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Anwar Shah

6:00 PM

That will be helpful imo

Conor

@edwinksl What does LTS stand for?

Zanna

LTS =Long Term Support

edwinksl

long-term support

Anwar Shah

5 years of support :)

Zanna

sorry... I was writing an equally useless message to Anwar about how I need many many more upvotes to see the deleted answer

edwinksl

6:03 PM

@Zanna you will get there in no time

Anwar Shah

It will not take much time I think

jokerdino

@anwar, are you on telegram? o.O

Anwar Shah

btw, the message was for mods

@jokerdino was. not using these days

Zanna

yes, hence useless message :)

Anwar Shah

Testing new software is a hobby :D

jokerdino

6:05 PM

@AnwarShah considering that OP deleted his own answer and made an edit addressing one of the comments left on his question, I think the problem is back and he is looking for an answer once again.

CodeX

2buntu.com never saw that

@CodeX ssshhhh

thanks @edwinksl ;)

ah! I see now!

@AnwarShah better you put it in the open. Sometimes, I want to see how others react before I respond.

CodeX

6:07 PM

OK joker

Jokerdino

jokerdino

@AnwarShah good

Retract your vote?

Anwar Shah

you wanted me to retract?

no, I haven't yet

jokerdino

No, I am asking if it should be retracted.

Anwar Shah

or can i ?

jokerdino

sorry, just a little dazed.

Not sure, use your discretion.

Anwar Shah

6:13 PM

I see I can't retract delete or undelete votes

jokerdino

no, talking about the close vote.

Anwar Shah

oh. I haven't voted

I was talking about undelete one

well, i think there was my vote. retracted

...yeah.

mods see everything

...no.

6:15 PM

you're guessing..?

jokerdino

No

Anwar Shah

so?

I have only 2 votes left for today!

jokerdino

I think it was @edwin and you

edwinksl

yeah i retracted mine

Anwar Shah

there's still 1

jokerdino

6:17 PM

the one who left the comment

Anwar Shah

so, mods don't see close voters...

jokerdino

roles eyes

Anwar Shah

not fair...

jokerdino

@AnwarShah that's a lot. I dont use 2 everyday.

Anwar Shah

I don't know how that happens! only realized when the message shown

newbie hits an old question but is it true?

Mine has no Desktop->Gnome->LockDown

@edwinksl can you check yours please?

IanC

6:26 PM

afternoon!

CodeX

Always On AMOLED (Display some information at all times) - f-droid.org/app/com.tomer.alwayson

Nice app

edwinksl

@AnwarShah i don't have gconf-editor installed

Anwar Shah

oh..wait

he said, gconf and i was checking dconf :(

Zanna

easy mistake to make

jokerdino

why is he digging up such an old question?

Who is even using 10.04?!

Zanna

6:28 PM

I really need to RTFM for gpg >_<

Anwar Shah

badge?

jokerdino

shrug

Anwar Shah

can be made a generic question imo

and cv to that one?

jokerdino

I didn't touch it.

Anwar Shah

formatting?

jokerdino

6:34 PM

O.o

looks like an audit to me

Anwar Shah

:D

jokerdino

oh man, tomorrow's off \o/

Zanna

:D

Anwar Shah

@edwinksl like it?

jokerdino

technically, this is already tomorrow. I mean today.

Anwar Shah

6:38 PM

@jokerdino same here

jokerdino

@AnwarShah didn't know you folks were liberated on the same day

Anwar Shah

it's not liberation day though

edwinksl

@AnwarShah it really bothers me that uname -r is formatted correctly but the rest are craptastic

jokerdino

@AnwarShah well then, any holiday is liberation day for me

Anwar Shah

@edwinksl You're the editor of the month. I thought, you'd like it :)

@jokerdino same

jokerdino

6:40 PM

The only day I like in the week is holiday.

Anwar Shah

why's that?

jokerdino

Sleeeeep

and lots of time to be on Ask Ubuntu ;)

Zanna

sweeeeet sleeeep

Anwar Shah

there were some other mods I think.

Like Bruno. He's no more a mod I saw!

jokerdino

Yep.

I don't know if I was a mod back when you were around.

I think no.

