The Nineteenth Byte

Doorknob

11:00 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you should also fix that

Alex A.

No more localhost. ಠ_ಠ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob Why?

VoteToClose

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I've downvoted a linked false answer and an answer that was invalid but accepted as an answer.

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ downvotes are as important as, if not more important than, upvotes

2

Alex A.

^

Anonymous

11:00 PM

v

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob Janitors are important too. Yet you don't have to be one.

Alex A.

I've downvoted 406 times.

Anonymous

(a caret seemed wrong for this discussion)

Rainbolt

We need sideways votes. I want to officially declare that an answer is "meh".

Seadrus

ʏᴇs ʏᴏᴜ ᴅᴏ

Digital Trauma

11:01 PM

>

Seadrus

:D

Alex A.

@Rainbolt That's called neither voting up nor down. ;)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Seadrus why you take my small caps :P

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ well, that's right, you don't have to

VoteToClose

Hmm. I'm gonna make a custom keyboard entry for small caps. o-o

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:02 PM

@VoteToClose ᴀʙᴄᴅᴇғɢʜɪᴊᴋʟᴍɴᴏᴘǫʀsᴛᴜᴠᴡxʏᴢ

S is unmodified

VoteToClose

I'd find it anyway. :P

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I think that's missing the point though. Not everyone has a responsibility to be a janitor, but since the Stack Exchange network is moderated by the users, once you have expanded privileges, you have a responsibility to help better the community. Do you have to? No. But it's an important aspect of the SE network.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Granted. If you're in America and can vote, you know that you don't have to. And it is often the case that you might not vote. And yet voting is likewise important.

Alex A.

Yes, that's a good analogy. (I always vote though. ;))

As an aside, #bernie2016

VoteToClose

@Doorknob I feel like @Geobits was the one to star this.

Dennis

11:04 PM

(insert rant about how America != USA here)

TheDoctor

lol

Alex A.

@Dennis Ourmerica is best merica.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Not a bad choice ;)

VoteToClose

@AlexA. (insert anti-political opinionation of moderator rant here) ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

@AlexA. (I don't actually think that, btw. -.-)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:06 PM

We all agree anything is better Trump, right?

Anonymous

We all agree that politics are almost-surely off-topic for 19th Byte, right?

4

SuperJedi224

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ There are worse options.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@SuperJedi224 Who?

VoteToClose

@Mego Agreed.

Doorknob

@Mego it's not like this chatroom is known for being on-topic

9

VoteToClose

11:06 PM

/me flags all the political comments. ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

@VoteToClose It's my opinion. I have no qualms with voicing my opinion, though I didn't intend for it to be a topic of discussion.

@Mego And carrots are?

VoteToClose

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Alrighty.

TheDoctor

carrot.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dennis

Not the carrots again...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Bye o_o

Anonymous

11:08 PM

@AlexA. There's a significant difference between a dumb joke that lasted too long and one of the main 2 topics of flamewars

VoteToClose

Alex A.

@Doorknob uh what

VoteToClose

I learned my lesson about posting the image. :D People got tired of it.

Dennis

@Mego vim vs emacs?

Doorknob

@AlexA. I typed stuff in the wrong thing

Anonymous

11:08 PM

@Dennis Sorry, main 3 topics

TheDoctor

Alex A.

@Dennis Spaces vs. tabs and vim vs. emacs. :D

Anonymous

Politics, religion, and vim vs emacs

Doorknob

@AlexA. first option for both :P

Alex A.

@TheDoctor I literally cannot handle how adorable this is.

@Doorknob Same ;)

Anonymous

11:09 PM

@AlexA. Spaces vs tabs isn't a flamewar topic, both sides have to have valid arguments

Dennis

@AlexA. Tabs and nano.

Anonymous

Spaces and Notepad++

VoteToClose

@AlexA. You cannot... even?

Alex A.

@Mego If you don't think it's a flamewar topic, you weren't around for the multiple challenges, voting things off topic, etc.

TheDoctor

@Dennis tabs and Atom

Alex A.

11:10 PM

Spaces and Atom.

Anonymous

@AlexA. see: trolling

Anonymous

Atom is nice, but I haven't gotten used to it yet

El'endia Starman

... ahem...have we forgotten gif vs. jif?

Anonymous

Only started using it like a month ago

TheDoctor

@Mego !!!!!

Doorknob

11:11 PM

@Dennis when I went to CodeDay and one of the people was presenting, he used nano to edit some text files. My partner and I looked at each other and said "... NANO?!" :P

TheDoctor

ATOM == BEST

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman That argument has an easy solution: HTML5 video

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman my opinion: who cares :P

Alex A.

Jif is peanut butter, GIF is a file format. They are not pronounced the same way.

