Are questions about problems running Ubuntu as a guest in a VM on topic?

@terdon as long as they are not bugs - yes - running ubuntu in a vm are on-topic

watching our stream ain't ya @terdon?

@Braiam no, I'm installing Ubuntu in a VM and compiz keeps crashing :)

installed guest additions?

@Braiam yup

virtualbox - yes? set 3D acceleration and 128Mb graphics?

@fossfreedom yes, yes and yes

ubuntu version?

Everything looks fine on boot, but as soon as I start using unity it crashes. Doing just about anything will crash it, including launching a keyboard shortcut

@fossfreedom 12.04

virtualbox version?

Scratch that, it's 12.10

@fossfreedom 4.2.16 running on LMDE (basically Debian testing)

Is there a release date on 14.04 yet?

OK, just crashed again. The most reliable way to crash it seems to be attempting to run anything from the HUD

try the latest 4.3.8 - that's what I'm using - no issues here.

@fossfreedom OK will do.

@MadaraUchiha April still

@Braiam Yeah, I figured, anything more specific though? :P

@MadaraUchiha wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule

@terdon I'd also go back to 12.04 or go forward to 13.10, 12.10 isn't supported anymore and out of date.

@Seth true. It's just the one I had hanging around on my drive

@Braiam That could actually be a good question if we can get it a good answer (cc @JorgeCastro @MarcoCeppi )

Doesn't seem like Marco got the Community page fixed.

Maybe I'll do it.

12.10 is supported until April

is anyone able to use http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com.s3.amazonaws.com?

@fossfreedom Oh right. facepalm. It's confusing having 13.04 EOL and 12.10 still okay.

I'd still upgrade though

yep - 14.04 runs very nice in a VM.

I'm not too bothered really. I just want to have an Ubuntu VM to be able to answer GUI Qs here every now and then and to check for Ubuntu-specific issues in any answers I might post.

that's actually a smart idea. I've got a rather fast computer, I should try something else in a VM..

I need another CPU to do that... single core and VM's don't play nice

@Braiam Nope.

I have a Windows7 one for powerpoint and Super User answers. I used to have an OSX one as well. VM's are great for testing.

You're stuck with a single core though? Ouch.

@Seth I need a new mobo, new CPU, and maybe new RAM

on the other hand, hell yeah, I fixed that crappy problem with my chrome extension...

@Braiam you've written an extension?

@terdon more like, I adopted one

btw, this is pretty funny osrc.dfm.io/braiam

@Braiam heh, it connected you to @slm

I take it you're working on Oliver's kbd button then?

nah, just fixed a glich

@Braiam lol osrc.dfm.io/mateosalta

You should see me. It tries to say nice things, but it totally fails.

heh, C++ mateo?

Yeah he works with Nathan Osman on stuff.

@Braiam ~ just hacked some of nathan's stuff to work nice on a mac

@jokerdino --^

That's hilarious.

Not sure if it means programming languages or real languages.

programming ;)

Well he speaks more of both than me anyway :P

if I can follow the logic of some code - I'll mess around with it, and nathans programming was easy to follow. so I did things like documenting bugs, adding some of the stuff the mac does like right click on launcher menus.

Nathan is an awesome programmer :P

(hmm.. bad attempt at a pun)

awesome funny that is how I read it first...

@Mateo That's what I was trying to do :P

osman is kinda close to awesome

okay so I wrote up a bug report for the Community page.. now should I post it or wait for Marco?

@fossfreedom OK, crash still hapenning with the latest virtualbox

Unity can be a pain.

Oooh yeah

I'd either suggest using a newer/older version or getting a new DE. You might be able to install a graphics driver in a VM, but I'm not sure.

@terdon are you fully up-to-date with all packages?

@fossfreedom on the guest? No, will try updating now.

@Seth why not? Presumably the VM is presenting some kind of graphics card to the guest and I am clearly using some driver or other else I'd have no X.

@terdon that's not exactly what I mean, but yeah.

I meant installing an extra driver, not sure how it would work with your host/guest.

but then you aren't running Ubuntu in the host so.

@Seth Ah, no I don't think that will be a problem. I don't know the details but I doubt my nvidia card is passed as an nvidia to the VM. Probably some kind of funky emulation going on.

@terdon Which was my point ;)

gotcha :)

virtualbox is a tricky beast when it comes to 3D acceleration - it does a pass-through of sorts directly to your graphics card on the host - so yeah, this could also explain the crash.

the next step is to untick the 3D graphics acceleration to stop the pass-through

there's a checkbox in the virtualbox settings for that.. @terdon did you enable that?

@fossfreedom yeah, but I only really want to do this in order to be able to answer questions here, so I'd like the default setup.

@Seth yes

since you are running 12.10 - you'll still be running full "unity" - just the llvmpipe version - i.e. the software emulated version.

and restarted the VM afterwards?

@Seth yes, I had checked the tickbox from the beginning when I first created the VM

@fossfreedom OK, could you expand on that one please?

@fossfreedom ah, never mind, gotcha. OK. I used to use compiz a lot back before gnome3 and unity so I'm relatively knowledgeable about it which means I could handle some Qs on it but I'd need it to be running to be able to test them.

12.04 ubuntu had a fallback called unity-2d - basically a different version of Unity. In 12.10 they dumped Unity 2D - there was only one version of Unity. To enable non-accelerated graphic cards to run unity, it used a llvmpipe x driver - this was effectively a software-emulated version of the 3D acceleration normal graphics cards supply to Unity. Its slower - but enables Unity & other desktop's such as gnome-shell to work correctly

@fossfreedom clear, thanks.

@hbdgaf nop, it is not.

@MinatoNamikaze I was trying to create a tag on a repo, but didn't find anything until I found this: confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/Use+repo+tags

now I have a "release" :D

@stephenmichaelkellat You should add a comment to the post detailing that information. Thanks :)

hm, askubuntu.com/questions/431526/…

... @stephenmichaelkellat - please post a new answer entitled 14.04 - I've tagged the flagged answer with the versions of xubuntu it applies to.

@fossfreedom hm, yeah that's a better idea.

Are NTFS drives mounted with filesystem=ntfs-3g on Ubuntu? Not ntfs?

does this help? askubuntu.com/questions/194442/…

@fossfreedom that shows ntfs as I'd expect. OK. I was just wondering re this Q: