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9:04 AM

thank you ;)

@Fabby had a long long phone call this morning

:)

At work. I just came here to close this tab.

hehehe

huh, looks like i still got my +2 rep for an edit on a post that has been deleted

can take a moment for the system to reflect that

yeah

just curious because i actually wanted to write an answer if the question was sufficiently edited

9:21 AM

Evening all...

hello andrew

We need a hammer: askubuntu.com/q/786363/367990

@Videonauth I am feeling mellow after a bad day at work but a satisfying evening with Game of Thrones :)

hehe

oh nice we have a GoT fan here

the latest episode was rather underwhelming for an episode 8

9:25 AM

OK. STOP NOW! No spoilers on pain of being kick banned

grrrrr

xD

xD

>! test

damn does not work

askubuntu.com/q/786369/15003 seems like it would mostly be about opinions

Hi, where can I find information about the available versions of some packages in both Ubuntu 14.04 and Ubuntu 16.04? (without installing them and checking for myself)

9:27 AM

Season is almost over :(

@RomanRdgz packages.ubuntu.com

thanks

askubuntu.com/questions/786357/… should probably be nuked

Any mod around? Offensive username detected.

@StefanoPalazzo Do you have a minute? I just spotted a potentially offensive username again... The author of askubuntu.com/q/786369/367990

How can you activate this feature Include a delete command bypasses Trash by a one-liner?

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Q: How to Make MoveToTrash mean Delete Permanently in Ubuntu?

I did Move to Trash > Empty Trash. However, .fileNames and .directoryNames stay in the filesystem those .files/.directories which have exactly the same name as my deleted files/directories For instance, select to host the folder where you did removals. All your removals will be shared too. Th...

ubuntu deleted-files

I really need to the change in terminal, without the GUI.

Stefano Palazzo

9:35 AM

Oh man.. :(

I think gsettings can be the way to go.

@ByteCommander indeed

i dont even want to translate the aftername from german to english

i didn't realize it was an offensive name :(

@Videonauth Now the only question is whether to translate the second part of the second word of the name to "chair" or to the same as the first part of the second word...

well the first part ;)

Stefano Palazzo

9:41 AM

Completely childish.

Irrespective of the language.

hehehe xD

@Masi I looked through dconf-editor and here it is: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences enable-delete true

@BharadwajRaju Thank you! Do you want to answer it yourself there?

Feel free so I accept it.

It would be great if you can explain there how did you found/make the command for me to understand similar challenges later too.

Posted

Thank you!

9:52 AM

@Masi I just opened dconf-editor and looked where it was likely to be found

I knew gnome was in org and nautilus in gnome

How did you know the syntax?

Like org.gnome.nautilus.preferences? And how did you find enable-delete?

The syntax? Just a few gsettings commands I ran a while ago.

Ok, my problem was that I did not know that it is nautilus.preferences. I thought about unity.preferences and gnome.preferences but they are wrong.

@Masi Basically, Nautilus is a part of Gnome, so org -> gnome -> nautilus -> preferences then Ctrl-F

@Masi Gnome keeps settings of all its apps under org.gnome.

For example Vino has settings in org.gnome.Vino

Similarly for Xfce, Unity etc etc.

Can you please add the explanation there too

It would help for other users too because I am not the first one who thinks about the one-liner

9:55 AM

@Masi You mean how I found it and all?

I'll add that

Yes, thank you!

@Masi Edited

10:15 AM

@masi the answer you accepted here is plain wrong it explains nothing really only shows that you have two times the canonical stuff in the list but doesn't explain why the file is there in first place askubuntu.com/questions/785828/…

it is just a picture variant of my answer which as well not was able to explain why the file was there

@Masi you can list gsettings on screen.

@Rinzwind @Masi gsettings list-recursively | grep nautilus

9 hours to the elections!

Can we only vote for one candidate? Or many?

@BharadwajRaju 3 (in order of preference)

so you pick a #1, #2 and a #3

@BharadwajRaju We have more than 10 candidates, so there will be a primary phase first.

well seems we will have primaries as well and as far i indertood that it si like people voting on a normal Q&A and sorting the candidates this way

10:24 AM

i am so hyped about the election

@Videonauth that'll weed things out :=)

and the end phase is using STV

@BharadwajRaju There's a (very) in depth explanation of it here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/77541/…

would it annoy people if I'd file my election 5 minutes before the closing?

Yes. You have as many votes as you want during primaries, but you may only cast one per other candidate and not for yourself.

@Rinzwind Definitely.

