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Videonauth

4:06 PM

anyone of you caracks know whats causing a virtualbox kernel modules are not running problem on a host machine?

i get this notification all the time i boot up my main machine, but not on my laptop

cl-netbox

@Videonauth do you have dkms installed ?

Videonauth

virtualbox-dkms:
  Installed: 5.0.18-dfsg-2build1
  Candidate: 5.0.18-dfsg-2build1
  Version table:
 *** 5.0.18-dfsg-2build1 500
        500 archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/multiverse amd64 Packages
        500 archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/multiverse i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

cl-netbox

@jokerdino please tell me when finished the merge. :)

Videonauth

is that what causes this ?

cl-netbox

no ... I mean the dkms package ->
cl@cl-UW-1:~$ apt policy dkms
dkms:
Installed: 2.2.0.3-2ubuntu11
Candidate: 2.2.0.3-2ubuntu11
Version table:
*** 2.2.0.3-2ubuntu11 500
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Videonauth

4:11 PM

dkms:
  Installed: 2.2.0.3-2ubuntu11
  Candidate: 2.2.0.3-2ubuntu11
  Version table:
 *** 2.2.0.3-2ubuntu11 500
        500 archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
        500 archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Luis Alvarado

@Pandya Thank you sir

cl-netbox

Hi @LuisAlvarado ! :)

Luis Alvarado

BTW anybody know of how I can set the askubuntu chat to show on my desktop without me having google chrome or firefox opened? is there an app?

cl-netbox

@LuisAlvarado as far as I know not ... :)

Luis Alvarado

Thank you @cl-netbox

cl-netbox

4:16 PM

@LuisAlvarado You're welcome ! :) ... what you can do is create a .desktop file ... but this launches a browser instance as well ... :)

Rinzwind

@LuisAlvarado gratz on 100k ;)

Luis Alvarado

Hi @Rinzwind ... or should I say... MY NEMESIS!

Rinzwind

:+)

you better catch fossy. he's easy to pass :=)

cl-netbox

@LuisAlvarado 100.000 points ? wow ... congrats from me as well ! :) great job ! Are you hunting our friend @Rinzwind ? :D :D :D

Rinzwind

@cl-netbox nah he lost the challenge ;-)

cl-netbox

4:19 PM

@Rinzwind hahaha ... and if he comes close you give it all you've got to pass @Oli ... that's for sure ! :D

Rinzwind

cant catch oli. he makes on average more than anyone

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind no problem ... you can be proud of what you already achieved ... so many great answers and so many points ! :)

Rinzwind

I delete a lot so all the bad ones are gone >:-)

cl-netbox

@Videonauth this problem is most probably dynamic kernel module support related ... sometimes a reinstall of dkms related packages and reboot of host helps. :)

Videonauth

uh oh reinstalling ubuntu ?

Luis Alvarado

4:27 PM

I have been almost dead for the past 2 years establishing in Costa Rica, but I am know settling, so should be more active like before (cleaning site, tickets, etc..)

Videonauth

i just installed yesterday

cl-netbox

@Videonauth no ... dkms related packages

Videonauth

ok lets see :)

didn't help still getting the notify Virtualbox Client: ...

Seth

@LuisAlvarado great to have you back!

cl-netbox

4:44 PM

@Videonauth which version of vbox do you use ?

Videonauth

5.0.18

installed from the ubuntu repos

i guess

not any ppa version

i just wonder where i can find any logfile about this

Zacharee1

@LuisAlvarado o_O

cl-netbox

@Videonauth please try this -> askubuntu.com/questions/744994/… - replace vivid with xenial - download ext-pack from vbox website -> download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.0.20/… and insert it manually -> askubuntu.com/questions/718446/… :) then you can always use the latest vbox version and this works properly ! :)

Videonauth

ok sounds like a plan i just going on and purge it then doing a reboot and do the rest

there are enough errors i have to investigate in my syslog tho

^^

cl-netbox

@Videonauth I have tested everything on different machines and ubuntu editions, it really works great without any problems ... just follow exactly the instructions. :)

Videonauth

4:53 PM

rebooting brb

back

Zacharee1

submit a name for Android N

They have a section that says Narshmalow

Videonauth

submit --> NARF

Zacharee1

heh

I said Netflix as a joke

Videonauth

@cl-netbox

W: GPG error: download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A2F683C52980AECF
W: The repository 'http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial InRelease' is not signed.
N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:

i did the key step before tho

Zacharee1

Is there a way to bypass the key verification?

