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12:18 AM

What's everyone think of this deal? newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1863736

@RPiAwesomeness nice! I like blue switches

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah...not sure if I want to spend $65 on stuff I don't technically need...

But it does look tempting...

but, oooo, you do neeeeed

RPi Awesomeness

I mean really, what's the fun in building a speedy new system and having a keyboard from the '90s and a mouse that's $20 on Amazon

Are you insulting my mouse? ;P

12:21 AM

I realized how hard I type once I got a blue switch keyboard

RPi Awesomeness

@Seth Nope. I'm not insulting the mouse in any way, shape, or form. Logitech M305 is an amazing little mouse :)

Balderdash

@RPiAwesomeness and it includes mouse and headphones?

RPi Awesomeness

Wish it was just the Mouse/Keyboard for less

@Mateo Yeah

I've got an M315. It works.

Sometimes I wish it had more buttons though :D

I spent over 75 for just the blue switch keyboard

RPi Awesomeness

12:23 AM

eh..too one-body look for me. However, they are good mice. Logitech is a good brand

@Mateo Yeah...I know.

granted, mine lights up in the dark...

RPi Awesomeness

Like I said...I don't need them.

I've got the money for my build (pretty sure anyways) so now the question is. $60 for 1TB HDD or $65 for Keyboard/Mouse/Headphones.

I think you found a Christmas present for someone in my family ;)

RPi Awesomeness

From a fun standpoint, second is definitely better. From the build standpoint, the HDD is better.

@Mateo You're welcome :)

Pricing on half of my components seem to be going down and the other half up...

What should this be flag of>

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Q: Is Amazon a sponsor of Ubuntu development?

When I installed Ubuntu, the launcher included these icons: Search your computer and online sources Files Firefox LibreOffice Writer LibreOffice Calc LibreOffice Impress Ubuntu Software Center Amazon [size] Volume Trash (I'm not sure of the icons' official names, so I'm going by the mouse-ove...

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12:28 AM

nothing.

It's fine.

I think.

@Seth thanks... I was thinking to optain base or too board.

well, it isn't really opinion based. Either they did, or they didn't.

Same goes for too broad I guess.

RPi Awesomeness

hmmm...not a bad deal for a Gold 80+ PSU: tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/…

@Seth it is being on the boarder line as being a bad question.

RPi Awesomeness

It's only got 1 PCIe power cable though, not an issue now, but would keep me from upgrading later...

12:30 AM

Unanswerable perhaps. Guess we'll see.

yep

@Seth it is abaswerable because they do it cause they get money from Az every time someone click or buy somthing

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1:07 AM

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Q: Capstone for Python not working

I'm unable to get Capstone (http://www.capstone-engine.org/lang_python.html) for Python to work. I have attempted to install capstone both using pip and compiling and installing from source. Both are successful, no errors, but neither works. I've tried this on Gentoo and Ubuntu. On Gentoo stabl...

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@Andrew I'm not sure that answers the question, he is talking about the icon on the launcher and says he is already aware of the search deal thing.

@Seth humm

@Seth just close it.

it is probably one and the same, they just added that icon to raise webapp awareness and used Amazon because they already had a deal with them.

Yes, but what is [size] Volume?

I'm guessing he means the partitions/disks that show up in the launcher.

1:18 AM

That would make sence.

I have no idea how to answer it. other than just saying NO as an answer.

RPi Awesomeness

Balderdash. I want to enter Intel's Ultimate Gaming Giveaway but I also want to try and get a good price on the i5-4460 I'm getting. Does anyone know if anything higher than $10 off is common?

1:33 AM

Hey, does anyone know if there is a Digital Asset Manager (DAM, MAM) for Ubuntu server?

Annonomus Penguin

2:13 AM

Hi everyone!

o/

RPi Awesomeness

o/

3:02 AM

o/ Hi everybody! \o

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Q: How to ssh into remote machine and create new user in bash script

I am writing a bash script and would like to ssh into a remote machine and execute the adduser command. This is not working, all that I get is the --help text for adduser when I run the code below. ssh backup@pizza.cs.fredonia.edu 'useradd $username; mkdir /home/$username;' || echo "Unable to c...

