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chaskes

12:37 AM

@Serg Hang in there. 继续加油！

Serg

@chaskes I'm trying man , 但是很难

chaskes

@Serg 梦总是容易，一生总是难。

Serg

that's true . . . .

chaskes

@Serg I signed up for Chinese Learn Online so I can get more listening practice and some vocabulary work.

Serg

@chaskes try out popupchinese.com Their podcasts are pretty good, and first week is free so you can get all their mp3s and pdfs. After that - only podcasts are available, nothing for download

Those guys helped me a lot

chaskes

12:47 AM

Thanks. I'll look at that one too. I'm not getting any younger. I've been stuck in intermediate for a long time. I want to advance, so I'm finally trying to be very serious about it.

@Serg One problem is that because I'm self-taught I have big gaps in grammar and vocabulary. This is what I'm trying to systematically overcome now. If I watch a Chinese tv show I understand half of the words as isolated units but can't really understand the sentence.

Serg

@chaskes same here, i lack vocab. I can mostly understand , but sometimes a word or two makes me utterly confuzzd

I think being self taught helped me more , than if i was in class. They dont really teach practical stuff at school

Anonymous

1:08 AM

Hi all.

Henry WH Hack

Hello. o/ :)

Anonymous

@James this triggered a staring contest between me and the photo... I lost

Anonymous

Hi Henry! How are you doing?

Anonymous

VirtualBox question -- if I export a VM on a windows host... Can it be imported onto a Linux host for use?

Journeyman Geek

Yes

Anonymous

1:12 AM

Thank you @JourneymanGeek

Anonymous

I will be doing that this weekend... Going to be wiping my hard drive and putting just Ubuntu on it.

Anonymous

I am a bit afraid though... Files and files of things on Windows... Of things I prob will never look at again.

Journeyman Geek

@onebree why not back up first?

then delete once you're sure

Anonymous

I only have 1 hard drive.

Anonymous

I think my dad has a nas drive for the network? I have to check.

Journeyman Geek

1:13 AM

._.

grumbles about people needing to be local ;p

Anonymous

I have zips of previous backups (last time I restored) on dropbox, but only 5 or so gigs left. And 10 gb on google.

Anonymous

The hardest part will be setting up my dev enviornment.

Journeyman Geek

ah

I do system level backups ._.

Anonymous

Does anyone here have advice on what to look out for when setting up a dev environemnt?

Journeyman Geek

with backup backups.

Anonymous

1:16 AM

I have my dotfiles on github... that's about it

Journeyman Geek

@onebree that's a rediculously broad question

Anonymous

Sorry :-/

Journeyman Geek

"How do I build a lightsaber?"

"what is god?"

"WHERE'S WALLY?"

all these questions need context.

Anonymous

waldo, ftfy

Journeyman Geek

naw, man in striped shirt, not adorable little mobile trash compactor

Anonymous

1:17 AM

I am a rails developer. Last time I set up a working dev environment was also my first time... six months ago on this VM.

Journeyman Geek

ah, that's a starting point

what do you like/hate about it?

Anonymous

I know I need Ruby, and gems, and postgres.

Journeyman Geek

is it documented?

Anonymous

no

Anonymous

This is my personal system, not some docker container for work

Journeyman Geek

1:18 AM

dosen't need to even be complex

I havr something like

get sshd running

sudo systemctl enable sshd
sudo systemctl start sshd
sudo systemctl status sshd

install nomachine
firewall settings open up port 4000udp

sudo dnf install @virtualization to install kvm

(this is fedora but you get the idea)

Anonymous

I set up my vm because at the time, I was doing a short apprenticeship. now, it turned into a contracting gig.

Journeyman Geek

documentation isn't for other people. Its for when 6 months down the road, you wonder what you were doing

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Anonymous

I guess what I want to know is... Besides ~/ dotfiles, are there any other places I should look for when it comes to configs?

Journeyman Geek

hmm

maybe /etc ?

6

A: How do I "duplicate" a server?

If all else fails, there's the old fashioned way - On Ubuntu or debian,use dpkg --get-selections to dump out a list of installed packages, and install them with dpkg --set-selections. The equivalent of this for red hat based distros is yum-debug-dump and yum-debug-restore (optionally with --insta...

this is how I reverse engineer a system

Anonymous

thank you!

