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12:00 AM
@Serg After watching you in action on the mainboard and your comments here in general chat room I definitely think you would fall in love with Software Engineering instead of Electrical Engineering.
 
Well, too late now
 
That awkward moment when you break services.jar...
@WinEunuuchs2Unix change to a color
Be pink
@Zanna :D
 
I almost quit my job when they introduced pink t-shirts.
It was for every friday in October 2016 so I booked all those days off but I was denied one day.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix well, what's your favorite color ? Just change your avatar to that
 
how do I do that? Do I have to paint a new avatar or there a simpler method?
 
12:06 AM
Just google the name of your favorite color, and download a picture of that. Then use that picture as your avatar
 
just a sec.
 
You hate pink that much?
 
I didn't realize my color was so popular: About 1,090,000,000 results (0.45 seconds)
did the colour change?
looks the same here :(
 
you probably need to reload
 
I think I have to pick all communities to show in chat...hang on.
It changes on mainboard but not chat room :(
 
12:13 AM
probably will take time to sync
oh, so black it is ?
hehe, nice. One of my top 3
 
yeah....although they say black isn't a color
 
Well, white isn't color either
but that's from physics point of view
i think I'll probably stay home and buy lightbulb tomorrow
 
although in the wall painting world they probably have 500 shades of white.... go figure
 
It's enough to have 50 shades of gray for most purposes
 
Been reading female emotional pornography have we :p
 
12:17 AM
( i used to do a lot of pencil drawing so i know kinda)
@WinEunuuchs2Unix nope, never read, only watched movie reviews
 
The Edmonton Oilers whaled on your Colorado Avalanche last night. Today at work I said a team of Grandmothers in Wheelchairs could beat your hockey team :)
 
Meh, hockey isn't Colorado's fav sport anyway
 
I used to read alot I kind of miss it. Haven't read a book in many years. Too busy with the internet.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix use Amazon online reader. I don't have kindle but that's how i read my kindle books
 
I read a ton of stuff on the internet. No time for kindle. Plus I write a ton of stuff too... probably more than I read now.
If you count writing programs for the internet I mean.
 
12:23 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix you should try reading a book....I mean with paper...fiction...
I think you would like it...
 
@TheXed I've read tons of books... It's just now there seems like no more time for it.
 
Make time for it :-D
 
Recently I've realized I've had 40 years of fake news... which makes me realize I've read millions of pages of fake books too: sci-fi, fantasy, etc. etc. It's good for learning the english language of course but not much else.
 
@TheXed should I put off sorting papers till tomorrow ? or should I put off AU answers and coding till tomorrow ?
 
@Serg what is the paper sorting for?
 
12:26 AM
Like what did I really gain from six books of Harry Potter or Hobbit or Lord of Rings or James Bond books? Not much.
 
@TheXed junk, old class notes, homeworks, exams
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix okay, maybe historical fiction then...
@Serg okay so nothing critical, it can wait...
 
I've read "Art of War" written thousands of years ago... I've read book on first clay tablets "ever printed" in Iraq which created hell below and double-entry accounting. Even history books though can have "fake news" in them.
It depends on which nation sponsored the authors to write the books.
 
okay then what is wrong with reading a book just for the sake of reading it :-P
Oh which is ironic...because I have a kindle fire but never read books on it...
 
I have amazon's web reader. I try to read . . . sometimes . . .a page for 15 minutes . . .
i've bunch of stuff there, to which i need to get, and material for classes. I'm just . . . how should i say it . . . i spend too much time on other things
aka YouTube and Ask Ubuntu
 
12:34 AM
I'm comfortable enough reading what you guys are writing now. Plus I read news web sites and opposition to government in power articles.
Not to mention all the technical stuff I have to read to program in Ubuntu. Additionally there are all the emails to read at work and bug reports emailed to me at home.
 
1:03 AM
@NathanOsman My first attempt at a live camera preview in ChronoSnap --^
 
What is ChronoSnap?
 
^_^ I made a toy out of old pieces of paper for my cat and dog. Was just playing with them for like 20 mins
 
1:23 AM
@Serg good choice.
 
@AndroidDev Nice!
@TheXed Android app for timelapse images.
 
@NathanOsman oh cool...my windows 10 mobile has that ability baked into its camera app :-P
 
@TheXed Does it save each individual image?
 
Yup
 
Can it shoot RAW?
 
1:27 AM
yup
 
Wow.
 
