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RPi Awesomeness

6:00 PM

Hrm. Bother.

Nathan Osman

Maybe try sending me one from the Gmail account itself so that we can determine exactly where the problem lies.

RPi Awesomeness

Strange, because you're showing up for me as another recipient in Gmail.

Done

Nathan Osman

And received :P

RPi Awesomeness

Strange. Must be the program.

Nathan Osman

:(

RPi Awesomeness

6:02 PM

Okay. More debugging. Eh, at least I know sorta what's causing it this time :)

kos

@terdon I've just checked it, thanks

Nathan Osman

Does Gmail even allow multiple recipients the way you're doing it?

Do the other senders show up in the To: field when the first person receives the message?

40

Q: How to send email to multiple recipints using python smtplib?

After much searching I couldn't find out how to use smtplib.sendmail to send to multiple recipients. The problem was every time the mail would be sent the mail headers would appear to contain multiple addresses, but in fact only the first recipient would receive the email. The problem seems to ...

RPi Awesomeness

Other senders?

Nathan Osman

Is it getting delivered to anybody when you use more than one recipient?

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah, the first person gets it.

Nathan Osman

6:07 PM

Does the first person see the other recipients in the To: field?

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah

Nathan Osman

Hrm...

RPi Awesomeness

Just sent another test email...

Gmail.com says that it's from me to you (I send it to myself as the first recipient, other people as the second)

Nathan Osman

Gmail has a button for viewing the source.

RPi Awesomeness

Just sent another with you as the first recipient

Nathan Osman

6:10 PM

Hey - something just came in.

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah, you were the first recipient that time

Nathan Osman

Ah :)

RPi Awesomeness

mail.google.com/mail/u/0/…

Nathan Osman

So there were two recipients and you were the second one?

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah, and I didn't get it

Nathan Osman

6:12 PM

It's showing two TO: headers in the email.

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah...

Nathan Osman

Subject: Test
From: key...@...
To: nathan@...
To: key...@...

RPi Awesomeness

Exactly...gotta figure out how to combine those so they work together correctly :P

Nathan Osman

Hrm...

RPi Awesomeness

I need a standing desk :P

Nathan Osman

6:15 PM

What happens if you stick "print(str(msg))" on line 73 right before the send() command?

The output of that might help us understand what's going on...

Oh wait a second.

I think I might have found it.

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============2748663055319586273=="
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Test
From: keyboardmailtesting@gmail.com
To: keyboardmailtesting@gmail.com, nathan@quickmediasolutions.com

--===============2748663055319586273==
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


Test
--===============2748663055319586273==
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<html><head></head><body><p>Test</p></body></html>

Nathan Osman

It looks like toaddrs needs to be a list, not a single ","-separated string.

RPi Awesomeness

It does. Problem is, if it is a list, then we get AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'encode'

Nathan Osman

Hrm...

Yeah, this is a weird one.

RPi Awesomeness

Yup :P

Nathan Osman

6:19 PM

Worst case scenario, though - you could just run send() yourself for each recipient.

RPi Awesomeness

...true, but lets hope that's not the solution

docs.python.org/3/library/email-examples.html

shows doing msg['To'] = COMMASPACE.join(family). COMMASPACE being COMMASPACE=', ' and family being a list I presume...

user136984

So what is this site? notwhoyouthinkitis.com

user136984

It's very odd...

user136984

I just had to before put it in a similar format to how it was given to me! :D :P

user136984

It's from a trusted source, I'm just wondering if they actually set up a website, or if their example just so happens to already exist! :D :P

RPi Awesomeness

6:27 PM

@NathanOsman Anything yet?

Nathan Osman

Sadly, no.

RPi Awesomeness

:(

This is so weird.

user136984

@NathanOsman: Actually, could you just please delete this message as I'm not actually too sure where the link goes and wouldn't want someone to click it! :D As the delete thing is no longer available as too much time has passed.

Nathan Osman

Done.

user136984

Thanks. :)

Nathan Osman

6:30 PM

I didn't know you couldn't delete your own messages after time has elapsed.

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah

mojo706

o/

Nathan Osman

That... really doesn't make any sense to me.

