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12:01 PM

@A.B. It is ok. I did not notice that you had an answer there once. I just found this comment by muru and did as he requested. It's up to you.

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Q: How to change desktop background colour in GNOME?

I am running Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 with GNOME 3.18, and I have set an image as my desktop background, it has a white bit around it, however when I set it to be "Spanned" on my desktop in the GNOME Tweak Tool it is put in the middle with two big black bits next to it: So how can I make those black...

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Can anyone help me with this? :)

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Find something to VTC this for please. >:P

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@A.B.: Do you know what I mean with my question by the way? :)

@ParanoidPanda Yes and I've also tried. So far without success. In any case it does not work with the settings in the GUI.

@ParanoidPanda run dconf-editor and search for something like background, perhaps you have luck.

Or use a bigger image =)

12:08 PM

If everything goes according to the plans I'll be the second to be awarded the bronze text-processing badge after @terdon. :)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: filesystem for /var partition

I am installing a fresh Ubuntu 15.10 on my laptop with /, /home, /var and swap partitions. I would like to know what filesystem is required for /var. As per this archlinux page, I feel ReiserFS is the filesystem with which I need to format /var. Please confirm. Obviously for / and /home, its the...

ubuntu filesystems system-installation reiserfs

@kos =)

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What is Hex for White?

FFFFFF?

o_O

LOL

sorry

@A.B. \o/

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12:11 PM

Doesn't work... :(

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Modest achievement, I know, but I'm happy about it. I like that badge. :D

This is wired incorrectly in my head.

The white-color-hex-thing =)

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@A.B.: What is the "use-background-color key"?

Move to Meta: askubuntu.com/questions/699133/…

12:17 PM

@kos Woah, I'm the only one who has it? Cool! :)

@terdon Yes, I envy that. Hopefully you'll be busy enough on U&L so that I can get the first silver one!

@kos Nice, I am on 997 on commandline <3

Heh, I'm still chuffed that I got the gold command-lione one.

@Rinzwind Ah ha! >:)

@terdon tsk :=D 3 more to go

and 60x200 away from legendary :=)

oli is 28x200 away from it :*

OK, I will not upvote this one:

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A: Which terminal does Ubuntu use?

gnome-terminal

:P

12:22 PM

@Rinzwind @A.B. is 3x200 away from it! >:D

@terdon it so totally answer the question and anything more would be obsolete >:)

I remember I had to make it a link to get it posted _o-

who is that serial upvoter? :P

Whops.

Not too many though and they all deserved it.

I'm not guilty! ;) But I only have 4 more votes anyway...

BRB, restarting lightdm...

@Rinzwind One was mine :D can't wait for 03:00 UTC huh? :)

(or is it 5:00 UTC?)

@ParanoidPanda I downvoted and voted to close it !

12:38 PM

@cl-netbox Ah?

you flagged?

o_O

first time?

@Ravan yes first time ! He should stick with Windows and not be destructive here !

@A.B. I just rebooted after the edit but still the guest account gets assigned UID 121 or something like that. :-(

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@cl-netbox: You've got to 10k...? :D

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Wow!

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Congratulations!

12:44 PM

@ParanoidPanda yes - today ...

@ParanoidPanda Thank you very much ! :)

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Oh dear, I'm a bit behind then I guess! :D

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I better get cracking!

Congrats @cl-netbox!

Guys why did you vote to close that question? It is not a bug report at all.

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Q: Why is Ubuntu's main search feature so ineffective?

At least for me it is. When I click on the Search your computer and online sources icon in the top left corner and type a file I want to find, and type a file, for example for me, Casino Royale, it will just look up stuff online, so I then have to go to filters and click on Files and Folders. O...

unity files search

@kos Thank you ! :)

12:50 PM

Yes, the OP was not polite but he describes a real issue with a perfectly good solution (don't use the unity search for this). Why close it? There is no bug.

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@terdon: There should be a close reason that tells you you need to be more polite then. >:P

There is, it's the "edit" button.

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Yeah, but the guy was still rude in his comment to me.

I don't think it was particularly impolite in this particular revision. It has been edited a couple of times. Conversely, I do think it's a performance/feature-request bug to improve the performance of a particular feature. I don't think that means it needs the close-hammer, since there is an answer with a workaround, but I do think it is legitimately a bug. To be clear, I didn't touch the question at all. For questions with voting patterns that complex, I just stay away.