Videonauth

5:02 PM

there might be but i just did the wget command without the sudo apt-key add - and the key looks ok

cl-netbox

@Videonauth can you install it nevertheless ?

Videonauth

yes sure i can install a package without verification but i will get this error message every time i run apt-get update

cl-netbox

@Videonauth this is no problem ... same with Google Chrome -> askubuntu.com/questions/724093/… ... please read at the bottom ... just ignore this error ... :)

Videonauth

yeah there are more problems to it if i try to install for example the virtualbox.gues.additions-iso it will remove virtualbox-5.0 and install the ubuntu version again :p

or at least it would if i press y

i wonder if the key has changed maybe ?

cl-netbox

@Videonauth do NOT install that iso - download it as I described ...

Videonauth

5:15 PM

yeah just dl it from oracle website

and the extension pack aswell

cl-netbox

@Videonauth no do NOT download the main vbox from ORACLE - when you added the repo it should be offered version 5.0.20 - download only the ext-pack

Videonauth

yeah i did but downloaded the extension pack and the iso for guest

installes the ext pack through virtualbox itself

cl-netbox

@Videonauth you only need the ext-pack ... please insert the ext-pack as I described in my answer

Videonauth

did

so i not need to install the iso anymore in the guest system ?

cl-netbox

@Videonauth no ... please read this -> virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads

Videonauth

5:23 PM

virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox_2016.asc

the key has changed

wget -q -O - virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox_2016.asc | sudo apt-key add -

you can add this to your answer

cl-netbox

@Videonauth : The only thing that is described wrong on this site is the sources.list ... it has to be sources.list.d/oracle-vbox.list

Videonauth

this is for debian8 and 16.04

cl-netbox

@Videonauth no - what I wrote was valid for the versions as of time answering the question ... for xenial answers this is correct. :)

Videonauth

now im not getting that error anymore about no key :)

did you see that i added a line in your answer ?

cl-netbox

@Videonauth no ... where ?

Videonauth

5:28 PM

6

A: Not able to install Virtual box in Ubuntu

Although Ubuntu 15.04 is not supported anymore, you can install VirtualBox this way : First completely remove all traces from the previous VirtualBox installation attempts. sudo apt-get purge "^virtualbox-.*" Download and register the ORACLE public key. wget -q -O - https://www.virtua...

cl-netbox

@Videonauth nice ! :)

Videonauth

i think i makes sense or you will see alot questions comming up i followed ...xxx and i get error

cl-netbox

@Videonauth maybe I check all my old vbox answers and change it ... :)

@Videonauth thanks for your edit ... but you forgot something maybe ? what about adding upvotes when the answers were useful for you ? :D

Videonauth

xD

cl-netbox

@Videonauth nice ! :) thanks ! :)

Videonauth

5:33 PM

well i only changed the line in your first answer the second one you might have to update yourself :)

speaking of this askubuntu.com/a/719378/522934 one

cl-netbox

@Videonauth just checked ... I made some 15 answers where I have to change it ... :)

Videonauth

wow ok :p

so now going to check on the other errors in my syslog

want it to run as smoothly as possible

cl-netbox

@Videonauth okay ... I have to go now and do some maintenance jobs on my wife's ubuntu ... see you tomorrow ... hope your vbox problem is solved now ... was a pleasure talking with you ! :)

Videonauth

only good thing is i have run in many troubles on my laptop already

yeas its solved just did a restart and no annoying messages

cl-netbox

@Videonauth that really makes me happy ! :)

Videonauth

5:40 PM

shouldnt the lines for virtualbox not be in a seperate file ?

cl-netbox

@Videonauth which lines ?