Anonymous

@TheDoctor I like Atom, I just need to get used to it so I'm as efficient in it as I am in Notepad++

TheDoctor

11:11 PM

@Doorknob the average code newb doesn't vim very well, i might imagine

El'endia Starman

@Mego Which is near synonymous with .webm aaand... .gifv.

Dennis

@Doorknob What's wrong with nano? :P I actually use that most of the time.

Doorknob

@TheDoctor his presentation was about how he built a cluster computing thingy by hooking up three Arduinos, hardly a "code newb"

Alex A.

@Dennis You should try Atom. I actually really recommend it.

TheDoctor

:25367209

Doorknob

11:12 PM

@Dennis well, uh, it's... nano :P

Alex A.

haha

Anonymous

As far as pronouncing file extensions, we should take the xkcd approach

Anonymous

Make it unpronounceable

TheDoctor

@Doorknob 3 arduinos = ...? like an apple 2 with less ram ??

Doorknob

ever heard of this thing called "fun"

Anonymous

11:13 PM

I hereby dictate that the official file extension for Seriously code is dsjfk

Anonymous

@Doorknob It's Mandatory

Alex A.

@Mego It isn't .srsly?

El'endia Starman

@Mego -1 should be 3 characters.

TheDoctor

@Mego better make it *.qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm

El'endia Starman

...I like Alex's idea a lot more.

Anonymous

11:14 PM

@AlexA. Actually I've been using .srs

Dennis

@AlexA. It looks nice. I hope it's a Qt application.

Alex A.

@Dennis It isn't

Dennis

GTK?

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman -1 no need to run it on DOS

TheDoctor

anyone here doing CyberPatriot?

El'endia Starman

11:14 PM

@Mego File extensions are still usually 3 characters these days...

Alex A.

@Dennis Built on JavaScript. Idk what's running at the lowest level but it's open source, so you can check on GitHub. (It was made by GitHub!)

Anonymous

And by "using .srs" I mean I made one file for testing file input, and use REPL/online normally

TheDoctor

> .java

Anonymous

> .c

Dennis

> Categories=GNOME;GTK;Utility;TextEditor;Development;

Alex A.

11:15 PM

> usually

^

(insert frowny face)

@Dennis Huh?

> what about unix files with no extension, huh?

El'endia Starman

> .cpp

Alex A.

11:16 PM

@TheDoctor This bothers me so much

Dennis

@AlexA. A quote from the .desktop file of Atom. It's GTK.

TheDoctor

> .py

Anonymous

> I think you replied to the wrong message

Alex A.

@Dennis Okay. Is that bad?

TheDoctor

@Mego oh well

El'endia Starman

11:16 PM

> .pyc

Dennis

@AlexA. Not by itself, but it doesn't interface as well with KDE as Qt would.

TheDoctor

@El'endiaStarman who even uses pyc

Anonymous

@TheDoctor ಠ_ಠ

TheDoctor

> .egg_info

Anonymous

> .wheel

El'endia Starman

11:17 PM

@TheDoctor It's the compiled version of .py.

> .whl

TheDoctor

@El'endiaStarman i knew that

Anonymous

> .gitignore

Alex A.

@Dennis I still think it's worth giving it a try. Looks and feels very nice, and there are packages galore for it.

El'endia Starman

@Mego That's not a file extension. That's a file name.

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman It's a file extension with a 0-length file name

Doorknob

11:18 PM

uhhh no

Anonymous

@TheDoctor Nope, .git is the folder

Doorknob

.gitignore is not 0-length

TheDoctor

^

@Mego no, the dot is for hidden files, not the extension

Anonymous

'.'.join([filename,fileext])

Anonymous

@TheDoctor shh

Doorknob

11:19 PM

@Mego what?

Anonymous

> .class

Doorknob

the file name is .gitignore which is most definitely longer than 0

Anonymous

> .stackdump

El'endia Starman

> usually

Alex A.

Are we just naming file extensions now?

Anonymous

11:20 PM

We're pointing out that @El'endiaStarman's claim that file extensions are usually 3 characters is inaccurate

TheDoctor

@AlexA. arguing, not naming

Anonymous

There are a ton of file extensions that are not 3 characters

TheDoctor

^

Doorknob

infinitely many, in fact

El'endia Starman

@Mego There are a ton^2 of file extensions that are.

@Doorknob in use

Doorknob

11:21 PM

finintely many

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman citation-needed

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman oh :P

define "use"?

El'endia Starman

1 min ago, by El'endia Starman

> usually

Digital Trauma

@Mego how much do file extensions weigh?

Alex A.

Yeah. There are a lot of file extensions of varying length. Who cares.