@ParanoidPanda Huh? Where? This is the only comment I see:

I have no idea what you're talking about. I am new to Ubuntu. — Martin Wilson 1 hour ago

And, anyway, that's no reason to vote to close with a close reason that doesn't apply.

12:55 PM

If they ever went rude that was here: askubuntu.com/questions/699133/…

@hbdgaf Not really a bug, why? It's more about "1. Is this normal?" and "2. How do I find my files, then"?

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@kos: It was deleted so I can't see it, could you post a screenshot or something?

@terdon I agree they didn't call it out as a bug, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was better behavior implemented in the future. So, I agree it's not just whining about it. I do read the problem as a bug though.

@kos Yup, that one is bad. Still, that's another post. I can understand not wanting to help the OP but closing with the wrong reason affects the site, not only the OP. It seems like a legitimate issue for uinty users and it would be nice to have an answer here.

@hbdgaf Oh sure, but then I consider the entire unity DE to be a big bug :P

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You made me lol. I actually laughed out loud.

12:58 PM

@terdon Sure. Don't look at me though, I didn't vote. :D

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@terdon: Which DE do you use then?

@ParanoidPanda Comment 1: "Losers, get a life hey. How about doing something better than down voting people's questions", comment 2: "You people that down vote peoples questions are absolute w*****s."

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Oh dear... :D

@kos That one should have been migrated to meta with a conversation instead of just vote hammering and closing.

@ParanoidPanda Cinnamon at the moment.

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1:00 PM

@kos: "Woosies"?

@ParanoidPanda More British.

^^ I was going to say exactly that

wa****s should give it to you easily.

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Hmm... What is the next letter?

@hbdgaf What? warbles?

Oh, FFS, it's wankers!

@terdon - you're on a roll today.

1:02 PM

:)

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@terdon: Hmm... I'm not sure of the exact meaning of that, could you give a brief explanation?

@hbdgaf Indeed, I voted to migrate, but OP deleted it before it was moved. I also downvoted for the rudeness in the comments, although that would have been reversed by the migration.

@ParanoidPanda No, what's a woosie BTW?

@ParanoidPanda On a roll. When someone does something consistently. Like make jokes I find to be funny. Or solve problems one after the other. Or anything else really. Just doing something over and over again in rapid succession.

@ParanoidPanda No, but you can look it up. :)

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@hbdgaf: I know that, I pinged the wrong person! :D

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1:06 PM

@terdon: Now I'm starting to wish I hadn't... DuckDuckGo decided it wanted to show me images as an instant answer immediately...

@kos Votes aren't affected by migration. Unless migration to meta is a special case. I remember upvoting a question on U&L, migrating it to a site where it was a better fit and being able to upvote it on the target site again.

@ParanoidPanda Ok don't bother, I've found it on Urban Dictionary. :D

@ParanoidPanda you seriously didn't know the word? Aren't you British?

wordnik.com/words/wanker

It was an extremely common word when I lived in the UK. Granted that was more than a decade ago, but still.

@terdon I'm pretty sure I've seen downvoted question being resetted to 0 after migration on Meta (they got downvoted there as well afterwards, but that's another thing)

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@kos: I thought it was another way of writing aussie... :D

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1:08 PM

Woosie that is...

@kos You are correct and it shows his real opinion on ubuntu (community) - such as his comment under the answer of @ByteCommander : Id have to rate Ubuntu's search feature a 0 and give that aspect as a win for Windows and loss for Ubuntu ... so nothing constructive to see for me !

@ParanoidPanda About "on a roll": The Offspring - Hit that

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@terdon: The only other place I heard it was on a comedy stand up show which talked about it in relation to baked beans... That's all I remember...

> I'm on a roll, with all the girls I know,...

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Hmm... Sounds like a bad song, I don't think I'll look... :P

1:10 PM

@ParanoidPanda It's not bad. And it has no video, just lyrics.

@cl-netbox Indeed, some people just come here to let out their frustration for something rather than for asking a question about it.

And the official video is an animated guy on a skateboard/bike and his dog.

Official video: dailymotion.com/video/x2c9rn_the-offspring-hit-that_music

@kos the reason for my very first VTC ...

@ParanoidPanda Seriously? Do you never leave your house or something? It really is a very, very common word.

Even non-natives know that... :P

1:13 PM

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@ByteCommander I know that one! Nice song! (sorry for the pings)

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@terdon: What are the baked beans about?

@ParanoidPanda Flatulence, usually.

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I think I heard it on a baked beans advert too...

