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12:01 AM
cos they're in "The `tron"
man the most expensive bike I own cost me $100 to buy
I cant imagine laying out four digits for a bike.
(that's Hamilton, btw)
 
12:29 AM
Soon, soon, I will be the most voting-ist user: bicycles.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Voters&filter=all
 
12:52 AM
 
 
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2:09 AM
@Criggie See Rule #25.
 
@andy256 but Andy, I don't own a car. (bike value)/(car value) = NAN!
Or you could subtract :) bike value - car value = bike value = Yay! Although... most cars have negative value, so those people come out ahead of me if you subtract.
 
@Móż That's a particularly inflexible approach!
It's not the ratio that's important (I originally typed that without the r), it's the relation.
bike value > car value. Anything > nothing.
Interesting to see that only one of the top 8 voters is from the US of A.
 
@andy256 I thought you'd be more worried that two of them are in Sydney, only one in the lesser city?
 
@andy256 I have a landrover - a mouldy donkey turd would be worth more.
 
@Móż Ah, so you've graduated to become of those insecure Sydneysiders?
 
2:16 AM
@Criggie I dunno, you can sleep in a landrover.
 
LOL!
 
not in a SWB - well actually you can but need a support frame from the dashboard over the seats to the rear door.
 
@Móż You are correct about cars having negative value.
 
@andy256 nah, I'm from Aotearoa and enjoy teasing strayns about their inter-city rivalries.
 
or you sleep underneath - that works too
 
2:18 AM
@andy256 I still recall one boss who tried to give me a car. "but it's free" and other expressions of astonishment when I said no.
 
The dog's funny - he has figured out how to squidge under the landy to get a ball or whatever. But if the ball goes under the other half's car he can't fit.
 
Some days sorting music alphabetically by artist does not work at all. New Age-y pan flute music followed by guitar-heavy hiphip angry shouting people.
 
moz: I have a neat trick for that
moz: sort it by average speed.
 
the car or the music?
 
downside is you havge to hav esome way to get the average BPM.
hah yeah good point
so my mp3 player has a directort of 116-122 bpm music for walking
 
2:21 AM
I prefer to just make playlists, especially on my phone.
 
and a separate dir of 90 or 180 or 135 bpm for pedaling
that works too
 
2:45 AM
Better stop for lunch. That reminds me: I had a bottle of wine with dinner last night, that I bought in 1979 - Wolff Blas Black Label. Slightly brown at the edges, lost it's fruit, but still quite drinkable!
 
jesus - 38 years old
thats impressive
was it improved with age?
 
I expected it to be dead.
You'd say it was passed its best :-)
But Yes, I was impressed that it was still drinkable.
I have a few other bottles of similar age. I'm not expecting such a positive result from them.
 
oh I remember having some beer that was ~12 months old
it was truely skunked
 
But you wouldn't believe what such bottles would fetch at auction.
Ha!
 
you should probably flog it then
buy the next bike
unless it was meaningful
lkike "birth of a child" meaningful
 
2:59 AM
Na. I buy wine to drink.
That's the fun of keeping it.
I didn't dare mention it's "value" to the wife :-)
 
I bet its probably kept up with inflation
maybe
 
It cost $13.75.
 
in 1979? ouch
thats liek $80 now
was it plastic cork or cork cork ?
 
Real cork. Plastic ones weren't invented then.
Hmm. Not as expensive as I expected - $145
 
still.... you just drank $145
thats impressive
 
3:11 AM
No, I drank $13.75. And had fun with it. Try it, some of your NZ wines are excellent. The other bottles were over $1.2K last time I checked (bought a dozen for $300ish). Definitely won't mention that to the wife!
 
It was a NZ wine?
I wouldn';t have known.
 
No, Stray-yan.
But NZ wines have become very good.
I should say, that's what capitalism does to us. I kept a few bottles of wine to enjoy later, and some people want to pay to have it, just to "impress" their "friends".
 
I tend to prefer ciders to wines or beer. I'm more into water when riding... never liked the sports drinks.
 