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3:29 AM

Hello people. Does anyone have experience with educational distros. I am not sure I want Edbuntu, as it seems more classroom orientated, but if someone has experience with it I would like to hear.

RPi Awesomeness

@Whaaaaaat o/

@NoTime EDUBUNTU

sorry I spelled it wrong, can't edit it though

silly question: I ssh in a server using work laptop and run a job using tmux. Now I ssh in using my home laptop tmux ls shows nothing. Is that expected ... ?

@NoTime Not spelling. You mentioned educational and Ubuntu.

3:35 AM

@Whaaaaaat yeah I was just wondering if someone had experience with it and I would be better off with Qimo or something else

I installed Edubuntu on all of my school's netbooks when I was working as tech support there.

So after a bit of hassle, I managed to get my Bluetooth adapter working in Ubuntu.

o/ @NathanOsman

@Heisenberg I am not familiar with that software, but if you are on a work network, you may have to configure some things differently than on home, and vice versa

o/

3:36 AM

@NoTime What are you trying to do?

Now I can stream audio from my phone over my PC speakers.

@Whaaaaaat I am getting a new computer for kids, just wondering, how I should set it up

@NathanOsman HORRAY! THE WORLD IS AT PEACE NOW! /s

but srsly, grats.

it's 9 yo first PC, desktop, I'd like to go with linux as OS

@NoTime Edubuntu.

They can't break it...

AND it's educational.

3:37 AM

@Whaaaaaat That's definitely good. Have a 3 yo who is going to want to play with it as well :)

Just make sure you install a real DM for yourself.

Yep. Edubuntu.

I started Ubuntu at 7. Man, did that go bad.

Is it functionally a "normal" OS with limits, or a slightly different OS

Yes/no

Im on the site for it too not really seeing all the info I want

Install Unity and it's just like Ubuntu.

3:39 AM

eh.. so it's just a desktop environment away.

It's just good for 9y/olds, because they can't screw it up. Yet they still can get the "Linux" environment.

Until they figure out the VT.

RPi Awesomeness

@Whaaaaaat lol

I just want lots of educational games for the guys to play with and still be able to do stuff, so yeah would be good. I can always set permissions

@RPiAwesomeness Hey, what does rm -rf / do?

it wins the internet

RPi Awesomeness

3:41 AM

@Whaaaaaat And cookies!

@NoTime Yep. Edubuntu.

unfortunately most computers can't handle it

My goal someday is to set up my Raspberry Pi as a discoverable Bluetooth device that, when a phone or audio player connects to it, will automatically connect to the A2DP sink service and begin streaming from the device.

@NoTime ofc, you can always set their DE to Unity when they're ready.

RPi Awesomeness

@NoTime Yeah. Last I checked winning the internet required an insanse PC. Quantum computing and all that jazz

3:42 AM

@NathanOsman NEVER. MENTION. RPis. IN. THE. SAME. CHATROOM. AS. @RPiAwesomeness

@NathanOsman I would like to do something with my Pi.. i never find time

RPi Awesomeness

:)

@RPiAwesomeness I want a quantum computer for my Skyrim

RPi Awesomeness

@Whaaaaaat If you get your hands on a quantum computer, just sell it to google. Quantum is far to complex for Skyrim I must say.

35bil FPS FTW

3:43 AM

Π is better than π

but I like raspberries too

RPi Awesomeness

lol, unless you've got a good GPU paired with it it won't do much...

@RPiAwesomeness No. I want to be the envy of every gamer with my 35bil FPS.

@RPiAwesomeness QUANTUM GPU!!

I don't think your eyes will appreciate anything above about 120 FPS.

RPi Awesomeness

Mayh Gosh.

@NathanOsman Well, then. cough buzzkill cough

RPi Awesomeness

3:45 AM

@NathanOsman But #YOLO-SWAG

Ok then. 60 70" HDTVs for a screen.

Ꝏ π
ꝏ
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@NoTime I hate you.

my raspberries are long

I saw a giant wall of 4K displays at SIGGRAPH.