@ParanoidPanda Not the kind of thing you'd hear in an add, I don't think.

But very common in movies.

1:14 PM

>.< :D

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@terdon: Hmm... I don't think I watch those kind of movies... :P

I only watch them for the articles.

@terdon I don't know the blue word. But I better don't enter it into DuckDuckGo search! :D

Pretty much any British movie or series will probably use the word at some point. It really is quite common.

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oh tosser is a synonun for wanker?

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1:16 PM

@terdon But I don't think that that was it, as I seem to remember, the reference was more sexual and much to do with that word that we recently spoke about.

@JourneymanGeek Yup

bunting tosser [naut.] == der Signalflaggenmann

@ParanoidPanda do you go to school are are you home schooled?

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I go to school.

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But it doesn't seem to be a very common word.

1:17 PM

Then I am really confused. Either the current slang has really changed or you are way out of touch with your own vocabulary :)

@Oli this isn't just my own dirty mouth right? Both words are very common in the UK, yeah?

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@terdon: No, it's just you! ;P

Shh, I wasn't asking you. :P

@terdon Fairly, common, yeah. They're both strong swear words here. Wanker is very much less strong in Oz though.

(where "less strong" means, they're much happier to use it for silly little things, while we'll just use it when we're being stabbed, or playing football)

Yeah, I'm not saying it's the kind of thing you'd read in the papers but certainly something you'd hear in the school yard or a movie.

Sure

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1:20 PM

I don't speak nor know a lot of slang though, and don't really want to...

@ParanoidPanda yes it is :=) but British only and most will hear the American version ;=)

@ParanoidPanda Shame, there are some wonderful slang words in all languages.

@ParanoidPanda ah but do you pay attention at school :=)

And I don't only mean swearwords.

@terdon klootzak in dutch >:)

1:21 PM

@ParanoidPanda Where do you live ?

for a none dutch that word has 2 hard syllables :D

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@hg8: Somewhere in England... As @terdon will be able to tell you, I'm not exactly too sure where... :P

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Just not in the North...

:)

He thinks that England is in Africa.

@ParanoidPanda You could ask about that.

1:23 PM

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Q: Isn't it counterproductive to have systemd, upstart and init.d all running at the same time in a system?

I've been reading about the many different start up methods on boot by Ubuntu. And it's great that things are moving forward, but right now we have three different ways to start processes on boot, all running at once. Isn't this counterproductive? Wouldn't it be much faster and efficient if there...

upstart systemd init.d

When did you stop beating your wife?

good answer >:)

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@terdon: You serious? It's really hot there! And very cold where I am right now! :P

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@muru right before you stopped beating yours.

;p

OH CRAP

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No, all I said was I thought Turkey was above Russia... Well, up to the left that is...

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1:25 PM

:D

666k views Installing Broadcom Wireless Drivers
WE ARE DOOMED

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@ParanoidPanda depends on how you look at the earth :+)

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@Rinzwind: You are right! Take that @terdon! >:P

@ParanoidPanda South Africa gets pretty cold in their winter as well... :P

@ByteCommander I will check the script later again.

@ParanoidPanda Tell me something to convince me to not star that blunder. :D

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1:28 PM

@kos: If you do, more people might believe it... :P

@A.B. Thank you!

@kos Do you know anything about regex?

@Rinzwind starred!

@ParanoidPanda Weak. :D

@Fabby I think so. Shoot it

This is what I tried: @kos

grep --regexp="\t\t$" *.txt

I actually need to find 12 tabs and a carriage-return-newline...

and remove those lines from the text, but I'm stuck at the regular expression...

@ByteCommander what's the prefix of your lightdm configuration? Try a lower or higher number.

1:32 PM

@A.B. I am confused

@Fabby grep -Ev '\t{12}\r$' *.txt

No, why?

@kos trying...

What number do you mean?

For example, if you want to override the system configured default session (provided in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-ubuntu.conf) you should make a file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-myconfig.conf

1:33 PM

@kos seems to work...

@Fabby However if you want to remove those maybe you're better off with sed

Now I'm figuring out why it works!

@kos It's a job I'm doing that eventually has to run on Windows...

@Fabby windows line breaks?

@kos so doing it on myu machine first and then translating it to windows...

@A.B. yes

@ByteCommander do you now understand? :)

1:35 PM

@Fabby Ah ok. In Windows you'll have to remove the carriage return from the pattern, as it's included in the anchor ($)

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Have there ever been any problematic users in this chat room by the way? As everything usually seems pretty calm in here unlike some of the other chat rooms that I've been in.

