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12:01 AM
WOW I ACTAULLY STARRED SOMETHING
 
So it does reset at 5pm
 
no
it resets at 0:00 UTC
 
for me at least
 
Pacific Time, brosky
 
12:04 AM
MST here
 
19:04 < aarslan_> We should get [tag:alex-is-tasty] going
 
@Calvin'sHobbies IT WAS AN ACCIDENT
 
Can I shamelessly plug the PPCG Minecraft server?

 PPCG Minecraft Server

Server closed. Files: github.com/HelkaHomba/ppcgmc1.9 New serv...
 
12:06 AM
Join us!
 
there should be a PPCG Nethack server
because Nethack > Minecraft
ducks
 
quack
 
QUACK
 
:24990492 No
 
12:10 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies Better question, you the owner?
 
He maintains the PPCG Minecraft Server, if that's what you mean.
 
@AlexA. Oh.
 
@AlienG Yeah. Lots of people have donated to keep it up.
 
And then get unwhitelisted for inactivity u_u
 
@AlexA. And get added again 2 mins after asking >.>
 
12:12 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies Good thing you aren't using bungeecoord :D
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Yes
 
@Calvin'sHobbies btw quick question: do you know if any more signs have stopped falling ever since I put the overhang on the sorter?
Or are all the item frames gone now?
 
@Sp3000 Last I saw a ton of the frames were missing
 
Vandals
 
12:18 AM
user image
2
 
dogs are wonderful (thedoctor excluded)
5
 
yes i am
 
@TheDoctor Is that you? :3
 
Hmm damn, will put that roof on one day :/ (holidays soon!)
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ maybe
 
12:20 AM
@TheDoctor Hmmm....
 
@TheDoctor You're the second one failing at it, aren't you?
 
@MartinBüttner and @Optimizer do you guys mind if I use the leaderboard code from your Random ASCII Art of the Day series for a series that I am working on?
 
Betchya they wont mind
 
still want to ask just in case they do
 
12:44 AM
@TheDoctor wat
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ neat! Also happy that I pronounced it right without looking at how
 
@GamrCorps Nice one ^_^ approving thumb
 
For certain definitions of "language" :P
 
@Sp3000 Oh well. this was accepted as a language, that must be.
 
Personally I wouldn't consider that one a language either, more an encoding. But who am I to decide? :P
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It's easy to make programming languages. Not so easy to make them good or useful. :P
 
@El'endiaStarman Granted. Though 2/3 of mine are useful. Sacred is a joke.
 
whats the third one?
 
1:05 AM
really? I never knew that.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Nary seems like it might be a meta-language.
 
@El'endiaStarman It sort of is. But it's practical.
 
I'm going to cast my vote for "Nary doesn't qualify as a programming language"
 
strawpoll it
 
Well, MetaGolfScript isn't much liked.
 
Nary might run afoul of that particular loophole (generalized).
 
Lol. On my profile page I have it classified as a joke, calm down. ಠ_ಠ
 
I gotcha Conor
 
Having said that, I wouldn't really count Unary/Lenguage either, but shrugs that one's better received for some reason
 
1:09 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You need to add Simplex.
 
@El'endiaStarman Ik. I haven't gotten a stable enough of an implementation nor the time.
 
Just add a stub?
 
@Sp3000 You are wonderful. I sincerely mean that. I never thought of that :P
 
I'd add all the commands as well, but like you I'm in the "not really stable, things will probably change" stage too
 
BTW I can't wait until Gol><> becomes stable
 
1:12 AM
I wonder if I will ever beat Sp3000 at Gol><> and/or if he will ever beat me at Minko. :P
 
the twentieth byte
 
I'm sure Minko's better at some things atm, e.g. recursion's more painful for Gol><>
 
the e^pi - pi th byte
 
the e^(pi*i) + 20 th byte
 
Actually, it's probably better that Nary isn't a programming language. Looking at this question, it'd score 5 bytes ಠ_ಠ if done properly
 
1:15 AM
btw @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ one thing I'm curious is about is why your Simplex dropsort is so long
 
@Sp3000 1) I don't have support for tuple-inputs/eval. 2) Merely accessing the element from within the map function costs 2 bytes. 3) Simplex is Brainfuck, except golfier.
 
