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12:02 AM
@CristianCiupitu dunno - perhaps altus is super cheap and claris is a little more robust. Could be the derailleurs cage length too - MTB ones have medium or long cages, road sets tend to be short or medium.
 
Altus is probably a bit more robust. Claris/sora look nicer, and the rest of your group will be more road on hybrids
and you'll get less range cassettes most likely, which claris and sora work
id guess claris and sora might shift a bit cleaner due to the shorter cage and stuff though. doesnt need to be designed to deal with as much slop
in any case its a minor point. an acera or up derailleur is fine for almost everybody
 
yah - what did Lemond say recently? "Any `nice' bike you buy new today is better than what I rode in the TdF in the 90s" something like that.
as long as its not a pressed-steel BSO then it'll be good
So any opinions on this bike ?
its helluva-long
I notice its only a 7 speed with no FD
There's no charger or battery or even battery casing.
I don't know if there's a controller in the box or not
and the motor may be dead.
The rear wheel is different, and its missing the left-side left-hand thread and track cog and chain.
I just want a long frame to see how it rides different to a short frame
 
12:30 AM
Back from first proper bike tinkering in over ten years. And what a joy it was.
It would have taken half the time though if I could remember for more than two minutes which way spokes tighten.
Two spokes were so lose that they almost dropped out of the nipples. (Which I found out by turning them the wrong way).
@Criggie I thought you have done kind of cargo bike? That'd be quite long.
 
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Not really a surprise.
 
Nobody interested in keeping up the blog. They'll archive our blog and that archive will be available.
 
12:46 AM
@gschenk I've got a 20" folding bike that tows a two-wheel kids trailer.
Its more about playing with a longer wheelbase.
 
@Criggie It will be harder to get both wheels in the air :-)
 
On the flip side, it'll be easier to keep the front wheel down on a climb. My road bike is not a good shape for climbing, but I want to see how much of that is my skill and how much is the length.
Road bike has saddle behind the rear wheel in any decent climb. That 30% a few weeks ago was quite flippy and I did not like it.
So I can keep up (almost) with the fast roadies from work
but as soon as we hit a grade they're gone
Trying to find why I climb so poorly - and the longer cranks question was part of the same thing.
 
I saw you mention that some time ago. What have you decided to do?
 
HTFU. Turns out noone has longer cranks, and it would be $450US to buy some from Zinn.
Everyone has an opinion and there are two sides...
Long cranks make a difference because Reasons vs
Long cranks don't make a difference because Reasons.
So like the long wheelbase, its try and see.
I'm tempted to fudge up some by cutting and extending some old cranks
but that's beyond my welding skill so it would end up being some horribly bodged mess
 
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A: Can I keep using my outer tube tyre with a hole in it

CriggieA thorn hole in an inner tube is totally patchable. A 50 cent patch is a lot cheaper than a new tube. Stop consumerism! As for the hole, it depends if the inner tube pokes out or not. The get-home fix is to line or reinforce that area with something laid between the tube and tyre. On one ...

 
12:59 AM
"longer cranks mean more torque" <--- sounds okay
longer cranks mean larger circles so lower RPM and it all balances out <-- not sure. It sounds plausible.
@gschenk yah - what about it ?
 
Just looked at my old patches on the inner and remembered where I got them from. Oldest one is over 20 years old.
Really good to remind people that patching is good enough, and trivially easy. Also gets you nice souvenirs.
5 mm longer crank from 170 to 175 is just 3℅. Likewise for circumference. If one rides with cadence 90 or 88 doesn't seem terribly important.
 
1:18 AM
yeah - you're assuming the fallacy of the average man
I'm exceptionally tall and most of it is in my legs
consider a 200mm crank instead.
that's 14% longer than a 175mm crank
again, it might be a load of sales-manure
but I'm interested enough to try. Not interested enough to lay out gobs of cash.
 
Can somebody review the outstanding edit on bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/45515/…
I'd like to add the street view ...
 
Done
David R doesn't have edit yet? I'm surprised.
 
Thanks. No, he's getting there :-)
Thinking about your cranks. People create crank shorteners, such as tandemseast.com/parts/cranks.html
Maybe you could assemble a similar crank extender.
I'm thinking one or two pieces that bolt onto the side of some old cranks with several tapped / threaded bolt holes, so that you can adjust the length by, say, 10mm at a time.
Anyhow, gotta do some work.
Later.
 
