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12:00 AM
Or 5x+313 points.
OK, gotta go upvote all those questions and answers...
 
@Victor which question?
 
Fun
 
happy new UTC day! :P
 
I am going through a bunch of older questions so I can earn vox populi.
5 votes left, only about 6 answers voted on.
Daily vote limit reached. Come back again in 23 hours...
 
12:13 AM
lol
 
Still no vox populi :(
 
well that was quick
 
Does it have to be only questions?
How about a limited version of a Moodle app as a challenge?
Do I need to do a downvote to earn vox populi?
 
IDK
Moodle would be tough...ish. Definitly tough to test
 
12:28 AM
That looks like a cross between JDK (Java) and IDE.
 
What about it?
 
It's the longest code golfed ive ever seen
 
That is not a golf question.
 
BTW 2000 rep
But it's golfed
 
12:33 AM
So?
 
TheDoctor, Somewhere inside my TARDIS
2k 1 7 31
 
I am busy trying to get vox populi on meta.
 
Have fun.
 
Three votes left.
 
I will get Fanatic in 2 days. :P
I just got it today on meta.SO.
 
12:37 AM
I earned Suffrage on meta, but came to the message "You ran out of votes, try again in 23 hours"
I will get Fanatic in 32 days.
 
gtg to eat, bye all
 
I only have 16 days straight on meta.
Bye.
Got to go eat too. Bye.
 
1:02 AM
@TheDoctor Congratulations.
 
1:24 AM
I'm back
@TheDoctor yay, we need more vote-to-delete-ers around here
:D
 
Hooray!!!
I earned Vox Populi in both the main site and meta!
 
2:01 AM
@Doorknob Are you going to restart your chatbot?
 
@user2509848 right, forgot about that. It does eat up quite a bit of API quota :/ maybe soon, right now I'm working on something else
 
OK, what is the API quota?
 
daily amount of API calls
(max)
 
Oh.
 
2:37 AM
whew That was fun!
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A: Program that prints mirror images of it's own self

DoorknobRuby This one definitely took me a while. But it was really fun! # e= "/+ +d.f /(.-. e*0*,+ (*1*e/* ...

 
2:51 AM
Nice.
 
3:08 AM
@Doorknob 3 days left for me. It'd be a shame to quit now.
 
@doorknob what is the API quota?
 
1 hour ago, by Doorknob
daily amount of API calls
 
No, how much is it?
 
@TheDoctor 300
(without an access token)
 
Does anyone know if these regex's are valid?: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/22682/9498 I know that in regex, / is not a metacharacter, but I've never dealt with regexes that are wrapped in /'s before.
 
3:21 AM
I think if it's the delimiter for the whole expression, then you would need to escape it inside.
Otherwise the expression terminates after the second one, right?
 
anybody here?
 
Yes
From the ref in the teapot question, I found a link to the origin of that photo of a girl in a hat that's in all the 80s graphics books. web.archive.org/web/20010407203809/http://…
 
4:06 AM
It's in all the 80s books because it was in all the 70s papers!
 
I always thought it's Lena.jpg, not Lenna
 
Yes. The 2 n's is to help American's pronounce it correctly.
s/American's/Americans/
There's a well-known jazz singer named Lena Horne ("lee-na"). So most US readers would pronounce it that way.
 
"Aoife" :P
That's a name, it reads like ee-fah
 
4:28 AM
@user2509848 only 897 in the SO CV queue!!
 
 
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5:45 AM
@TheDoctor What?
I don't have access to any SO queues, so I don't know quite what you mean.
Oh, the Close Vote queue? Nice.
 
Is that the real total, or just the 4-vote bracket?
 
If that was how many were in OUR close vote queue, I'd have the Reviewer badge, and be close to the Steward badge.
By the way, there is something in the Suggested Edits queue right now, if somebody wants to nab it.
 
6:01 AM
done
What about this: An APL-only popularity contest to implement all of Ramanujan's theorems. ?
 
Why APL only?
@luserdroog
 
For uniformity of presentation, I think it should be a single language.
And ...
Not sure I have good reasons, but APL seems like a good choice.
 
But what do you mean by "implement [...] theorems"?
 
I only remember C++ enough to do anything with, and I don't have Java or Python on my system anymore.
 
Hm. good question. I suppose I was imagining they'd all translate naturally to functions.
 
