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hbdgaf

12:08 AM

@Mateo giving it a listen

RPi Awesomeness

I simply can not speak correctly and, thus I can't work on this stupid Elementary OS video :P

I am most maddened

Mateo

Oh, that an found a reddit on it

m.webupd8.org/2015/04/…

So sounds like a great thing for multiple versions of a framework, plus apps just get updated - no more "I don't have chrome 44" and no extra ppa's

hbdgaf

It sounds great to have as a feature, but not so great to have for everything.

Chan-Ho Suh

12:28 AM

anybody have any thoughts on this? amazon.com/How-Linux-Works-Superuser-Should

RPi Awesomeness

@Mateo ikr. Sounds awesome

Mateo

@hbdgaf yeah, we will see I guess - might start out nice as a "let's do a chromebook style thing, then expand"

@Chan-HoSuh the page is gone on my end strange

hbdgaf

@Mateo I mean, it seems like a good idea. If most of the packages stay re-wrapped debs, I'm for it. The last thing we need is a new package format that makes people choose. If you can package a deb and it doesn't do anything really odd - then there's a convert button. It seems valid.

He was looking for this

Mateo

Yeah, in the interview that is how it sounded - from a once things get going and they build the convert tool - I'm jut thinking it has to start somewhere and it might be rocky at first

But Ubuntu has always just plowed on through those types of problems, so I'm not worried about that as much

Chan-Ho Suh

@hbdgaf thanks, how's it going?

any python devs here interested in working in NYC?

hbdgaf

12:37 AM

@Chan-HoSuh more of the same. playing with some things. still doing jobs you wouldn't expect me to be doing. getting easier though. slowly, but surely.

Mateo

Ooo, I have a book from them

hbdgaf

@Mateo Heh, yeah. I'm wondering if it's only going to be on Unity desktop or if it's going to wind up in all the "official" desktops eventually

Mateo

hbdgaf

@Chan-HoSuh moving to nyc would grossly exaggerate my cost of living. just for giggles, doing what?

Chan-Ho Suh

@hbdgaf I see Python is a top tag for you

hbdgaf

12:39 AM

I play with it a bit.

@Mateo They also put out THE IDA book.

Mateo

I like shell scripts ;)

Chan-Ho Suh

@hbdgaf the salary would be adjusted to accommodate the cost of living. The gist of it is greenfield development using a proprietary Python-based language, building out a financial analysis framework that will be used by the firm's top executives to inform their capital allocation decisions

hbdgaf

You can't be serious.

@Mateo ^^

Mateo

Wow, that sounds like a great fit

Chan-Ho Suh

hehe

Mateo

12:43 AM

He was just working on something like that...

hbdgaf

I still have a few commits to make to remove some of the spaghetti monster and make it do more of what I want it to... but that's scary similar to my hobby project.

Chan-Ho Suh

hmm not sure if I've missed a joke here :)

hbdgaf

Same here.

I've been working on a layer for pandas and talib to do all the technical analysis stuff as precomputes. Find a target set. Do some level of stastical favorability for each TA brick. Then restack them over and over until you find the best set of conditions yet. Repeat ad nauseam ad infinitum. Different goal. A lot of the same tools. The precompute bit is to help the computer learn which conditions are most favorable.

Mateo

chat.stackexchange.com/… < chat transcript for @hbdgaf saying "pandas"

hbdgaf

It misses the initial inspiration of pistolero panditos though.

Chan-Ho Suh

12:50 AM

huh, your project sounds pretty interesting

Mateo

oh, yeah ;) that was an important bit - always have to have a good name

hbdgaf

It's fun. I tend to make progress in waves. The most recent bet was doing both CSV and SQL of the same data set. That way I can both manipulate it and do precomputes across many rows at one and search it more easily.

Chan-Ho Suh

hmm, so you not interested in moving to New York?

hbdgaf

I'm right at paying my annual lot rent. If I'm going to make a move, I need to do it closer to end of year or I'm flushing money down the toilet... That and I'ld have to do some research to find parks for campers in the NY area.

Chan-Ho Suh

well, typically the firm will recoup all your moving expenses plus

hbdgaf

12:56 AM

That would make it a lot more possible. I still need to look at areas I could drag my wobbly box to though.

Chan-Ho Suh

a lot of people just commute in

hbdgaf

Yeah, that's what I mean. Not NYC proper, but park somewhere and catch a train. I did do Chicago once.