@kos Yup! ;-) It now looks like:

grep --extended-regexp --invert-match '\t{12}\r$' 5.txt

@ParanoidPanda Ever? Sure.

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@Oli: Have I just been lucky and missed them then?

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Well, all except my ducky guy...

1:37 PM

@Oli I would even go as far as saying that the most problematic user in the chat room here right now is @ParanoidPanda!!!

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:D

;-)

@kos thanks again! Now transforming to windows

@ParanoidPanda It's been at least a couple of years since we've had a serious problem. We're a little more experienced at spotting and dealing with people before they become a serious problem too now, I'd guess.

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@Oli: What would count as a "serious problem" then?

@Fabby Np! However if you want to edit in place maybe you're better off with something like that: sed -i -E '/\t{12}\r$/d' *.txt instead of using sponge or unholy redirections to process in-place

1:41 PM

@ParanoidPanda It's usually just less serious problems left to run amok. New users don't understand the tone, feel the need to fill the room up with junk, derail existing conversations, call people things. None of that is enough to get you kicked out for good, but if you explain that to people, they either explode (and you ban them) or they accept it and have a long and fulfilling existence in here.

@kos I'm on a machine that doesn't even have grep and no additional utilities can be installed, so I'll have to use findstr

(standard utility)

@A.B. But I edited /usr/sbin/guest-account. There's no number and I was not able to find any configuration file referencing this script yet.

@Fabby findstr ? That's a new one

@ParanoidPanda And Stack Exchange didn't always have the "be nice" provision in the rules. That was just on Ask Ubuntu (as part of the Ubuntu Code of Conduct's be respectful clause)... So other sites' users could be a problem in here too... But the same process worked.

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@Oli: So you've had worse in here than my ducky guy? I guess you would have done, and I've just been lucky to miss the rest...

1:43 PM

@ByteCommander meh, sorry

Also hello from snowy Denver. Im on my way to work because i need my pacheckz

@Fabby Ah, I see. Never heard of that either, but I'm not a pro.

@Serg that is the linux version of the android app grindr >:)

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@Oli it hasn't?

@JourneymanGeek No, that's quite new

1:44 PM

@Serg Is it snowing right now?

@ByteCommander ok, perhaps I'm wrong.

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Q: The NEW new "Be Nice" Policy ("Code of Conduct") — Updated with your feedback

Update: Thanks for all the additional feedback below. We incorporated a lot of your suggestions, and this is going live (as http://meta.stackexchange.com/help/be-nice). We're also looking at ways to get this in front of more new users when they sign up, to help them start off on the right foot...

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Sorry, wrong new

Yeah, and it's a liy of snow @kos.

A lot

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Q: Proposed new code of conduct for all Stack Exchange sites

UPDATE: We've incorporated lots of the feedback below into what we think is a much better version than the one we proposed originally. Thanks a ton for all the input, and let us know if you like the new version: The NEW new "Be Nice" Policy ("Code of Conduct") — Updated with your feedback Ori...

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@Rinzwind nice to see u in good humor buddy

Brb, my stop coming up

1:46 PM

@Oli the be nice rule is not new. They just updated it recently. It's always been there AFAIK.

@Serg I have medium grey, medium cloudy sky, medium wind and medium warm 13°C here...

Journeyman Geek

yeaaah

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@Oli: Have I been suspended?

@Serg Nice! I can't remember the last time it snowed here. Probably a couple of years ago.

> We recently proposed an update to our longstanding "Be Nice" policy, which was extremely well-received by the community.

Journeyman Geek

1:47 PM

@ParanoidPanda if you were you wouldn't be able to talk here no?

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@JourneymanGeek: I mean in the past, not now silly! :D

@ParanoidPanda From chat, yeah. You posted an image that upset somebody and that got flagged into oblivion

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@Oli: Was that Big Momma or something? :D

I guess/fear that was Big Momma on the beach... :P

@ParanoidPanda Yeah

Vivid memories ;)

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1:48 PM

:D

@ParanoidPanda can you post it again so we can check if it was a valid ban? >:-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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Yeah, good times! :P

I still remember that either!

I didn't but, sadly, I have access to it.

Suspension seems a bit extreme for that though, but there's no accounting for taste.