Yeah, my son is really into ciders.
I haven't cultivated the taste.
 
there's a lot more variability for sure.
some are lolly water and some have quite a kick
they range from "tastes like wine" to "fruit drink" to "lemonade"
 
3:17 AM
Better do some more work.
But my cockatiel is squeaking and squarking, and I don't know what he wants :-)
He comes to sit beside me when I'm at the computer.
 
@andy256 I've been reading another "you should use exceptions in C++, they make your code simpler" that after 5000 words gives a concluding example where a simple error becomes ~20 lines of code defining a new type. The benefit is that it produces a compile-time error... or it can't be used at all. Which makes a bit sketchy, IMO. Since (as with joys like the c++ const problem), it means 99% of library code can't work with this "solution".
(just ignore the way he counts 2,1,3,4, as well - he's overloaded natural numbers to fit his worldview better)
APSCI choose to chime in right now with "I have reason to believe that you are insane"
 
hehehe changing the order of counting numbers does seem a little cheatty.
 
3:42 AM
@Móż I refuse to look. Most people have no idea of exceptions; they've heard that they're "good" and so they use them. But it's like any way (Zen) of programming, if you don't understand it deeply (bigly?) then you just mess things up. If you're going to use exceptions then you have start at the design level. And build and test every one. Some are not easy to test :-)
But maybe if they turn the router off, wait ten secs, and turn it on, then it'll work.
Sheesh!
 
@andy256 we do not talk about rooted routers. It's rude.
 
Lol. Cockatiel liked that :-)
 
@andy256 I come from a Pascal/Delphi background where exceptions, especially post-2007 Delphi exceptions, work really well. And in Rust... geez, C++ feels like trying to program assembly on a ZX Spectrum.
I mean, Primoz even has Delphi passing exceptions between thread contexts now. While C++ is still struggling with the idea that perhaps some kind of context associated with an exception might be useful.
I mean, there's context, but not much of it, and turning it into a list of method calls with parameters is allegedly possible (its just that I haven't seen anyone do it except MS with their extensions)
 
3:57 AM
@Móż There was a time when MS asked me to build their new multi-whatsit debugger. It would have to support VB, and I was too busy, and they didn't seem to know what they were talking about ...
Not the whole thing. Just be on the research team. Build protypes. Shit like that.
 
@andy256 you'll be happy to know that right now I'm exchanging JSON with a C# program and it's actually working (well, except for the bit where the sysadmin has to let it through the firewall, but when we tunnel it around that program it works).
 
@Móż What happens when people don't think: abc.net.au/news/2016-10-26/…
@Móż I split my sides laughing when MS announce they supported multi language calls.
Like ... what? We had that when I started programming in 197x. When did they mess that up?
 
@andy256 my first thought is "define multi language" because I kinda suspect that in the fine print it's "between compatible MS languages on their primary x86/64 platform".
 
Compatible languages?
 
@andy256 register calling conventions, man, think about it. When they decided that like 6 half-width registers would be enough for anyone.
@andy256 I vaguely remember that when I looked at F# just after release you couldn't pass "complex things" to non-F# programs. Complex including tuples, which if you think about functional programming for, oh, a nanosecond, you might see as something of a problem.
 
4:03 AM
Nahhhh
@Móż There was a time when everyone knew how to call the other languages. There were conventions. But then people thought they'd be clever ...
 
@andy256 I still live in a world where there's c and pascal conventions, and register conventions, and then there's the C++ name mangling fiasco and the wheels all fall off now.
 
@Móż Ah, name mangling. Just compiler level stuff. Get to the metal :-)
 
I've imported/interfaced C/++ libraries to Delphi enough times to know that you are better off writing an OO wrapper to the C version that trying to cope with the C++ version 99% of the time.
The other 1% you should just burn your computer.
 
@Móż Full circle. Because most people writing C++ have no idea ...
@Móż Which explains why I couldn't get work writing C++.
@Móż But I digress. All day. Better do some work ...
 
@andy256 I still cannot forgive the MySQL C++ library for throwing a non-exception (yes, it's bloody legal in C++, you can shut up now). So I use the "hideously ugly" C version that at least behaves in a predictable way.
@andy256 work is overrated. I am waiting for SysAd to pull finger out, after having had it explained to me that he will take SSH away if I tunnel things through it without approval.
 
4:10 AM
@Móż Ah, the power, the power, ...
 
 
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