Anonymous

1:23 AM

I will be sure to include documentation as well :-)

Thomas W.

some things keep secondary configs elsewhere

case in point some bind9/named configs keep zonefiles in /var/cache/bind/ or elsewhere

so it may not be just /etc and dotfile items

checking what the existing server has in terms of what's configured where wouldn't hurt either

just saying :)

Anonymous

New topic. I am used to vim, but want to move to Atom for reasons... Any good atom configs out there? I feel so intimidated by the many options in the GUI

Serg

atom.io/packages/vim-mode-plus

@onebree

Anonymous

Thank you serg!

Serg

Thank Google

Anonymous

1:32 AM

Is it possible to run atom in the terminal, like how vim is?

Thomas W.

Atom is a GUI, I thought

Anonymous

I mean, I saw that on google, but I thought you said it out of recommendation from personal use :P

Thomas W.

and not a CLI editor

Anonymous

It is

Anonymous

Maybe I misread when I saw someone say they used atom in terminal. Maybe they meant adding a terminal TO atom

Thomas W.

1:33 AM

I think they meant either that, or using Atom to open things via the terminal (read: atom /path/to/file)

Anonymous

Ah, okay.

Anonymous

What do you use, Thomas?

Serg

atom is gui editor AFAIK . You can only launch it from terminal . . . or maybe have a builtin terminal window there, but no - it doesn't run in terminal

Thomas W.

@onebree for? General text editing? gedit. For syntax highlighting, it depends (vim, gedit, other nameless utilities). Except for Python... for Python, I use a fully fledged IDE.

TheXed

Hi

@Serg Did you see my answer to your question?

Thomas W.

1:35 AM

and C++. And Java. I use IDEs for those

Anonymous

Why do you use an IDE for python?

Serg

@TheXed which questino ? on AU ?

TheXed

@Serg about getting into the IT industry.

Anonymous

I took a java class this past spring.. I see why the IDE is so helpful.

Serg

@onebree because he likes completions

Thomas W.

1:36 AM

@onebree because I use PyCharm, and it helps catch evil things I would miss doing it by hand (syntax errors, code not reached, etc.)

it also really helps in Py2 -> Py3 by-hand migrations/ports

Anonymous

That makes sense

Thomas W.

that, and I can create multiple test cases

Serg

@TheXed yeah, i saw that . . . .

Thomas W.

run it with Coverage analysis, and also see output, without opening a separate terminal

@onebree But, to each their own :)

Anonymous

All I need is syntax highlighting, spell check, and an 80 character line (yet to be added in vimrc)

TheXed

1:37 AM

Okay just making sure...some valuable...or not so valuable information there.

Zacharee1

Typing this from my newly repaired lg g2

Now I just gotta charge it and put CM on it

Anonymous

Serg, you are interested in IT?

Serg

I am interested in getting out of college and having a proper life , because i am very sick and tired of this soap opera called "my college life" . . . .but yes, I'm also interested in IT industry

Anonymous

I would suggest certifications. CCNA, Redhat, etc

Serg

I‘m planning to do Comptia Linux+ and A+

TheXed

1:40 AM

@Serg ahh yes @onebree has a very good point certs are good to have...

But at the same time don't get to hung up on them, I have no certs...and do fine...

Anonymous

A+ I hear is an easier one, especially since high schools offer it sometimes. But Compti Linux + much better

Anonymous

Anything other than A+ is a lot better.

TheXed

Although I could probably pass many of the certs test...

Anonymous

I think it depends on what you are interested in doing.

Anonymous

Did you go to college @TheXed?

Anonymous

1:42 AM

Sometimes certs are a way to get a job and bypass the degree barrier

TheXed

@onebree I have a Associates Degree in Computer Science.

Anonymous

Cool! I will hopefully earn mine this spring.

Thomas W.

A+ is worthless

Linux+ is better

Zacharee1

-_-

Anonymous

@ThomasW. I didn't want to sound that harsh :P

Thomas W.

1:43 AM

whistles nonchalantly, but was speaking from first-hand experience

Serg

worthless == my current state. Sure , I'll take that

TheXed

@ThomasW. My former job paid 0.50-0.75 per hour per cert...so A+ wouldn't be completely useless in that case...

Thomas W.

mmm

true

but it really depends on the job ;)

some require certs, some require proof of knowledge regardless of certs :P

Anonymous

@Serg what kind of IT do you want to go into? My father works in operations for an ISP. I could ask him what he looks for in people.

Serg

well, as far as i've understood it's all about getting lucky , so whatever is good i guess

TheXed

1:45 AM

@Serg another thought to getting yourself in the industry is find an organization (school, library, church) that can't find an IT person or has one but could still use some cheap/free help and volunteer, could serve as a proving ground and offer some great practice.

Serg

i honestly dont know anymore . . .