@cl-netbox You can troubleshoot Radeon drivers? askubuntu.com/q/699064/367990

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1:51 PM

@Rinzwind: I think this was it... :P

i am so not clicking that >:)

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I'm not sure what the reaction will be though if I post it... :D

How does one get banned exactly? Moderator's discretion?

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@Rinzwind: Oh come on! :P It's just a man who looks like a woman on a beach!

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@ParanoidPanda you sooooo earned that suspension

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1:54 PM

:D

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What I don't get though is that I had posted that picture before and I got no trouble...

@kos From chat? You just need a few people to agree that a flag is valid. 10k+ users from any site can weigh in. That'll delete the post and get the poster a 30 minute time-out.

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@JourneymanGeek: Come on! It's from a comedy film! :D

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I find your lack of taste quite disturbing.

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Oh come on! Who doesn't like Big Momma's House? :P

1:56 PM

@ParanoidPanda That's the same problem with standard flagging. If you see something flagged, you're more likely to agree with the flag than not. A confirmation bias of sorts. "It's flagged, it must be bad."

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Plus I don't see exactly what rules it broke...

@Oli Ah, I see, thanks.

@ParanoidPanda No rules as such. There were just enough people who found it offensive enough to flag and that got you an automatic suspension.

@ParanoidPanda The movie is ok, but I don't really like that yucky image out of context on my computer monitor!

Now, posting it again after having already been suspended and other users telling you it isn't welcome would get you a manual ban from a mod.

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1:58 PM

@terdon: I just don't find that very fair.

@ParanoidPanda Well. There's literally nothing we can do about it. So there.

@ParanoidPanda It isn't, really. That's the way it is though so you should always be careful what you post.

Or, to put it another way, life's not fair. Welcome to adulthood. :P

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I think that some clear rules should be outlined so that it's not just banned if a few users don't like it.

@ParanoidPanda Well, the problem is that what is offensive is very subjective. You can't make rules for it.

Rule one: DON'T GET BANNED.
Rule two: See rule one.

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2:01 PM

@terdon: But anything you say could be taken by someone in the world as offensive.

I'd have liked to have posted a link to a Monty Python sketch but I'd have to ban myself for even mentioning it. That makes me sad.

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I don't think that the system is very good, or very far, something needs to change.

@ParanoidPanda Yup. That's the rub.

@Oli Which one?

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@Oli: Really? Which sketch?

:(

2:02 PM

@ParanoidPanda It is very hard to do better. Each chat room has its own culture and different things are offensive to different people. The main idea, which is quite reasonable, is that if many people find something you said offensive, then it is offensive by definition.

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@terdon: Some people might find others talking about bacon offensive, should we ban that too now?

It also allows thousands of chat rooms to be moderated by a very small number of people. Stops things dissolving into chaos (see any YouTube comment thread)

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@terdon: I find you offensive, can you ban yourself please? :P

@ParanoidPanda If it's inappropriate to the room, people might flag it, sure.

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There really should be specific outlined rules though, because I could post something and people could be fine with it one minute, but the next people aren't and suddenly it is banned...

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2:05 PM

I don't like a system where once some people have decided, just people, not mods though, then it is law.

It's law for 30 minutes.

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I think that something really does need to change.

I'm getting that

@ParanoidPanda Yes, you've already stated that you don't like democracy.

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Don't you see that there's a problem though?

2:07 PM

@ParanoidPanda Everyone knows the flagging system in chat is flawed. If you offer a decent alternative, I'd love to hear it.

@ParanoidPanda I see the problem but as part of that you're asking us to explicitly codify "what's offensive". That's near-on impossible.

There is just no way of knowing what people find offensive.

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But if I find you offensive, should you be banned too? Not everything people think is offensive, is offensive, and should be treated as such.

@ParanoidPanda If you and 4 (I think) others do, then yes. Of course.

The short of it is to keep things civil and safe-for-work and that way, even if somebody does get flag-happy, people are unlikely to agree with them.

2:08 PM

That's just the way it is.

@muru thanks for the correction on this horrible mistake

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I think though that perhaps the law should be able to be at least challenged and changed later on so that it does not always stay like that.

@ParanoidPanda The "law"? What law? And again, how would you improve it?

@ByteCommander I think there is water inside your computer screen

Would you impose your own definition of what is offensive on others?

2:10 PM

@ParanoidPanda The only people who can see it can also see what was posted. We're really not judging you. You're being paranoid.

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@terdon There was a recent study which said that most people are actually too stupid to make the right decisions in terms of voting on change and democracy.