@mojo706 o/

mojo706

\o/

long time

looking for some help

user136984

@NathanOsman It's probably so that you can't just be really rude to everyone and then come back and remove it all! :D :P

mojo706

6:31 PM

on ruby

ByteCommander

@Toroidal Only mods can! >:)

Nathan Osman

@Toroidal That's all fine and well, but there are other reasons for wanting to remove stuff.

user136984

@ByteCommander Yeah, but we trust them! Don't we? ;D :P

ByteCommander

We ~~should~~ do...

mojo706

how long does it take to install ruby

user136984

6:32 PM

@NathanOsman Well, you can flag it up as a serious thing and leave a comment for moderators, but I didn't feel like doing that because it says to only do it for serious things.

mojo706

on ubuntu

Nathan Osman

@mojo706 Mere seconds depending on your connection speed.

@Toroidal Right.

mojo706

I have great speeds

but for some reason it takes too long

user136984

@NathanOsman: But they probably really should have a way of people deleting their own stuff later on, even if a moderator has to then review it and can undelete it.

Nathan Osman

Moderators can view history.

Although they also have the ability to purge it under extreme situations.

Eliah Kagan

6:36 PM

@A.B. I don't think you needed to delete your answer to that question; though I understand why @karel advised you to do so, I do not agree. Answers that offer the same solution but present and explain it in very different ways should not generally be considered duplicate answers.

Personally, I tend to write rather long answers myself, but I do recognize the value of a shorter, more concrete answer that focuses on what to do rather than on the why or how.

However, if you choose to undelete your answer, I recommend you correct it. The command wget -c http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.2/iso/openSUSE-13.2-DVD-x86_64.iso?‌mirrorlist does not work to download the ISO itself, it only downloads the HTML file listing the various available mirrors, but your answer was written in such a way as to suggest it downloaded the ISO.

Nathan Osman

@RPiAwesomeness: something came.

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman Quick, check your email.

\o/

We can haz party now.

mojo706

never mind

it completed

RPi Awesomeness

\o\ \o/ /o/

user136984

@RPiAwesomeness Why don't you give them legs too? ;D :P

RPi Awesomeness

6:39 PM

@NathanOsman Was it this:

Testing123
Does this work yet?

?

user136984

\O/

RPi Awesomeness

@Toroidal Too complicated.

user136984

|

Nathan Osman

@RPiAwesomeness Yesh.

user136984

\O/

RPi Awesomeness

6:39 PM

@Toroidal Poor guy looks like he was stung by a bee!

user136984

@RPiAwesomeness @NathanOsman: Stop messaging! I'm trying to make art here!

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman Well, just had to go the non-complicated method of for recip in recipients:

@Toroidal Well too bad! :D

user136984

\O/

user136984

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Nathan Osman

Meh, just do this:

ByteCommander

6:40 PM

@Toroidal Multiline messages maybe? (Shift+Enter)

@NathanOsman That hurts my eyes... :P ;)

Nathan Osman

Your eyes are sensitive :P

RPi Awesomeness

Wow.

@ByteCommander That was my thought, multiline

ByteCommander

\ o /
  O
 | |

user136984

¬|\O/
¬|=|=|
¬| /---\

ByteCommander

Looks somehow disabled...

Nathan Osman

6:41 PM

Prefix each line with four spaces.

user136984

@ByteCommander He's in bed! ;D :P

Nathan Osman

Then you get a fixed-width font.

user136984

¬|\O/
¬|=|=|
¬| /---\

ByteCommander

@Toroidal WUT?

user136984

Look:

user136984

6:42 PM

¬|\O/
¬|=|=|
¬| /---\

ByteCommander

Who has a bed hanging on the wall?

Nathan Osman

An astronaut?

user136984

What he said!

user136984

;D :P

user136984

How am I supposed to make it rotate like a real bed?!

user136984

6:45 PM

By the way...

