^Is it bad that I could foresee the title of the meta question the moment I read the original question?

@All Illian has marked this bug as fixed but it isn't

Try this:

   Manipulator[1]

@Pickett something like this

 FrontEndExecute[FrontEnd`ExportPacket[pNb, "PlainText"]]

See mathematica.stackexchange.com/a/27021/4330 for an example (pNb is a notebook, but I think it also works with cells.)

Or maybe you are looking for ToString[Unevaluated[1 + 1], InputForm]

Want to see something confusing?

No surprises so far. Now try this:

I can see why it happens now, but it's confusing nevertheless.

@JacobAkkerboom Thanks, ExportPacket is almost there. Ideally I would like to have indentation too like one gets if one manually copy and paste code from a notebook. I'm writing a piece of code that reads the content of a notebook, turns it into a string and posts it to a blog.

Ah well, then maybe use "InputText" instead of "PlainText" :).

@JacobAkkerboom That's it... I'm lucky you came by, thank you again.

@Pickett no problem, glad to help with your awesome projects :)

:)

can someone help me with this question ? mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/89923/…

@Szabolcs If there is no topic about this, I think it's worth creating one. Do you want me to ask the question?

This is a really basic linear algebra fail, rather than a Mathematica fail. What do we do about this kind of misunderstanding? mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/89974/…

@PatrickStevens Nothing can fundamentally be done except to educate people.

My thinking was that it doesn't belong on mathematica.stackexchange.com because it's a question about orthonormalisation of eigenvectors, not about doing so in Mathematica. However, OP didn't know that, presumably, or they would have realised how silly the question was and/or wouldn't have asked it here.

It's not easy for people to suss out the difference. I feel that as long as they made a geniune effort to understand the cause of the problem, then it's okay.

You often can't have a strict separation between answering questions about math and answering questions about mathematica anyway.

Occasionally, for example, an engineer will complain about the result of a fourier transform. They see the results are different from their textbook's results. They're unaware that their field defines fourier transformations differently from other fields and unaware of how to use FourierParameters to implement it.

@PatrickStevens You're doing it all wrong! The correct way to bring it up these days is to ask "Wouldn't it be nice if we didn't make basic linear algebra fails? Where is the written consensus that this belongs on Mathematica SE?" ;)

You're far more patient than me though. I would have asked why they thought it should be commutative. Everything is noncommutative until proven otherwise.

@Searke But that is the way into an extended Socratic discussion about linear algebra, which I am very much disinclined to begin :P

@TheToad Where is the written consensus that "where is the written consensus that this belongs on Mathematica SE" belongs on meta.mathematica SE?

Oh, actually that seems to be a pertinent question

@Patrick, now, now… unrestricted recursion leads to ruin. :)

@Guesswhoitis. I know, I felt dirty when I wrote it, but it's so quick to write and it works in languages without Nest or FixedPoint primitives.

@TheToad I believe the whole thing triggered when we accepted this new kid on the block, @Guesswhoitis, as mod. Who is s/he, anyway? Where is the written consensus about his/her star?

star == diamond. It seems that my local metric tensor is having a bad day

@bel, nothing a proper affine transformation can't distort… ;P

@Guesswhoitis. Rough days, these :)

Nothing compared to SO, though

@Guesswhoitis. For example

medium.com/@johnslegers/…

I think most of the SE sites are in Eternal September, in one form or another.

At least, there are some ways available to us to ease the effect.

But my gosh… one question I chanced at random, my impression was: "the OP already feels stupid, should you have to put out the banner and trumpets to announce this so loudly?" Appalling.

@Guesswhoitis. Yep. Humans are strange devices

Is it just me, or does the Tumblr of the blog post not actually contain any information about the projects? It just seems to have a single picture from each.

@PatrickStevens link?

@belisarius wolfram-camp.tumblr.com - it's linked from the Wolfram Blog post.

@PatrickStevens Thks!

So, Marketing is overselling again? Where have I seen that before… :D

@Guesswhoitis. @PatrickStevens At least some of them are available at WDP

demonstrations.wolfram.com/CreatingAVoronoiMeshFromAnImage

demonstrations.wolfram.com/IsomerGeneratorForOrganicMolecules