6:09 AM
It sounds interesting, but I don't know APL.
 
Perhaps the site should be bigger before doing single-language challenges.
I don't know much, but I just finished reading Iverson's Elementary Functions.
They're super-cheap on amazon.
 
Even someone my parent's age didn't know what APL was when I mentioned it last week, and they are a programmer themselves.
 
It does seem to be a kind of "deep dark secret"
But it's really a regularized math notation.
 
Oh, I thought it was a full language.
Top hit for APL: apl.com/wps/portal/apl
 
It is.
But the key to understanding it (IMO) is its relation to math notation without precedence.
 
6:12 AM
And where could I find a compiler?
 
I actually don't know how to do that yet.
I just finished the chapter on using it with an IBM 7090 with a typewriter terminal.
haven't actually tried it anywhere
:)
 
I have to go now. Bye.
 
The ^book^ builds up all the ideas based on polynomials.
k bye
 
6:53 AM
Searching for "apl language" easily yields this amazing page: computerhistory.org/atchm/…
 
 
4 hours later…
10:29 AM
Oh, I have an idea for a question
2, even
 
 
3 hours later…
1:21 PM
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A: Proposed questions sandbox - Mark IX

mniipLazy battleship placement Imagine the following scenario: you are playing battleships with a friend but decide to cheat. Rather than moving a ship after he shoots where your ship used to be, you decide not to place any ships at all. You tell him all his shots are misses, until it is impossible t...

Should I add some example inputs maybe?
 
 
3 hours later…
4:07 PM
Yay, 2 days of rep cap in a row! :-P
 
Do you get a badge for that?
 
Yes, bronze or the first time.
Silver after 500 times.
And Gold after 150 times.
 
gold is less than silver??
 
4:23 PM
Oops, silver after 50 times.
 
500 days... that's a lot
i might have that bronze
 
I should have had it, but 100 of the points were the association bonus.
 
@user2509848 Why do I see a lot of people named "user%06d"
 
Because that is the default name.
 
It always bothered me
 
4:26 PM
With the numbers to distinguish it.
 
Why not set it to something meaningful?
 
I liked mine because it by coincidence to hosch250 (my internet name) - user2509848.
I used it as a sign-in on another website, so I need to remember it.
 
You should set it to user∂ƒ©Ë™Ë™Ë™Æ’Æ’ç√µËš¬ËšË†¨
 
Why not... ummm rename yourself to hosch250?
 
I could...
I almost have the Nice Answer badge on meta.
 
4:28 PM
I have a better idea than this:
yesterday, by Doorknob
@mniip function codeGolfSE() { if(goodQuestion) answer(); else ask(); }
 
Do you?
What?
 
In VC#2012,
using question a {
if (a.goodness > 0.5) {
self.answer(a);
} else {
self.ask(new question(random());
}
}
 
I will remember his name because of the jargon.
 
>implying C#
 
4:32 PM
Why C#?
 
because it has using statements
 
Oh.
I assume you won't write an actual program to do that.
 
no. i would never use VC#
 
/^Visual .*/ is evil and you should feel bad
 
I use Visual C++ on Visual Studio 2012 Pro (free because I'm a student).
 
4:35 PM
I use g++ from GCC with vim (free because they're foss)
 
I used NetBeans for Java, but I couldn't uninstall the old version after I installed the latest, and C++ never did work.
It said I needed to install C++ on my machine.
I wiped my computer and reinstalled.
 
@mniip Consider it voted on (out of votes - I earned Vox Populi on Meta yesterday 1 hour into the day).
 
4:58 PM
still the only answer here
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Q: Draw the Utah Teapot

luser droogThe Utah teapot, originally created by Martin Newell, is a convenient object for testing 3D graphics programs. The task is to create a wireframe image of the teapot in perspective projection. To encourage the idea of a source-code application, the viewing and camera control may be isolated and e...

 
I don't know enough to do it. Also, C++ doesn't have built-in graphics.
 
 
1 hour later…
6:09 PM
I got the requisite 3 upvotes and posted: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/22725/…
 
 
1 hour later…
7:10 PM
How do I exlpain in the question, that you're free to choose any character, but the program has to always use your chosen character
 
@mniip What?
 
Well, in my question you have to output a matrix of characters
there can be only 2 distinct ascii symbols, but it's not important which
you can use ; and V,
but if you do so, your program should always use ; and V , not anything else
 
I just read your question, so I know what you mean.
It seems fine to me the way it is.
What is wrong?
You choose any 2 distinct ascii characters - one for blank field, one for a ship piece, and output the board as a series of newline-separated strings using the chosen symbols to signify pieces and blank squares. No other characters should be output.
@mniip This maybe?
 
Well actually I'm adding third character as suggested by PeterTaylor
Here's what I got:
 
Yeah, that sounds good.
 
7:18 PM
> The program has to output a newline-separated matrix of ascii characters of either of 3 types - define one to denote blank cell, one - a ship piece, and one - a cell marked as "missed"; No other characters should be output.
Oops semicolon misuse
 
Delete "define" and it should sound good.
Does anyone know why we get the ......... line every so often?
 
the ........ line?
Oh
 
that's a new one to me.
 
heya
 
I looked pretty far back in my history just now and didn't see occurrences other than the two just now
 
7:22 PM
I have an idea.
 
I opened this question here
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Q: Call a method without calling it

Alex M.Inspired by a now deleted StackOverflow question. Can you come up with a way to get a particular method executed, without explicitly calling it? The more indirect it is, the better. Here's what I mean, exactly (C used just for exemplification, all languages accepted): // Call this. void the_fu...

should I have set an end date?
or is there a preset end date for things like this?
I'm not sure when to accept the most voted answer
 
@AlexM. After 3-7 days of no activity?
 
alright, got it
 
I have an idea. Test.
Just testing something. Didn't work.
 
7:25 PM
well, thanks for the answer :D
I'll take my leave
 
er, @AlexM. 7 days after last avlid answer is a common standatd
standard. gah, me type no good
 
I'll wait 7 days after the last answer, yup
 
See, we just got three ....... lines in a row!
 
But the old ones just disappeared and now I see only one
I wonder if those indicate when someone began typing a message that has not yet been submitted?
 
I see all three, but the higher ones are fading.
I thought it was maybe when someone posted a fixed-font message. No such thing.
Testing this with edits - fourth edit.
I waited about 30 seconds before submitting that. Didn't get the line.
 
7:31 PM
Chat faq on SO sez: "If you have chat open but we don't think you've seen new messages, the system adds a dotted line like this:"
 
Strange. I had chat open, alright.
 
So maybe something is broke in the hazUzarSeenMessages method.
 
Maybe.
 
>sez >hazUzar
 
There, I just left this tab, came back, and found another!
After having seen mniip's post.
 
7:36 PM
I posted a comment earlier on meta invoking "chiastic quatrains", so I look on "sez" and "hazUzar" as balancing the scales so I won't seem like a puffy intellectual elitist. :D
 
Did it again. Read post, left tab, came back pronto, found line.
 
What's that?
A chiastic quatrains?
 
A doctor who reference
 
And who is Doctor Who?
The World Health Organization?
 
7:38 PM
Also I just reloaded the chat and just now realized you renamed yourself
 
Not really, just my username.
 
Yes
 
Yes about what, WHO?
 
chiastic quatrains go like this in rhyming: abcd dcba. where normal quatrains are often abab cdcd or abba cddc
 
Oh, I see.
I searched it, and found some reference to some Asiatic Something-or-Other.
 
7:41 PM
they are most common in ancient texts. Hebrew Bible has a lot of them.
 
My opinion might be subjective, but how come is this not the most creative answer? codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/22721/7162
 
Nice, but kind of a common procedure.
 
At least it's not one of the half a dozen modulus-based answers
 
It has modulus.
return disassemble(math.floor(n/10),n%10,...)
I basically used the same technique, but with a for() loop in my Java class.
 
oh, i blew right past that. well, then.
 
7:45 PM
It uses modulus, but it abuses recursion and multiple return values/varargs
which serve as a replacement for an array
 
Oh. Interesting. I used strings and appended each number to it.
My method worked with 1230 too.
I am out of votes on both the main site and meta.
 
But it says not to use strings
 
That is why I don't haul my book out, find the problem, and post it - I still have the code.
I earned Vox Populi on both sites though.
 
Quick question: Is it okay to use someone else's code, like in the second part of my answer here?
 
Those are typically supposed to be Community Wiki answers so you don't gain rep for it.
 
7:52 PM
@hosch250 Ok
 
It is okay to base your answer on someone else's code.
Just as long as you change it to a certain extent.
 