ByteCommander

@Toroidal Look how pros do this:

                     __.--'|
              ___.---'      |
      ___.---'              |
 _.--'   %%%        \\\     |
 |      %%%%%       .. |    |
 |     %%c ''       U. '    |
 J      %! .U       __=__   |
  L     __=__      |     \  |
  L    /     \     |.    \\-`-.
  |   // _) _)._.--||\    \\__.>-._
  | _.\\     ||    \\___.--'       `--._
  J-._ \\_____.----'                    `--.__
  J   `-<_                                    `-.__
   L      `-.                                     _>-.

user136984

What are people's opinions about the strange guy who comes out of the bath dancing here (you only have to watch 15 seconds):

user136984

PSY - HANGOVER feat. Snoop Dogg M/V

►

user136984

;D :P

user136984

The stuff YouTube puts me through to watch Rock...

user136984

6:46 PM

:D :D :P

RPi Awesomeness

You know you've been programming too much when you start to referring to printed out copies of the Python documentation with their own names...

user136984

And that's not the worst of it...

user136984

The nude adverts...

user136984

The cat adverts...

user136984

Oh my god... How much longer will I last?!

user136984

6:48 PM

:D

user136984

:P

user136984

Seriously though...

ByteCommander

@Toroidal If you're offended by that, I have to admit Fabby was right...

user136984

Why these adverts I can't skip before my Iron Maiden videos?

A.B.

@karel @EliahKagan It's ok if I undelete my answer? askubuntu.com/a/614950/367165

RPi Awesomeness

6:48 PM

Nude adverts on YT? o.O

Nathan Osman

@RPiAwesomeness: it came.

user136984

@ByteCommander I'm not offended by them... But they get a bit much! Especially when the people in them are really ugly! ;D :P

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman Awesome. We've well and truly fixed it! :D

ByteCommander

Okay, that I can understand...

Just use ABP.

You're on Firefox now, so use it! :)

user136984

There are so many viruses pretending to be it that I couldn't actually find it! :D

ByteCommander

6:50 PM

I never saw any advert on any YT video in my whole life.... >:]

user136984

Could you give me the link please for the actual add-on? :)

Eliah Kagan

@A.B. I do still recommend editing to either clarify what your command does or change it to download the ISO itself. Besides that I think it's a useful answer that will help people and can coexist just fine with karel's more extensive answer.

ByteCommander

Oh come on!

Seth

I agree.

ByteCommander

Go to the add-on centre and search for adblock plus.

The red STOP sign.

user136984

6:51 PM

Ok

ByteCommander

There are no virus clones.

RPi Awesomeness

@Toroidal Try using uBlock. It's lighter on the computer than ABP and supposedly doesn't allow ads from certain companies like ABP does.

Seth

btw, do people think these two questions are the same?

6

Q: Show BSSID of an access point?

I want to get the BSSID for a known SSID, how can I do that? Thanks :-)

wireless

6

Q: Get MAC address of a network access point

How can I find out what the MAC address (BSSID) of the wireless access point I'm connected to is?

wireless

user136984

But seriously, just now I was put through this:

user136984

C Boy - Come Closer ft Romel

►

user136984

6:52 PM

Some very odd POP... That comes as an advert too... That you can't skip!

user136984

Not really nude like the other stuff...

Seth

I closed one as a dupe but I'm not entirely sure they are the same. The wording if the first seems to imply that he wants to get BSSIDs of access points he is not connected to.

user136984

But see through underwear! Seriously?!

user136984

On ugly people?!

user136984

And it's so long and, oh my god... No more!

ByteCommander

6:53 PM

@Seth Are there different answers for "for a known SSID" and for "for the access point I am connected to"?

Or do all answers work on both scenarios?

Eliah Kagan

@Seth In that case, the one that's still open would just be a more general version of the one that's closed, right?

@Toroidal uBlock.

@Toroidal ABP

They both work.

I never tried uBlock, so I can't recommend it...

user136984

6:54 PM

I'll try ABP first, and if that doesn't work then the other.

RPi Awesomeness

uBlock is just a little lighter.

Seth

@EliahKagan yes, I believe so.

ByteCommander

Btw who of you is using DuckDuckGo?

RPi Awesomeness

ABP will work, I was just offering an lighter alternative if you wanted it. Either one is just fine.

Eliah Kagan

@ByteCommander I think if you're not connected to it, then some of the answers won't apply. And some answers seem specifically targeted to the scenario where you're not connected, such as Rinzwind's answer.

user136984

6:55 PM

@ByteCommander I mostly use it.

RPi Awesomeness

@ByteCommander I try to, but I quite often have to go to Google to get what I want (via !g)

Seth

@ByteCommander I'm not entirely sure, but I'm trying to find out right now.

A.B.