Does that count?

3:46 AM

@Whaaaaaat ?

@NathanOsman Were they 60 off of one PC?\

oh the rm thing? I thought you were being sarcastic

@NoTime Me uses chromez.

@Whaaaaaat I am not sure why you hate me though

@NoTime Unicode in Chrome...

3:47 AM

Oh the browser.. Im on iceweasel now

@NoTime Nor have I.

ctrl shift U

On windows unfortunately...

oh.. character map :)

I can't remember the alt way to do it

I hate windows. Stupid Office not porting to Linux.

And stupid Bethesda for not making Skyrim Linux-native.

3:50 AM

Ok. it's 'ALT' '+' then unicode number

on windows

Office doesn't behave well with openoffice/libreoffice

unless you have old office

don't try ppt

unless it's simple

I just Wine MSOFFICE over usually.

I am totally misunderstanding that(what you said). I see you are using wine (as opposed to running something in windows then trying to run it in linux) I misread that

?

That made no sense

@Whaaaaaat So you are saying that MSOffice and Skyrim aren't working right?

No. I'm upset that they are not yet Linux native.

3:55 AM

Office isn't likely to ever be Linux native.

I don't think office will ever be, I go back and forth if I want linux to be extremely mainstream. I just worry about people getting rid of opensource/free

@Seth Sadly troo. Nor is Skyrim.

Gamers would be happy

@NoTime I would be happy. Finally over 120FPS

They could spend huge amounts on rigs vs on software to run them

@Whaaaaaat I thought anything over 60 was not really noticable

3:58 AM

@Seth Hey, they already have an Android counterpart: play.google.com/store/apps/…

why does mom put coconut oil into everything...

RPi Awesomeness

oookay. I'm having a pretty dang serious allergic reaction to something. I'm sneezing all over the place.

@NathanOsman whoa, neat. Now someone port that to Ubuntu/Desktop linux.

@NathanOsman reviews (at first glance) look bad

:P

@NoTime It's a Microsoft product.

4:01 AM

@RPiAwesomeness push your finger right below your nose/above lip

@NathanOsman +1

RPi Awesomeness

:)

@NathanOsman they may be writing in C#

@NoTime Oh god! HASHTAGS IN CODING!

Save us now!!

and porting over

4:01 AM

With Xamarin?

I have no clue honestly, I just could see that being a lazy way

I'm pretty sure Office is written in C++ anyway.

Parts of it obviously interconnect with .Net in some way.

I was just saying something kind of ridiculous, being bad at sarcasm.

Maybe they wrote it in Perl :P

Funny thing... I actually wrote a Perl script today.

I doubt you could truly port a full office, or even mobile office over that easy

RPi Awesomeness

4:04 AM

Nah. Defs for sure BrainF*ck

resists XKCD urge

RPi Awesomeness

Because MS would

I wrote a windows shell script today...

@RPiAwesomeness That would make the source code, what, at least 2-3 TB?

RPi Awesomeness

:) They've got some insane compression

4:05 AM

:COPY
copy z:\test.txt c:\temp
goto COPY

RPi Awesomeness

@NoTime Impressive!

@NoTime Erm...

I don't understand it

I mean I know what it does

I just don't know where it comes from

It was an exercise.. not a real thing you would want to use probably

I also send out 64kb pings continuously to a computer.

Overall it was a pretty wasteful day in school

How to make your windows better:

Open your C:\WINDOWS folder.

Delete the system32 folder. 30x speed boost!

RPi Awesomeness

Or, if you want to be L33T H4x0rZ about it:

dangit typing in the dark

4:10 AM

Time to fire up three servers on Digital Ocean for testing purposes.

RPi Awesomeness

del C:\Windows\

@NathanOsman Testing what? The results of giving me root access?

@NathanOsman make sure all the ports are open :)

@NoTime I'm testing Serf.

@NathanOsman Aw. no me having root?

4:11 AM

I'm just testing stuff. What do you want root for? :P

There's never going to be anything of value on a test server.

@RPiAwesomeness format C:\ I am thinking there is a force switch in there somewhere too

RPi Awesomeness

:)

Anyways... gnight chaps

@NathanOsman Testing things of my own...