Maybe i really just throw away everything
far too many papers
far too many memories about failed courses
 
@TheXed it's a time lapse app that Nathan Osman made
 
however I did buy a programmable remote shutter for my DSLR, I am kind of excited to play with that...
@NathanOsman I actually didn't discover the ability of the timelapse thing on my phone until this weekend, so it might be a new feature...
 
@TheXed I bought an Android app that connects to the camera via USB OTG and allows me to control it.
I can program that as well.
 
1:31 AM
@NathanOsman oooh that's cool!
What app?
 
@NathanOsman oh I didn't even think about that...
 
@Seth It's $10.99 though.
 
No Nikon support...
 
Nikon shmikon :P
@TheXed There's this if you want Nikon support: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.qdd
I gave that one a try as well but the interface wasn't as good.
 
1:35 AM
Don't see my camera...
 
@TheXed Are you sure your phone supports OTG?
 
@Seth OnePlus 2?
 
hmm, seems to support OTG but also seems to be picky about it
might be your cable and/or adapters.
 
@Seth I am not trying...
 
Oh.. lol
 
1:44 AM
I already bought the remote shutter...not spending another 20 on apps....
 
poof
 
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
 
I extended my drive and found out it had 420 gigs
blaze it!!!
 
@Edity how could you not know?
 
lol
i'm thinking of Dual booting linux with the free chunks of unallocated space tho
brb getting my usb
 
1:48 AM
I wonder if Ubuntu supports my CPU yet...
 
what cpu?
 
i7-7700
 
wow someone had the smarts to rename my usb "UBUNTOES"
lets see
efi O_o
 
@Seth If it's not internal-only, it's TLS.
 
@TheXed y "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
 
1:53 AM
also, EFI is awesome.
 
because you "poof"ed
 
To Beta or not to Beta , that is the question ?
 
no
 
why is everyone solid colors
 
@Serg beta what?
@KazWolfe I am not, I am a rebel.
 
1:56 AM
shrug
 
@TheXed 17.04 beta. Also, solid color thing started with me - i was copying ( aka trolling ) Jacob. I posted a straw poll, people voted that i change to blue color. Then yesterday Nathan picked it up, and now Zach , and Zanna
Also, WinEunuuchs2Unix
 
@Serg what are the new features of 17.04?
 
NINTENDO SWITCH
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
@Edity is depressingly terrible.
 
@Serg if they are enticing I will beta with you...
 
1:57 AM
@TheXed I've no idea. That's why I am wondering whether I should download and check it out
 
@KazWolfe ikr
 
I like my devices without dead pixels and massive issues.
 
@Edity you have a switch?
 
plus i have emulators for all the cool games (the one cool game)
 
@TheXed no
 
1:59 AM
@KazWolfe what cool game is that?
 
@TheXed BOTW
 
@KazWolfe I bought that for Wii U..
 
@TheXed exactly. it works perfectly on emulators now so it's just awesome.
no need to buy a switch.
 
@KazWolfe the game itself isn't good, but lacking something...not as good as OOT...
but nothing is...
 
actually, i really like it. It has some nice attention to detail that is just amazing.
 
2:00 AM
The situation with all the papers kinda reminds me situation with electrical engineering: got too far, yet it's just bunch of clutter
 
@KazWolfe I am not saying I hate it...
Just doesn't hold my attention like the others have in the past...
 
I know, I'm just showing my own view.
@Serg So, can you help with my problem?
 
@KazWolfe probably not
 
aww. :(
 
I mean yes you are right that it has amazing detail, and there are some reallly amazing scenery spots...beautiful landscapes...but...
have you beat it yet?
 
2:02 AM
no.
 
if you have then i don't want to know anymore detail :-P
 
haven't really had time yet to play too much.
 
@TheXed Descent :D :P
I play that way too much. The only videogame I play semi-regularly.
 
descent?
 
Descent is a 3D first-person shooter video game developed by Parallax Software and released by Interplay in Europe in 1995. The game features six degrees of freedom gameplay and was followed by several expansion packs, as well as a 1996 port to the PlayStation. Ports were also announced for the Sega Saturn and Panasonic M2, but these were later cancelled. The game is set out in the Solar System where the player is cast as the Material Defender, a mercenary hired by the PTMC. Descent spawned two direct sequels: Descent II in 1996 and Descent 3 in 1999. On April 10, 2015, a prequel titled Descent...
 