TheXed

I know at my school district I would love to have a competent volunteer, to replace my part-time guy that keeps saying he is going to get another full time job but won't leave.

Anonymous

The Linux Bible will help with a redhat cert. Fedora/centos is common in servers and IT

Anonymous

If you are interested in the CCNA, my boyfriend has the dummies prep book for it. He says he is learning a lot, and if you do the labs, then you really do retain the information.

Serg

CCNA is probably above my level , plus i dont have lab setup

TheXed

1:49 AM

<----Shoot me in the head CISCO...

Anonymous

there's software that simulates an environment etc, and you can use it for the prep book labs

Serg

<----- if i can't get out of college, im gonna suicide myself with a toaster .. . . or build a suicide bot on raspberry

Anonymous

I mean, buy the book... Much cheaper than taking 2 college courses to cover both CCNA tests

Anonymous

Serg do not worry... Maybe look into general programming jobs in the mean time, until you learn more IT specific things

Anonymous

People will hire programmers without degrees if they have the proof of skill on github (or even private repos deployed publicly online)

TheXed

1:53 AM

Yeah programmers are always in high demand, but IT is more fun IMHO.

Network Admin though is where the real fun happens though...and the nightmares...

Thomas W.

tell me about it

Anonymous

I mean, it is easier to start off general, and do that while you learn more at home.

Thomas W.

@TheXed Network Admin, Systems Admin, Security, are the big ones right now

Anonymous

And who knows, maybe you will fall in love

Thomas W.

but starting general and going into more specific specialization over time will help

trust me, start general, and youi'll start drifting eventually to specific niches :)

Serg

1:54 AM

i wish i knew any of this before

TheXed

As my former boss said before he quit and they offered me his position: With great power comes great responsibility....

Anonymous

General exposes you to SO MUCH, and then you will find your interests

Serg

@TheXed he's wrong , with great power comes resistance times current squared

TheXed

@Serg lol...

Anonymous

@Serg If I stayed in college and didn't switch my major a few times (and other things), I would have graduated last month with a BS in CS. Sometimes it gets me down, but not often anymore. I dropped out because it wasn't the right time/env. Soon enough, I met awesome people and back to college for my AS in CS.

Serg

1:58 AM

@onebree i can't drop out even if i wanna. I'm pretty much at senior level. But it took me 6 years and who knows how long till i graduate

TheXed

@Serg anyways parting advice...certs and degrees are nice, but don't discredit experience...

Anonymous

If I never left university, I would not have met my boyfriend, you wonderful people on SO/AU, and my mentor... (The last 2 probably, but much later, and with much fewer interactions. And my mentor would prob not even be my mentor)

Serg

Imma go , gf is online. Thanks for advice guys

Yall rock

Anonymous

@Serg I am not saying to drop out. I basically mean that it's OK to take longer than 4 years for a BS or 2 years for an AS,

TheXed

@Serg yeah Don't drop out...but try to get experience as you go to school somehow..you will learn things that you won't learn in the classroom and you might get your foot in the door some where and land that dream job.

Anonymous

2:00 AM

I was in uni full time for 2 years but repeated classes so I only got 1 year of credits. From that, I am spreading 2 semesters (1 year) of full time associates across 4 semesters (and one summer, now). So that means it would have taken me 4 years, then a skip year so 5, to complete an associates.

Anonymous

u-bundt-cake

Anonymous

See ya later Serg. Good night to everyone else!

TheXed

Good night

Zacharee1

@onebree ow

Henry WH Hack

3:01 AM

Next year I am going to be more helpful on the main site

and become a moderator in the next 10 years.

Edity

3:20 AM

Brexit!

breakfast :P

Henry WH Hack

3:43 AM

I edited my profile stackexchange.com/users/7238091/henry-wh-hack to say this: Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems. (Linus Torvalds) and in my opinion MS is a lot better at making money than it is at making good operating systems. (Linus Torvalds) :)

^Words of Wisdom!^

Abhishek Bhatia

4:23 AM

@onebree Do you mean the Linux Bible(as.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-111821854X.html). I am new to linux, was going through it.

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5:04 AM

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Nathan Osman

Hello.

So it appears that "encoder threads" in Kdenlive doesn't really do anything. Only two cores (out of four) are being utilized.

...even though it was supposed to use four threads.

Edity

oh

Nathan Osman

H.264 is supposed to be parallelizable, I thought?

Edity

me neither

Nathan Osman

Bonus points if it would use my GPU... ಠ_ಠ

Edity

6:06 AM

._.

Nathan Osman

So I have two 4K cameras and I'm curious to see if I can get them positioned and synchronized well enough to film in 3D.