@NathanOsman github.com/hashicorp/serf this one?

@NathanOsman What is Serf even?

4:12 AM

@RPiAwesomeness night

@NoTime Yup.

Though the project page is here: serfdom.io

@NathanOsman I am reading the directions, it looks like you are threading over sockets with something

Serf devs like zombies.

@NathanOsman that is pretty cool, yeah I something similar a part of the program (VERY minor) part in a python class, that would keep status messages on a main "server" depending on the socket whether the socket was open or closed.

@NoTime Cool.

4:18 AM

@NathanOsman but this is triggering fixes, and all sorts of stuff with that data

What happens when the main server goes down?

@NathanOsman I just remember it was really confusing at the time, because every module we used, I had no clue what was inside, and what it was doing. I knew the results, but not how it worked.. and the code inside was not labeled as well as I would like.

@Whaaaaaat In Serf?

There's no main server.

@Whaaaaaat I think this is more of a cluster type

so like a bunch of things connected

@NathanOsman I've never worked with cluster servers before. Only single servers.

4:20 AM

thats like clouds and scary stuff

I spent the last week working with Fleet/Docker/CoreOS at work.

Serf is sort of an alternative to CoreOS - or more specifically, etcd.

the unknown things living in the cloud...

like rabid mankeys

@NoTime Out. That book had the worst ever love story. They should have all died.

@Whaaaaaat I am missing something. I just remember talking about rabid mankeys because it was a funny sounding thing when I was younger.. I am not sure about which book you are talking about..

Hi guys

4:24 AM

@LuisAlvarado o/

hi

after a day trying to get kodi working after compiling, anybody here has a ppa for it

Brain dead.

@NathanOsman Hi Nathan, the main dude

@Whaaaaaat are you doing here?

@LuisAlvarado I'm not aware of anyone having packaged it yet :(

4:24 AM

real quick, before I go to bed, does anyone remember top of their head, which shell uses double brackets in conditions? dash or bash?

@LuisAlvarado Oh, sorry. Am I not allowed here anymore? I'll leave...

@Seth Bash uses them for numerical comparison, I think.

then Ill wait for my sanity. Too many compilation horrors...errors.

That's off the top of my head.

@LuisAlvarado You might want to take a look at the existing packaging for XBMC in the archives.

That will at least tell you how XBMC was built for Ubuntu.

thanks friend

4:26 AM

I don't like when compiling goes wrong

@Seth I am looking on Herr Google

@Seth great link here stackoverflow.com/questions/2188199/…

@NathanOsman thanks, that's what I thought. Just heading to bed so I didn't want to get distracted in yet another new tab.

Ok, forget that, reading link.

but as Nathan said, Bash uses that for additional easier comparisons.

@LuisAlvarado No, really. If I'm not allowed here, I'll go in 3 minutes.

@LuisAlvarado archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xbmc/…

That's the Debian packaging for XBMC on Ubuntu 14.04.

4:27 AM

@Whaaaaaat !!!! Thank you Nathan

@Whaaaaaat your name is used for is to complete sentences like this one.

@LuisAlvarado The debian/control file in there might be a bit hard to read, but that's where the compiling is done.

I actually would not know @Whaaaaaat to do without you Nathan.

And that package has a whackload of dependencies.

@LuisAlvarado I will change my name the second I can now.

4:28 AM

It took me nearly a minute to scroll through all of them.

@Whaaaaaat in the world would you do that for? ;P

O.o, wow, tomorrow I'll follow your recommendations. @Whaaaaaat was I thinking, maybe too sleepy.

I tried doing TermKit once, and it didn't work. It was a long list of dependencies and compiling for nothing

@LuisAlvarado @Seth .......

So, @NathanOsman, I wanted to @Seth through my installed packages yesterday, but I had @NoTime.

hahhahha lol

4:30 AM

but I had @NoTIme ?

LOLL

@Seth (v): To purge, remove, destroy

haha.. I guess.

nice link @LuisAlvarado, very helpful. Thanks Nathan, NoTime. I'm off to bed now.