You can read one int at a time though, right?
 
Yeah, u{vnRux} o_o I'm sure there's a way to make that down to about ~4 bytes, but I haven't found it yet.
 
o_O
 
Whoops. Wrong command put. It should be u{viRux}
 
1:19 AM
Is that a loop or is it just a single get-integer-from-input?
 
@El'endiaStarman {...} is a loop, and loops until } is met whilst the pointer is on a zero-cell
 
holy frick what have I become!? I know Simplex better than I know JavaScript! Ahhhhhh
 
....well yeah, you made it.
 
I know, but it's still creepy. It's like knowing your daughter/son better than your wife/husband.
 
1:23 AM
.......that's an interesting metaphor and not one I would've chosen. :P
 
It's the first one that came to mind ;-; any suggestions?
 
Three dashes.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ No, because I don't think it's weird or creepy. :P
 
@El'endiaStarman Omg thanks XD and huh.
strike------througs
 
Its like knowing the back of your hand better than you know your address
 
Nope. Cannot strikethrough a single dash. :P
 
1:25 AM
--- - ---
 
I... think I know my address better :P
 
Same.
:P
 
Well then you don't have this problem
 
@GamrCorps XD
 
I'd say I know Python and Minkolang about equally well. The reason being that I don't actually fully know how Minkolang should behave in all possible situations.
 
1:27 AM
I know Snowman better than Haskell
(I don't know Haskell)
 
@Doorknob I was about to say...!
 
I know {language I know} better than {language I don't}
 
I know ES6 better than ES5 :P
 
I'd say I still know Python better, but still not as well as I need to
 
1:30 AM
My top three languages are Java (for useful things) and CJam (for competitions) and [unnamed language] (that I am developing)
 
@GamrCorps You should name it after me.
 
Alienguage.
 
Mothership
 
Aliengorithm
 
1:32 AM
that might do
 
@GamrCorps You need to spell it Mᴏᴛʜᴇʀsʜɪᴘ
 
Of course
 
No, please, don't make it near-untypable with a standard keyboard...
 
I'm listening to a song where every other beat sounds like a ping.
ᴜsɪɴɢ ᴀ ᴋᴇʏʙᴏᴀʀᴅ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ
 
I can only ping @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ because @C brings up his name as the first auto-complete...
3
 
1:33 AM
ᴊᴜsᴛ ʙᴇ ɢʟᴀᴅ ᴍʏ ɴᴀᴍᴇ ʜᴀs ᴀ ᴄᴀᴘɪᴛᴀʟ ʟᴇᴛᴛᴇʀ ɪɴ ɪᴛ.
 
👽Mᴏᴛʜᴇʀsʜɪᴘ👽
 
I'm very glad, indeed.
You might have technical problems with that. Like ><>.
 
(Aɴᴅ ʙᴇsɪᴅᴇs, ɪᴛ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ sʜᴏᴡ ᴜᴘ ᴡʜᴇɴ ʏᴏᴜ ᴛʏᴘᴇᴅ @, ʟɪᴋᴇ @ಠ_ಠ ᴀɴᴅ @ΚριτικσιΛίθος)
 
(As in, the Esolangs page is "Fish".)
Yeah.
 
I hate Simplex sometimes. Copying a string from one strip to another is this: sdRlMy@u&yᴠy.
 
1:38 AM
Sounds like a job for a built-in! :P
 
@El'endiaStarman that awkward moment when all the characters are used
 
Time to re-assign some of them!
Or start using two-character commands.
Minkolang had $ as a functionality toggle early on and that definitely helped me save characters to be assigned later.
 
@El'endiaStarman AFAIK the only way to do that is to reserve a character to indicate one.
 
or map 2+ commands to certain characters like CJam (I dont know simplex so I don't know if this will work or not)
 
1:40 AM
Most of those are going to go bye-bye soon though, when I implement a bunch of useful features.
 
@GamrCorps You mean like mapping command X to a character, say, Δ?
 
For example (In CJam), % has like 3 different functions: mod, split, and map, depending on what is on the top of the stack
 
Oh, yeah, I've done that.
Though Simplex only has two data types: numbers (interpreted as integers and reals) and tuples.
 
...now I've started considering making it possible to have lists and strings as elements on the stack...
 