10:25 AM

@Rinzwind you really want me to cry dont you ?

oh and LOL ... the review queue keeps dropping :D

It would lower my own chances even more.

@ByteCommander oh you think you have a chance? :=D

@Rinzwind Yeah, we should hold elections far more often, it really helps to motivate people to do reviews.

@Rinzwind Sure. I believe it's a small chance, but a real chance.

@ByteCommander not me >:)

10:27 AM

My favourite is terdon.

And Jacob Vlijm is probably getting my third vote.

(my first vote is of course for me myself! >:D)

I think I can file a nomination myself.

You?

o.O?

Why?

I don't know. They don't prevent me from trying again.

jokerdino ♦♦

xD

@jokerdino well maybe then you get anothe diamond in front of your name so it would look even :p

10:29 AM

♦ jokerdino ♦ looks better

Should change name to Princess.

But please without the second word...

What second word?

@jokerdino PrincessDino

Princess Diano.

10:34 AM

@Videonauth Thank you for pointing that out! I removed the acceptance.

np

did you see the bugreport i edited into my answer ?

@BharadwajRaju Thank you for the command! This is great: gsettings list-recursively | grep nautilus!

@Masi due to the ! this will show 0 results >:-D

grep -v nautilus

@Videonauth How did you edit the bugreport? I do not see you or your equivalent timestamp in the bugreport history.

10:36 AM

@Masi If you want a GUI for editing Gsettings: askubuntu.com/questions/15262/… It has find / search functionality as well.

@jokerdino Oh a few minutes ago I flagged an offensive username. It was "Princess XXX" where the XXX stood for two German words that translate to "excrement". When you said "Princess", I feared you were referring to that.

It's already cleaned up btw.

good thing we have german speakers around

@ByteCommander hmm never saw that.

@Masi i edited that in shortly after i wrote the last comment to you that you should recheck my answer :)

I only need 54 more LQ queue reviews to get the golden Steward badge (1000 reviews in one queue).

So I could get that one in 3 days - does it count to my candidate score then?

10:39 AM

@Videonauth I think the bugreport is not about our case. I do not get outdated system info.

@ByteCommander 141 for me right now to the golden steward badge for LQ

:O

That's really impressive given the short time you're active here...

@Masi well it was the only little bit i could find with google which comes near to it but well :)

@ByteCommander im closing in on many of the quest to the steward badge in fact, except reopen votes

for first posts i am already 100 over the steward

Yeah, I just saw you got it 6 days ago. Nice, man!

and 17x more votes on questions and im having the electorate :)

if the election would have been a few weeks later my score would most likely look better

10:44 AM

@Masi To your comment at U&L -- done.

Btw, where can I see a full list of badges that count to the candidate score?

just check on terdons profile when you hover over the different names they are listed

@ByteCommander hover over that little box in your nomination

and then simply compare which ones you not have

@ByteCommander This is the 'Noteworthy' list: Deputy
Civic Duty
Convention
Strunk & White
Electorate
Sportsmanship
Pundit
Copy Editor
Outspoken

10:47 AM

@BharadwajRaju But this is from elections.stackexchange.com. It's not the correct list that sums up to the candidate score.

@ByteCommander OK, then.

@jokerdino Then I see the ones I have, but I want to know which ones I'm missing.

@ByteCommandersimply compare with someone who has all of the badges in that line

The only one having 8/8 moderating badges is Tim.

Even terdon only has 7/8

yep im missin convention and electorate

10:51 AM

I'm missing the Steward, but going to get it in 3 days.

But elections close in 9 hours

And from the Participation badges I miss Constituent.

@BharadwajRaju No, the nomination phase closes in 9 hours.

After that, no more new candidates are allowed and we start the primary voting phase.

Still, does the score change after 9 hours?

Ah, Constituent means to vote in the final phase of an election. I'm going to get that as soon as the final voting starts as well, then I have all notable badges. :)

@BharadwajRaju Good question, but I think/hope so.

Don't know for sure... We'll see.

But it would make no sense to freeze the score, would it?

How long do the primaries and the elections last?

10:55 AM

21st all is over

so seven days from today is the primaries and the finals

Thank you for reviewing 20 low quality posts today; come back in 13 hours to continue reviewing.

I don't see the point of the review limit

@BharadwajRaju the pont int the review limit is to give everyone a chance to gain the badges

Me neither. They should be happy if someone does the work and bashes the queue...

@BharadwajRaju It's to stop roboreviewers probably. People who just blindly click through the review tasks to get badges. Yes, that happens.

^ maybe that.

10:58 AM

OK.

