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Q: Set which grub loader to use after dual booting two linux OSes

Nicolas MartelI installed a second linux distro recently which replaced the old grub that was already in place with its own fresh installation. I would like keep using the grub loader from the first OS, Ubuntu. Thanks

 
 
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1:12 AM
Why exactly are people saying this is off-topic?
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Q: Shell command not asking for password inside while loop

Lyapunov AlexanderI am trying to run .sh file to put certificate via keytool command in every jre/lib/security/cacert file described in ~/.java/deployment/deployment.properties file. #!/bin/bash PATTERN=deployment\.javaws\.jre\.[0-9]*\.path FILE=~/.java/deployment/deployment.properties sep='=' trail=lib/security...

I gave it a brief look and I don't see anything glaringly obvious.
 
hm, probably the group that wants to purge shell scripts...
 
I was afraid of that :/
 
1:28 AM
it looks off-topic to me
 
like a bug? or just because it has some programing...
 
@Chan-HoSuh mm, but the question is why?
 
@MAteo, not sure what you mean by "just because it has some programing"
obviously Ubuntu-related questions can have some programming in it
 
btw, did you folks hear that MS wants to buy Mojang (creators of Minecraft)?
 
because we have defined criteria for being "on-topic"
 
1:31 AM
Right, but I fail to see which one it fulfils. I could be overlooking something, but I'm not sure what.
It looks like he is trying to script certification of some Java related files.
 
it should be ubuntu-related
 
bash.
 
Let's not play that game, guys.
 
lol.
Anyway, it looks Ubuntu related to me (running shell scripts on Ubuntu/scripting tasks on Ubuntu).
 
I don't see why it's specifically Ubuntu
it looks generic
 
1:36 AM
just be it might be applicable to another linux donsn't make it auto off-topic
 
I"m not a follower of the strict on-topic school, but I can see why people would say so
"might be"?
now you're really pulling my leg, Mateo
 
@Chan-HoSuh We accept questions that are not Ubuntu "specific" (not entirely sure what you define as "ubuntu specific so..)
 
yeah we do, Seth
and i think that's fine
but at the same time, I don't pretend not to understand why others disagree
it's clearly not on-topic
 
sigh. That is what I fail to see.. What makes it off-topic, to you?
 
I'm using Ubuntu he is using Ubuntu, we are answering a qustion for Ubuntu, using programs in ubuntu. so I'm going to stop arguing.
 
1:44 AM
Can I poke the Ubuntu people here to help with a compilation error with Clang?
 
@hichris123 Don't ask to ask, just ask! ;P
 
@Seth Can I ask to ask to ask?
@Whaaaaaat Why didn't you onebox the xkcd link?
 
2:02 AM
@hichris123 haha, no ;)
 
How does that make the question off-topic?
I mean, I guess it makes it more about the Java whatever, but I don't see why we can't just answer it.
 
I would close it as unclear....
 
I'm sure you would.
 
btw, if memory serves me right FILE=~/.java/deployment/deployment.properties won't work
 
2:12 AM
Yo.
 
@Seth I'm not saying that it means that is off topic, just that thats one possible cause why people may think is off topic
@Seth because it doesn't have enough info?
 
@Braiam Ah.
 
You know what? I'm feeling creative today. Time to do some Go programming.
 
@Braiam I don't think it is missing enough info to close it for that right now.
 
2:17 AM
Aug 27 at 12:53, by Braiam
I vote first, ask question later, if I comment after downvoting people just start nagging about the downvote instead of improving
change downvoting with voting to close
 
I know your opinions, but blankets like that aren't very useful.
 
is not a blanket, just a policy
if I don't feel that a question is answerable, it shouldn't be left open
 
It is blanket, because you apply it you everything without though (at least, no thoughts I am aware of).
 
@Seth stop trying to think how I think, you and Oli are failing spectaculary
close the question as unclear what you are asking
you don't have the correct knowledge to evaluate if the question is answerable or not
I tested, I couldn't reproduce the behavior
I voted to close
just leave it closed
 
I can't leave it closed with the wrong reason.
But I can't close it until I am convinced.
I know this isn't 100% optimal, but it is what it is atm.
Especially since the OP was seen 7 hours ago.
 
2:22 AM
you are deceptioning me again, and again
if you are unsure, just leave it alone
 
deceptioning? I'm not even sure that is a word.
@Braiam I am sure. I am sure that it is not off-topic "not about Ubuntu".
 