Or at least get something that doesn't give me a headache to view.

Edity

gawd crafting in minecraft windows 10 edition beta is so wonky

Mudit Kapil

@Serg Ok thanks for sharing.

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Nathan Osman

6:55 AM

PayPal is really asking for trouble with their latest notification emails.

I was almost convinced that the email was a phishing scam that Gmail failed to detect.

The links pointed to a suspicious domain, the email included a link that would require logging in, etc.

The only thing going for it was the fact that the email was received directly from one of PayPal's email servers via TLS.

Edity

pay pal? pen pal!

Rinzwind

boo!

Jacob Vlijm

AAAArrrrgh, don't scare me like that.

Edity

7:12 AM

BOOOOOO!

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Nathan Osman

7:28 AM

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Incorrect $HOME env variable for a newly created user

On my Ubuntu machine, I logged in as "olduser" and created "newuser" using the following command: adduser --system --home /usr/share/newuser --no-create-home --ingroup newgroup --disabled-password --shell /bin/false newuser This adds a new line: newuser:x:104:1001::/usr/share/newuser:/bin/fa...

Edity

:P

Byte Commander

7:46 AM

Yep.

Seems to be a spammy morning today.

edwinksl

easy spam flags for everybody!

should this be closed for being about hardware recommendations? askubuntu.com/questions/793391/gaming-mice-for-ubuntu

Stefano Palazzo

8:27 AM

@edwinksl should be (has been) closed for being too broad

the list of gaming mice that work in linux, and to what extend they work, is too long

Also has a great answer from Rinzwind, which helps :)

Rinzwind

and you still close it? :*

@StefanoPalazzo no it is pretty limited ;-) One 1 good option: Logitech

at least I got an upvote :P

edwinksl

@Rinzwind Phoronix, not Phoronic xD

Stefano Palazzo

I forgot to upvote .-.

Edity

9:01 AM

XD

Videonauth

sniffs

mhmm I love the smell of spam in the morning

Edity

i like the eggs and pencil shavings smell in the morning ^

edwinksl

@Videonauth the kind that people eat? or the kind that people send to AU?

Videonauth

Edity

classic askubuntu breakfast. mmmm

9:11 AM

.

WTH is Zorin OS?!?

Videonauth

for sure not ubuntu :P

so off topic

if its in a question on the site

Edity

:P

Uncle Google

edwinksl

@Videonauth have you read the official python tutorial before

Edity

:D

Videonauth

9:17 AM

@edwinksl partially, and i had gotten me some kind of learning app on my phone which was pretty enlighting

Byte Commander

@Edity family photo? ;-)

Edity

yup

i just took the oppuTUNAty to.

Videonauth

im actually pondering over how to go and make sure in my end result are only a given amount of each character

for my password script

Edity

My house is: 11 AskUbuntu Table, StackUbuntu.

lol

edwinksl

@Videonauth docs.python.org/3/tutorial/introduction.html#strings docs.python.org/3/tutorial/…

Videonauth

9:21 AM

well in c++ i would run simply a for loop over it counting the occurrences of the just fetched random character

edwinksl

see the examples in the links ;)

Edity

?!? IRQL_DRIVERS_NOT_EQUAL BSOD?!?

0x0000000007E

edwinksl

rip in peace

Edity

Hmm might be a driver problem]

Videonauth

@edwinksl paste.ubuntu.com/18221630 see my solution for it

@Edity or your power supply is going to die or on max load all the time

edwinksl

9:35 AM

@Videonauth Date: 30.06.2916 nice date :D

Videonauth

oops :p

well good find :)

corrected it

and the rest?

edwinksl

1 sec, i gotta afk for a couple of mins ;)

it looks like it works though, but i would rewrite some of it to make it more "pythonic"

Videonauth

im open for input :)

im quick to have it more look like c++ somehow, might be that this comes from me using c++ for years :)

edwinksl

yeah i understand, i came from a java/c++ background too

Videonauth

what i found now is that i could do a default value for char_limit and only provide it when it is in the arguments given

and whats as well missing is preventing infinite loop ;)

just seen that this can happen while testing it

Edity

9:45 AM

internet issues

goodnight everyone :)

Rinzwind

10:26 AM

0

Q: When i run http://localhost/phpmyadmin on firefox web browser, i found

Server error 500 ReloadHide details The website encountered an error while retrieving http://localhost/phpmyadmin/. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly.

phpmyadmin

0

Q: When i run http://localhost/phpmyadmin on firefox browser i saw

I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS. When i run http://localhost/phpmyadmin on firefox i saw a blank page. what i can do.

