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user55340
12:04 AM
@AshleyNunn Peach schnapps, orange juice (equal parts), splash of Makers Mark. Peach Cobbler (the Makers gives it a bit of 'crust' to the otherwise peach flavor)
 
user15026
@MichaelT Oh hell yes that sounds like something I would love
 
user55340
Lemeoncello (either cream or regular - they make different drinks), orange liqueur (cointreau or triple sec depending on taste) and lime juice. Equal parts. Shaken with ice.
 
user20683
Gin, Amarula, Triple Sec, equal parts over ice
 
user20683
"Boer War"
 
user114359
Jack Daniels + Cherry Coke Zero + ice = heaven
 
user55340
12:07 AM
@WorldEngineer Cream de Cacao (3/4 oz) and orange juice (3/4 oz), splash of Galliano. Served over shaved ice.
 
user55340
Personally, my preferred one is Apricot Brandy + Gin + something else (variations)
 
user55340
Apricot + Apple + gin... or Apricot + gin + lemon + orange... or apricot + gin + bitters... Apricot + gin + Cointreau...
 
user20683
ouzo+amaretto = almond spice cookie
 
user15026
@MichaelT I don't like the cream, but I like the regular.
 
user15026
@Snowman Indeed :)
 
user55340
12:12 AM
@AshleyNunn You tried Limoncello cream?
 
user15026
@MichaelT Yeah, I have
 
user15026
I am not really big on cream alcohol.
 
user55340
Give it a try with the different variations on that drink...
 
user55340
At a pub I used to go to where I was a well tipping regular (Silly valley boom days), they'd let me stretch the rules... I couldn't take alcohol out of the pub, but I could bring unopened in.
 
user55340
So I bought both forms of limoncello in one time and we mixed the drink variations. I appreciated both but biased to the non-cream by a slim margin. The bartender preferred the non-cream. The owner preferred the cream by a large margin.
 
user55340
12:20 AM
 
1:51 AM
Hi guys, my question at programmers.stackexchange is marked as off topic and i have been suggested to ask the question here.

Can someone help me > here is original post http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/283337/what-technology-stack-i-should-use?noredirect=1#comment582569_283337
 
user55340
2:23 AM
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Q: What technology stack i should use?

Em AeTo upgrade my technology knowledge, I am planning to write an automation app for our internal team. The thing that I am trying to automate is a webpage, which takes few webforms clicks and then at the end it asks for the input and submit that form. What i am looking for is a way to record clien...

 
user55340
There we go... had the wrong one box.
 
user55340
> I know Ruby is one of the hot language but not sure if it can record a webforms activity.
 
user55340
Ruby + Rails is often used as a quick web language.
 
user55340
@EmAe btw, late evening on a Friday, we can be a bit to slow to respond. Most of us have chat open as a second window while at work.
 
3:16 AM
@EmAe there are many test automation tools out there that do this type of recording for you with all kinds of extensions built in so that after it's been recorded you write code into the test to automate portions and generate data for different portions etc
It would be preferable to find one and learn it instead of writing anything from scratch as the knowledge with the tool would be applicable to jobs in the future etc
I have a fair bit of experience with visual studio's web test recorder, but that isn't a commonly used one, fiddler is a simple open source web test recorder you can use but I don't know how much extensibility it has (probably a good bit but I haven't experience with it)
I believe selenium is something people use for that though I don't know if it does recording or just headless web testing
there's the whole mercury test suite which I'm sure has test recording and extensibility
SoapUI can do test automation with groovy for extensibility of the tests but doesn't do recording I don't believe
there's plenty more tools out there that are commonly used in industry for precisely the thing you're doing. Go search for web test record or recorded web test or whatever other google fu you can come up with and you'll surely find plenty of materials and tutorials on doing what you want to do in a commonly used way in the industry, which means it will be reusable knowledge throughout your career.
WHen you write custom stuff to do things like that, you end up spending lots of time building a one-off that's going to cost maintenance time and learning time to anyone else who comes along as well as being useless to you when you move on. Industry standard tools are things you could pass off to other engineers or testers you work with in the future as they may have experience with them from prior jobs, and you're likely to run into the same tools in future jobs.
 
 
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8:12 AM
@JimmyHoffa Thanks Jimmy. Actually my purpose is to learn some new programming language (web stack preferably) rather than relying on tools. Moreover, the problem with these tools is that i have to ask my team member to install those tools on their machines or configure them there. I want to put a simple app on our IntraNet and let all departments use it.
 