But @terdon don't we have the audits for that?

But they could raise or remove the limit as a privilege, e.g. for 10k users.

@BharadwajRaju Those too

example I'm a fairly consistent reviewer and would do all of them in a single day i guess ;) so the other users wouldnt have a chance to have much part on it

@ByteCommander I think they do at some point. Or is that only flags? I don't remember.

@Videonauth With all respect, I don't think you could bash a 1000 items long CV queue on a single day.

11:00 AM

@terdon the flag count you can raise per day raises with reputation over time as well as the amount of close votes possible up to 50 i think

@Videonauth It does not raise with your rep but with the number of approved flags, I think.

mhmm well can be as well i dont know i just see it constantly going up :)

:D

This is also a good point:

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A: Why are suggested edit votes limited?

OK, for now I increased it to 40 -- on Stack Overflow specifically, since there are more edits on the largest site. We really want vote diversity here, so that's the point of the limits -- if the same 2 folks are vetting all the edits, that's not a sufficient set of eyeballs on those edits.

>We really want vote diversity here, so that's the point of the limits

Stefano Palazzo

I answered a question that got 4 close votes in a few minutes, and now nobody dares to cast the fifth close vote

because a mod answered it? :D

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Q: how to know on which window drive(C,D,E), my ubuntu is installed

My ubuntu is installed on /dev/sda11 partition , but how to know on which window drive(C,D,E) , ubuntu is installed

dual-boot partitioning windows

11:03 AM

@StefanoPalazzo why its closed now :p

@StefanoPalazzo Your wish just came true. ;P

Stefano Palazzo

:)

@StefanoPalazzo Couldn't you have closed it yourself?

Stefano Palazzo

@BharadwajRaju Sure, but I usually keep those things open in a tab and wait for the community to do it.

/dev/sda11
:X

nobody noticed the 11? :X

11:04 AM

wat

@Rinzwind I did. Must have a great number of partitions

Hm?

Stefano Palazzo

What's wrong with the number 11?

@Rinzwind thast still a smal number ;)

Is anything wrong with the 11?

11:05 AM

@StefanoPalazzo it means there is a 1 through 10 :=D

wtf do you need 11 partitions

Stefano Palazzo

haha

Windows.

@Rinzwind I have 3 OSes and somehow like 12 partitions

@Zacharee1 if you do that you use 3 disks. Keep the stuff seperated

I have 9 partitions (including an NTFS partition)

11:06 AM

Even the basic W10 installation on an UEFI machine takes about 5 partitions.

@Rinzwind as @ByteCommander already said windows is more likely to cause you to create so many partitions, i have here one drive with about 20 on it

Stefano Palazzo

I have no idea how many partitions I have -_-

I just click "OK" all the time.

@Rinzwind I have 2. One for both Windows installs and the other for Ubuntu, data, bootloaders and other OSes I may install

@StefanoPalazzo sudo fdisk -l

hahahhaa

11:07 AM

@Videonauth sure BUT it is a lot better to put each operating system on a different disk if you have more than a few operating systems. Makes it so much more easy if there is a problem

I have a system here with ... let's see

well i got one for DEVEL, one for HTTP, one for FTP one for videos one for music, one for ebooks etc etc etc

Ubuntu 6.06. Ubuntu 8.06 Ubuntu 11.04 Ubuntu 12.04 Ubuntu 16.04
CentOS. Redhat, SUSE

some IBM OS.

probably AIX

uh

Stefano Palazzo

Five partitions

One os

6.06? Why the heck?

11:08 AM

@Rinzwind What are those old versions doing?

all have their own disk >:-D

@Rinzwind Waste of space

@Rinzwind is 6.06 an Ubuntu version though?

@BharadwajRaju file storage

@Zacharee1 6.04 >:)

Also, please close this Q and maybe even delete it, it contains the OP's private address: askubuntu.com/q/786286/367990

11:09 AM

@Rinzwind tsk

@BharadwajRaju sorry no. it is a legal issue ;-)

Stefano Palazzo

Rinzwind has the Necromancer badge 12 times

Just saying :P

we have copies of ALL our clients data on the OS it was originally used

@Rinzwind Why not VMs?

@BharadwajRaju naah. We started using google clouds for the newer stuff ;-)

11:10 AM

@Rinzwind is a necrophiliac for old OSes

@BharadwajRaju VM's can break if the supporting platform changes, a real instalation will always be accessible

@Zacharee1 hey I answered a few Q's using those old systems on AU >:-D

That doesn't help your case

hell my boss has a MAI BASIC FOUR at home

@Zacharee1 It was Dapper Drake old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06.0

11:11 AM

wanna see a pixs of that?