@Seth take care friend.

Have fun @Seth

4:33 AM

He has @NoTime to have fun, he is going to sleep. @Whaaaaaat were you thinking!

At least I didn't accidentally do a @LuisAlvarado to my laptop while cloning it!

I am just wondering if Alvarado has a meaning en Espagnol

That would have fixed not only your laptop, but all electrical devices in a 42 mile radius

@LuisAlvarado (v):To break beyond known repair in any universe.

It's close to "sweet pea"

and Louis is a gold coin (translated to Luis)

so I looked in my pocket and strangely found a @LuisAlvarado

I ate the Alvarado and spent the Luis

4:38 AM

curious, I actually did with my father a genealogy study on the Alvarado, it went up to Pedro de Alvarado,which was one of the ones that accompany Christopher Columbus, then later went crazy and started doing campaigns in the name of spain.

Yeah it says that most of the names derive from an explorer

There is @NoTime to go crazy

That is @Whaaaaaat I hear

stop.

that name is so much easier

:)

4:40 AM

Well guys, gotta go, you all take care, @Whaaaaaat I am going to do is sleep since I have @NoTime to work.

My name will be impossible to use as a word in a sentence.

@LuisAlvarado later good luck with compiling and stuff tomorrow?

@Whaaaaaat do you mean? @Whaaaaaat ever makes you think that.

@Whaaaaaat you have been doing Linux since you were 7? right

@NoTime ya.

4:41 AM

yeah, hope to get less bugs tomorrow

I am using that ping properly :)

hehe

@LuisAlvarado, I think you will have @NoTime to debug that code.

@LuisAlvarado knows @Whaaaaaat he's doing no matter @Whaaaaaat anyone says... even @NathanOsman

@NathanOsman Ban @LuisAlvarado and @NoTime please.

4:43 AM

Heh

I am done. I really am just wondering you must be like 18 or something now. Are you working on doing Linux admin, or going to school for anything like that?

I am currently going to college trying to get an AA in CS.

General computer tech.

Does your school have a programming path?

Might work at Geeksquad for a while and actually help people with tech problems until I get enough money to run my own tech store.

@NoTime Yep.

or software development... ew at Geeksquad..

@Whaaaaaat so you are going Net Admin route?

@NoTime Nope. Just repair/building.

4:47 AM

@Whaaaaaat so like A+ cert. I don't want to push into your life, just thinking that straight up repair is starting to go dinosaur, or become like a car mechanic now

Yep A+.

@NoTime That's just until I have enough money to start making and selling computers.

And doing web hosting.

Amazon Glacier has unbelievably low prices.

100GB of storage for $1/month.

@Whaaaaaat making as in assembling? or designing

@NoTime Both.

Basically, create a PC brand.

@Whaaaaaat are you going to do any engineering? or more like you will build cases and assemble stuff from ground up? kinda like iBuyPower

4:50 AM

@NoTime Like Lenovo. But smaller.

@NathanOsman how does that work?

@Whaaaaaat that is ambitious. Could be fun too. Do you mess with electronic design at all? or doing hardware programming, BIOS/EFI design or anything like that?

@NoTime What do you mean?

@NoTime I'll have money to hire people to do that.

I'll be busy to coding custom OSes for the PCs

@NathanOsman I mean how can they do that much storage :)

They're Amazon. And there's a catch.

The files cannot be retrieved immediately.

You have to put in a request and it can take 6-8 hours before it is available.

4:53 AM

@Whaaaaaat have you done a full kernel build yet? I have just done arch, looked into some stuff, but are you planning on doing from existing kernel (like Linux) or build your own.. both seem kinda cool

@NoTime Si.

@NathanOsman that is stupid...

@NathanOsman it must be marketed towards backup

Exactly.

It's for long term archival.

So if you have a large photo collection and you want peace of mind, that's the way to go.

@Whaaaaaat so would you say it would be more software what you (personally) would do?

@NoTime Ya. And maybe tell the designers that their PC designs are crap.

4:55 AM

@NathanOsman I wonder if they are just doing super compression

@NoTime Possibly.