14.04

Videonauth

@Rinzwind yeah answer one properly and close the other as dupe, I believe they are connected, a simple RTFM fail.

or merging could be appropriate as well

edwinksl

@Videonauth is charlimit supposed to be the max number of times a char can be repeated?

Videonauth

@edwinksl yep

and it runs in an infinite loop if the password (characters) is longer than len(charset), but I'm on that already.

len of charset is 95 so if i want to have a longer password i have to make sure i have enough repetance of the characters to fit that value

Android Dev

That spam got deleted fast...

Videonauth

11:02 AM

@edwinksl paste.ubuntu.com/18226043 changed version as it is now

grooveplex

11:43 AM

Is askubuntu.com/questions/793537/… on topic here?

Oli

@grooveplex You can run Ubuntu on the Raspi 2 and 3

grooveplex

oh okay

Videonauth

even on a zero it runns but not very good

Byte Commander

@Videonauth github.com/ByteCommander/PasswordGenerator

That should be what you need.

Videonauth

yeah mine runs as well :)

did you see my last paste ?

Byte Commander

11:55 AM

I did.

Just wanted to make something really flexible.

grooveplex

If anyone wants to have fun formatting a post The Right Way(TM) askubuntu.com/questions/793483/… is for you

Videonauth

@ByteCommander yep I'm downloading yours for sure as it contains good leads on how to do things

Byte Commander

:)

@grooveplex TB;DE

(too bold, don't edit)

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Videonauth

@grooveplex holy, you should have added an eye cancer warning ....

@ByteCommander you are no friend of much in code documetation, are you? xD

Rinzwind

12:02 PM

@Videonauth his code is the documentation.

Byte Commander

@Videonauth ^ exactly. The best code does not need documentation.

grooveplex

The best code documents itself

Videonauth

11 hours ago, by Journeyman Geek

documentation isn't for other people. Its for when 6 months down the road, you wonder what you were doing

@Rinzwind for myself it is fine, just needs more reading, but imagine i would be a complete newcomer to programming :)

Rinzwind

@JourneymanGeek since all my work is paid for by clients my boss does not want documentation.

plus documentation is 99% of the time obsolete, cuz not maintained.
and I know almost to the line of code where I need to be when I need something (I am rarely more then 20 lines of)

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12:18 PM

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terdon

Yay! My first complaint!

Videonauth

@RinzwindI have a nice example for you: I worked as a freelancer for a company which usual programmer for their in house logistics network died from a car accident. It took me about 5 months to get to know the code which was in fact 1,5 million lines c++ code, completely undocumented according to your preferences

Jacob Vlijm

@terdon Brute!

edwinksl

what complaint

terdon

That meta post is about an answer I deleted.

Videonauth

12:27 PM

@terdon well, you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs

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edwinksl

@Videonauth what an analogy

Videonauth

@edwinksl yeah but simply true, and it fits, to make a site like this running you need sometimes to take actions which displease other people

edwinksl

oh definitely

Videonauth

and its valid for almost every aspect of life

edwinksl

fo sho

Rinzwind

12:50 PM

@Videonauth then I am a better coder than you ;-) I maintain software for companies that I do -not- work for and never coded software for. And no documentation besides user names, passwords and IP adresses. About 900 companies (all with exact the same software)

Heck I have a similar experience: company got fed up wiht he arrogance of the in-house coder (1 dude for the whole company). They 1st told him he was going to get fired (...) and then let him work unsupervised for the next 3 weeks (.......................................)

So when he got canned he locked down the linux system D: D:

edwinksl

lol

are you going to do the same to the clients you dislike? ;)

Rinzwind

They offered me a straigh 1000 euro to get the system accessible ;-)

Videonauth

yeah still, after that I'm not taking contracts like this anymore, one time a 5 month headache was enough, since then i always ask in interviews if their code is documented

Rinzwind

took me 1 reboot and 1 password reset _O- (easiest money I ever made)

edwinksl

sounds fishy. was the in-house coder your good friend? ;D

Rinzwind

12:53 PM

nope

Videonauth

this was like reading the bible four times in a row

Rinzwind

he was just that. arrogant.

edwinksl

so basically like any linux sysadmin ;)

Rinzwind

naa there are good ones.

We have had several people that got fired or quit by themself. All of them we stayed in contact with. One time 5 got fired at the same time (due to the company not making enough money to keep them) My boss paid them a nice amount and helped them getting a new job (3 of the 5 now work for the same company).

anonymous2

Happy Canada Day, everyone!

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