2:03 AM
@Seth Amnesia: The Dark Descent?
Oh.
 
@Seth that game is nearly as old as my keyboard...
 
@TheXed but it's probably aged better :P
It's still a ton of fun.
 
@Seth I doubt it...my keyboard is amazing...
 
@TheXed @_@ smexy
 
Wow, it does look pretty good :)
 
2:06 AM
I just need the left arrow key cap...
 
@NathanOsman Unfortunately you can't buy it anymore.. As of December 2015 iirc, because two companies that each owned a part of it broke their business deal and now neither has enough of the rights to sell it.
 
But other then that it is perfect...
You can't buy my keyboard anymore either...at least not for a reasonable price
 
but you may or may not be able to find it on the internet, deep down somewhere.. I think.
 
@TheXed Your IBM clickety Clack Keyboard cost like $300 in 1986
 
Which brings up the question.. if no one sells it anymore, is it still piracy to distribute for free? I mean, I'm sure the law views it that way, but really..
 
2:07 AM
model m?
 
OK. I'll probably shove all the papers back into drawers for now. Two bags of trash ( and third one coming up ) are enough for now , i guess
 
Yeah but I didn't buy it...
@KazWolfe yes model m
 
my office has like six of those around, lol.
 
@KazWolfe you should grab one if you can...
because they are getting really hard to find in working condition...
 
@TheXed I see one on eBay for $90
Actually, I also see one for 60.
 
2:12 AM
@Seth That is an interesting moral dilemma.
 
rep
 
I have wondered the very same thing myself.
 
ME NEED REP
:333333
 
@Edity hey!
Welcome back.
 
o hoi
and ty
 
2:12 AM
@Seth I think abandonware is a thing.
 
@NathanOsman my phone broke
 
But legally, I think yes.
 
i got a refund
>:33333 me getting a s5
 
@NathanOsman I've been chewing on it since it was pulled from online retailers. Makes playing with friends hard :/
 
@Seth here's one way of looking at it: if neither party owns enough rights to sell it, then neither has enough rights to sue you over using it (in theory, anyway) :P
 
2:13 AM
@KazWolfe legally defined? Hm, I do think I've read that somewhere.
@NathanOsman I don't think that's how it works lol :P
 
No, abandonware in the typical sense is not legal.
Companies can say "no, fine, have it for free. We don't care."
 
@Seth It sounded good in my head :P
 
I wonder if this would be a good question for Law.
 
@KazWolfe Neither company can say that though.
 
But otherwise, legally, no. You can not distribute the game.
 
2:14 AM
@Seth Absolutely. Go for it.
 
But yes. Talk to Law.
And IANAL.
 
@KazWolfe Distribute - but what about use?
 
@NathanOsman Did you legally obtain it? If so, yes. If not, no.
 
Distributing something and obtaining it are two different things.
@Seth post a link when you have a question up.
 
k
 
2:15 AM
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Q: How legal is offering abandonware for download?

cybermonkeyA quick background to my project (it's essential to the question, as you'll see later): My project offers a multiplayer server platform for server listings for a game (Crysis Wars), allowing players to connect to these servers (note that it's not a gameserver); the online platform (called GameSpy...

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A: What is the state of intellectual property when the owner goes bankrupt?

phoogA bankrupt company's assets are transferred to its creditors. This includes intangible assets such as trademarks, copyrights, and other intellectual property. Whoever ends up with the rights to the game can continue to market and distribute it, or use legal means to prevent others from doing so.

 
hm. I think this situation is unique since both companies still exist, but they each own "half" the rights (in reality I don't think it's a 50/50 split but you know what I mean).
 
Interesting thing is I don't think either company cares much, since each has embraced a different reboot of the game.
 
It looks like the source code is available?
 
hang on...
 
2:17 AM
@NathanOsman The engine, yes. Not the data files.
 
Abandonware is a product, typically software, ignored by its owner and manufacturer, and for which no product support is available. Although such software is usually still under copyright, the owner may not be tracking or enforcing copyright violations. In intellectual rights context, abandonware is a software (or hardware) special case of the general concept of orphan works. == Definition == Definitions of "abandoned" vary, but in general it is like any item that is abandoned – it is ignored by the owner, and as such product support and possibly copyright enforcement are also "abandoned". It can...
 
@Seth Ah.
 
@KazWolfe yeah I was just reading that
 
the edit reviewers
so quiet today
 
@Seth That covers archival, though.
> Hosting and distributing copyrighted software without permission is illegal.
 