 
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12:29 PM
posted on May 09, 2015

Unison - a next-generation programming platform, by Paul Chiusano: Programs are edited in a (browser-based) semantic editor which guarantees programs are well-formed and typecheck by construction The codebase is a purely functional data structure The program is a UI, and UI interaction is programming Persistent data sources must be accessible via a high-level, typed API An interesting projec

 
 
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user55340
4:22 PM
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A: Largest and smallest values from concatenated integers

OptimizerCJam, 14 13 bytes qS/e!:s$(N@W= Pretty straight forward. This is how it works: qS/ e# Split the input on spaces e! e# Get all permutations of the input numbers :s e# Join each permutation order into a single string $ e# S...

 
user55340
It actually is fairly straight forward.
 
user55340
qS/                  e# Split the input on spaces
   e!                e# Get all permutations of the input numbers
     :s              e# Join each permutation order into a single string
       $             e# Sort them. This sorts the strings based on each digit's value
        (N@W=        e# Choose the first and the last out of the array separated by '\n'
 
4:41 PM
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Q: Why is one language with elegant easy to read syntax as fast as one with the verbosity or explicitness?

WampnessThere are 2 distinct types of programming language design categories in my eyes. We have C++/Java/Rust/C# languages on this side, Fast for the most part but also a bit verbose or explicit. On this side, we have languages like Ruby, Python, Crystal and Nim. These languages by the popular opinion...

Edited, voted to reopen.
 
Interesting Lambda the Ultimate post. Everything they say about plumbing code is true, though it assumes that the only interesting thing that you can do with code is functional equations.
 
user20683
@RobertHarvey that's because for a lot of theorists, that's only thing code does
 
5:49 PM
So basically they're saying "let's create a visual metaphor for UI and plumbing, so that we can focus the code on the actual work getting done." Hmm, I think that's been done before.
That's why so many coders now use bare-metal coding to create their UI's, even though visual UI design tools have been around for years.
#justanothersilverbullet
 
posted on May 09, 2015

Pycket: A Tracing JIT For a Functional Language Spenser Bauman, Carl Friedrich Bolz, Robert Hirschfeld, Vasily Krilichev, Tobias Pape, Jeremy Siek, and Sam Tobin-Hochstadt 2015 We present Pycket, a high-performance tracing JIT compiler for Racket. Pycket supports a wide variety of the sophisticated features in Racket such as contracts, continuations, classes, structures, dynamic binding, an

 
 
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@durron597 done
over here we are in complete agreement on scope =)
 
@Ixrec That was the last question. The first STCI category is just down to and
@Ixrec Yeah well there have been many more years to think about it here :)
 
awesome
I'll try to help with those a bit this weekend once I'm done writing some Myth.SE questions
 
@AshleyNunn I just bought a case of these
I sniffed out an audit here but can someone explain to me why this isn't opinion based?
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Q: What is the correct project file structure for a versioned rest api?

ivan.cShould I have resource directories inside version directory, like app/ v1/ book/ author/ v2/ author/ or version directories inside resource folder app/ book/ v1/ author/ v1/ v2/ which one would be easier to maintain and which is commonly used today?

 
"You should keep the version number as most to the left of the URI as possible, as this gives it the highest scope." programmers.stackexchange.com/a/278881/161917
I'm halfway between simply agreeing with that assertion and closing as opinion-based
 
user15026
7:26 PM
@durron597 those look interestingly tasty
 
@Ixrec I mean, I asked this on SuperUser many moons ago but there's actually a specification for that
@AshleyNunn I love Sam Adams new branding for their IPA line too. I'm going to try the double when they get cold. Prior to this case I'd only tried the blue one which is excellent.
 
user15026
They do look great.
 
8:58 PM
@MichaelT both those questions are currently hotlisted
 
9:36 PM
it's nice when 2 hours of work runs successfully on the first try. Suspicious, but nice.
 
does that include compilation attempts?
 
do you consider IDE type/semantic checking of statically typed languages compilation attempts?
 
@Ixrec build automatically with no typos would be pretty amazing.
 
hrmf. it works, but not how I wanted, kinda... class functions aren't defined on the class - they're off in the static bucket.
now, do I care enough about that to fix it right now?
nope. it can work like that for now. People can't access this from other .NET languages in a sane way anyways
 
10:05 PM
Horray, compiled my first project in IntelliJ
Now let's see if I actually can adapt with it
 
10:20 PM
> Application server integration is available only in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate Edition
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:/
oh that's not good.
2+3*4 -> 86
 
@Telastyn how'd that happen?
 
not sure! Compiler is producing functioning incorrect code.
which is really the worst scenario.
 
write more unit tests!
 
srsly.
but since I can actually debug my language, I should be able to find out...
 
10:32 PM
I just remembered a bug at work where rearranging two items in a list duplicates the item so it appears in both places...so perhaps I'm not one to talk
I should really fix that on Monday
 
okay, debugger thinks that int is null.
maybe asm inspection will go better.
oh, that might be it.
cool. I was trying to tail-call an addop... which umm .NET totally let me do.
now I get 20, which is not correct, but understandably so.
 
11:00 PM
I figured how to run Jetty with IntelliJ. André 1 x 0 JetBrains
 
11:27 PM
You can write .NET code that produces the wrong answer because tail recursion isn't supported? O_o
 
I would love to know how you managed to do that
 
Tail recursion is supported, but (I presume) only for function calls. Doing it on plain old operations just fubars your stack.
 