Anonymous

11:21 PM

@DigitalTrauma 1 gram per byte

TheDoctor

@DigitalTrauma planck weight - 1

Anonymous

@TheDoctor I'm too old

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob See Wikipedia page I've linked twice already... :P

Anonymous

@AlexA. We had to argue about something, the room was too peaceful

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman sorry I wasn't really following the conversation :P

anOKsquirrel

11:23 PM

I keep getting pinged, what?

oh wait I turned desktop notifications on

El'endia Starman

LOL.

44 mins ago, by trichoplax

@anOKsquirrel Then the same way to turn it off in fury 5 minutes later

anOKsquirrel

@El'endiaStarman yep

El'endia Starman

the wind howls...

Doorknob

it was a dark and stormy night

Anonymous

This is what happens when pointless arguments get ended :P

El'endia Starman

11:30 PM

I'm still waiting for you to concede the victory to me... :P

anOKsquirrel

so now I realize that if I keep having tokens in scg be dicts, it's going to be really frustrating. on with OOP

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman I don't think you understand how us Texans work

Anonymous

Thanks for the star Doorknob

El'endia Starman

@Mego Ah, right. Everything is bigger in Texas. Including your egos. :P

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman especially our egos

Anonymous

11:35 PM

Mine is the size of a million normal egos

Anonymous

Hence "Mego"

Doorknob

@Mego none of the messages currently on the starboard were starred by me :P

anOKsquirrel

@Mego not always. just most of the time :p

El'endia Starman

@Mego Wouldn't that be "megaego" though? :P

....."mego" sounds better.

Anonymous

SI prefix abbreviations

Anonymous

11:36 PM

M = Mega

El'endia Starman

AH.

"ME"!

Alex A.

How did we get so many Texans in here?

El'endia Starman

They invaded.

With their guns.

Anonymous

@AlexA. Seriously

anOKsquirrel

@AlexA. They think Texans have no social life, because everyone thinks that Texans live in the middle of nowhere.

wait, that doesn't make sense

Alex A.

11:37 PM

I don't think that

anOKsquirrel

It happens because Texans have nothing to do :P

Rainbolt

That's only West Texas

anOKsquirrel

yeah

Rainbolt

Which, granted, is the size of quite a few states

El'endia Starman

Srsly though, take a look at the area around the Mississippi River on Google Maps, satellite view. SO MANY FARMS.

anOKsquirrel

11:38 PM

not everywhere tho!

Alex A.

I assume all Texans drive enormous pickup trucks, wear cowboy hats, and own guns. And I assume at least 60% own cattle.

anOKsquirrel

@AlexA. nope

Alex A.

Disclaimer: I've never been to Texas.

Doorknob

@AlexA. you are very wrong :P

anOKsquirrel

yep

El'endia Starman

11:39 PM

@AlexA. What states have you visited?

Anonymous

@AlexA. I drive a Chevy 2-door, don't wear hats because they're uncomfortable, and don't own a gun or have a license. No cattle, just cats.

Rainbolt

@AlexA. My dad owns cattle. My product owner also owns cattle.

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman Just the good ones. :P

anOKsquirrel

@Mego Hats suck :p

El'endia Starman

@Mego I expect the cats are big enough to be cattle.

Faraz Masroor

11:40 PM

hey guys i have a cjam question

anOKsquirrel

@FarazMasroor go!

Faraz Masroor

Is there an operator for less than or equal to?

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman I suspect one of them is half-bobcat, so sort of

anOKsquirrel

@FarazMasroor no

Faraz Masroor

dang

anOKsquirrel

11:40 PM

use >!

Anonymous

@FarazMasroor >!?

Faraz Masroor

okay thanks

El'endia Starman

@Mego That's kind of a weird emoticon. :P

anOKsquirrel

welcome

Faraz Masroor

and another question, I have a fuzz program written (Fizz for even numbers), heres the code:

Anonymous

11:41 PM

shameless plug Seriously has ≤

Faraz Masroor

1 {_ 10>!}{_ 2%{_}{"Fizz"}?\ )}w;

El'endia Starman

@Mego Also, this message's id number is divisible by 1000! (Not 1000 factorial.)

anOKsquirrel

@FarazMasroor remove those spaces

Alex A.

Are spaces no-ops in CJam?

anOKsquirrel

@AlexA. ye

Faraz Masroor

11:42 PM

yeah i'll do that but my question is this: the output is 1Fizz3Fizz5Fizz etc, but I want to put the numbers and fizzes onto new lines. I tried doing N"Fizz"N but it didn't work, so how do i put the outputs on enw lines?

anOKsquirrel

@FarazMasroor uh...

going to run your code

Faraz Masroor

So what do you think?

anOKsquirrel

welp, using online one crashes so...

;P

try printing the value using p each time or something

Faraz Masroor

Aha

That was a good idea