Stefano Palazzo

@ByteCommander I assume they knew they're posting it on a public website

So not the end of the world

But I removed it anyway.

why is there a 6.06? o-o

user image

@StefanoPalazzo Yesterday I asked a user for a screenshot and they uploaded it to their email and posted the password here. Awful.

Stefano Palazzo

Why have you got a keyboard on your washing machine

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@BharadwajRaju yikes

11:13 AM

@BharadwajRaju wtf :D

@Zacharee1 we did not always have the .04 and .10 I believe? Not in the beginning.

@Zacharee1 Why not?

@Videonauth Unless your hardware dies of old age.

@Rinzwind o-O

@terdon why?

or that

You realize you get older after people around you don't know anything about the close relationship between a pencil and a compact cassette.

7

11:15 AM

i have a few HDDS in my shelfs which contain 10 year old data

@terdon I think @Zacharee1 means why it has a .06, since we always have .04 and .10

@Takkat :)

;)

@Rinzwind 6.06 was the odd one out, we had the .10/.04 system before that -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases

So there wasn't even a 6.04

what happened?

11:17 AM

This user is continuing to post answers that should be edits to his same question: askubuntu.com/q/786156/367990

> Ubuntu 6.06 was released behind schedule, having been intended as 6.04. It is sometimes jokingly described as their first 'Late To Ship' (LTS) release.[28] Development was not complete in April 2006 and Mark Shuttleworth approved slipping the release date to June, making it 6.06 instead.[29]

@ByteCommander edits them

Seriously though, where did @kos go?

@Takkat You can use the pencil to write something on the label sticker ;-)

tsk - too easy :D

The label stickers were glossy... so the pencil marks would not come out too well.

@Takkat You mean spinning the pencil in a hole to manually rewind the tape? I used my finger

it was much faster with a pencil

11:21 AM

And less painful

@Takkat I think the three people who starred that are the three people over 30 in the room :)

I never had a pencil on me though

@terdon no longer

Rewinding cassette with pen.

@terdon It's 5 people, and I'm far below 30 years old. ;)

@Zacharee1 Use a drill.

@ByteCommander perfect

11:25 AM

my kids had to learn how to write "video cassette" in school... they went like "huh video what?" - I explained... answer: "oh - that black boxes with the endless long tape coming out if you pull"

Fastest cassette rewinder EVER!

What happens to manually installed .deb packages during a release upgrade?

@ByteCommander they stay there as manually installed.

o_O

A tiny electric motor (this one) should be perfect.

Oh, Launchpad is down!

11:35 AM

@ByteCommander huh works perfect on me

@ByteCommander Closed: WORKSFORME

@ByteCommander Did you check your DNS servers?

user image

Got that while visiting this link: launchpad.net/unity8-preview-lxc

loads for me

@ByteCommander Looks like the "couple of minutes" are over.

Anyways, from that page:

> Unfortunately, unity8-preview-lxc is a deprecated project

Yes, now it works again.

@BharadwajRaju That's what I wanted to check. I reviewed a suggested edit that added a deprecation warning to an answer using this link as reference. I just wanted to verify that.

11:41 AM

We should block/delete any question that says 'Skincare'

Journeyman Geek

@BharadwajRaju any, no, most, likely.

and more likely you wanna flag it

@Ravan Nice to see you again my friend ! What's with the probation ?

@Serg What probation?

11:56 AM

@BharadwajRaju ah, wrong choice of words. He meant job training.

How can you set Gnash the default flash player of Chromium?

Thread here unix.stackexchange.com/q/288715/16920

I can do it only in Firefox but not in Chromium. Is it theoretically possible?

I just need a verification if it it is not then I will close the thread. If it is not, then I want to understand why not.

System: Ubuntu 16.04.

Chromium's Pepperflash is much better

Though it is not open source

APT package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree

Great! I did not know. Is it this one http://unix.stackexchange.com/q/288715/16920?

browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash - PPAPI-host NPAPI-plugin adapter for pepperflash

@BharadwajRaju Please, also answer this thread too because your proposal seems to be the only working one.

Both should work

@BharadwajRaju I cannot get gnash work in Chromium.

12:04 PM

Why don't you post at U&L instead of AU

Please, let me know how Gnash works in your Chromium.

@BharadwajRaju Because I am hitting the limits in AU.