Anwar Shah

6:43 PM

no. I saw your election, but that time I wasn't active on the site

jokerdino

Hmm, tell me you voted

Anwar Shah

I remember participating on two Elections since then

@jokerdino yeah. voted of course

jokerdino

I wouldn't vote for me if there was election now.

Anwar Shah

I can guess it

jokerdino

:(

do they call it Liberation day or Independence day there?

Anwar Shah

6:46 PM

It's actually National Mourn Day

jokerdino

touching

Anwar Shah

but it's a bit more political :)

some like it, some don't

jokerdino

it's a nice gesture

and you won't have a problem of people spamming you Happy xyz day like what I am getting here.

Anwar Shah

nah

but as a holiday, i think everyone likes it

jokerdino

what about you?

Anwar Shah

6:51 PM

I like holiday :)

jokerdino

haha

Anwar Shah

political answer ;)

jokerdino

it's better to be politically correct, in these times

Anwar Shah

I am actually delaying to spend my last two votes :)

can't agree more

jokerdino

I think I am going to get some sleep and pretend to be patriotic in the morning.

Anwar Shah

6:54 PM

^this is everyone these days

anyway, need to go. good night

jokerdino

cya

Zanna

night :)

edwinksl

7:26 PM

i should try this prank one day... fakeupdate.net

4

Zanna

lol :)

Zacharee1

@Seth you really want that?

Seth

@Zacharee1 I can sell it.

Zacharee1

Hmm

Seth

Then get a G5 or OP3.

Zacharee1

7:33 PM

Can you relink? I lost the transcript

Seth

3 hours ago, by Seth

@Zacharee1 https://wn.nr/7yb7RC

Zacharee1

Slowwwwww h+

Seth

Android authority is slow too.

Zacharee1

Gleam.io was also having trouble

Ask Ubuntu Meta

7:59 PM

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Q: What is it about some answers that attract upvotes?

Here are the two top answers that I've written. They both have 8 upvotes. You'll notice they are relatively simple answers. http://askubuntu.com/a/812186/518562 http://askubuntu.com/a/793353/518562 Now here are two of my own Q&As that I spent quite a bit of time working on, and one has 1 upvo...

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Android Dev

8:17 PM

@Seth Did the NSA break into the entire internet or something?

Or maybe their server is swapping.

Or maybe a main internet distribution site is down.

Seth

8:33 PM

Heh.

They just have too many ads and trackers.

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Android Dev

9:11 PM

@Seth Yeah, I know. You should see speedtest.net

Seth

huh??

Android Dev

@Seth 80% of the page is ads.

Seth

ohh, right. Use speedof.me.

it has ads, but they're not nearly as intrusive.

Android Dev

Good grief! I've earned 160 reputation today!

@Seth good to know.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

9:39 PM

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Q: Why is a zombie waiting for its child?

I'm digging through different sources, but can't find a good description of the anatomy of child reaping. This is a simple case of what I would like to understand. $ cat <( sleep 100 & wait ) & [1] 14247 $ ps ax -O pgid | grep $$ 12126 12126 S pts/17 00:00:00 bash 14248 12126 S pts/17 00:00:...

linux bash ubuntu signals zombie-process

Serg

askubuntu.com/q/812181/295286 VTC the hardware question

Zacharee1

@AndroidDev GASP

@Serg too busy eating cake to realize

Zanna

arch-chroot is a beautiful thing...

Zacharee1

Question of the Day: Should I buy a TMO Note 4 refurbished for $184.99 or one that's new for $257.99?

Serg

@Zacharee1 yeah, i thought the same

Zacharee1

9:44 PM

@Zanna that almost sounds like Scottish accent words :p

but with huge exaggeration

arch laddy

Serg

@Zacharee1 you have hand-held device shopping addiction, confirmed !!!!

Zacharee1

chroot yeself oer thar

@Serg To switch to T-Mobile we need T-Mobile phones. I want to keep my Note and so does my mom

so we need to go to eBay

Now, back to my Excel spreadsheet

Zanna

would it be bad cheating if I alias grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg to update-grub in Arch?

Serg

@Zanna um , at least on ubuntu there is already update-grub command , so it might be in conflict

IanC

DESCRIPTION
update-grub is a stub for running grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
to generate a grub2 config file.

