Ask Ubuntu General Room

Thomas W.

6:01 PM

:P

yes, i'm insane, so... meh

sometimes my insanity makes others laugh :)

i think it's one of the reasons the girlfriend loves me xD

hbdgaf

hopefully she finds it cute... otherwise you're in for a serious problem later -.-

Thomas W.

I think she does :P

she;s said before my randomness is cute so... shrugs

hbdgaf

Well that's a good thing then.

Thomas W.

indeed.

although fwiw the show 'Supernatural' has not been that good an influence :P

hbdgaf

I really don't understand how we got like a thousand seasons of that show and only one of firefly.

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Thomas W.

6:07 PM

lol

user136984

@hbdgaf Where's the apostrophe in "whats"?! It should be "What's"!!!

user136984

>:)

hbdgaf

I didn't make that one.

Thomas W.

@Toroidal set.mode.GrammarNazi(false);

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Seth

Well firefly's don't life that long anyway..

2

(bad pun)

Thomas W.

6:08 PM

LOL

Seth

err, I guess it should be fireflies.. but that makes it less funny.

terdon

@hbdgaf YES. One of the great questions of the universe. Badly written crap gets >10 seasons and something that's actually fun and with a smidgeon of quality gets cut.

@Seth Should also be live but never mind :P

hbdgaf

@terdon I work it in every time I see a supernatural reference.

which honestly isn't that often... so winning

user136984

@NathanOsman: In my debian directory for my packaging can I delete the "README.source" file because I don't think that I have any need for it and it says to either modify or delete it in the file?

Nathan Osman

Sure, delete it.

Seth

6:15 PM

@terdon agh, yes, so it should.

but that still makes it funnier xD

Thomas W.

@Toroidal Don't forget to make sure your package is lintian clean if you want it to comply to packaging standards

i have a few packages that aren't lintian clean but they need to be made lintian clean eventually xD

user136984

@ThomasW. What does "lintian clean" mean?

Thomas W.

@Toroidal lintian.debian.org <-- relevant

explains in a nutshell what Lintian does, and to abide by Ubuntu packaging policy the package should be lintian clean.

(as well as to conform to Debian policy xD)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Problems with Samsung firmware

So trying to install Ubuntu on Samsung laptops doesn't brick the computer anymore but the hardware still has issues with basic functions like closing the lid to put the computer to sleep/suspend and otherwise. Had anyone else encountered problems like this?

user136984

@ThomasW. Ok, how do I get it then and use it?

Seth

6:25 PM

@ThomasW. How do you get around lintian demanding a manpage? Not all software has one nor needs one.

user136984

I read that link but the package link it gives gets me lots of packages with no obvious way to download.

Thomas W.

@Seth IIRC there's a way to override it

@Toroidal part of the package building tools if you installed ubuntu dev tools

Seth

@ThomasW. ah

Thomas W.

@Seth there's Lintian overrides for many things, i just don't know em all by heart :P

user136984

@ThomasW. Ah, ok, yes I did, so do I just type in lintian in Terminal or something? :)

Thomas W.

6:26 PM

@Toroidal man lintian

lintian foo.dsc <-- uses the .dsc to determine package for example

which you get when you build packages :P

you could do the same with a .changes file, but it helps to read through the lintian manpage

and through the debuild -S output

since it runs lintian on the source package

Seth

A vorlon!

user136984

@ThomasW. So do you use this once you have built the package into a deb file, or is that not how it works? :)

Thomas W.

@Toroidal it's run when you build the thing - it then tells you what you've failed with in the package. you can use it on the .dsc BEFORE uploading a source package too

@Toroidal for example: lintian.debian.org/maintainer/pmatthaei@debian.org.html#znc

@Toroidal a lot of lintian things are useful to look at. and the debian site is decent at explaining each warning/error/informational thing

user136984

@ThomasW. I'm not fully clear on how to actually build it...

Thomas W.

@Toroidal what do you have so far

user136984

6:32 PM

I have create a debian directory with dh_make.

user136984

And I think that I have finished editing all the files.

user136984

Except I am not sure what to do with the file called "README.source".

Thomas W.

@Toroidal if you don't need it remove it

@Toroidal which we said

@Toroidal stupid question but have you looked at how other packages are to get an idea of what you might need?

i mean, the needs will vary from package to package

user136984

@ThomasW. No, I wasn't really sure where I could get a package like that to look at...

user136984

As I am very new to packaging.

user136984

6:37 PM

I probably don't really understand most of it.

hbdgaf

Not sure how that was supposed to turn out, but it was delicious.