Videonauth

in sources.list

cl-netbox

@Videonauth remove the line ! chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/29791120#29791120 ... echo "deb download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian * contrib" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/oracle-vbox.list

Videonauth

kk

cl-netbox

@Videonauth all external repos have to be in sources.list.d folder as a separate file ... sources.list is for ubuntu only

Videonauth

5:44 PM

okies

cl-netbox

@Videonauth goodbye :) have a nice evening ! :)

Videonauth

@cl-netbox you too and thank you

Henry White Hat Hacker

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What do you mean by chat help?

Videonauth

i made this once to help someone but then he couldnt join because of reputation

but i keept it in case

Henry White Hat Hacker

Okay it will get shutdown for being inactive for 15 days or so.

Videonauth

6:02 PM

well if that hapens then it is like it is :)

Henry White Hat Hacker

The sanbox chatroom is moving too fast.

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Byte Commander

6:23 PM

@Videonauth You would just have to post a single message every two weeks to keep it alive...

Videonauth

yep :)

Byte Commander

I had such a room myself for a while, but one time I forgot to keep it warm and I never missed it either though... ;)

Videonauth

im only not sure if keeping a resource not used is a valid behavior

Byte Commander

Nah, nobody cares.

You're not disturbing anybody with that room.

Seth

@Videonauth a mod can overrule that restriction for you, just ask :)

Videonauth

6:26 PM

ok next time i know that :)

Henry White Hat Hacker

@Seth Can a mod block a mod?

Seth

not really.

Byte Commander

Could anybody help me with installing my Android-x86 VM? That question only got 5 views since yesterday, and two of them are from myself... unix.stackexchange.com/q/284241/103151

jokerdino

view+1

Byte Commander

:D

but what about answer+1?

user139252

6:32 PM

\o

Byte Commander

\o

jokerdino

@ByteCommander only netbox ever talks about kvm

user139252

I've not really used KVM, sorry @ByteCommander

Byte Commander

I spoke to him already. He helped me getting UEFI support in general (works with Ubuntu VM), but not for the Android-x86 one...

Henry White Hat Hacker

6:45 PM

Why do some questions get upvoted a lot but has no answers?

Videonauth

maybe because people have the same problem and or the question is good and clear

Henry White Hat Hacker

Is the if you do something good for me then I will do something good for you thing allow?

Videonauth

in which context ?

Henry White Hat Hacker

I just feel like asking questions.

Like @Videonauth example vote one of my question and I will vote one of yours questions is that allow can I get block for doing?

I miss paranoid panda.

Videonauth

this is heavily frowned upon as well as serial upvoting

Henry White Hat Hacker

6:52 PM

Okay so it is not allowed.

Videonauth

you should only up-vote something which is in case of a question, very clear to read and clear whats asked , and in case of an answer if it was helpful and throughout

Henry White Hat Hacker

I know that you don't need to echo.

LOL

Videonauth

but i had to say that otherwise @jokerdino hits me on the head with something unpleasantly heavy

jokerdino

:)

Videonauth

:)

jokerdino

6:55 PM

How is your eyes doing?

Videonauth

still hurting a bit and tearing all day long but beside that fine

jokerdino

that's like 'apart from all the bad things, I am doing good'.

Videonauth

yes indeed

installed 16.04 on my main machine yesterday and getting settled slowly

squashing errors

jokerdino

Monty Python - What have the romans ever done for us

►

it reminded me of that when you said that.

Videonauth

Spam song Monty Python

►

Henry White Hat Hacker

7:00 PM

JDino I got my deputy bage need to tell a mod. :)

jokerdino

ah good. keep up the good work

Henry White Hat Hacker

So many spams

Videonauth

spam spam spam spam spam ....

most annoyingly its itchy all time long and I'm not allowed to rub on it (my eye i mean)

Byte Commander

7:38 PM

@Seth You got a little brother!

Simply Seth

103 3

:D

Seth

I've always wanted a little brother.

Videonauth

can someone tell me why a 4 GB iso file doesnt fit on a 16 GB USB stick ???

Byte Commander

@Videonauth FAT!

Videonauth

mhmm this might be it

Masi

What can cause this one?

sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?

I have nothing running.

Byte Commander

7:50 PM

@Videonauth Format the stick as ext4 or NTFS or split the iso up into two files.

Masi

I cannot even start Software updater. I had R running but now it should be closed.

