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8:51 AM
@Rider_X They exist because some people like building things more than they like riding. There's a fucton of building in a camping trailer, and I'm going to guess also not a lot of riding. Like I said in my answer, I've cycle toured with big heavy things and it's not a huge amount of fun. I now tour with less, but still heavy compared to actual lightweight tourists (I find it hard to leave the DSLR at home, for starters)
The idea of having a big comfy shed when I'm at a campsite appeals quite a lot, especially on the third or forth day of solid rain. Or when there are mosquitoes in quantities that defy polite description.
But for those days... I carry a credit card. I'm not too proud to rent a cabin or motel room, screw being wet, cold, miserable and principled. I think the worst was riding from Chch to Arthur's pass, just at the bottom of the first hill it started raining and the promised southerly change turned out to be a lie, so I rode ~120km, climbed ~800m, into a cold, rainy headwind. By the time I got to the pub $120 for a night in a dry room with a shower seemed like a bargain.
I went to uni with a triathalete who used to ride to almost there, run ~30km round one of the walking loops, then ride home. Pretty much guaranteed a tail wind one way, but still a long day.
@Batman I quite like that idea. It would make a good base for a touring bike, I think, if you wanted an upright touring bike for some reason. But it needs a pinion drive option, I think (or maybe I just want a pinion drive)
 
9:33 AM
Course you do - gotta collect the set somehow :)
A mid-frame gearbox would be great, but as I've said before, needs standardisation.
so a frame with a whacking great hole in it
but all the bolts and offsets are documented
you can put what you like inside the box, but the box has to fit the mounts.
Of course, noone big will go for it
and noone small could make it stick in the first place
@Móż Scariest ride up porters pass is on the old stagecoach track.
It doodles along the valley floor and at the very end it goes straight up, about a 20-30% grade.
back when it was a stagecoach route, you had to get out and walk it, and the men had to help push the coach up that bit.
 
 
2 hours later…
11:26 AM
How to confuse buyers
he shows a schlumph drive but pictures it with two chainrings.
 

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