Thomas W.

@Toroidal what's the software

@Toroidal what's the use case? does it have an open source license you can package with? is it a compiled binary, a library, etc.?

user136984

@ThomasW. You mean the software that I have made?

Thomas W.

that you're packaging

user136984

Ok, yes, it's a utility made in bash.

Thomas W.

6:38 PM

@Toroidal so it's a bash utility script

user136984

It's license is GPLV3.

user136984

@ThomasW. I guess so.

Thomas W.

so basically you need to make a package that installs it somewhere. OK, I can get that, i think i had a package to install a bash script a while ago xD

user136984

@ThomasW. Do I not just put the bash script in a deb?

user136984

And get it to put it in the right place?

user136984

6:40 PM

Or am I misunderstanding?

Thomas W.

No, you're pretty spot on. so you have the debian/ folder done, I think, what are you really needing info on next?

basically, how to force it to build it into .deb files?

or are you intending on putting it in a PPA?

user136984

Well, first I need to just check that I have edited all the files right, and then I need to know what I do after that to build the package.

user136984

I am planning to somehow upload it to my PPA.

Nathan Osman

debuild is the command you're looking for.

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman no, debuild -S

if they want it to be in a PPA

Nathan Osman

6:43 PM

In particular, you need debuild -S to upload a source package.

user136984

So do I get it to do that on my debian folder?

Nathan Osman

@ThomasW. Gimme a chance to type!

user136984

Or...?

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman type faster or use all one line instead

Nathan Osman

Nope, one directory up.

Thomas W.

6:43 PM

@Toroidal cd a directory up, then run debuild -S

it'll whine if things aren't ready

Nathan Osman

@ThomasW. Must. Type. Faster.

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman *begins a ritual to enforce faster typing, and starts chanting in Latin under the lunar eclipse*

user136984

@ThomasW. So I am doing it in the directory that contains the debian and orig file?

user136984

Or a directory up from that?

Thomas W.

@Toroidal um, what?

Nathan Osman

6:44 PM

Wait.

Thomas W.

@Toroidal did you extract the source tarball?

user136984

@ThomasW. Which source tarball?

user136984

Is that like a furball?

Thomas W.

...

Nathan Osman

It should look like this:

- package_0.1.orig.tar.gz
- package-0.1/
    - debian/

Thomas W.

6:45 PM

@NathanOsman you want to help them or should I smack them with the rubber chicken i stole from Tavern On the Meta

Nathan Osman

You want to be in the package-0.1 directory.

@ThomasW. Help whom?

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman Toroidal :P

Nathan Osman

I'm trying to.

Thomas W.

heh

hbdgaf

when you're done @NathanOsman - lmk if you have any thoughts on my older ping about the sudoku solve having should have solved something.

user136984

6:47 PM

.
├── anti-sr-1.0
│   ├── anti-sr
│   └── debian
│   ├── changelog
│   ├── changelog~
│   ├── compat
│   ├── control
│   ├── copyright
│   ├── docs
│   ├── rules
│   └── source
│   └── format
└── anti-sr_1.0.orig.tar.xz

Nathan Osman

No, no, no.

The control, etc. files go inside the debian/ directory.

And you probably don't want the ~ file (I'm guessing gedit did that to you :P).

user136984

@NathanOsman Sorry, tree gave that and this is what it is meant to look like:

Nathan Osman

Yeah, I see that :P

user136984

Nathan Osman

It didn't work when I pasted it either :P

user136984

6:50 PM

:D

Nathan Osman

Yeah, that's correct then.

user136984

I will remove the ~...

user136984

Well, not just that, but the actual file too! :P :D

Thomas W.

and the wheel of blame says my problems with Ask Ubuntu today are the fault of...

C#

user136984

@NathanOsman: In that changelog file it says * Initial release (Closes: #nnnn) <nnnn is the bug number of your ITP>

user136984

6:52 PM

Can I remove some of that?

Thomas W.

@Toroidal Keep Initial Release

Nathan Osman

@Toroidal You can remove the ITP line.

user136984

And what was it again that I do about the 'unstable' thing?

Thomas W.

@Toroidal you can remove the ITP part

Nathan Osman

You currently don't have an ITP number.

Thomas W.

6:53 PM

@Toroidal the target Ubuntu version

user136984

@NathanOsman What is an ITP number?

Thomas W.