2:19 AM
@Seth although not the same, there is also this: playoverload.com
 
@NathanOsman Yup! That's the new one they're working on. It's pretty slick.
 
zzz\
 
descendentstudios.com <-- that's the one the other company endorsed.
 
I should give it a shot.
 
@NathanOsman they just released a new teaser with Linux support a few days ago.
I couldn't get it to work on my machine though. I'm guessing I have a missing dependency, but I can't figure out what.
Works fine in Windows though.
 
2:21 AM
I will try it out.
 
Well, technically, @Seth... the data files are useless without the engine, yes?
 
But I need to expand ~ a bit first. Don't have enough free space.
 
how do I make new tags?
 
@KazWolfe I'd say so, yeah.
@NathanOsman Cool!
 
???
 
2:24 AM
LVM is the most amazing thing ever.
With two commands I can instantly expand any partition while it's mounted.
 
it is pretty handy.
 
>:(
i hate people who downvote without a comment
 
@Edity please stop posting random stuff
 
@Edity You make new tags by using them.
 
@NathanOsman thanks
 
2:25 AM
And if you make bad tags, I will delete them.
 
anyway, that reminds me, I have a friend who is working on a patch for apt that automatically does an fs snapshot before an upgrade.
 
Because I do not like useless tags.
@Seth That sounds... slow
 
(on supported file systems)
 
@Seth LVM can do that.
In fact, that's what I used when I was trying out amdgpu.
 
yeah he was thinking of ZFS, btrfs, and LVM iirc.
 
2:25 AM
Word of warning: stay away from btrfs.
 
@KazWolfe Might be. Never tried it myself.
 
It's... got issues.
 
Can't be any slower than NTFS shadow copies though.
@NathanOsman yeah I learned that the hard way.
 
@Edity, you're only at 300 rep?
 
LVM snapshots are instantaneous :D
 
2:26 AM
You can't make new tags iirc.
 
should I try ZFS though?
 
@KazWolfe yep
 
@Seth I've heard good things about ZFS.
 
Ok, then you ask one of us to make a tag for you.
wait no, 300 can make tags. Disregard, I am dumb.
 
In other words, ask the question and we'll add the tag if it's appropriate.
 
2:27 AM
But do ask. Because we've been around way longer.
 
ok
 
@Edity Sorry if I was too harsh in that comment. I'm not in the best mood right now :)
 
@AndroidDev its alright, deleted
 
I appreciate the low disk warnings but when I click "ignore", I don't need to see the same warning again 5 minutes later.
At least remember not to display the warning for the rest of the current session.
 
agreed
 
2:29 AM
@KazWolfe what kind of condition though?
 
Yo @Seth, annoying user who is ranting at closes. Have a link.
 
@NathanOsman I only get it once on each startup
 
whack the banhammer at the ranter hard
 
@AndroidDev I'm going to venture a guess that once is supposed to be the intended behavior but I've hit some sort of weird edge case / bug.
 
xD
 
2:31 AM
@KazWolfe Seems like he's had multiple people try to explain it to him.
 
@NathanOsman So just for grins I threw the old v1.6.1.8 (circa 2011) APK of ES File Explorer (I keep it around because the new version is basically malware) at a few different decompilers, and uh, let's just say they must have set the obfuscation to max :)
 
Oh, I'm sure they did.
 
The company that develops it is based in China, so I was hoping to look at the code to see if it was doing anything sneaky, but it was far too unreadable. There were several large sections that failed to decompile altogether.
 
cya
 
2:49 AM
@AndroidDev Ya gotta wonder how they can read the stack traces they get in bug reports :P
 
3:11 AM
It works very well, in fact.
Was it just the game that wasn't working or Steam?
 
It was the game. I tried both Steam and the DRM free version.
@NathanOsman are you on intel graphics or dedicated?
 
AMD.
 
Hm. Maybe it's intel specific.
 
Although I do have a laptop with Intel, so I could try that later.
 
@ThomasWard Hey, what was a security professional doing in the kitchen ?
He was PAN-testing XD
sorry, i couldn't help myself, had to share the punniness
Cider-security is not a joking business
I'm sorry XD
 
3:23 AM
defenestrates @Serg
 
meeeep @_@
wait, i don't know what defenestrates means
 
@Serg, is it just me, or is your profile picture blue?
 