It has been now so 12 hours.

Ok, I do this askubuntu.com/a/102084/25388

Byte Commander

@Masi Probably the updater is still running. Run pgrep -a apt and pgrep -a update, that should show you most of the processes that could use it...

Masi

They do not help.

masi@masi:~$ sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
masi@masi:~$ sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
masi@masi:~$
masi@masi:~$ sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?

Byte Commander

No!

Of course not. It's a different lockfile.

Masi

pgrep -a apt
14963 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/sbin/aptd
15150 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/sbin/aptd
masi@masi:~$ pgrep -a update
3395 update-notifier

@ByteCommander Sorry, I did it. Can something be broken?

Byte Commander

7:53 PM

Also, deleting the lock file is strongly discouraged, because it will mess up stuff is there's really a different process running.

Masi

@ByteCommander What to do now?

Why is there such a thread first in Google?

Byte Commander

Can you do a reboot? That should be the simplest and most graceful way to terminate the background processes...

Else a killall update-notifier should be okay as well.

Masi

@ByteCommander Yes, it accepted it.

Byte Commander

But check the two pgreps again before.

Masi

@ByteCommander The problem came from upstart and runit: unix.stackexchange.com/q/284249/16920

@ByteCommander The bug/thing there caused the system the lock.

Byte Commander

7:56 PM

And I don't understand why you were so surprised about me saying that you should not delete lock files. Read the first sentence of the answer you linked:

> This should be used as last resort. If you use this carelessly you can end up with a broken system. Please try the other answers before doing this.

Masi

Such a stub answer should not be an accepted answer and highly voted.

Warnings do not work. You need to argumentate why.

Such a bolding only distracts.

Byte Commander

Ts...

Also, please rollback your edit to your question on U&L.

This has nothing to do with each other!

Seth

in British accent Someone delete a lockfile?

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Masi

@ByteCommander Ok. Done. I just know that the thing started the problem.

Byte Commander

7:59 PM

update-notifier launches automatically in background, this is normal behaviour. That you tried to run an apt command just in the same time is an unlucky coincidence.

Close duplicate question with almost the same title: askubuntu.com/q/775317/367990

@NathanOsman Who/what is Robin?

Nathan Osman

The bird.

American robin

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Byte Commander

Oh! I did not know that a Robin is actually a bird breed... Thought it was only a name.

Zacharee1

O_o

Videonauth

8:05 PM

mhmmmmmm

Masi

@terdon Do you have any idea about this unix.stackexchange.com/q/284249/16920 ? Should I run JdeBP's proposal. It is the only obstruction now with the other thread.

@ByteCommander I keep getting the lock after the reboot. Do you know how to proceed?

Byte Commander

18 mins ago, by Byte Commander

Else a killall update-notifier should be okay as well.

After that, check the two pgrep commands I gave you again.

Masi

@ByteCommander No does not help.

Videonauth

askubuntu.com/review/late-answers/567390 great this test system keeps keelhauling me over

-.-

Byte Commander

@Masi Check the pgreps and post them.

Masi

8:15 PM

@ByteCommander masi@masi:~$ killall update-notifier
masi@masi:~$ sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
libssl-dev is already the newest version (1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Setting up runit (2.1.2-3ubuntu1) ...
start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused

Edity

good morning :D

Videonauth

@Seth can you have a look at that, i did read the answer and it looked for me legit, i not read the comments below it

Byte Commander

@Masi Well, but this has nothing to do with the locks any more.

Masi

@ByteCommander Yes, but back to the original problem.

Byte Commander

Yes. But I can't help you with that specific one. You should probably try what the answer proposes...

Masi

8:19 PM

I do not really understand the main idea.

It is just a beginning, and not complete.

Edity

What is going on here?

Byte Commander

@Masi You run Ubuntu 16.04 which has both upstart and systemd as (whatever the proper name for that is, but they're responsible for managing services and the boot process somehow) installed.

Masi

@ByteCommander Can I delete either one? I should work.

Byte Commander

As the answer describes, the runit package tries to find out which (whatever) your system is using, but probably gets confused because two are installed and it picks the wrong one.

Edity

(aka Yakkety Yak)

Byte Commander

8:22 PM

Nope, I don't think you can uninstall one.

