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Aaron Hall

8:00 PM

1 hour ago, by Aaron Hall

Otherwise, I forbid it.

DeliriousSyntax

I think I seen it in the manual of a terminal I downloaded for android

Aaron Hall

Do they finally have a decent Python on Android yet?

DeliriousSyntax

No not at all

They have good ones for java and c++, but not python. I really wish they did

Shog9

@Rachel last time?

Aaron Hall

@Shog9 while you're here, did you see this meta post? meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/7947

BarryTheHatchet

8:05 PM

> Noobs everywhere

IRTA something else at first

DeliriousSyntax

Noobs? Where?

BarryTheHatchet

@DeliriousSyntax Everywhere.

Aaron Hall

@BTH one-track mind? fixation?

DeliriousSyntax

Hide your wife! Hide your kids! The noob invasion is happening

Aaron Hall

Noobs. Noobs Everywhere.

I was hoping for maybe a Shoggy-nod.

seeks approval

DeliriousSyntax

8:11 PM

Approved*

Aaron Hall

feels awesome

Rachel

@Shog9 lol yes, last time I brought it up so much people were so sick of it and didn't want to hear anything related to it... meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/3718/… :)

DeliriousSyntax

Oh yeah still never found an answer How can someone get and decompile the code on an alarmclock or something just as simple

Rachel

@AaronHall I'm not sure what kind of answer is being asked for with that question, especially from the SE Community Managers

DeliriousSyntax

I think we should change StackExchange to AaronHAll for all sites

Aaron Hall

8:16 PM

Approved*

DeliriousSyntax

I'm going to start a petition

Aaron Hall

signs petition

DeliriousSyntax

1 day 10million more signatures to go

Aaron Hall

A journey of a thousand miles...

starts thinking about some new PR photos

Aaron Hall

8:42 PM

@Shog9 I don't think we need a new name. We just need this:

Mar 8 at 16:24, by Aaron Hall

They all come from well meaning naïfs on SO - just pop up a tool-tip when they type in programmers.stackexchange.com - "please only recommend programmers if you're absolutely certain it's on-topic and a good question for the site"

DeliriousSyntax

I honestly don't know what kind of questions you would ask on here.

just never cchecked

Shog9

Off-site referers for folks who asked questions on Progse, last two days:

null                               243
stackoverflow.com                  37
www.google.com                     25
stackexchange.com                  10
www.google.co.in                   9
accounts.google.com                9
www.google.co.uk                   8
meta.stackexchange.com             7
meta.programmers.stackexchange.com 7
www.google.it                      5
meta.stackoverflow.com             3
www.google.ca                      3
www.google.de                      2
www.google.com.au                  2

Aaron Hall

see, null.

Shog9

that's a 5-minute lookback window; here's 30:

null                               310
stackoverflow.com                  49
www.google.com                     34
www.google.co.in                   15
stackexchange.com                  13
www.google.co.uk                   9
accounts.google.com                9
meta.stackexchange.com             7
meta.programmers.stackexchange.com 7
www.google.it                      5
meta.stackoverflow.com             4
www.google.ca                      4
www.google.nl                      3
www.google.am                      2

Aaron Hall

Well, anyways, we also need a wizard to help new questioners - and make it optional for veterans too. I'd use it.

I'd probably ask more questions if I felt more confident it wouldn't get closed.

DeliriousSyntax

8:54 PM

@AaronHall am I a vet?

Aaron Hall

I did a well received self Q&A recently, but I was rather worried it would be closed or found a dupe: stackoverflow.com/questions/36106712

And I still did my due diligence.

DeliriousSyntax

I'd be happy to get a qquestion or answer with 10+ vote

enderland

6 hours ago, by enderland

finding concurrency/multithreading bugs for my team to deal with. #theyloveme

they do love me, since my program identified a reproducible case for this bug and let us fix it. Woot!

Aaron Hall

Yay, enderland created value for his team!

DeliriousSyntax

Congrats!

@BarryTheHatchet I got your new name - MajesticSuperBean

Aaron Hall

9:00 PM

"Hi, it looks like you're writing a question!"

Clippy!

enderland

@AaronHall it was significant value, this presumably is going to fix a bug that is affecting other teams in our prod environment (but they couldn't reliably reproduce)

Aaron Hall

Did you have some holdouts arguing it didn't exist and prove them wrong?

enderland

No, it just took all day to diagnose the root issue

The other bugs no one could reproduce and luckily my testing app could 100% of the time :)

which turns out to be really useful when debugging race conditions...

Aaron Hall

Race condition: have information on state, but state changes before you can act on it.

amiright?

durron597

@AaronHall eh. you could argue that's a good definition but i would say more generally it's about doing things in the wrong order

enderland

9:16 PM

I would say more "stuff happens in an indeterminate and inconsistent order, which sometimes causes problems"

BarryTheHatchet

9:27 PM

@DeliriousSyntax meh

DeliriousSyntax

@PieterB: No, it's what most of us do for a living. — BarryTheHatchet 3 hours ago

wow, that was a lot of reading and +1ing

Is there 1 official owner of SE?

user15026

9:46 PM

@DeliriousSyntax Like as the head of the company sort of thing?

Hosch250

Jeff Atwood and Joel Spolsky.

(I hope I spelled their names right.)

DeliriousSyntax

WHat are their main roles?

Hosch250

Joel is the CEO, IIRC.

user15026

@DeliriousSyntax This pretty much explains who everyone is and what they do.

DeliriousSyntax

Joel Spolsky

Avram Joel Spolsky (born 1965) is a software engineer and writer. He is the author of Joel on Software, a blog on software development, and the creator of the project management software Trello. He was a Program Manager on the Microsoft Excel team between 1991 and 1994. He later founded Fog Creek Software in 2000 and launched the Joel on Software blog. In 2008, he launched the Stack Overflow programmer Q&A site in collaboration with Jeff Atwood. Using the Stack Exchange software product which powers Stack Overflow, the Stack Exchange Network now hosts over 100 Q&A sites. == Biography == Spolsky...

@AshleyNunn I thought it wouldve been on stackexchange instead of overflow

Juan kinda reminds me of Dwayne Johnson

stackexchange.com/users/6254215/juan-m

Wow, some of those people are really young. How could you possibly get such a big part of something at such a young age

Robert Harvey

10:03 PM

By being in the right place at the right time?

How Basecamp Next got to be so damn fast without using much client-side UI

Aaron Hall

anildash.com

user15026

10:16 PM

@DeliriousSyntax Stack Overflow is the company name

BarryTheHatchet

@AshleyNunn I thought they fixed that

Aaron Hall

> The song's name is called Haddocks' Eyes
The song's name is The Aged Aged Man
The song is called Ways and Means
The song is A-sitting on a Gate

DeliriousSyntax

The song is titled "where is my mind".

Mat's Mug

hi guys!

Q: Java 8 Stream of recursive code

I want to write a class that returns a Stream of permutations of an int[]. public class Permutations { public static Stream<int[]> of(int[] array) { return permute(array, array.length); } public static Stream<int[]> permute(int[] array, int n) { if (n == 1) { ...

feel free to migrate over to CR :)

> Spolsky started working at Microsoft in 1991[4] as a Program Manager on the Microsoft Excel team, where he designed Excel Basic and drove Microsoft's Visual Basic for Applications strategy.

so he's responsible for pretty much every single one of my headaches in the past year or so

♪

DeliriousSyntax

10:33 PM

Anyone watch Anomalisa yet?

1 hour later…

BarryTheHatchet

11:41 PM

@enderland stackoverflow.com/a/26547845/560648