The first part of that answer is made by me, though.
 
That is fine, I would post two answers.
 
Yeah, our discussion in meta came to the conclusion that answers that are not your own work should be made community wiki and properly attributed to the author
Since you also have an answer that is your own work, I would split them and CW only the Malbolge one
 
Exactly.
 
Perfect.
 
Thanks, guys!
 
And thank you for asking.
 
Bye, everyone. I need to bring my dog out to play.
 
 
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9:16 PM
Aw... But I already almost wrote an answer
Wait, I swear it said rot-47
Yeah, it did
 
...and it gets deleted
 
qp.mniip.com/p/tz , one rot-47-transforms into another, both compile and perform rot-47 transform on argv[1]
 
It's in the sandbox now.
 
So @user2509848 is now @hosch250 ?
 
Yup.
 
9:28 PM
I could like, undelete, ninja-sneak my answer in, and redelete :P
 
You have a dog?
I need to do some more SPIN
0
A: Most creative way to reverse a positive integer

TheDoctorSPIN PUB rev in:out byte o[10] byte i = 0 repeat o[i] := in[10-i] until in[i++] == 0

 
thats's an array
 
Yup, I have a dog.
 
Not technically... ok yeah i guess
the bonus to SPIN is that no one (very few people) can test your code
 
That's silly. If that was your intent, I'm going to downvote
 
9:33 PM
haVE FUN
darn caps lock

 Pin 53

Another room for Arduino
 
codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/22756/7162 wow this is so underspecified
glsl.heroku.com/e#14798.0 A valid answer, it would be. This is just a close up of one of the cube's faces
 
You could recruit him to the sandbox, but he doesn't have enough rep.
I wonder if anybody is doing my challenge.
I would do it, but I don't know maps yet, which I hear are basically vectors of vectors.
I could use arrays, but C++ doesn't support those as well.
 
huh
 
C++ arrays are harder to use than vectors.
 
std::map is nothing like a vector of vectors
and a matrix shouldn't be a std::vector of std::vectors
what's wrong with arrays in C++?
 
9:45 PM
How do I iterate over them when I don't know the length?
I tried sizeof(array);, but it didn't work.
 
@hosch250 you pass around the length with the array
 
you are supposed to know the length. They are arrays
 
That is why I like vectors - I don't need to know the length.
 
might as well just switch to a higher-level language then
 
What? BF?
 
9:47 PM
but in an array, you /declare/ the length
std::vector is a variable length array. Not the other way around
 
I know.
 
0
A: Shortest program that displays a red 3D cube

TheDoctorMay i be the first to... Processing, 513 void setup(){size(640,360,P3D);}void draw(){fill(255,0,0);translate(width/2,height/2,0);scale(90);rotateX(0.7);beginShape(QUADS);vertex(-1,1,1);vertex(1,1,1);vertex(1,-1,1);vertex(-1,-1,1);vertex(1,1,1);vertex(1,1,-1);vertex(1,-1,-1);vertex(1,-1,1);verte...

 
@TheDoctor animation pls
 
It was never specified
 
Well but can you produce one?
or is the output static
 
9:49 PM
yes, but it would add about 50 more bytes
bye
 
That question is both underspecified and over specified
" must use either Direct3D or OpenGL"
Sorry, Doc, you're disqualified
 
GLSL is an OpenGL technology, right?
 
hmm...technically yes, i suppose. i guess it depends on if you view it as a subset of OGL or a sister tech
is this really using OpenGL, though, if it's not importing OpenGL?
that's a silly requirement, anyway. let people use whatever method they like to draw the cube
i have this idea to use custom RAISERRORs in SQL to draw one, because error messages are displayed in red
 
My vtconsole doesn't support opengl :>
 
10:13 PM
Do you think this falls under using a function specifically for the challenge? codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/22761/10766
This was discussed on meta, but I don't know what the final conclusion was.
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Q: Standard "loopholes" which are no longer funny

Peter TaylorI've been thinking for a while that this would be useful, and some recent discussions have strengthened that belief. There are a number of standard loopholes which experienced question-setters seek to explicitly close. However, inexperienced question-setters may unintentionally leave them open, ...

 
Yes, I do. But I upvoted it anyway because the effort to make a Mathematica solution accessible to those who don't have the software is laudable.
 