Zanna

9:49 PM

it's only in Ubuntu

that command does what update-grub does in all the other Linuxes afaik

thanks @CodeX

edwinksl

@Zanna ?

@Zacharee1 excel???

Zanna

eh?

edwinksl

looks to me you pinged wrong person

IanC

I really should pic a more distinct avatar hahaha

Zanna

oh yes, I meant thanks @IanC

sorry!

IanC

9:52 PM

np :)

edwinksl

people, that's what too much arch sorcery does to you

Zanna

hahaha :) that's nice

Serg

DIR:/xieerqi|16:01|skolodya@ubuntu:
$ file $(which update-grub)
/usr/sbin/update-grub: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable

DIR:/xieerqi|16:01|skolodya@ubuntu:
$ cat $(which update-grub)
#!/bin/sh
set -e
exec grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg "$@"

@Zanna welp , you are correct

Zanna

it was meant to be a joke, like, you can take the user out of ubuntu, but you can't take ubuntu out of the user

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edwinksl

ubunut in serg's case

Serg

10:05 PM

Ubunut , the nuttiest of them all

IanC

I forgot what the $@ at the end means

Zanna

awww I broke my wireless interface

IanC

does it expand to all the arguments?

Seth

@IanC yes, as strings.

IanC

thanks @Seth!

Seth

10:07 PM

@Serg @edwinksl ubunut could even be a title! In a good way.

IanC

a bit useless on this script though, since the only options for grub-mkconfig are -h for help and -v for version

user136984

Anyone got any ideas?

user136984

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I have recently noticed that there is a grey border the same colour as the GNOME login screen background which is about 1 or 2 pixels thick and goes on the top and right edge of my screen as can be seen in this screenshot (I edited it in GIMP so that all but the grey has been turned to white so y...

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Seth

@IanC I'm not sure it means what you think it does anymore. $@ expands to all the arugments passed to a script (in this case Serg's script). It doesn't mean it expands to all the arguments grub-mkconfig offers.

err, in this case the update-grub script.

Zanna

oh I broke something else... :(

Serg

10:10 PM

@IanC yes , that expands to a string of command line arguments. It is very useful when you want to preserve each argument , it's the same as "$1" , "$2" , "$3" and so on

IanC

@Seth yeah, I meant the arguments parsed to the script. Like update-grub something. But it will pass those arguments to grub-mkconfig, by appending it to the end of the script as a string

but since grub-mkconfig doesn't have any option besides -h and -v doesn't seem really necessary to have "$@" there

Seth

@IanC that is correct. I thought you might have meant it will expand to all of the possible grub-mkconfig arguments :)

TIL: $* will expand to all the arugments, but concatenated together in one string.

Serg

Here

DIR:/xieerqi|16:12|skolodya@ubuntu:
$ bash args_test.sh 'one two' three
one two three
one two
three

DIR:/xieerqi|16:12|skolodya@ubuntu:
$ cat args_test.sh
for item in "$*"
do
   echo "$item"
done

for item in "$@"
do
   echo "$item"
done

Zanna

Hurrah! my Arch boots!

IanC

yeah, $* and $@ are different, $* will parse all arguments as only one argument

I mean, it was something like that, been a while I don't review bash script haha

Serg

10:14 PM

@IanC same as char **args[] in C

Seth

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Has anyone ever seen type micro-A or mini-A?

Serg

@IanC by the way, where are you with that C book ? when do you want to start doing Ruby ?

IanC

@Serg I'm on lesson 30, still 20 and something to finish it

Serg

@Seth I have seen mini-a, but not micro a

IanC

since they are getting a little more complicated now it's taking me a bit more time to finish each lesson

Seth

10:17 PM

@Serg where?

Serg

@Seth uh . . .what do you mean "where" ? here is the US . . . cellphone charger

Seth

@Serg pretty sure that's micro-B

Zacharee1

@Seth Mini A looks the same as Micro B

user136984

Well, goodnight everyone! :)

Zacharee1

but the connectors are on the other side

user136984

10:25 PM

I wish they'd hurry up with releasing the updated kernel version with that patch! The 27th is just too far off!

Seth

@Zacharee1 they look similar, but if you look at the profiles below you will see how they are different.