I meant both browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash and pepperflashplugin-nonfree packages should work

I didn't know there was a limit

Answering

Great! Your proposal works, just out of the box :)

@Masi Answered

Please, include the second package too browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash and pepperflashplugin-nonfree.

12:08 PM

Did you have to install both or did the pepperflashplugin-nonfree work?

I had to install both.

OK, saw your comment at UL. Editing

@BharadwajRaju Actually, your first proposal seems to work too alone. Put there include this package too if it the first one fails.

@Masi Edited.

Thank you!

12:11 PM

I just had to reboot my router, so it got delayed.

I hate it when websites still use Flash for videos.

Bye

:q

12:38 PM

Today I've learned that motherboards can be submerged into mineral oil for cooling: pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

@Serg Yeah. I've actually considered that for a project before. My concern then was that if you leave stuff sitting in non-conductive gloop for a long time, would empty stagnant areas (eg PCI/RAM slots) be usable at a later date. You'd be coating everything with thick non-conductive gloop. You'd have to blow pretty hard to get it off.

@Serg I learned of this a few days ago in a SuperUser StackExchange question (it got into the hot network questions list) which asked if a computer could be submerged in distilled water since it was not a conductor

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Q: Is it possible to run a motherboard in distilled water?

I have read that distilled water doesn't conduct electricity. This, in other words, means that we can submerge electronic devices like PCs/laptops in it and run them without any problem. I haven't seen much information about this on the internet, but it should be possible. So, can you really run...

motherboard desktop-computer water-cooling

@BharadwajRaju Yeah problem with distilled water is stops being distilled pretty rapidly.

@Oli @BharadwajRaju I've learned that exactly through that question, they've got link to what I've posted too. And yes, pure water doesnt stay pure for long time :)

@Serg but if you take all the oxygen out of it.... :p

(read the comments)

12:46 PM

@Oli draining those areas is probably a problem, because oil doesn't dry out as easily

@Zacharee1 What's the formula for water ? H2O Hmmmm, If we take out all the oxygen wouldn't that turn into just gas ?

( that's probably taken to the extreme )

@Zacharee1 you mean these: superuser.com/questions/1087661/… and superuser.com/questions/1087661/…

yep @Serg

everyone: I need an idea of a sort of homepage to put on my home server

something with links to the various web pages and services

"various" meaning "one" currently :P

While it might be possible to de-oxygen-ize the water (which I don't think possible, since water is H₂O):

> The whole exercise is a total waste of time for other reasons mentioned by others

If you take oxygen out of water, it ain't water ;p

And if you burn the product... well, you get water. :)

And yes, it's possible with a simple electrolysis experiment.

12:53 PM

@BharadwajRaju Why in the world does rust require water? It requires oxygen, yes, but not water.

@Zacharee1 here's an idea for ya , there's plenty of links there meituan.com

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Q: Why can't rust form without water?

Shouldn't iron oxide be able to form without water? It is just iron and oxygen. I don't really understand what the dot followed by the $\ce{H2O}$ means either. I was reading on wikipedia, but I have a rather terrible understanding of chemistry. What purpose does water serve in rust formation, an...

inorganic-chemistry everyday-chemistry redox

@terdon The whole point is an attempt to run a motherboard in (distilled) water

@Serg Chinese, of course :p

EWWWW

@Zacharee1 I see you like it a lot ^_^

12:55 PM

@BharadwajRaju I know. I am commenting on this statement:

Rust requires water, oxygen and heat. Water and heat are available, and I guess the water was saturated with oxygen from the start or after handling it. Would be intersting to see in a lab enviroment if without oxygen the whole system would work better. Though I think in the long run the lack of real cooling and heat dissipation could be a problem, depending on the volume of the water and the purpose of the computer. — HopefullyHelpful yesterday

@Zacharee1 Google translate is your friend

Rust doesn't require water.

@Serg what evil force prompted you to show me such a vile thing?

@Zacharee1 that's pretty much a typical chinese web-page , you'll see that style everywhere

@BharadwajRaju the layout is what's bad

@Serg It's so messy

12:56 PM

It's not that bad... :)

Wait, it changed

o_O

It's all logical chemistry formulas.

@Serg it's better now

idk what happened

O.o better now ? Are we seeing the same thing ?

It looked terrible the first time it loaded

12:58 PM

@Zacharee1 @Serg Yeah, the layout just got a lot better after refreshing (what?)

then I went back to it and it looked fine

Ya'll interwebs connection is weird . . . .me be going for de smokez , bbl

Also, speaking of google translate, this was a great script I found: webupd8.org/2016/03/translate-any-text-you-select-on-your.html

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