@GamrCorps A string is a list of ASCII codes.
 
@GamrCorps No. It's like Brainfuck (^)
 
Oh, I see
 
And really, the "string" command in simplex turns the strip into this: [s ASCII value, t ASCII value...]
Well, this is my uniqchar: sdRlMy@u&yᴠy{@uz{R}lMyR&^Q?[&s]}
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Is that where you print out only unique characters (of the input string)?
 
1:45 AM
@El'endiaStarman Yup. I could probably do something with mapping now that I think about it
 
...[slow grin]...
$oS$O.
 
Lemme guess. Minkolang is under ten bytes
WAIOEJDASIUFHATKwfsbtwaniSK;v JIEFWHG USFga2⌊ℝ∴∫⌈⊃∩⊇v
 
:D
Before last night, it would've been I[o]S(O)..
 
Those six characters hurt me deeply XD
 
hehehe
S does the magic. It's the remove-duplicates command.
The mnemonic is "set".
 
1:47 AM
Idt you can use builtins
 
If you want the unique characters to be sorted, then it's $oSs$O..
 
"No built-ins for finding unique elements in an array can be used"
 
ah, okay then
 
35
Q: Type uniqchars!

Luis MendoGiven a string consisting of printable ASCII chars, produce an output consisting of its unique chars in the original order. In other words, the output is the same as the input except that a char is removed if it has appeared previously. No built-ins for finding unique elements in an array can be...

 
1:50 AM
@El'endiaStarman I had that then chucked it out cos 2D CJam is boring :(
 
I[od0q7&12~G1p!x], I think.
 
hRlMy]sh^Zuh&R^_^Q?[^_s]] Simplex again; doing a lot better with the fold command.
My life is complete. I finally have an emoji in a simplex program :D
 
Multiple even
 
@mınxomaτ Where?
 
1:57 AM
^ no nested brackets?!
Final version, added a builtin for tuple conversion: s^o^Zu^o&R^_^Q?[^_s]]
Now there's three emotes :D
 
@El'endiaStarman I love to see that interpreter in slow mode just run through the code
 
:)
$I[xod0q6&dO1r0p]. Golfed off a byte. :P
 
I feel like you could golf off a few more if you did it like my ><> answer
 
@GamrCorps I'm planning on adding what each instruction does to the "Current instruction:" line too!
 
2:07 AM
Oh that would be so cool!
 
@Sp3000 I do use the codebox.
 
I have good news and bad news: the bad news is, I forgot my fold command has a local scope. The good news is, I saved 5 chars ಠ_ಠ
 
ah hahaha
 
Yeah, but I mean more ds in there and less 6& :P
 
hmm
@Sp3000 15 bytes. od?.dd0q?O1r0px
 
2:14 AM
:)
 
Haha, CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ is over here crying because his Simplex solution is twice as long. :P
 
s^o^Z^[%_Q]?[^_s^~M^=]] ;---;
 
23 bytes. Okay, not really twice as long.
 
2:15 AM
s^[oZ%_Q]?[^_s^~M^=]] :D
 
Though I'm going to hate myself when I end up making the interpreter.
 
14!!=14*12*10*8*6*4*2=645120. Finally, I'm winning :P
 
hahaha
!!!!!! 13 bytes!!! @Sp3000! od?.dd0q?Od0p
Tied!
 
2:21 AM
v miserable answer
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A: Type uniqchars!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴSimplex v.0.7, 22 bytes sigh Minkolang is kicking Simplex's butt. s^[oZ%_Q]n?[^_s^~M^=]] s ~~ string input ^[ ] ~~ postfixes each of the inner with a ^ o ~~ convert to tuple Z ] ~~ fold % ~~ tupl...

 
If there's no NULs in the input, I can get 12 :P
 
Thanks for the upvote @El'endiaStarman (guess) :D
 
@Sp3000 What do you get on EOF?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yup, that was me. :)
 
-1 on EOF, but E doesn't check for that any more
Still working out what to do on EOF actually, now that that's changed
 
Gotcha. I get 0 on EOF, so I wouldn't be able to distinguish NULs.
Unless I do $I.
NUL-safe: $I?.odd0q?Od0p . 14 bytes.
 