@Seth I voted "Unclear what you are asking", why do you override my vote?
which is rightful
 
Because your vote closed it wrongly, who cares what you voted for, what matters is what other people see.
 
then close it as unclear what you are asking
 
I haven't closed the tab yet, and if you gave me some time to think perhaps I would.
 
2:24 AM
@Seth is one of the "deceptioned" conjunctions
 
The world is not so black and white, see the colours, it is much more interesting ;)
 
Firefox doesn't know either
I'm seeing the colors...
all the matices
and I don't like people doing it wrong
I offered my expertise, left a helpful comment, and voted accordingly (as I do whenever I vote "unclear")
That other 4 has doing it wrong doesn't matter to me, I did the right thing
 
but you hurt the site in the doing.
 
and you overrode me
 
That is my issue with blanket policies.
 
2:28 AM
@Seth I don't use blankets
 
They may "fit the grooves" but that doesn't mean it will spin properly.
 
I don't vote on things I do not have expertise
I have expertise on that question, I did vote
 
@Braiam In a hot climate like yours, I am not surprised.
@Braiam yes, and I am sorry your vote went to the fishes, but I can't leave it closed with the wrong reason. End of conversation.
If you had told me you were going to vote unclear I would have cleared the wrong votes for you (if you asked nicely).
 
@Seth "but I can't leave it closed with the wrong reason" then close it as unclear!
@Seth I don't ask for things nicely
please, don't ask me nicely either
I find that niceness, most of the time, in AU, gets in the way of things that needs to be done
I do what needs to be done, point
anyone against that, is hurting the site
 
I don't close things because people demand I do. I close things because I believe they should be closed and it follows the policies of the site. End of conversation. I told you I was thinking about it, but you keep pestering me.
@Braiam Your lose then :/
Anyway, I have useful things to do, while I consider.
 
2:32 AM
yeah, meanwhile I wasted my time offering you my counsel
thanks for the appreciation
 
nope, you didn't waste your time, because you showed me a new way of looking at it.
Just because I don't instantly agree with you does not make my appreciation any less.
 
@Braiam, high five (for testing the script)
 
@Seth which makes me a little sad
but I can't think of a better person to use 2 billion dollars ;p
 
to lighten the mood a bit... is it weird to feel clever about googling in a remote desktop environment to get out of the remote desktop?
 
2:43 AM
@JourneymanGeek yeah :(
You can never tell how it will turn out once MS touches it.
And no matter how it turns out, it is never quite the same.
@Chan-HoSuh haha lol.
 
@Seth: though, mojang only did release one game
 
@JourneymanGeek IKR, look at the impact it has made.
 
Stupid Microsoft.
 
What did they do this time? :P
 
"Want to craft stone tools? Download the $7.95 Stone Tool crafting recipes now!"
SALE!!! Diamond armor crafting recipes now only $17.95!
minecraft.
Next it'll be XBOne only.
And no more non-approved mods. Bukkit servers will die.
 
2:54 AM
@Whaaaaaat Nah, MS still gives updates to Skype for Linux.
 
@Seth Skype isn't as valuable as Minecraft.
Skype doesn't have legions of 13 year olds with rich parents.
 
silly thing is both are things they could build themselves.
 
@Whaaaaaat So?
MS may be a bit dull, but that aren't daft.
 
At least Apple didn't buy it. I am NOT getting a Mac just so I can play Minecraft.
 
@Whaaaaaat: or they rebuild minecraft in .net
which may not be a bad thing ;p
 
2:56 AM
But no. Bukkit might be blocked though.
 
I though mojang hired that team?
 
Only the official client and server will work, maybe with official plugins approved by Microsoft (which you have to pay for)
You can't really hire Open Source.
I just hope to god that server admins don't need to start paying a yearly license for the Minecraft server.
 
sure you can
 
Well, technically you can.
 
Heck, I just paid 5 quid for a piece of open source, formerly freely available software.
 
2:58 AM
But you don't hire EVERYONE working on the project.
 
open source != public domain
why not?
 
I don't get a paycheck from Mojang.
Answer: No.
Sup @RPiAwesomeness
You missed the Apple rage from me yesterday :D
 
Sup
Why u hef be med bra?
 