@Toroidal i.e. lucid/precise/utopic/vivid

Nathan Osman

(You would have an ITP number if you were intending to get the package imported into Debian.)

user136984

@ThomasW. So what about if I want to do one for all of them?

Thomas W.

@Toroidal Debian Bug Number for an Intent To Package bug - for Ubuntu it's a needs-packaging bug but in either case you don't have one if you're going to target a PPA

Nathan Osman

6:54 PM

You can't.

user136984

Do I just create a new package for all of them?

Nathan Osman

Yes.

Thomas W.

@Toroidal individual source packages for each version

@Toroidal with a version string that has +release0

@Toroidal or -ubuntu14.04.0, etc. whatever you choose

user136984

So I have to have a debian folder and everything for each of them?

Nathan Osman

Takes @ThomasW's keyboard and removes the 'e' and 's' to slow him down.

Thomas W.

6:54 PM

@Toroidal lemme show you my PPAs that have that kind of things

@NathanOsman *is using a Neural Relay to type*

user136984

@ThomasW. Ok

Nathan Osman

Launchpad has a set of guidelines for package version numbers when uploading to a PPA.

Thomas W.

NGINX Stable Staging PPA | ZNC Stable PPA

@NathanOsman actually they don't have a set of rules, i just follow the ubuntu security team guidelines xD

Nathan Osman

Actually, they do. One sec.

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman i've asked and they don't have a set guideline

Nathan Osman

6:56 PM

help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman they don't have the rule, they have the guideline, but it's not necessary in all cases

Nathan Osman

That's what I said:

1 min ago, by Nathan Osman

Launchpad has a set of guidelines for package version numbers when uploading to a PPA.

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman and note the version parts are NOT necessary if the package doesn't exist in Ubuntu

@Toroidal those two PPAs are different ideas of the same thing

Nathan Osman

But if it ever is included down the road (as a backport), using the proper format will make things easier.

Thomas W.

@Toroidal in the case of the NGINX Stable Staging PPA (and the NGINX team's stable PPA, fed from the staging PPA there), it's the same debian/ folder, the changelog version strings change as do the targetted changelog version (precise, trusty, etc. depending on which release it's building for)

in the case of the ZNC Stable PPA, I have two packaging branches set up - one for Precise, the other for all later releases

(because of g++ requirements)

@NathanOsman true, although if he uses -0 or -0.1, etc. for his PPA package rev numbers (they are valid!) then they'll always supersede later

Nathan Osman

6:59 PM

Couldn't you backport the necessary GCC version to Precise?

user136984

@ThomasW. So should each package actually be called also the version of Ubuntu that they are for?

user136984

Or is that not needed?

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman already exists, in ubuntu-toolchain-r/test

Nathan Osman

...that and launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+archive/ubuntu/gcc4.7-precise

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman easier to pull in from the toolchain PPA as a dependency - the separate packaging tree is for the CXX var declaration

which is needed

Nathan Osman

7:00 PM

@Toroidal It's recommended (by me). It will show up on the PPA page and is generally helpful.

user136984

@NathanOsman So the only difference between them is the package name and the string in the changelog file?

user136984

If so, which versions of Ubuntu do you recommend that I should make it for?

Nathan Osman

Unless you require modifications to source code between releases, yes.

My current set of targets is Trusty (current LTS), Utopic (most recent stable release), and Vivid (current dev. target).

Thomas W.

i also target Precise for my stuff because I have older systems that need some packages

paste.ubuntu.com/10708554

^ nginx mainline directory ls output twice to show how i separate my nginx packagings

yes i duplicate it 4 times :P

Nathan Osman

^--- similar to what I do

Thomas W.

7:03 PM

ignore the debian/ folder outside the nginx-#### folder

it's because i salvaged a 'base' debian/ folder from the previous PPA versions, and added it to the latest nginx tarballs xD

user136984

@NathanOsman And in the changelog file are all those in lower case?

Nathan Osman

Yes.

Thomas W.

nginx (1.6.2-5+vivid0) vivid; urgency=medium

  * Resync with Debian
 -- Thomas Ward <teward@ubuntu.com>   Sat, 13 Dec 2014 20:25:00 -0500

nginx (1.6.2-5+utopic0) utopic; urgency=medium

  * Resync with Debian
 -- Thomas Ward <teward@ubuntu.com>   Sat, 13 Dec 2014 20:25:00 -0500

nginx (1.6.2-5+trusty0) trusty; urgency=medium

  * Resync with Debian
 -- Thomas Ward <teward@ubuntu.com>   Sat, 13 Dec 2014 20:25:00 -0500

same version, different uploads

you should target the lowercase name - the PPAs are sometimes stupid and don't like caps

so vivid, utopic, trusty, etc.

@NathanOsman the only reason I diverge from the recommended with regard to nginx is the way the control file handles versioning

Nathan Osman

Example from my CMake backports:

Thomas W.

including ~ppa# per the suggested formatting explodes it

Nathan Osman

7:06 PM

cmake (3.2.1-1ppa2~trusty1) trusty; urgency=medium

  * Added JsonCpp to build dependencies.

 -- Nathan Osman <nathan@quickmediasolutions.com>  Wed, 11 Mar 2015 19:38:17 -0700

Thomas W.

user136984

@ThomasW. 1.6.2-5+vivid0 so is that the version in your package name too?

Thomas W.

^ screenshot of my version stringing for my ZNC fork

@Toroidal those're changelog entries there

user136984

Yes, but what do you call your packages?

Thomas W.

(verbatim from launchpad.net/~teward/+archive/ubuntu/nginx-stable-testing/…)

@Toroidal what do yuo mean

user136984

7:08 PM

@ThomasW. Or are the names always the same and just the changelog different?

Thomas W.

(E:Unclear)

@Toroidal the source package name is identical - always 'nginx'

the version strings are different

so are the targeted release name in the changelog

user136984

So do you just have different folders for each one on your machine?

Thomas W.

@Toroidal correct, one for precise, one for trusty, one for utopic, etc.

i do the same for the ZNC Stable PPA, and the other PPAs I have with multiple OS targets for the same piece of software

even better case in point

launchpad.net/~teward/+archive/ubuntu/wireshark

my wireshark backports ppa - the package name is always 'wireshark', but the changelog targets different releases with each changelog

which is how they differ - there's folders for precise, trusty, etc. on my computer each holding a copy of the source package. in each folder, i change the debian/changelog to be different by version (AND by the target version)

and build/upload multiple source packages to the PPAs

i probably need to update the wireshark one too xD

heheh, yep

Seth

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I just ran into this again:

Feb 26 at 23:09, by Chan-Ho Suh

Seth principle: "OP will respond back with (half the info requested) / (info given in your comment/answer)"

It's sooooo annoying.

Rinzwind

@Seth your backslash is not there: askubuntu.com/questions/603242/…

Seth

7:20 PM

fixed @Rinzwind

Rinzwind

:)

TheX

OMG its so fast

Seth

What did you change @TheX?

TheX

Just a sec...

Going to upload a video to youtube,,,

Maybe if I ever get it off my phone

Why does it say my home partition is an extended partiton?

Did I screw something up?

@Seth or is that normal?

Thomas W.

@TheX lookit in gparted

TheX

7:34 PM

I can't... downloading updates...

Thomas W.

@TheX the extended partition is just a type of partition that isn't primary - partitions inside it are logical instead of physical. to that end you have an ext4 partition inside the extended partition that is your /home directory likely

not uncommon

(uncommon with MY installations as I do manual partitioning, but meh)

TheX

@ThomasW. I did a manuail partitioning...

I was wondering if I accidentally hit extended instead of primary...

Thomas W.

@TheX it wouldn't show as such - it's likely the system suggested it and you just went along with it

in the GUI it does that

(so it would create the logical partition and the extended partition to fit it in)

TheX

strange...

but what do I know...

Thomas W.

i typically prepartition the disk before the install

TheX

7:36 PM

@ThomasW. I did. because I didn't want a swap partition...

Thomas W.

via gparted BEFORE hitting "Install" and then just define the mount points and filesystem type

@TheX you're not letting me talk for the sake of talking are you

fine

*sits there glaring at @TheX*

TheX

@ThomasW. no glaring necessary... I am just confuzzled...

Seth

My /home is within an extended partition.

Thomas W.

@TheX there's nothing wrong with it, don't worry about it

see? @Seth is in a similar state

Nathan Osman

Let me see what I did...

TheX

7:39 PM

Okay...just trying to make sure I didn't blow up my Ubuntu....

With a crappy install...

Seth

No you should be fine :)

Thomas W.

@TheX There's nothing abnormal here

Nathan Osman

Thomas W.

@TheX So dont' worry about it

TheX

Okay cool, thanks.

Nathan Osman

7:40 PM

I've got /home, /var, and /tmp on separate partitions.

(And, of course, /boot.)

All but /boot is in the extended partition.

Seth

Man, I wish I had that luxury.

Nathan Osman

Luxury? Separate partitions?