Masi

Any idea for the complete resolution. It seems to be a bug.

Byte Commander

But not 100% sure... (?)

Edity

post it in launchpad

Byte Commander

If it's a bug, file a bug report.

Edity

^

I'm mad.

Every time

I join it's like I dropped a silent bomb

Jacob Vlijm

8:36 PM

@anyofthemods could someone remove the dreadfully ugly threads of comments here: askubuntu.com/questions/775025/… about everything that is useful (or not) is said and done. @jokerdino ?

...Sorry I also took part in it...

Byte Commander

Close as EOL: askubuntu.com/q/774827/367990

TheXed

@Edity your silence is imperative at the moment...

Edity

o

TheXed

Okay I lie, just joking, whats up?

Masi

@ByteCommander Bug report here bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/runit/+bug/1584214

Edity

8:40 PM

the plane

Zacharee1

MS keeps sneaking in optional updates that try to install the Windows 10 upgrade app

Videonauth

@Zacharee1 im happily now a fulltime linux user and not seeing those sneaky updates anymore :D

TheXed

@Edity that is a good place for it...as opposed to the side of a mountain range...

Edity

lol

Byte Commander

@Masi Nice. Now you have to wait for reactions. I can'T do anything about that.

Edity

8:41 PM

i am watching LoL esports

TheXed

@Zacharee1 just do it..you will only regret it.

Byte Commander

Win 10 might be nice for the standard dummy-user, but it's horrible to administrate IMHO... :-/

Edity

yep

TheXed

@ByteCommander I like it a lot better then Windows 8.x

Edity

4 min rule- don't ping me

TheXed

8:44 PM

@Edity what is the 4 min rule?

Edity

not to ping me...

TheXed

@Edity that is not a rule, that is just demanding people not to ping you...

Edity

lol

TheXed

@Edity but I am not one who answers demands lightly...

Edity

ok its annoying

TheXed

8:46 PM

@Edity what? getting pinged?

Byte Commander

@Edity probably the only way to escape this is to leave the room or turn your speakers off! :D :D

Edity

constantly ping

Byte Commander

Or I leave. It's late... See you! o/

Edity

:c

TheXed

@Edity well that is the price of playing here...

Edity

8:46 PM

bye

TheXed

@ByteCommander well good bye then.

Byte Commander

(and don't take that little joking seriously ;) )

TheXed

@Edity does disabling desktop notifications kill the pings?

Edity

spam-ping me!

TheXed

@Edity haven't I already been?

Edity

8:48 PM

lol you have been

TheXed

@Edity and you can't really spam, there is only so many messages that you can send in a certain time frame.

Edity

@TheXed

TheXed

@Edity however I don't really remember what it is.

Edity

@TheXed

lol

TheXed

@Edity?

Henry White Hat Hacker

8:52 PM

o/

Edity

@TheXed?

Henry White Hat Hacker

Stop pinging.

Edity

@TheXed

TheXed

@Edity?

Edity

lol PING WAR

Henry White Hat Hacker

8:53 PM

someone ping me.

no don't

Edity

@HenryWhiteHatHacker

you mad?

Henry White Hat Hacker

I said don't!

TheXed

Lets not provoke the mods...

Edity

lol

k

TheXed

They carry ban sticks...

Edity

8:55 PM

O_O

Henry White Hat Hacker

I got a ban twice.

Edity

its 10 second ban noodle

TheXed

It's true...and it is funny...if it isn't you...

@Edity no, they can ban you indefinitely...

Edity

I ate 10 second ban noodles only once.

it tastes "banny"

Henry White Hat Hacker

The mods can delete your account also.

TheXed

8:58 PM

@Edity lol, go make yourself useful and go answer some questions or something...

Edity

O_O

I don't post questions or answers

Henry White Hat Hacker

Or flag

or edit

Edity

cuz mods can use my post to make themselves useful

TheXed

@HenryWhiteHatHacker I think I would literally cry if my account got deleted.... 6 years of hard work...

Henry White Hat Hacker

Bow down it's Henry!

TheXed

8:59 PM

@Edity then what do you do here...besides ping me?

Edity

Edity ♦

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