I recently had an interview with a company. After that interview, I was told to complete a short programming assignment (a small program; shouldn't take more than three hours). I'm only directly instructed to complete the assignment and turn in the code via email. I was given complete freedom to use any language I wished.

I have been developing software for awhile and this is the first time I have applied for a job and was allowed to program something at home, I normally just program stuff in a technical interview which are time limited.
 
I would personally do what I would normally do in N hours (their timeboxed expectations) for that sort of app.
 
There is not an actual time box for this assignment, just based upon the "as is" request I would expect it to take no more than a few hours.
 
11:33 PM
then I would work on it for a few hours and turn in what I got done.
 
So if it goes beyond the requirements but it still only takes a few hours you see that as being fine?
 
Do what they asked. If you produce a superviederflagen, they might see you as someone who gold-plates everything.
 
yeah. It's an opportunity to show off a little once I'm sure the core requirements are met handily.
 
Or do what @Telastyn says.
 
Thats why I asked here, I am torn. I see both of your sides
 
11:37 PM
yeh, overboard is no good, but unit tests aren't gold-plating.
 
Agreed, unit tests aren't gold plating.
 
case-insensitive comparisons and whitespace trimming aren't gold plating either
 
and a polished UI is nice. Handling corner cases well is nice.
 
assuming the requirements don't contradict that
 
Everything I want to do will not affect the core requirements, everything they want will still be there. There will just be more cases handled, and better UX
 
11:40 PM
Seems reasonable to me.
 
user15026
@RobertHarvey Produce a whowhatnow
 
I would show off. We use open ended assignments to see if people care enough about getting the job to go the extra mile.
 
@RobertHarvey I love how the only google hit for that is an ancient PSE answer where you used it
 
user15026
Something tells me the "what to do" is really, really going to vary from company to company
 
user15026
Makes me glad I won't really work in industries where tests of this nature happen
 
user55340
11:44 PM
@André Thats the $$ part of it.
 
user15026
@Ixrec My search engine of choice just thinks I can't spell supervisory
 
@MichaelT I'm an outlaw
 
user15026
Google translate goes "I think that is German but hell if I can tell you what it means"
 
@AshleyNunn That's a good point. The right thing to do, therefore, is to do whatever you think is the right thing to do as it shows them who you truthfully are.
If you do the wrong thing then you're the wrong fit.
 
I just found a jetty runner plugin, @MichaelT, it's kinda working, having troubles to stop, sometimes the forked process outlive the "STOP" button.
 
user55340
11:46 PM
I'm going to point out, that there is a sale going on right now at Jetbrains. Its normally $200 for the product, for Mother's Day its 50% off (they do irregular sales)
 
I much preferred the "guided" interview they gave me where I'd get a gentle nudging question in the direction they wanted if I was going off on some other issue
 
Alright, I will show off a little.

Thanks!
 
user55340
Wait, nope... different page.
 
with 100$ I pay a month of groceries, rather not spend it as hobby tool. Community seems okay to learn the ropes
 
@MichaelT For IDEA?
 
11:47 PM
@MichaelT, thanks for the heads up anyway :)
 
user55340
I got mine at the end of the world... Myan end of the world sale a few years ago... 75% off.
 
user55340
@durron597 Thought I saw a sale, didn't.
 
user15026
@durron597 Pretty much :)
 
hahaha @MichaelT
 
I was gonna say. I don't see a sale
 
11:48 PM
so is $200 one time fee?
 
user55340
@André It will work forever, yearly update subscription is $99.
 
cool :-)
no wonder eclipse is favorite here
 
user55340
Eclipse was choice at Employer^^, Netbeans at Employer^, and back to Eclipse at current employer.
 
user55340
@durron597 It was the one on 3/3/15 that I saw.
 
@MichaelT Aha
 
11:51 PM
@MichaelT where does your ^ syntax come from? is there a language where ^ means decrement or something?
 
I tried both, Eclipse is the one I enjoyed using
 
user55340
@Ixrec Git. Head is current head. Head^ is previous commit...
 
oh duh
I always use ~
 
I need to learn how to git too
Been under a SVN rock for too long
 
user55340
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Q: What's the difference between HEAD^ and HEAD~ in Git?

TK.When I specify an ancestor commit object in Git, I'm confused between HEAD^ and HEAD~. Both have a "numbered" version like HEAD^3 and HEAD~2. They seem very similar or the same to me, but are there any differences?

 
11:53 PM
that makes sense; I've never had a use for ^X because we don't do multi-merging
 
@Ixrec - I posted a little about the 86 bug: tangent-lang.blogspot.com
 
nice
 
user55340
@durron597 promopro.com/merchant-JetBrains-coupons-deals-26498.html suggests that there is another sale coming up, though I don't know where they get their news.
 
you're writing your own language @Telastyn?
 
user55340
Btw, found this recently - something fun to play with. jasmin.sourceforge.net
 

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