2:26 AM
Actually what am I thinking, iE;:::2gZo2p would work with NULs anyway :/
... wait no it wouldn't
Oh right, the reason it doesn't work with NULs is because it puts (char) at (char, 2)
 
Oh wait. OH WAIT. cackles
 
I wonder if it would be sensible to do a "use a feature of your language that doesn't get used often" popcon.
 
@El'endiaStarman 8 bytes: s^oR^l^R
 
I want a reason to actually utilize the other two dimensions of my language...
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ .....how.
 
Closed as: too broad
 
2:31 AM
@El'endiaStarman Haha I forgot about tuple intersection.
 
ahh
So that's the same trick as the winning 2-byte Golfscript answer?
 
@El'endiaStarman ...oh. Yes, it is XD
 
Well, good on you for rediscovering it! :D
(That's not sarcastic or facetious.)
 
Thanks :3 I've got so many commands I've forgotten about them
 
I question the "I know Simplex better than..." quote now
 
2:33 AM
(Oh, of course. You're a nice person, I can tell.)
@Sp3000 I know Simplex v.0.6-.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That's a minor issue for me too. :P
 
@El'endiaStarman I kinda want to do some absolutely BS stuff with "object-oriented Perl"
 
@El'endiaStarman Forgot a command, so it's closer to yours:
s^oR^l^Ryg
s          ~~ string input
 ^o        ~~ convert to tuple
   R       ~~ go right
    ^l     ~~ unicode tuple
      ^R   ~~ take intersection
        yg ~~ convert to string and output
 
Alright people, I need to do my two projects.
Good night!
 
2:37 AM
night
 
(And @El'endiaStarman I can't say how much I love minkolang. I've been playing around with it. I say Minkolang >= Simplex.)
 
Night all, I'm off too.
 
night as well
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :D
I'm honored. :)
New language idea: Amalgam. Takes the unique features of Simplex, Vithy, Pyth, CJam, Gol><>, Minkolang, etc. and smushes them together. :P
 
Gol><>?
 
2:49 AM
@El'endiaStarman Thats pretty much what my new language is (which I guess we decided to call mothership), except mainly CJam and Pyth than the others.
 
@quartata @Sp3000's pet language. A golf-ish version of ><>.
(The language name is a great pun, by the way.)
 
It's iterally Sp's pet. It lives in a ><> tank in Sp's bedroom.
 
Oh hello there Alex! :P
 
I've been here the whole time.
But hi. :P
 
Oct 24 at 19:06, by El'endia Starman
^ how I know Alex is here.
 
2:51 AM
I trapped him in an IRC channel for a while. :P
 
I couldn't escape the Intense Radio Camp.
I assume that's what IRC stands for.
 
of course
So for Spanish class we got an assignment to draw a picture using impersonal "se" (basically passive voice).
One of the examples was: "Se prohíbe comer a otra persona" (you are prohibited from eating another person)
 
Seems like an unnecessary restriction. It worked for the Donner Party.
 
In the drawing, a stick figure was saying "Tú eres mi almuerzo" (you are my lunch) as he ate another stick figure
O_o
 
The Donner Party (sometimes called the Donner-Reed Party) was a group of American pioneers led by George Donner and James F. Reed who set out for California in a wagon train. Delayed by a series of mishaps and mistakes, they spent the winter of 1846–47 snowbound in the Sierra Nevada. Some of the migrants resorted to cannibalism to survive. The journey west usually took between four and six months, but the Donner Party was slowed by following a new route called Hastings Cutoff, which crossed Utah's Wasatch Mountains and Great Salt Lake Desert. The rugged terrain, and difficulties encountered while...
 
2:56 AM
yes, I am well aware :P
 
(Included for the sake of those unaware)
Are you going to post your drawing in chat?
 
uhhhhh
 
You really should.
 
probably not?
 
o no
ok
 
2:57 AM
unless a disproportionate number of people enjoy looking at terrible drawings :P
 
Official PPCG Poll: Who wants to see Doorknob's passively voiced Spanish art?
 
crickets
 
sure I'll see it
 
Disproportionate = 2, so woot
 
that's... not the definition, last time I checked >.>
 
3:04 AM
translate: disproportionato
(from English) disproportionato
Confirmed
 
well ok, but it's unfinished and it's terrible...
You are prohibited from bringing dogs to class
 
This is educational discrimination at its worst.
 