2:01 AM
Yeah that's where I'm thinking of going
once the length is dialed in, ask the local car chassis welder to make them permanent.
basically a pair of splints on either side of a cut crankarm
 
2:42 AM
@andy256, nice edit.
 
2:54 AM
Regarding Altus/Acera versus Claris/Sora, so if I were to choose between Cannondale Quick 5 Disc (2017) and Merida Speeder 200 2016 which happen to have almost the same price (in Romania), I should look at other differences than derailleurs. Especially given that I don't change gears too often in traffic and I'm not into racing.
 
wheels would be the second biggest thing, after outright fit and comfort.
$50 US for two weeks rental
 
Right. Too bad most bikes come with no-name or own brand hubs and rims.
Aren't out there any pro riders as tall as you are?
So that you can check out their setups.
 
3:16 AM
sure
and if I had their pocketbooks it wouldn't be an issue
Even that's confusing - cos quintana rides short cranks for his height, and froome rides 175mm evn though he's tall
there's examples for both sides, so IMO trial is the only way to go.
 
4:15 AM
@CristianCiupitu - derailleurs aren't as big of a deal as people make out
so long as you stay within the mid range or up, you're going to have something acceptable.
flat bar stuff is relatively cheap (shifters, levers, derailleurs)
the merida probably is a bit higher quality. BUT I would be willing to bet that if you swapped the derailleurs, shifters and what not between the bikes, you wouldnt' be able to tell the difference if they were both doubles in teh front
The cannondale has a triple which isn't cool anymore.
But it comes with a carbon fork which is nice versus the merida.
And I'm guessing better hydraulic brakes on the cannondale as well.
err wait the cannondale doesnt have cf fork
so its basically a wash. the double on the merida might be nicer, but if you need to add a bigger cassette, you'll need to spend a few bucks on a new rear derailleur (but they aren't that expensive).
You'd want to ride them to determine which works better for you.
That being said, merida isn't sold in the USA and cannondale hybrids don't tend to be as popular as the competition. By far the most common non-BSO hybrids I see tend to be the trek 7.x series
followed by probably the specialized sirrus and giant escape /rapid/whatever their hybrid equivalent is
Anyway, @Criggie , I know people who are ~205 cm tall and use regular 175 mm cranks. don't see them as being a par tthat needs to be changed out for almost anybody
 
5:21 AM
@Batman Fuck you Jimmy! Triples are awesome!
I don't know how I'd climb some of these grades without my granny gear
this "triples aren't cool" stuff is merely bike makers being cheap.
thats all a 1x drive train is - financial.
 
5:51 AM
Er ... can we have just normal, non-expletive English here please?
@CristianCiupitu Thanks.
 
6:03 AM
/me <3 triples
better ?
Oh - I bought the longdog bike too
 
 
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9:27 AM
@Criggie pocket book: GCN channel on YouTube made an 'ask the pros about their crank length' episode a little while ago. They collected stats of the whole peloton at the Dubai tour. (ps: I thought Froome rides even shorter 170s.)
 
9:44 AM
@CristianCiupitu Most common brand name hybrids I see around here are cube (and those of a nearby mfg, corratec) I think it strongly depends on nearby dealerships that offer bargains. Have you had a look at Rose? Afaik They also have Romanian on their webpage.
 
 
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11:13 AM
 
11:27 AM
get.google.com/albumarchive/113763414380370847417/album/… Thats what the longdog should look like
 
 
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12:44 PM
I suppose emergency spillways all over the world will see considerable engineering work over the next few years.
 
1:26 PM
@Criggie 200 mm cranks: A 622 rim radius is 311 mm, bb drop on a road bike is typically 70 mm, with 200 mm cranks that leaves you only 5 cm clearance, plus tire height.
 
2:23 PM
Completely possible. Or drunk engineer that inspected it last year and just signed off "good for another five years!" will get fired. Real engineers will start inspecting and be like "Oh this is all crackey. You make need patch fix. kthnxbai"
Interesting that wikipedia seems to support my armchair analysis. I may not be a complete idiot!
 
analysis of what?
 
 
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7:46 PM
that oroville dam mess
 

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