Seth

My disk isn't really big enough at the moment. As it is I keep almost running out of space.

Nathan Osman

Mine is only 160 GB. Yours is smaller?

TheX

mine is only 128, I win...

Nathan Osman

7:44 PM

(Though I must confess I've had to resize partitions a couple of times. /var tends to get carried away once you create a few chroots.)

@TheX But you probably don't need half the packages I do.

TheX

I should do my taxes... Uncle Sam and his Buddy, IRS will be wanting their money soon,,,

Seth

@NathanOsman No, I have 500 but it's split across 3 OS's.

Nathan Osman

Ah. Totally understand then.

Seth

I might be able to shrink Windows down a bit more but not much..

Nathan Osman

Windows is kinda greedy. A 4 GB Linux installation is very reasonable. A 4 GB Windows installation is impossible.

TheX

7:46 PM

Windows 10 is supposed to have a smaller foot print no?

Nathan Osman

My Windows Server on Amazon came with a completely clean install of Windows Server 2012 and it used up 21 GB of my 30 GB disk, leaving me with not much space for actual stuff. I was able to clean it up a bit by removing some unnecessary services, but still...

@TheX Judging by past precedent...

Thomas W.

@TheX judging by dev preview, no

TheX

@ThomasW. we could say that it is going to blow up many computers based on the Dev Preview too...

Thomas W.

@TheX true. (I have a windows VM that worked xD)

Seth

@NathanOsman Wow.

@TheX My Windows 10 install is taking up about 10GB right now.

Plus a few applications.

Nathan Osman

7:52 PM

I've got a 400 GB partition for Windows on my 2 TB disk (which is not an SSD).

TheX

I can't check mine right now because I interrupted the boot process last time the PC started...

Seth

Actually.. that's not quite accurate.

On second inspection just the Windows folder is taking up 11GB and counting..

oh I see.

I read it wrong.

Nathan Osman

10 GB did seem a bit small :P

Seth

The whole partition is taking up 37GB. That's Windows 10 with a few apps installed.

TheX

Because 11 is so much more @NathanOsman :=P

Seth

7:54 PM

@NathanOsman That's what I thought :p

@TheX That's just the Windows folder though..

TheX

@Seth I see...

I keep filling my hard drive with games, even though I hardly ever play them...

I think maybe just out of hope?

Seth

by comparison..

My entire Ubuntu install takes up 17GB including all my installed apps.. (a lot more than I have installed in Windows 10)

(without /home)

user136984

Does anyone know what this could mean? :)

user136984

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Q: Ubuntu says Chrome closed, but it is still open

My computer was literally asking for it, so I crashed it by opening loads of web pages and programs at the same time, so I basically was using as much CPU and RAM as possible. Then when the machine finally crashed, and my machine said it had had enough, it was suddenly reported that Chrome had c...

google-chrome crash

Nathan Osman

Let me check mine...

Seth

7:58 PM

That's with /var taking up 1.3GB too :P

Plus multiple kernels..

Thomas W.

@Toroidal delayed close, zombie process perhaps, or a hung closing process

@Toroidal oh probably a crashed thread

Nathan Osman

After totaling the used space on everything but /home, I get 24.97 GB.

Adding /home would skew the results since it's full of virtual machine disk images.

Unrelated: I wish sbuild would leave the source tree intact for a failed build so I can figure out what went wrong without guessing from the error message.

user136984

@ThomasW. I wish though that there was some utility which could crash it so that I wouldn't have to when it starts asking, and when it wants me to stop, so that the utility can just stop the crash without me needing to close loads of stuff.

Nathan Osman

Well now:

$purge_build_directory = 'never'

That's what I was looking for.

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman it can - if you specify a different build directory

@NathanOsman also this

althoug hit uses space in /tmp by default

Nathan Osman

8:06 PM

That won't work. I only have about 2.5 GB in there.

user136984

Anyway, why does it need me to crash it? Why can't it just do that by itself?

Thomas W.

@Toroidal ... what?

@Toroidal Your message says it did crash - whether it's the executable or one of the threads, irrelevant, it's already crashed.

user136984

@ThomasW. Yes, I know, but why couldn't it have taken care of the crashing so that I wouldn't have to and this would not have happened?

Thomas W.

@Seth ping

@Seth askubuntu.com/a/603255/10616 <-- burn the answer - its a security risk there as is

Nathan Osman

@ThomasW. It's using /var/lib/sbuild/build/* by default for me.

Thomas W.

