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Weird. This guy had come into this room asking for help with his question and then deleted it: askubuntu.com/questions/896900/…

Android Dev

LOL! --^

@ByteCommander will that work?

@AndroidDev Is he saying he's installing Ubuntu in virtual machine to dip his toes in water before installing for real on a new partition?

12:41 AM

Any Launchpad people around?

I've got a misbehaving PPA.

well I have a button that won't behave at all

I'm gonna try one more thing and then ask a question there.

Heh!

I fixed it.

Wow, what a nice long backlog for the arm builders. But no matter. It's the amd64 one that I need soon.

1:18 AM

weird

my ModInstaller app is installed in 49 devices, while ModControl is on 95

ModInstaller is needed for ModControl to work

Android Dev

You're missing my point. The fact that an OS can run inside of a VM does not mean that it will run well on the actual hardware. — Android Dev 36 secs ago

1:38 AM

Getting a new standing desk. Finally forcing me to clean the old one lol

@NathanOsman What'd you think of overload?

I'm obviously extremely biased because I had so much fun playing the originals..

There wasn't much to the demo but from what I did play, the graphics were nice.

It takes a bit of time to get used to six axes of freedom.

(which you can still download the demos for, btw. Descent demo has 7 levels and the Descent II demo has 3)

Oh cool :D

@NathanOsman there are 5 levels, according to the files I have?

It's totally not finished yet though, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's not really much.

@NathanOsman yeah that's the cool part. Reaaaaally easy to get yourself dizzy though.

@Seth Congrats on the new desk... I was thinking of getting something for the old laptop and old tv and old bluray player that would be setup as some kind of file server and mostly closed up as it operated 24/7. Sort of like a book shelf with sliding doors or something... haven't really figured out what it would look like yet.

1:42 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Thanks! It's not anything special. $50 used off craigslist. But it's better than what I have :)

maybe I'll share a setup pic once it's all finished.. Chiropractor got upset with me about my current setup lol.

@Seth 50 bucks sounds great... transportation expenses are usually more. Yeah my back kind of gets sore too.. reclining couch with laptop on Ikea coffee table :p

@WinEunuuchs2Unix That's what got me. Been so sick I've spent days on the couch. Never quite sitting up, never quite lying down.

mouse on couch cushion is slowing creating carpal tunnel syndrome I think :(

Caused me a LOT of problems.

Lots of people sick at work too... world wide flu

1:45 AM

Guess what got an update...

not me

lol

@NathanOsman chrome?

eww

:(

Not Chrome, my chat script.

oh.. oops haha :P

And now I'm sad because you don't like the picture :P

1:47 AM

<-- hates fancy emoji

It's just an image.

I'm an ASCII emoji person.

The Google emoji aren't too bad. I think what makes me dislike them so much is the non uniform look they have across platforms.

Mine are using EmojiOne.

what's a chat script? I notice AU html puts in $lt; for < and $amp; for & in my latest project of scanning answers in AU for bash scripts and upvotes. Interesting AU answers contain "GPS tracking" tags... not sure what that's all about yet.

^^^ Hyper Text Markup Language is bizarre

Yup, HTML is a hodgepodge of standards mixed together in a non-coherent way.

The fact that it ever works, is, in itself, a small miracle.

1:55 AM

Well thank google for little "Inspect" gear.

um... cog on gear? ^^^

nvm I mean "Right Click" ^^^

Although inspecting this chat room with chrome doesn't format very well.

But for most websites it's good :)

raises eyebrow

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Well duh this is a chatroom lol

it doesn't like that at all

I just started dabbling in HTML for my latest project to compare bash scripts on my disk to AU answers which are in HTML.

Of course I've heard about Hyper Text Markup Language for decades, never really looked at it too closely until now.

Using bash to search through HTML matching up strings seems daunting right now. But like most projects once you get started and knocking off challenges one by one it will get better :)

@WinEunuuchs2Unix This sounds a lot like trying to do something with HTML and Regex

What is "Regex" that's been nagging me for a couple of days now.