Yes, that was nice.
Would it be possible to put that in the tag, or is it solution specific?
 
Solution specific, because author has to export their MM notebook as a CDF and upload it somewhere
Hence the pastebin link
 
yep
 
Oh, I see.
 
10:20 PM
Hopefully, when they formally release the Wolfram language, this stuff will become more accessible
 
@JonathanVanMatre - no, my cube uses OpenGL:
> P3D (Processing 3D): 3D graphics renderer that makes use of OpenGL-compatible graphics hardware.
from http://processing.org/reference/size_.html
 
10:32 PM
@mniip - that one question is now rot-47?!!?!
 
It was originally 47
 
i thought it started out as 13
 
It is ROT-13 in the sandbox.
 
Oh i see
 
He first posted it, then moved to the sandbox, then mniip asked him to re-open it.
 
10:37 PM
@luserdroog hi
still the only answer here:
3
A: Draw the Utah Teapot

TheDoctorProcessing (java), 314 (237 without camera control) Not including the array definitions: void setup(){size(640,480,P3D);}void draw(){background(0);noFill();stroke(255);translate(width/2,height/2,70);scale(30);rotateX(map(mouseX,0,width,0,TWO_PI));rotateY(map(mouseY,0,height,0,TWO_PI));for(int[]...

 
I may take a stab at the teapot in Mathematica
I may also end up frustrated in that attempt
But it seems like a good way to learn more about the 3d graphics than I currently know
 
It would be cool if you could make a single 3d parametric function to do it
 
you can
 
But it would be *****very***** tough
 
@JonathanVanMatre What have we done to deserve this JPEG screenshot
 
10:50 PM
@mniip What do you mean?
 
ex cellent question
 
are you objecting to the JPEG-ness or the content?
i'll make it a PNG instead if that is better for ye
 
But where?
 
1
A: Shortest program that displays a red 3D cube

Jonathan Van MatreT-SQL, 168 chars (but no OpenGL) Decidedly not using OpenGL or Direct3D because there is absolutely no way to do that in SQL. I think I have a pretty nice little cube, anyway. RAISERROR(' @@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ x@@@@@@@@@@@@&& xxx@@@@@@@@&&&& xxxxx@@@&&&&&&& xxxxxx&&&&&

 
Oh
It's not OpenGl
 
10:56 PM
And I freely admit that. Consider it a form of protest.
 
Well, unlike you presume, Mine is OpenGL
 
Cute. I would upvote it (when I get the power back) if it obeyed the rules.
 
??
 
yeah, fair enough. I think Processing has changed since last I poked at it. I thought you had to import the OGL library to be using OGL instead of the native Processing rendering
 
Look down to P3D
P3D (Processing 3D): 3D graphics renderer that makes use of OpenGL-compatible graphics hardware.
OpenGl libs in processing 2 are depreciated
 
10:59 PM
I did in fact scroll back and see that the first time you posted it.
"yeah, fair enough" was me conceding the point. No need to beat a dead horse. I was wrong.
 
Ok
I was trying to prove my point to @hosch250
 
ah, i see
i do think it's cute/awesome that Sage managed to outdo Mathematica for the built-in cube function
 
Oh, I wasn't even listening. I meant I would upvote @JonathanVanMatre's post, if it obeyed the rules.
 
oh...........................
We're having two different conversations. it's confusing
 
Yeah, our wires got twisted
 
11:14 PM
0
Q: Shortest program to print ":)" until the end of time

TheDoctorTask: Make a program that prints a smiley (:)) indefinitely. Rules: Your program must print :) as fast as possible until interrupted This is code-golf, so the shortest answer wins.

have fun!
 
Wow, many answer, short time, much befunge
 
If only you had done it longest-of-shortest.
I would have won, unless Java or C# came along.
 
Now, please, upvote the shortest answer :P
 
11:22 PM
i did
 
Hmm, let's see
APL can't into inifnity
oh
 
I learn something new every day!
I shortened my answer by using puts instead of std::cout<<
 
in `SPIN`:
repeat
....
oh, wait spin can't print
Darn
:(
 
Hmmm, FALSE can only give [1][":)"]#
 
Whay does bash even need yes?
 
11:27 PM
yes|annoying-installer
A 8-char golflua solution: @1w":)"$
Haskell, 11 chars: fix(":)"++)
 

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