Cuz apple stealng from Android and callin their onw bro,
 
I see bro
 
3:10 AM
ohh god. someone lost 1093 rep to serial upvoting.
 
ow
@Braiam BTW, did you ever look at my question (askubuntu.com/questions/512184/…)
@Whaaaaaat That hurts for anyone
 
major sockpuppet probably.
 
Watching LinusTechTips :)
 
Wonder how AU found about that one. It was a LOT of rep for a short time.
rrrrrrr. pointless bold
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A: What is difference between commands (like:cat,ls,cp) and gvfs commands?

xiaodongjiegvfs-... commands can process remote locations based on url. From man gvfs-cat: gvfs-cat works just like the traditional cat utility, but using gvfs locations instead of local files: for example you can use something like smb://server/resource/file.txt as location. Same as for ever...

Hello @Mateo
come on best buy. ship my pc already...
 
3:37 AM
@Whaaaaaat Buying a new PC?
 
@Whaaaaaat it's mine answer.
 
I hate the "I'm new to Linux, but planning to change to Ubuntu. I can't get this to work." questions. I understand but there are so many
 
@Whaaaaaat: not as bad as using hashes for shell without code blocking it or backtick abuse.
@NoTime: heh, one of those is what's keeping me on ubuntu ;p
 
my user name is: something' or '1'='1
from now on
@JourneymanGeek it's just so hard to parse through all of the questions that are the same/similar
 
XD
@NoTime: well, Ubuntu is a distro a lot of people start with...
 
3:42 AM
@JourneymanGeek Oh gosh. I hate that
@JourneymanGeek @Whaaaaaat thinks 14.10 is going to be the release of the girls.
Unicorns...
 
lol
Fun fact. The person who first introduced me to linux was a girl ;p
 
Heh, I introduced myself :D
 
Didn't have the hardware to spare
Not like now, when I can grab someone's old laptop ;p
 
I had read in various places about it, and figured I'd try it, cause it was super geeky and had a penguin as a mascot. Keep in mind I was 11.
 
@JourneymanGeek it's not the swtiching over, that's cool it's the format of the question
 
3:44 AM
lol
lucky
I think the thing that really sealed my geekiness was learning to build a computer at 13
 
I was older I think
 
Hello
What is up?
 
I thought it was going to be all terrible graphics and terminal hackage. :)
 
I made first webpage at 13 though.. and had one on geocities too :)
 
And I still love working with hardware ;)
 
3:45 AM
@JourneymanGeek Which I'm doing now :)
@NoTime hehe...I made my first (albeit crappy) site at 8. First desktop app was ~9/10
 
@RPiAwesomeness: funny, that is precisely what I am doing now. terrible graphics and terminal hackage
 
I was on Windows then. God forgive me.
 
@RPiAwesomeness I was 8 in 1990
 
god I love the little system I am typing to you on now ;p
 
@NoTime I wasn't!
 
3:47 AM
I think CompuServe maybe was around?
not sure about ISPs then..
 
-1 Aug 27 downvoted GetDeb… PlayDeb
-30 Aug 27 removed User was removed (learn more)
 
My first internet connection was something called teleview. lynx over a text terminal of some sort.
 
:(
 
@Andrew what is that about?
@JourneymanGeek you ever play a MUDD?
 
@NoTime I lose rep.
 
3:49 AM
@Andrew whoa....
 
or telnet games?
 
@NoTime due to the User was remove, no fair.
 
@NoTime I have :D
 
:{
 
3:49 AM
Telehack anyone?
 
@RPiAwesomeness I used to play realms of despair
I still have a character on there that is a race that no longer exists (Can't make any more)
@Andrew I have to look at your profile to see these things right?
oh... wait
the - was negative
I thought you were making a list
 
@NoTime I hate losing rep.
 
that is a big one
 
Specially if it wasn't downvoted.
 
@RPiAwesomeness i never got into hack games.. it was text based fantasy.. and I sound geeky there
yeah.. hack was wayy too mainstream (puts hipster glasses with duct tape holding them together on)
 
3:53 AM
@NoTime lol, I tried one of those...can't remember the name...Lusternia or something. it was way fun
Intel 730 SSDs.. :D
 
I want to know if that 99$ supercomputer works..
 
@JourneymanGeek something you might like.. if you are still on
comes with Ubuntu btw
 
yeah, I remember that
I would not agree its a supercomputer tho ;p
 
It looks like a processor
I just don't understand enough really... to know exactly what it is
 
3:58 AM
its a multicore processor
 
why is it being called a supercomputer then..?
 