@EliahKagan improved askubuntu.com/a/614950/367165

ByteCommander

Well, I am considering to replace Google with the Duck...

user136984

I prefer DDG because the images are direct links to the actual content, so that I don't have to copy out the URL to scan them! :D

ByteCommander

6:56 PM

>.<

Seth

Ok, sudo iwlist scanning shows all visible access points.

ByteCommander

One does NOT scan any image link he sees!

user136984

DuckDuckGo is actually much better.

user136984

And also hosts that RoboDuck thing that that JamesKayla guy was going on about! ;D :P

user136984

It turns out that they actually made it!

RPi Awesomeness

6:57 PM

sigh You really are ParanoidPanda. Goodness.

user136984

@RPiAwesomeness What? Why?

Eliah Kagan

@A.B. Looks good to me. I just upvoted both answers (yours and karel's) btw.

RPi Awesomeness

@Toroidal Scanning image links, always talking about rootkit scanners, talking about people constantly trying to hack you...

A.B.

@EliahKagan thx :)

ByteCommander

Created just for you to remember! >:)

user136984

7:00 PM

@RPiAwesomeness People are not constantly trying to hack me, I have a little too much paranoia with viruses and rootkits, and it's just unfortunate that someone is actually hacking me now! :D :P

ByteCommander

So just learn to hack and hack back.

RPi Awesomeness

lol, this ^

Backtrack his booty.

ByteCommander

Get yourself Kali. Backtrack is dead.

Nathan Osman

Is wolframalpha.com down for anyone else?

RPi Awesomeness

Or that.

@NathanOsman It redirects to an address vendor page for me.

user136984

7:01 PM

The problem is though that the network protocol used has never been cracked, and neither has the encryption.

Nathan Osman

@RPiAwesomeness Sorry, typo :P

user136984

So I don't know what they are saying to my machine! :D

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman Nope, all good.

ByteCommander

user136984

@ByteCommander Well... I'm scanning that one! >:D :P

Nathan Osman

7:02 PM

@RPiAwesomeness Weird. It's really really slow for me.

RPi Awesomeness

Hmm

The NSA man. They're everywhere :D

Eliah Kagan

@NathanOsman Oh. It must have been misspelled in their vhosts configuration or something. Anyway, it loads now.

user136984

But the person who is hacking me I sort of know, so it's a personal thing, so... :(

RPi Awesomeness

o.O

user136984

Although, unless they are using another one of their servers, they have taken a break now! :D

user136984

7:04 PM

Or have just mastered the art of being invisible!

Nathan Osman

[cough] firewall [cough]

ByteCommander

@Toroidal A reason more to hack back!

This even gives you the ability to attack on more ways than just blindly through the internet.

user136984

@NathanOsman Firstly, I don't know what the IPs are of the other servers. And secondly it's going through Skype which avoids firewalls. And I have tried blocking the normal IP in firewall settings, but it does nothing. But I have checked and this is not usual Skype activity and with my current configuration this should not be happening, plus the traffic is suspicious and it's actually talking with my machine...

ByteCommander

Skype... is... supposed... to talk?

Nathan Osman

Skype is a whole 'nother beast.

user136984

7:07 PM

With my current configuration it should not be communicating and receiving instructions from a server directly.

ByteCommander

Then kill skype and use Tox!

user136984

My machine shouldn't actually be connecting directly at all, it should be connecting through other machines, so the fact that it is a direct connection should not be.

ByteCommander

Would be a good decision anyway.

user136984

@ByteCommander What is Tox?

user136984

And is it as secure?

ByteCommander

7:08 PM

More secure!

user136984

How do I get it?

ByteCommander

wiki.tox.im/Main_Page

Here are binary downloads and repository setup script:

wiki.tox.im/Binaries

user136984

Thanks! :)

user136984

Also, if I change my username what does that change?

user136984

Because for a month I am thinking about changing it to "ParanoidPanda"! ;D :P

ByteCommander

7:13 PM

It's still in beta though...

@Toroidal Username in Tox?