Chan-Ho Suh

yeah < 1 hr should be feasible if you want to commute from a camper park

anyway, I should mention before this goes on further, it's not a T-shirt jeans kind of place

hbdgaf

That would be do-able. For my first two months in Chicago, I commuted from South Bend, Indiana (3 hrs) and slept on the train.

Chan-Ho Suh

financial services -- you don't have to wear a suit usually but that might happen on occasion

hbdgaf

12:58 AM

@Chan-HoSuh I don't own a suit any more, but I did interview in one... and wore one to work without hating it.

The latter bit is probably more important. I don't hate wearing them. I just don't unless I actually need to.

you saw it?

I missed it

;p

Was grabbing a monster.

got it

pinged

Chan-Ho Suh

don't need to be formal in the email... we can chat and see if you're into what the position is, before we start bringing in the boss, HR, etc

cool, you got the idea :D

hbdgaf

1:02 AM

:)

Yeah, I really need some time fixing some stuff I have on github if it's ever going to get that far. Someone would totally find some of the wing-it code and go geez bro... what were you thinking

@Chan-HoSuh If there's a similar complexity python code-base to look at, not your proprietary product of course, but something of similar complexity... it would be a good thing for me to look at, so I don't jump in to a fire I can't put out or dance on without knowing it -- that would be good.

Chan-Ho Suh

well, given my experience with the hiring process, I'd say the boss is less interested in looking over the particulars of your github

he's half business and half tech management

it might be better just prepping basic interview questions... the kind that are annoying to answer like "what's your greatest weakness" lol

well, one guy might start asking you C puzzlers if you put C on your resume :D

hbdgaf

Heh. Good to know. I'm middling to good at those.

@Chan-HoSuh I wouldn't put C on the resume if it were a python job.

Chan-Ho Suh

good :) I think our team tries to avoid real "gotchas" but sometimes a question can end up being one, I guess

hbdgaf

I'm atrocious at C unless I have google and time... And I'll own that ;)

Chan-Ho Suh

heh

hmmm, let me think about the Python code base thing

I don't know if I would worry too much about that... basically there's only two guys that will ask you really technical questions, and one of them is me

the other people will mainly be checking fit, seeing what makes you tick... and what has turned out to be key: whether you can work with users without being weird or pissing them off

hbdgaf

1:16 AM

@Chan-HoSuh Yes. I like to see where I'm considering jumping. It's not that I want to ace the interview. It's that I don't want to overpromise and underdeliver - then wind up wandering the streets of NYC as a hobo.

Chan-Ho Suh

apparently one guy was really promising but he refused to look anyone in the eyes

yeah, let me send you my sales pitch tonight :)

well, I think sometimes these stories get exaggerated... my general experience is you'd have to really do something atrocious to end up the way you are envisioning

hbdgaf

@Chan-HoSuh wut? I tend to follow social norms on that one. I tend to look down when embarrassed or avoiding saying something that would be worse than looking down, make eye contact the rest of the time. You know what I mean.

Chan-Ho Suh

well, this guy never bothered with any eye contact

hbdgaf

@Chan-HoSuh Well, my situation just started to get a little stable. So, it's a fear-ish thing.

Chan-Ho Suh

I don't want to downplay the risks, but really, it's not that kind of place

hbdgaf

1:18 AM

Also, I have really bad teeth - if that's going to freak anyone out.

Chan-Ho Suh

probably the biggest risk is you get bored or overwhelmed by all the meetings

haha

lol, I don't know what to say to the teeth thing

hbdgaf

The biggest problem with meetings is when they take SO much time that they get in the way of having the time to do the job, but I'm not sure you're talking about that.

Chan-Ho Suh

no, I'm talking about that exactly

the good news is the role is a developer role... they will try to keep that away from you as much as feasible

but it will still happen

hbdgaf

Yeah, it's bound to happen.

Chan-Ho Suh

they've been very good about keeping that away from me

my meeting have generally been constructive

hbdgaf

1:21 AM

As long as everyone present either learns something or says something constructive - they all needed to be there. If you're in neither party more than half the time - then it's a waste of time. <-- what I think about meetings.

Chan-Ho Suh

well, good news

the boss agrees with you 150%

there's still a lot of meetings :D

hbdgaf

:D

FWIW - It's definitely an interesting possibility.

Either way, you know how to get up with me on or off channel now. Headed out for a bit, but you can hit me up when you want to.

Chan-Ho Suh

sure

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Seth

3:42 AM

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muru

4:29 AM

@Seth pkexec can have a timeout, it just isn't enabled by default

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