something fresh.

Quill

how about we put the moderators in a pit and make them fight to the death

Alex A.

All of the pro-tems should change their usernames and avatars shortly before the election.

Quill

4:22 AM

like hunger games or something

@AlexA. change your names to each other

quartata

@AlexA. strawpoll isn't working on mobile for whatever reason

Calvin's Hobbies

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. To anothe- ninja'd. :(

Doorknob

I call being Martin

Calvin's Hobbies

sleek

Geobits

4:22 AM

@Quill Not a bad idea. Keep going until there are only modSlots-2 alive, then elect to fill in those two spots.

Quill

or have a Nethack battle

Doorknob

I fully support this

Calvin's Hobbies

Or just a code-golf challenge

Alex A.

Definitely not a code golf competition though because I'm the worst golfer among us by a large margin

Doorknob

Either Dennis or Martin would win if it were a golfing challenge.

quartata

4:24 AM

How about a quake match

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. What if it's about giant burritos?

Anonymous

Better candidate scores

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Burritos are tempting but they don't change my golfing abilities. :P

Doorknob

@Mego hahaha

I got this guy as #1

Some 101-rep user

Anonymous

Yeah everyone does

Doorknob

4:25 AM

oh, it's a seeded random thing

Anonymous

RAND() is kinda dumb in SQL

Alex A.

Denis

101

Misspelled Dennis sock?!

@Mego Yes it is.

Anonymous

It's equivalent to doing srand(0);return rand(); in C

Alex A.

In T-SQL (which SEDE uses), you can use sort by newid() with select top n.

Doorknob

irb(main):001:0> ['Martin Büttner', 'Dennis', 'Alex A.', 'Doorknob'].sort_by &:hash
=> ["Alex A.", "Dennis", "Martin Büttner", "Doorknob"]

Anonymous

4:27 AM

Even better now

Anonymous

@Doorknob Looks right to me

Calvin's Hobbies

I'd vote for

Marky Markov, Hangin' with the Funky Bunch

91 1 5

code-golf string arithmetic array-manipulation

Geobits

Best avatar ever.

Anonymous

@Calvin'sHobbies Main competition:

Anonymous

Data

51 3

code-golf fibonacci math

Quill

4:28 AM

he can't run, actually

ninja'd

there is a minimum rep to run, and neither of those two bots qualify

Doorknob

Marky for mod

41 secs ago, 27 seconds total – 6 messages, 2 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked just now by Doorknob

Geobits

What is it? I can run his up pretty quick if I try.

Anonymous

Quick sockpuppet more rep for the bots

Quill

Ok, I changed my code and I removed all of the............... BeautifulSoup. I'm doing all my DOM parsing with a single Regex. I'm so sorry, but it works so well. — Downgoat 4 mins ago

Geobits

Oh god why

Alex A.

4:29 AM

@Quill ಠ_ಠ

Quill

That's the opposite of what I suggested in my review. — Quill 5 secs ago

Alex A.

hahaha

Downgoat

@Quill That's why I said "I'm so sorry"

Quill

you can make it up to me with that green tick

Downgoat

@Quill sure :)

Quill

4:30 AM

1/4 of the stackday through and I'm nearly repcapped.

@Downgoat <3

Alex A.

I like how you accepted his answer without following his advice :P

Quill

somebody should write a language that takes game of life blocks as code

Liam

^

Downgoat

@AlexA. I followed 1/2 his advice and remove two re.subs

Anonymous

So thoughts on a new language I came up with an idea for, heavily influenced by Data and Jelly:

Geobits

4:32 AM

Is it Jata? Or Delly?

Anonymous

Each line/block is a piece of code in a language given by a label

Downgoat

@Mego What's the benefit of using multiple languages?

Geobits

I assume the label is a single byte?

Anonymous

The first line/block is code that runs the blocks in a specific order, with each output piped to the next block's input

Anonymous

@Downgoat For complex problems where different languages excel at different subproblems

Geobits

4:33 AM

Hmm. At first thought, I think that whatever separators or labels you use would cost you more than you'd gain. For most challenges at least.

Downgoat

^

Anonymous

I don't mean for this to be designed specifically for golfing :P Though it would do decently if the syntax can be made golfy

Geobits

If you do it, you have to use the name Rosetta, though. Looks like it's not taken on esolangs.org.

Anonymous

I was thinking Polyglob

Geobits

I guess that works, too ;)

Anonymous

4:36 AM

Or Shoulders

Geobits

As in 'standing on the shoulders'? I like that.

Anonymous

Standing on the shoulders of giants

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Anonymous

Yeah

Anonymous

@Downgoat ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

4:39 AM

I am bad at oneboxing

Downgoat

@Mego haha

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman imgur.com/gallery/yUQIGgO

Downgoat

@Mego github.com/vihanb/PPCG-Design/pull/43

Quill

SEDE: Top users under age 30, sorted by age, with rank

Anonymous

@Downgoat github.com/vihanb/PPCG-Design/pull/46

xnor

4:43 AM

@ThomasKwa maybe there's another feature of TI-BASIC that can be used to shorten some of the expressions?

Thomas Kwa

@xnor Hmm

Geobits

Methinks cheese is on his way to a question ban.

Thomas Kwa

TI-BASIC does have a one-byte ^3

Geobits

Two gimme-codez in an hour or so.

Alex A.

> vihanb added feature-request and removed feature-request labels a minute ago

Anonymous

4:44 AM

@Quill Doesn't work when users don't provide their age :)

Thomas Kwa

Would that be enough?

Calvin's Hobbies

in Beep Boop Maggot, 55 secs ago, by Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob can @Geobits release Marky in TNB, just for like 10 minutes?

I desire chaos

Anonymous

@Calvin'sHobbies status-never

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies >:U

Calvin's Hobbies

>:B

Geobits

4:50 AM

Is that a beaver-face?

Calvin's Hobbies

angry beaver

Geobits

I'm not sure what you mean.

Anonymous

_UNK

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Dagwood?

xnor

@ThomasKwa I think so, but I'd defer to Peter Taylor in case there's some non-obvious reduction

Liam

4:52 AM

Can someone answer this puzzle for me:

Persons A, B, and F approach you on the road and make the following statements:
A: If I am a Knight, then B is a Knave.
B: If that is true, then F is a Knave too.
what are each of A,B and F?

Thomas Kwa

@Liam Yes.

Not necessarily correctly.

Liam

someone is trying to tell me I have the wrong answer and I want to make sure I'm not crazy

Anonymous

@Liam People. No need to be so discriminatory.

xnor

@ThomasKwa i take it there's also squaring, but it's pointless because you can multiply and parens are not allowed?

Liam

@Mego ? is persons discriminatory?

Thomas Kwa