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda I'm surprised they even released the details before a patch was released

Serg

@Zacharee1 yup , the pins are in different positions

welp, i just dug through all my usb cables ( at least those i know where to find ) , and seems like all of the ones i have are micro -b

Zacharee1

yeah

I never even knew Micro and Mini had A and B versions

I thought it was just Micro and Mini

Seth

me either.

Nathan Osman

10:56 PM

o/

@Zacharee1 USB ...

As opposed to USA :D

Zacharee1

rly

Nathan Osman

(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

Zacharee1

u did that

rly

@Zanna wai u stiel anser

Serg

The amount of USB connectors is too damn high ! ( throw back to previous election, anyone ? )

Nathan Osman

There is lots to be said about USB connectors.

Zacharee1

11:07 PM

@Serg Make USB Great Again™

@NathanOsman I have a great relationship with the USBs. The USBs love me.

upvote before Pilot downvotes :p askubuntu.com/questions/812316/…

Serg

Welp , aside from all that , USB is one of the best protocols ever. We can has bunch of jump drives, USB keyboards, mouses, even fans and LED lights, coffee cup warmers , you name it

The world is cray-z about UBS

Zacharee1

we can has?

@Serg that's why it's called Universal

Nathan Osman

@Serg USB teapot, anyone?

Zacharee1

lol

what about a USB powered water boiler though?

Serg

Ha, I expected actual teapot for boiling water

@Zacharee1 eh, probably not likely. You can't boil on only 5 Volts of power . . . although with some amplification, maybe

Nathan Osman

11:12 PM

@Serg Then it can return the "418 I'm a teapot" HTTP response code.

Zacharee1

I love that *nix devs actually put some humor in stuff

Serg

Father just came into my room, dropped the 10 and 50 yuan bills I gave him as souveniers and left . . . sigh . . . this family is stuped

Zacharee1

wat

Nathan Osman

Well, here's a USB fundue:

Serg

I like this code:

> 417 Expectation Failed
The server cannot meet the requirements of the Expect request-header field.[51]

Nathan Osman

11:14 PM

No idea how it gets enough heat from 5V DC but...

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman direct short of course

Nathan Osman

LOL.

Zacharee1

OT askubuntu.com/questions/812327/…

probable OSX askubuntu.com/questions/812319/…

Nathan Osman

"duel boot"

3

Serg

> " Sir , your OS is a coward, I shall challenge thee to a duel of boots "

9

Nathan Osman

11:17 PM

Lol.

Zacharee1

Zorin does look like a really cool OS though

Serg

tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7168

The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA)

Nathan Osman

IoT before it was cool.

Zanna

@Zacharee1 well spotted hehe

Past my bedtime zzzzzzz

Serg

List of Google April Fools' Day jokes

Google frequently inserts jokes and hoaxes into its products on April Fools' Day. == 2000 == Google's first April Fools' Day hoax, the MentalPlex hoax, invited users to project a mental image of what they wanted to find whilst staring at an animated gif. Several humorous error messages were then displayed on the search results page, all listed below: Error 001: KUT Weak or no signal detected. Upgrade transmitter and retry. Error 666: Multiple transmitters detected. Silence voices in your head and try again. Error 01: Brainwaves received in analog. Please re-think in digital. Error 8P: Unclear on...

Lin/Ax kernels XD

Serg

11:35 PM

sigh . . . .at least i can have humor here . . .

Zacharee1

/ban @Serg reason:humor

Serg

@Zacharee1 nooooooooooooooo.com

Zacharee1

Ooh, they have an app

Serg

yesh zey tooo

Nathan Osman

What's this?

Zacharee1

11:41 PM

Wut

Say yes and see what happens

my thoughts exactly.

If you're lucky

@NathanOsman it probably means that kexec will be loading kernelz, in stead of grubz

Nathan Osman

So looks like I want to select "no" then.

I'm about to rebuild my kernel.

We're going to soon find out what 16 GB of RAM can do to help.

Build underway...

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

11:54 PM

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Q: LVM: /dev/mapper/vg-volume or /dev/vg/volume when mounting?

Recently, when adding a new logical volume to my /etc/fstab, I noticed something odd: some of the volumes were referenced as /dev/mapper/vg-volume and others as /dev/vg/volume. Therefore, I decided to choose a common notation but I am unsure which one to use since both are currently in use and ...

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