@ByteCommander Is that your computer ?

@hg8 That's one of the 15.10 default community backgrounds. All others are ugly.

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~~Yes, of course.~~ That one not :P

2:11 PM

@ParanoidPanda OK. First, give me a link or it didn't happen, I very much doubt the conclusions were quite that clearcut. Second, I actually believe that, but who gets to choose who's ""intelligent" enough?

@ByteCommander haha =)

After our recent conversations in the Paris chat room, if it were up to me, you most certainly would not be allowed to vote, for example.

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@terdon: Once they decided that BM was offensive, it became the law that it was banned, there should at least be the ability to challenge that.

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@terdon: I will see if I can find the link...

@ParanoidPanda Challenge what, exactly? You're back aren't you? You were suspended for a total of 30 minutes. Methinks you might be taking this a little too seriously.

Oh, and don't confuse stupidity with ignorance. The latter is curable.

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2:13 PM

Challenge the fact that I can't post big momma any more.

@ParanoidPanda If it's about bacon-bras, it can pretty well be offensive. (And yes, we already had that!)

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Really? :D

@ParanoidPanda Well, I'd rather you didn't. It's a very ugly image.

Would I just have told it to you otherwise?

freakin downtown didn't get as much snow as my suburb ! that's bullio !

2:16 PM

The main point here is that everyone has different thresholds for what is offensive. Mine tend to be particularly low, but I can't impose my view on the rest of you.

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@terdon: Just because you think it's ugly doesn't mean that I shouldn't be allowed to post it! I thought you people were all for freedom of speech!

@Serg So, I probably shouldn't tell you that the sun is shining outside and I have all the windows open, right?

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@terdon: Nor should others be able to impose their views on anyone else!

@ParanoidPanda "You people"? And, again, given that we need to keep the chat safe and open to everyone, how do you suggest we deal with it?

@terdon you're on the opposide side of earth. I'm talking about two towns that are just miles apart - that's different

2:19 PM

@ParanoidPanda what if I don't find images of child molesting offensive? Should I still be allowed to post them? Whether you like it or not, participating in chat means you are part of a society. That means that everyone's views are as valid and important as your own and you don't get to impose yours on the majority. If you don't like it, leave.

My opinion : as long as it doesn't cross the boundary of racism/sexism/other *isms, whatever is posted fine with me. Oh, and no whining and ranting here about how Ubuntu is not as good as Windows. I already addressed that yesterday

@Serg While we're at it, you could tone down the sexist remarks.

@terdon ??? I had sexist remarks ?

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:D

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@terdon: Well I found something on it here however as that is not exactly considered by most a very trustworthy source I will try to find another source, but I didn' originally read about it, someone else told me.

2:25 PM

@Serg Well, you keep posting things like "My classmate is hot" which are, frankly, not the most welcoming thing to read if you're a woman coming in to a technical chat room. Especially when people star them (which, obviously, is not your fault).

What's going on? Are we becoming Mos Eisley?

@ParanoidPanda And I am at work :=)

@Serg Buddhism? ;-)

Oh, and how can I measure the exact time a terminal command takes to run?

@ParanoidPanda I don't doubt the premise, to be honest. I've long thought that a system of weighted votes where people can vote on various issues and the weight of their vote can be determined by their level of understanding on the issue would be the best approach. Sadly, that is very easy to abuse.

@ByteCommander better than time foo or /usr/bin/time foo?

2:31 PM

@muru Thanks. So real is the value that it took from start to end if I measured it with a stop-watch?

@ByteCommander from what I understand of it, yep

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2:43 PM

@terdon: I don't think that it should be controlled by humans.

Indeed. Unfortunately, that's all we got at the moment. All the rats are too busy.

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I believe in a society though where there are no leaders, and no rules, because there don't need to be any.

@ParanoidPanda Isn't that the opposite of what you were asking for half an hour ago?

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But the interesting thing is that there really aren't any leaders, nor rules, nor is there a system, we just think there is.

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@Oli: What was that?

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2:51 PM

@A.B.: Have they started work on GNOME 3.20 by the way? And do they give any idea of what it will include? :)

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Also, when will there be a GNOME 4?

@ParanoidPanda feaneron.com/2015/09/22/…

Hi @Oli. Sorry to bother you but do you know if the source code of the Ask Ubuntu Twitter bot is available somewhere ?

@hg8 No idea, m'fraid

@Oli Okay thanks ;)

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