:O
(sorry Dogtor)
 
How are these dogs ever going to make something out of themselves without a decent education?
Doomed to a life of servitude, if not outright slavery.
 
disclaimer: that is an attempt at drawing my own dog in the picture. He seems to be very happy with sleeping 80% of the day
 
3:10 AM
I'm sure he finds happiness where he can, even with so many opportunities denied him.
 
3:26 AM
@TheDoctor IRL ^
Spoopy @TheDoctor
@TheDoctor complaining about stars
Hey @Geobits, the official Google style guide for Java says no tabs. :)
 
They also say that you should put a space in ) {, but that's stupid.
 
3:41 AM
...is it?
if (geobits.isWrong()) {
 
Yes, it really, really is stupid.
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
Also, I don't work for Google, so their style guide doesn't impact me much ;)
 
sigh
Oh, was your mom ever able to get the WMAs working?
 
Hmm, I don't know. Haven't talked to her today. That's probably a good sign.
 
3:54 AM
@AlexA. Can we have a pic of a small dog standing on the back of a large dog?
 
Now the same but with elephants
 
Woo, 4k rep
imma edit all the tag wikis now
 
4:19 AM
Screw your "shortest code", I'm ><>ing this! :D — ConfusedMr_C Sep 26 at 4:28
DEJA-VU!
(Well, not really, but see:)
Screw your "shortest code wins", I'm Befunge'ing this! — El'endia Starman Sep 22 at 4:33
 
4:42 AM
I'm drafting an "interpret this dialect of Lisp" question... the spec is getting really long, tho, even though I made the language as simple as I could. Maybe it's bloated because I'm trying to cover all the edge cases upfront. Think anyone will be interested in tackling it?
 
@DLosc Do you have it in the sandbox?
I don't know Lisp, so I'd be a good test subject reviewer, I think. :P
 
@ThomasKwa Congrats!
 
Oh, yes, ^.
 
@El'endiaStarman Not yet sandboxed--still working on it.
 
5:29 AM
@Dennis I just realized 4k is about 2/3 of the rep you'll earn just this month
 
Hello! I want to answer a golf question in Scratch, and I'm trying to figure out how to score it. I found a meta post (http://meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/673/golfing-from-scratch) about it, but there's no accepted answer, and the highest-scoring one only has 3 points.
What should I do?
 
@GamrCorps not sure if martin replied, but the leaderboard code is meant to be reused.
@timothymh link to your answer?
 
@Optimizer I haven't posted it, since I don't have a byte count yet.
 
ok, link to the language?
 
5:44 AM
ah, we already have some answers in this language
 
Ah, okay, I'll do that then. Thanks!
 
some answers simply mentioned X blocks for questions which were not code-golf
though you dont need to mention at all in those cases
 
6:05 AM
Haha, I knew this was by @Martin by just looking at the name:
> The Combinatorics of Transistor
 
^ What's a good name for that pattern?
How??
 
Imagination :P
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Circles everywhere!
Also, it looks like it's recursive. Am I right?
Yeah, it's totally a recursive pattern.
I want to see level 3! :P
 
@El'endiaStarman Yeah. It could have more levels but I didn't want to edit them in.
 
But anyway, what do you mean by "name"?
 
6:11 AM
I'm making a for it and I need a title like "Draw Fancy Circles"
 
Gotcha.
"Partially nest circles, recursively!"
 
The recursion won't be part of the challenge :/
 
oh :(
"Overflowing nests"?
 
"Weird circle thingy"?
 
6:25 AM
@Optimizer Finished! Thanks for the advice.
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A: 1, 2, Fizz, 4, Buzz

timothymhScratch, 203 bytes Bytes counted from the golfed textual representation, per this meta post.

 
6:49 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies the context was that somebody wanted to add a logic-based challenge and couldn't find anything similar, but I found a (probable) duplicate because I remembered aspects of it; I suggested adding this tag to make it easier
I'm pretty sure there are more challenges that fit the tag, but not most challenges, as (IMO) this is supposed to be for problems about logical deduction, not just involving logical deduction
 
Is there a way to get around the 15 char minimum for question titles? I've got 14
@Doorknob would know this
 
unicode?
insert zero-width space..
 

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