Regular expression

A regular expression, regex or regexp (sometimes called a rational expression) is, in theoretical computer science and formal language theory, a sequence of characters that define a search pattern. Usually this pattern is then used by string searching algorithms for "find" or "find and replace" operations on strings. The concept arose in the 1950s when the American mathematician Stephen Cole Kleene formalized the description of a regular language. The concept came into common use with Unix text-processing utilities. Today, different syntaxes for writing regular expressions exist, one being the...

But this is also relevant and important too

2:07 AM

Sounds similar to the mayhem I'm entering. I'll be searching for "<div class="vote">" followed by "<span itemprop="upvoteCount" class="vote-count-post ">3</span>" but also searching for "#!/bin/bash" + 2 matching lines all at the same time whilst be mindful of being efficient in string comparisons and not getting lost while looking for multiple "things" at once. Like I said it seems daunting now, but it will work out like all other programming problems.

except Regex parsing of HTML in order.

That will summon that which is evil.

haha you had to throw "evil" into the equation :p

actually Ididn't this time

just read the relevant and important link under the onebox

that came LONG before me.

OK you didn't create evil you quoted it ;)

in this case yes

iin other cases, I created it.

and in yet other cases I've squished it

2:10 AM

Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, evil is in the mind of the good definition.

as a lame example republicans are evil to democrats and vice versa.

I've explored the concepts of good and evil for decades now.

It just leads to drinking beer :p

Q: Ubuntu wifi connected but not working correctly

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I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my old Lenovo G50-80. I've been having issues with getting the wifi to work from the start. During install I gave it a network cable and then after the install I couldn't get the wifi working at first so I configured it manually somehow in Unity (something lik...

2:49 AM

@Serg you need a space here "things.But" in your answer: askubuntu.com/questions/896935/… but I didn't want my avatar recorded as editing your answer so didn't fix it myself.

3:06 AM

I need to sleep, brain

Stop speeding up my metabolism

rip

3:46 AM

^^^ using rip (rest in peace for dead people) as a substitute for sleep well is kind of spooky!

ur kind of spoopi

4:31 AM

I learned a new word today: moribund - "at the point of death".

Symantec responds to Google. "This action was unexpected, and we believe Google's blog post was irresponsible" https://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/symantec-backs-its-ca

Tweeted by mikko on March 24, 2017 at 11:39 AM

@Seth #worksforme

I couldn't get it to fail on my Android phone.

6:30 AM

@Zacharee1 what do you call an interest of 3.14 % ? A pi-rate

( came up with this one myself just now after listening alestorm for like an hour )

6:59 AM

What is this... play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amble43.MemeBroker

7:44 AM

@Serg still awake? (You shouldn't be, but then could you do me this favour when waking up) Could you try a stupid empty script, importing Pandas (import pandas). It looks great, but on my system it take 0.53 sec. to only import!?

8:09 AM

@JacobVlijm python3 or python2 ?

@Serg python3

OK, will have to install first

@Serg ah, sorry thought it was default. Apparently I installed it some time.

Yeah, wasn't installed on my 16.04

@NathanOsman Having trouble sleeping again ? Also, that regular expression though @_@

$ time python3 -c 'import pandas'
    0m02.12s real     0m01.01s user     0m00.12s system

@JacobVlijm slow indeed ( and I have SSD here )

@Serg WOW. It looks really awesome, but that slow import :( In the meantime, I found a few more mentions of it.

I guess I won't be using it in loops when the script has to be called over and over again on a slow start.

8:16 AM

There's probably a reason why it's so slow, and there might be ways to optimize it

I doubt it went unnoticed by other people

Yeah, Trying to find it, there are indeed several posts on SO, but no solution.

It seems to have more performance issues: penandpants.com/2014/09/05/…

> There’s actually nothing to see because array indexing goes straight into the NumPy C extensions

That makes sense. If NumPy is done on C level, you can't beat that in performance department.

@Serg Yeah, if only the import wasn't so slow, it would be very interesting.

@JacobVlijm try doing from pandas import ... , some kind of function

@Serg Tried that too, same result.

8:27 AM

$ time python3 -c 'from pandas import *'
    0m01.12s real     0m00.94s user     0m00.10s system

:/ yeah, doesn't look too promising

Better than the last one, though, but by fraction of a second

I think for now, I'll spend my time on numpy :)

@Serg Thanks though!