@Whaaaaaat are you learning (know) any languages?

@NoTime C, C++, VB, PHP, HTML, shell known.

Learning Java, Python, C#, Objectiv-C. in that order.

@NathanOsman just seems as if they are doing like rent a space... ok we will retrieve it for you

@Whaaaaaat Add Go to that list.

4:56 AM

@NathanOsman @Whaaaaaat?

@Whaaaaaat so you already have the software side at a pretty solid, and want to get technical working out of the way?

@Whaaaaaat It's a relatively new programming language designed for concurrency.

@NoTime I just want some money from doing tech work.

@Whaaaaaat I don't think they get the "most" money in the IT field, but you probably would have pretty good chance of having more flexible work hours

@NoTime Meh. I'm good at IT.

5:00 AM

@Whaaaaaat What I mean, is if you want to get a cert with higher oompf along the CompTIA route, you might want Net/Sec + (or higher if you like)

@Whaaaaaat if you have A+ it get's renewed whenever you renew those certs too

@NoTime Again, my goal is to get a job with the Geek Squad so I can make some money first. Then I want to probably open up my own repair/build shop.

The mobile market is pretty good for repairs (iScreens).

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Q: svn update or checkout problem : Can't read length line in file '/home/username/svn_repository/db/revs/0/697'

My latest revision is 703 after svn committed. But When I execute the svn update or svn checkout commands from Client machine it throws. svn: REPORT of '/home/username/svn_repository/!svn/vcc/default': Could not read chunk size: connection was closed by server (http://10.192.1.5) I checked...

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@Whaaaaaat heh.. yeah that is true. Geek Squad charges a lot too, so who knows maybe you can steal customers from them.

@NoTime Yep. I just want to make some money first. They are good for me because most "repairs" are restoring "The Big Blue E" to old ladies' screens.

I'm lazy.

@Whaaaaaat virus scans too I think.

5:04 AM

user image

I never went to them honestly but have met some people who worked for them at one point

I went to them only for a new hard drive.

I was impressed that they weren't absolutely shocked that I'm running a Hackintosh as a triple-boot.

is that a Venn Diagram

Yes.

i never checked out the actual xkcd site

I am probably going to be busy for the next week...

5:07 AM

So you'll have @NoTime?

Precisely @Whaaaaaat I'm saying

welll.

P=NP

I am actually going to read a bunch of these comics...

NP=P

If P==NP:
print(P)

with that tab

good night

5:24 AM

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8:11 AM

I have preinstalled windows 8 and Ubuntu 14.04. today I install Mint 17 as triple boot. before all my Ubuntu kernel version was 3.13.0-35-generic and Mint kernel was 3.13.0-24-generic. after I update the Mint 17 and after I reboot system both Mint 17 and Ubunt 14.04 was updated with 3.13.0-24-generic kernel version . any reason ??

8:21 AM

Aww man, I hate it when I come to chat in the morning and it's scrolled up to an awesome conversation about peripherals that I missed out on :(

8:43 AM

@Oli we can start a new discussion? :-)

@Rinzwind No, I'll just get angry about printers and my stupid expensive mouse that's lasted about half the time my stupid cheap mouse lasted.

or if you want we can talk about the Union Jack :D

Union Flag

:D

(it's only a jack when it's on a boat apparently)

8:46 AM

Ununion Flag :D

Yeah yeah... Wait for Friday.

@Oli oh? :F

grrr needed to be a :D

It's what I've always been told.

I saw some nice alternatives _O-

Yeah they're all a bit meh. Maybe if they vote for independence we should invade just to get the blue back in the flag.

9:01 AM

if they say "yes" it is not going to take long for Catalonia to want the same :-X

what I think is weird is that it needs to be 50+% .... something like that should be 2/3rd+ :X

9:36 AM

One of the bigger problems with this is it'll awaken more separatists in other parts of the country. People in London (for example) are starting to realise that they're the biggest population centre (third largest in Europe) and has by far the biggest GDP(PPP) (inner London is the highest concentration of money in the world).

9:47 AM

hmmm Wales does not have a lot of seperatists do they? :D

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