@luk3yx yes, it is blue
 
@Serg Why is that?
 
@luk3yx #colorizeAskUbuntu movement is underway
de·fen·es·trate
dēˈfenəˌstrāt/
verb
3rd person present: defenestrates
1.
rare
throw (someone) out of a window.
@JourneymanGeek how verbose
 
3:25 AM
That is a great word :P
 
@Serg its the proper karmic punishment for an incorrigible punster
 
@luk3yx that's because i posted a straw poll one day, people voted for royal blue, so i changed it to that
originally, the goal was to copy Jacob
now it turned into a thing of its own
 
Prague is famous for its defenestrations. Its an act of architecture.
 
@Serg ...and what is #colorizeAskUbuntu?
 
@JourneymanGeek you know what else is punny ? Eunuch system administration
 
3:27 AM
@Serg is this administering a system of Eunuchs, Eunchs Administering systems or...
 
@luk3yx just a made up hashtag i came up with , because now more users turned their icons into solid colors
@JourneymanGeek all of the above
 
@Serg Why solid colours/colors?
 
@luk3yx really no reason. Like I said, originally I wanted to copy Jacob, with his solid orange icon, but was unsure. Then i posted a straw poll and people voted for blue. So . . .yeah . . .and then some people liked the idea of having solid colors
Just like that
Really, no grand reason and no grand purpose. Just for fun
 
I'll pass. My dogatars are a signature
 
My punniness is a signature. I don't need no icons for people to recognize my terrible fish puns, which I make on every opporTUNAty I get
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Also , why did a Windows user buy an axe ? He wanted to become a hacker XD
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actually . . . no
OK, I should stop now before this escalates exponentially
I could go on a TANgent, but it would be a SIN and COSt me dearly
somebody stop me please
 
3:37 AM
retrodefenestrates @Serg, then defenestrates him again
 
XD
 
3:59 AM
@Zacharee1 youtube.com/watch?v=8jckHD4aTBw I've lost it at 16:33 . . . Best game of the year, 10/10, MLG pro .... i need to go lie down . . .
Why did OP come to Korea ?
because op . . .op . . .op gannam style
 
4:12 AM
my puns are very sofishticated
 
4:39 AM
@Serg I think we have one of those.
 
4:53 AM
i don't have the heart to tell this guy that ubuntu is pretty much littered with proprietary stuff IIRC.
(and that it's not GNU/Linux and RMS can go kick dirt)
also... IME.
 
^--- obligatory
 
@NathanOsman Obligatory "get off your damn high horse, richard. We should be calling it XFree86/Linux if we go by any sane metric"
 
@KazWolfe Hey I agree with you. But I had to post that picture.
 
seriously... the entire free software movement is nuts.
good idealistic viewpoint, except it's literally never going to happen because people like money and doing exactly what RMS wants us to do will effectively murder the entire software industry single-handedly.
 
What's Richard Stallman's favorite music genre? GNU-metal
badum-tsk
 
4:58 AM
@Serg He doesn't listen to that. It's too proprietary.
actually, i can totally see RMS not listening to nonfree music or watching nonfree movies, etc.
someone should tell him the universe isn't sharing its source code.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: slimbodyketone.co.uk/max-robust-xtreme/ by syutbvc on askubuntu.com
 
@SmokeDetector Is that BBCode?
 
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Q: Bind9 & DHCP, Why are some of my records getting a very short TTL?

shelzmikeUbuntu server 14.04, bind9, isc-dhcp-server, dDNS I have been messing around on my lab machine at home and have dhcp and dns working finally. One thing that is strange that I cannot figure out - even though I have my default TTL set to a week, some of my devices (most, but not all, are dynamic u...

 
5:17 AM
@KazWolfe you do realise that's spam, not a misguided user, right?
 
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Q: How to enable subdirs too in Ubuntu 14 apache (auth via LDAP)

Marina AlaWe had an Ubuntu 12.04 with apache and LDAP auth. Worked great! Even subdirs too (after a user logged in to "/var/www" it could browse the subdirs too) But: we upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04, apache config same. Now, the users can log in ok, but one problem came: If they try to browse a subdir, they w...

 
5:47 AM
@angussidney doesn't mean we can't poke fun at spam every once in a while
:p especially if it's fried spam with eggs, then we can poke it with fork
 
6:14 AM
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6:49 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Hydroluxe Serum - Does it Really Works? by laurbaclee on askubuntu.com
 
 
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