Very shiny for some loads
cause it makes for better marketing ;p
 
I don't know if this is the right spot to do this.. but have you heard about using light vs electricity in processors?
 
Wonder how fast that'd be...
 
I think IBM did one
@RPiAwesomeness they are saying ~45GHz computer (but also say that would be optimum with other settings)
for the Parallella
 
4:03 AM
holy crap.
For $99...graphics can't be that good
not to mention per-core power being :P
 
we think multiplying the core frequency(700MHz) times the number of cores (64) is as good a metric as any. As a comparison point, the theoretical peak GFLOPS number often quoted for GPUs is really only reachable if you have an application with significant data parallelism and limited branching.
reading it that way
according to Journeyman It's a processor. 99$ for the people who did kickstarter
99$ or more and you get one :)
this is cool too

http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/03/holey-chip-ibm-drills-holes-into-optical-chip-for-terabit-per-second-speed/
@JourneymanGeek are you able to answer basic theoretical possibilities of doing something like distributed computer (as in parts in separate areas), while using fiber to transmit signals, versus current speed in regular circuit boards
 
No? :p
 
@RPiAwesomeness My Raspberry Pi can playback full HD video and has a 3D graphics accelerator.
And it was only $35.
 
@NathanOsman hehe yup :D
 
The adeptiva processors are basically a ton of low powered arm cores. Very nice for tasks that parallise well.Your code and compiler need to be designed for that tho
 
4:14 AM
Now, was it a 45GHz CPU? I don't think so
 
Parellelization is the way of the future.
 
Kinda sorta
 
@JourneymanGeek like that kinda
With fiber in between
everything is Light!
Don't you hit a cap eventually for processing speed? though.. (for other conversation)
 
Parallel processing is not always a good substitute for parallel processing
@NoTime Intel tried that
 
4:20 AM
@JourneymanGeek The distribution like that or the optical computing?
maybe decentralized would be a better way.. not sure
Parallel processing is not always a good substitute for parallel processing
@JourneymanGeek is this like inception?
Im sorry if I am pinging you like crazy my messages keep turning out crappy
 
I mean good single thread performance
 
i need to get to bed thanks for convo guys
 
4:56 AM
Go really isn't that bad syntax-wise. I have a Sublime plugin that auto-formats Go code whenever I save it.
 
@Lucio Well, I went to sleep and today I will try again. Your car number is blurred now. BTW, see this car, on same street. Thanks!
@Mateo I tried patchage, but I didn't know how to connect them. Also, I tried a combination between command line and QJackCtl. I explained in this question my problem. Why no data comes in aseqdump?
 
5:26 AM
What did I miss?
@xiaodongjie Then DO NOT USE RANDOM BOLD.
Stupid iWatch.
 
@Mitch isn't this duplicate?
 
@RPiAwesomeness 7 years old :D
 
@IonicăBizău haha, no problem
and thanks a lot! You're awesome dude
 
@Pandya Yes. VTCing.
 
I'm writing a post about Hibernate for Spanish people!
 
5:30 AM
?
 
That is a feat
 
@Whaaaaaat nothing really
 
Other than @xiaodongjie saying that it was HER answer that I corrected.
And @RPiAwesomeness saying that I think 14.10 is the release of the girls.
 
I won't speak about that
 
5:31 AM
about which one of the two?
 
both
 
ah.
or the fact that Apple products suck?
 
neither
that is a fact, nothing to add there
 
lol
And the stupid iWatch.
cough Pebble cough
 
ok, mapping has finished successfully
 
5:35 AM
Mapping of what?
 
of classes with Hibernate
 
ah
 
he, I saw that
first article finished!
 
Do we still do RTVs here?
 
xD
RTC VTR you mean
 
5:37 AM
difference?
 
how do you Resolve to Vote?
anyway, we always do VTR
 
I thought it was Request to Vote
 
Vote To Resolve maybe?
haha, request to vote xD
my dog is having nightmares, that means it's late here
 
oh lord, you are the king correctly answering dead posts!
 
5:41 AM
:D
 
good night
 
night
I just VTCed my own question...
another VTR (if you don't mind)... askubuntu.com/questions/518091/…
 
Happens
I though you generally didn't really use xorg anymore
 
what?
Mir isn't pushed yet...
 