9:01 AM

@JacobVlijm always welcome

Q: Can't read a specific file in /sys directory

9:14 AM

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While searching for ways to obtain various WiFi information, I found /sys/class/net/wlan7/speed file. Problem is, even though all read permissions are granted, I can't read it. $ ls -l /sys/class/net/wlan7/speed ...

ubuntu files wifi

9:43 AM

Hey, Fabby !

Q: Ubuntu machine randomly reboots

10:49 AM

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I have a Ubuntu machine which randomly reboots itself: last reboot reboot system boot 2.6.32-042stab12 Sat Mar 25 23:48 - 12:42 (11:53) reboot system boot 2.6.32-042stab12 Wed Mar 22 18:28 - 12:42 (3+17:14) reboot system boot 2.6.32-042stab12 Sat Mar 18 05:10 - 12:42 (8+06:32) reboot ...

ubuntu reboot

11:06 AM

@Zacharee1 will what work?

11:31 AM

the sed stuff

11:43 AM

I think so.

Try it.

The posts from which they are taken from have some upvotes.

well idk how to adapt it

Which one are you aiming at?

idk

I'm not sure if I should try

since it'd be done from Java :p

Idk.

Probably you might never get a truly synchronous solution

I'll just leave it alone

11:51 AM

/shrug

Q: How to create a boo-table CD to install Ubuntu 16.04.2 using Ubuntu (Not windows)

12:05 PM

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Hi guys I am trying to create a Bootable CD with Ubuntu 16.04.2 but I am only using Ubuntu. I don't have a windows computer with a DVD burner. Any recommendations?

system-installation

jesus christ askubuntu.com/questions/897067/…

What is a "boo-table" :P

@ByteCommander OP doesn't like tables

Huh, since when does chat have real emojis?

wat

12:06 PM

:c

o_O

are you on your phone?

:P

nope

uhh

so I have embedded videos and you have emojis

what's going on

12:07 PM

It is not any greasemonkey script...

hue hacked

omg

Oooohhh!

I see it too now

It's the SOUP!

12:08 PM

wat

:)

AAAAAAH

:O

Q: The Stack Overflow Unofficial Patch (SOUP)

69

The Stack Overflow Unofficial Patch (SOUP) is a project to collect various minor client-side bug fixes, work-arounds and usability improvements for Stack Overflow and other Q&A sites on the Stack Exchange Network into a single user script. The intent of SOUP is not to make any substantial o...

script greasemonkey tampermonkey

>:)

@ByteCommander but I don't have that...

o.O

@edwinksl refresh :D

nothing for me

12:10 PM

rip

maybe only for >10k users

rip

doesn't work in SO chat

yeah

seems so

OH

ITS NATHAN'S SCRIPT

Hm?

Nah

12:14 PM

tis

> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'nodeType' of undefined
at getTextNodes (chatstatus.js:58)
at getTextNodesIn (chatstatus.js:68)
at EmojiReplacer.replaceEmojis (chatstatus.js:183)
at HTMLDivElement.<anonymous> (chatstatus.js:528)
at HTMLDivElement.<anonymous> (jquery.livequery.min.js:9)
at Function.each (jquery.min.js:2)
at init.each (jquery.min.js:2)
at e.livequery.run (jquery.livequery.min.js:9)
at checkQueue (jquery.livequery.min.js:9)

@NathanOsman fix your JS

:P

src="https://sechat.quickmediasolutions.com/static/img/tongue.png"

Oh right

@NathanOsman See what confusion you caused :P

how daer u

@RaghavSood now that you're in AU, it's time for pingspam >:)

y u spam

12:23 PM

hue

Hello :)

eek

user136984

Is the GIMP team just really small or something?

user136984

Because they haven't released a proper update in ages...

user136984

But the site is still being updated.

12:32 PM

hue

@ParanoidPanda what is that ? I nearly didn't recognize you ... :D Good afternoon ! :)

user136984

:D

user136984

@cl-netbox: It's the new fashion. :P

user136984

I'm doing something I've never done before: gone along with the times. :D

guh

these emojis

@NathanOsman pls

user136984

12:33 PM

But I quite like the colour and it's a nice change I think from the depressing thing I had before.