(btw I recommend the qTox client as I am using it myself)

Away for diner. BRB

Eliah Kagan

@ByteCommander I set DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine, but half the reason is that I like its ! commands (like !g, !b, !wa). I only search the web via DuckDuckGo, rather than using it as a convenient redirecting portal to other searches, a little over half the time.

mojo706

but Google still has better answer IMHO

I use DDG but sometimes I have to use Google to find "better answers"

Eliah Kagan

Yeah I often end up using Google, via DuckDuckGo, with !g. :) The only advantage of this over just searching Google directly is that it's easy for me to type. On some of my systems I mainly use Chromium or Chrome, which makes it easy to search different engines/sites from the search bar (type the first few letters of the site you want and press Tab). But for some reason typing !g seems more natural for me than typing g<Tab>. It's also easy to add ! commands to a previous search.

mojo706

yeah I know what you mean

user136984

7:38 PM

@ByteCommander No, I mean on AU! ;D :P

ByteCommander

@Toroidal Oh. You can do.

@Toroidal See.

I am not ByteCommander any more...

@Toroidal Alive?

@Toroidal... :-/

@Toroidal Btw did you already install qTox?

Son of a Wolf

8:09 PM

He's gone. So I'm morphing back to ByteCommander now...

Oops...

Why is there a limit for one change per month now?

Hey, I want to change back! >:P

Son of a Wolf

8:23 PM

@Seth May I ask you to change my AU name back, please? I did not know of the 30days limit...

I have to log out now for today. Please may some moderator change it back? Thank you!

Nathan Osman

@SonofaWolf That limit has been in place for years, it's not something new.

Seth

@SonofaWolf I will do it this once, but that's just because I'm extra nice ;)

Usually you just have to sit it out.

Nathan Osman

Lesson #917: never choose a username that you wouldn't want to carry with you for 30 days.

hbdgaf

8:38 PM

^^ that

Seth

I'm sure @hbdgaf knows that quite well eh? ;P

9:39 PM

Hrm... my build master is down :(

Aha. Permissions problem.

Predictions for naming Ubuntu 15.10, anyone?

RPi Awesomeness

Oh, it's totally gonna be Sarcastic Sarlacc

For sure.

Or maybe Stupendous Sarlacc, I think that one works better.

Nathan Osman

It must start with "W".

RPi Awesomeness

Oh?

Nathan Osman

Yeah, we've been going in alphabetical order here.

RPi Awesomeness

Oh. I did not know that!

Nathan Osman

9:53 PM

14.04 - Trusty Tahr
14.10 - Utopic Unicorn
15.04 - Vivid Vervet

RPi Awesomeness

Wondrous Wombat.

Nathan Osman

I'm going to guess Whimsical Wallaby.

RPi Awesomeness

Not bad.

Yeah, I like Whimsical. Perhaps Whimsical Woodchuck? :D

But yeah, I'd definitely put more money on Whimsical Wallaby than anything else.

Wait! We could do Warty Warthog again! :D

Nathan Osman

Noooooo!

RPi Awesomeness

But in a whimsical, joking manner of course :)

Winsome Wallaroo?

Nathan Osman

10:00 PM

Let's see if I can find what I had earlier...

Jan 15 '14 at 6:26, by Nathan Osman

More likely Wayward Walrus :P

RPi Awesomeness

lol :D

Nathan Osman

That was over a year ago...

RPi Awesomeness

Well, I should get to work designing a Wallaby wallpaper now.

:)

@NathanOsman If Whimsical Wallaby turns out to be it...we might just have to throw an internet party!

Nathan Osman

:)

Seth

10:14 PM

I think it'll be either a Wallaby or a Walrus. But knowing Mark it might be something a bit more exotic. Or it might not.

I started a thread about it on discourse!

Mateo

Yay, got the new TV computer working 1080 over HDMI!

RPi Awesomeness

Cool! :D

Nathan Osman

\o/

Mateo

And used my last dome sticker ;)

RPi Awesomeness

\o\ \o/ /o/

Mateo

10:29 PM

So this risevision thing is going to be really nice

risevision.com < what I'm now trying out, going to use

Plus I just had the computer set up its own simple file server, so it uses its own pictures ( going around paying for cloud storage) more complicated, but I can at least demo pictures before the pay to make it easy

Seth

Sweet @Mateo!

Huh, I keep getting into Spanish layout somehow.. not like I press super+space that often. Weird.

Mateo

Bet that would make a neat snap app...

hbdgaf

10:58 PM

And I haz new wallpaper :)

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