I mean the file
xrandr handles most of the config automatically
its a pain when it dosen't work tho
 
5:48 AM
ah.
Xorg sucks with config.
 
6:07 AM
One word: Wayland.
 
6:19 AM
There are 3 tags , , on meta.askubuntu.com but there is no wiki (info) exist for it. It is needed to provide wiki for it or delete/merge because I sometimes need such tag for questioning (such as meta.askubuntu.com/q/11951/256099)
 
7:02 AM
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Q: while using '$?' expression in bash script

JackingCheni'm writing a simple bash script !/bin/bash ls xyzzy.345 > /dev/null 2>&1 status =' echo $?' echo "status is $status" which finds the file xyzzy.345 and log the result in /dev/null but when it comes to the line "status =' echo $?'" the system replied "status: Unknown job: = echo $?" but ec...

 
Alright, goodnight all.
 
 
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8:27 AM
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Q: Adding new users from terminal session

user53029Is there a way to add a new user from the terminal AND have the system setup their user profile? ie, create their home DIR and add then to the sudoers file? I'd like to be able to do this without them having to log in via the GUI. This is an Ubuntu 14.04 system.

 
8:40 AM
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Q: new users can't log in via GUI

user53029I have added 3 new users to the system via a terminal session and defined their password. However at the GUI logon screen when I click on their account and put in the password I get the spinning wheel then it goes right back out to the login screen. No errors or nothing. What could be wrong here?...

 
 
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11:06 AM
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Q: Why does typing `let us c` on the bash terminal not show any error message?

yourI tried it in Ubuntu 12.04 and also checked the man pages for let, us and c but none of them are valid commands. It doesn't work in sh though.

 
 
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12:16 PM
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Q: Why deleting a question (and related answers) with a lot of votes

Sylvain PineauToday the following question was deleted: Should I change my Python code if I upgrade my Ubuntu? [closed] I totally agree with the too broad votes (with the benefit of hindsight) but I'm now a bit puzzled by the deletion not only because of the severe loss of rep. I consider my answers to this...

 
12:46 PM
Hey guys, please consider reopening this question. It's not a duplicate. The OP just phrased it in a way that made it seem like one. I think it should be much clearer now after my edits. It's a very interesting topic that hasn't been discussed on AU, yet.
 
???? both are referring to extracting images from a PDF - so what's the difference?
 
Hi @fossfreedom.
long time no see.
how are you?
 
@xiaodongjie hi there - not too bad - how are you today?
 
fine, thanks.
oh, not so good because my low reputation.
 
1:01 PM
@fossfreedom The Q I linked to is about separating images from text in a scanned PDF file (this is complicated because each page is a bitmap file; it would require a utility with some advanced algorithms to do so). The other Q is about extracting embedded image files from regular PDF documents (as in documents that consist both of vector elements and embedded bitmap files)
 
ok - so the dupe title should say "how to extract embedded image files from a PDF" whereas the current should say "how to separate images from text from a scanned PDF file"
... or something similar
 
@fossfreedom exactly
 
then in the new Q - say just what you have written above with a link saying that is not appropriate
feel free to edit that in and I'll reopen for you
 
I'll be happy to do so, but doesn't my most recent edit clarify that already?
 
no - the title doesnt
both Q's need adjusting
 
1:08 PM
ah yes, I'll get right on it
OK, there we go: 1.) askubuntu.com/questions/522694/… and 2.) askubuntu.com/questions/150100/… ; do you think these are fine?
 
yep - reopened
 
thanks!! :)
 
1:25 PM
@Seth tag wiki excerpt is rejected so & also posted this message.
Especially wiki is needed for on meta.
 
1:54 PM
@IonicăBizău click on an input then click on an output, a line will form between them, if it didn't you might have tried to connect input to input, this is like "patch cables" sound won't go through without a connection
 
2:17 PM
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Q: nmap ipv6 os scan fails

Sebastian BrestinWhen scanning a ubuntu machine with nmap using ipv6 address, nmap cannot determine the os type and only print the os fingerprint. Although when scanning the same host with ipv4 address it correctly detects it as being linux machine. Does anybody know why?

 
 
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3:25 PM
AH, attack of the SWAG!
 
@Mateo did you finally get your swag?
 
 
nice! ... although at the initial glance I thought that was a baby bottle :)
 
haha
 
hello all :)
 
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