@ParanoidPanda hahaha ... new fashion ? If I would have known what happened now, maybe I'd not have changed from devil to blue. :D

user136984

:D

@ParanoidPanda depressing ? I'd rather say frighting ! :D

user136984

I think us all being random solid colours does lighten things up a little.

user136984

Well, my next one after this will be something else from my art collection.

user136984

12:37 PM

I will carefully choose it.

user136984

Once this craze is over. :P

:D :D :D

Raghav Sood

1:26 PM

@Zacharee1 Do not underestimate my cross-room pettiness and vengeful tendencies :)

hello

@RaghavSood uh oh

not sure if I really should be joining more chat rooms...already waste too much time in the others.

Raghav Sood

We can kick you out of r15 if it helps!

@Code-Apprentice JOIN US

1:29 PM

I'm here, aren't I?

is anyone truly here?

no

is anyone truly anywhere?

Raghav Sood

I'm not

we are all a figment of @Zacharee1's imagination

1:30 PM

rip

3:00 PM

@Zacharee1 nope

3:43 PM

@NathanOsman Your script keeps crashing

rip my phone

fine for me

Q: No permissions on external drive after moving from Ubuntu (elementary) to Arch (Apricity)

3:57 PM

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I recently decided to move from elementary 0.4 Loki (based on Ubuntu 16.04) to the latest version of Apricity (11.2016, based on Arch). I had backed up my data on an external HDD (ext4 file system). However, when I connect the drive under Apricity, I do not have any permission to access the drive...

ubuntu arch-linux permissions hard-disk external-hdd

@ByteCommander I'll have to take a look tomorrow.

I wonder why...

@NathanOsman go look in the developer console

the emojis are wreaking havoc

@Zacharee1 weird. It never did that for me.

Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'nodeType' of undefined
    at getTextNodes (sechat.quickmediasolutions.com/static/js/chatstatus.js:58)
    at getTextNodesIn (sechat.quickmediasolutions.com/static/js/chatstatus.js:68)
    at EmojiReplacer.replaceEmojis (sechat.quickmediasolutions.com/static/js/chatstatus.js:183)
    at HTMLDivElement.<anonymous> (sechat.quickmediasolutions.com/static/js/chatstatus.js:528)
    at HTMLDivElement.<anonymous> (sechat.quickmediasolutions.com/static/js/jquery.livequery.min.js:9)

52 total errors

Gimme a couple minutes to roll it back...

4:12 PM

the emojis work

but they error a lot

Rollback complete.

Reload the page to make the errors go away.

it's like magic

:p

@NathanOsman oh yeah, someone suggested that instead of replacing the text with images for only people with the script, you should replace the text with a unicode emoji before it's sent, so everyone sees it

Hmm I get upset when people close-vote text processing questions as off-topic

@Zanna link?

gotta CV

Seems to only happen at the weekend

No don't CV!

4:20 PM

:p

this one haha askubuntu.com/questions/897118/code-understanding/897139#897139

I'd be more inclined to close as Too Broad

What? There's only one possible answer and it's not even very long

shrug whatever, as long as people aren't thinking text-processing is off-topic

@Zacharee1 (1) not everyone sees those and (2) having the script modify messages before being posted is... a bit scary. I'm not so sure users will appreciate that, unless the script shows some kind of disclaimer.

What actually might be useful is an extra button that lets users insert them.

If text-processing is off-topic, then I'll go find some place where sed abusers are welcome ;)

4:30 PM

that question is on-topic

4:44 PM

@Zanna maybe not too broad, but I'm considering downvoting it for lack of research

@edwinksl thank you

@Zacharee1 I don't have an issue with that :)

I'm a close voter with a conscience. I don't consider text processing questions to be at all off topic, but I do consider "tell me what my code does" posted by a Stack Overflow user to be off topic, because it's a Trojan horse for asking all sorts of code debugging questions where they don't belong. There's 13,554,938 questions on Stack Overflow and 258,465 questions on Ask Ubuntu, so Ask Ubuntu should not be used as a mirror for Stack Overflow. It's better to use Stack Overflow as a mirror for Ask Ubuntu because it's such a huge site that it can easily absorb a few Ubuntu questions. — karel 18 mins ago

he does have a point

5:06 PM

I don't agree with that - close questions on their own merits