8:13 PM

huh, the more you know :P

it uses /tmp/sbuild in mine

@NathanOsman the wheel of blame says its Jin's fault

Nathan Osman

What do you have in ~/.sbuildrc?

Thomas W.

I/O error

i need to redo it anyways xD

user136984

@ThomasW. Why does it need me to crash it anyway? Is there no other way that it can generate loads of random bytes to make a PGP key pair?

Nathan Osman

If you do that often, there's this.

Thomas W.

@Toroidal what are you even asking

you're not making sense with your questions

user136984

8:20 PM

How?

Thomas W.

@Toroidal a program can crash for any of a billion reasons - it's not saying you have to crash it but judging by the fact that apport can't generate an analysis because you have no available memory i think the issue is one that chrome crashed because out of memory

or at least the individual process/thread that did die

but you are confusing that with the system crashing it in order to free up memory, your connection of visual events with actual happenings is coincidental and not relevant

TheX

Ubuntu Super fast boot

►

Seth

So I'm messing around with the descent 1 demo.. I found 2 invulnerabilities and 1 cloak right in front of the red door. Now I'm kind of scared lol.

yup, opened the door and got hit with a concussion missile :P

hbdgaf

8:44 PM

@Seth here's another blast from the past youtube.com/watch?v=aLEdGxOaaQk

TheX

I miss 8-16 bit generation...

hbdgaf

I don't know why there aren't more remakes now that UE4 is free-ish...

@Mateo said he wanted castlevania

Mateo

yeah, more 2d side scrolling item/power pickup games

hbdgaf

I liked df2 jedi knight because i could edit the weapons/force powers (the cog files) and make them all weird/screwy

TheX

9:03 PM

I am not sure Beyond Earth is working right...

This is all I see

hbdgaf

sounds like someone's opengl isn't initializing properly

TheX

I suspect it might be that or graphics drivers...

Nathan Osman

Either that, or it's a really boring game :P

TheX

@NathanOsman lol...

hbdgaf

i still have this on my come to linux plz wishlist: youtube.com/watch?v=Bc25DPDku7w

Nathan Osman

9:08 PM

Wow... CMake requires a ridiculous amount of disk space to build.

Like more than 2 GB.

TheX

The question is how do I fix it...

Nathan Osman

I have no idea what to make of this:

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman try 15 for ue4...

Mateo

and all the ram you can feed it ;)

Nathan Osman

I remember building Qt on Windows with debug information often took up 6+ GB but 15 is just obscene.

@Mateo ...and all the cores on your CPU.

hbdgaf

9:13 PM

yes. always needs more ram and:

user136984

@NathanOsman So if I have a different one for each version, so if I do one for Vivid, Uptopic and Trusty, at what level will those folders be? Will each one have its own project folder and orig file? Or will each one have it's own source code and then debian file? So at what level do I create these? Could you just show me a usually tree that would exist if I had a different folder for each Ubuntu version? :)

hbdgaf

you don't create a ton of distro specific versions. whatever you're building - specifically since it's just a packaged bash script - should work across versions. you just change the build target, cross your fingers, and try it.

Thomas W.

so i take it none of our mods are around

so therefore the flags queue isn't being handled

hbdgaf

@ThomasW. becomes honorary mod as the lord of time could just go get that privilege and come back.

Thomas W.

@hbdgaf lol

user136984

9:24 PM

In my debian folder I have a file called docs, but it is completely blank, should I delete it?

user136984

Well, as it's blank, I guess I can delete it, and if I need it later then I can just create a new blank file called "docs"! :D

Thomas W.

whoo, i have my name on github master xD

github.com/znc/znc/blob/master/NOTICE#L53

Seth

@terdon still around?

Any change you know the answer to this?

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user136984

What do Ubuntu version numbers mean for packages? So for instance what do all the numbers indicate in this version number "52.1-3"? :)

Seth

sorry @ThomasW., forgot to get back to you on that answer..

The link loads a valid and fine looking sources.list file..

TheX

9:39 PM

lol I broke Xorg, how can I fix it?

Nevermind I fixed it.

Thomas W.

@Seth I think it'd be better for them to post the ACTUAL file rather than a longass convoluted non-user-readable link

hbdgaf

@TheX - I laughed a little. "How do I fix... no wait, it's not really broken"

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user136984

@NathanOsman: Which source directory does it mean here? And is this all I do to build, and then how do I sign it and upload it to my PPA?

TheX

9:57 PM

@hbdgaf no it really was broken, and I really did fix it :=P

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