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12:02 AM
@gertvdijk you can delete your comment over here
I fixed it.
 
@Seth done
but really... pinging takes like an hour to be notified?
 
I don't know...
That is weird. I've had it happen much sooner.
 
your previous message to ping me was like 59 minutes earlier than I got a notification
anyway... BBT
 
Okay, TTYL
 
12:28 AM
hello folks
 
lol
 
@GeorgeEdison nice
 
1:23 AM
So I've got this problem - QWizard (a Qt class for creating a GUI wizard) doesn't provide an easy way to override the behavior of the "back" button in the wizard.
My solution? Reorder the pages. The order is actually pretty funny: page 1, page 4, page 3, page 2.
I have to do that so that clicking "back" on page 4 returns to page 1.
Or wait... maybe that isn't going to work... Hmm...
 
If I understand right, clicking back on page 3 will send me to page 4
 
That makes full and total sense.
 
This is so confusing.
Okay, there are four pages: the welcome page, the network connection page, the error page, and the success page.
The welcome page (of course) is always displayed first.
The next page is the network connection page.
Depending on whether the network connection was successful or not, the error or success page is next.
If the error page is displayed, clicking back should take you to the welcome page.
 
okay..
 
Yeah, I know :P
 
1:31 AM
Hi @LuisAlvarado :)
 
suo seth
sup
 
@GeorgeEdison Branching behaviour kinda sounds like a "This is a little too much for a simple class like this." kind of thing.
 
@LuisAlvarado Not much. Doing some research.
 
Looking to delete this question: askubuntu.com/questions/250954/…
 
@FEichinger Maybe the answer then is I need to simplify what I'm doing.
 
1:33 AM
Ok, why?
 
What you researching?
it is a dupe of another one
 
@LuisAlvarado I recommend keeping dupes around.
Sometimes they have better wording.
 
umm well thats true for how the question title is made
 
@GeorgeEdison Well, I have no idea about Qt, but perhaps you should just scrap the idea of individual pages for Error / Success and change the page contents instead?
 
shrug I guess you could edit the master.
 
1:35 AM
@GeorgeEdison I do that in GTK by reparenting frames. It might not "fit" your wizard class, but if "back" should always take you to welcome it's not really a page-stack back button it's a restore orginal state button.
 
jrg
Ok folks, if you want to talk about the election, please use this chatroom. Thanks!
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That would remove the need for four pages. You could, perhaps, have Start -> Result -> Action, with a jump Start -> Action, then Action -> Result?
 
jrg
And i'll be accepting bets - i'm the unofficial bookie this go around. ;)
 
what would one be betting? rep point bounties?
 
jrg
Cash is ok. ;)
 
1:38 AM
For someone who "refuses to drink because underage", you sure are quite stark a bookie. :P
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing QWizard does have a 'restart()' function that jumps back to the beginning.
 
Then shouldn't that be where the back button is connected?
 
jrg
so far, nobody has placed bets with me. I keep offering. i'm not a very effective one.
 
@jrg People suspect you'd screw them over.
@AbrahamVanHelpsing This.
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing I haven't figured out how to override the back button's behavior yet.
 
jrg
1:39 AM
@FEichinger shrug
 
@GeorgeEdison Then screw the back button and make a new one?
 
I have an idea. Maybe I'll just have the welcome page display any errors that occur.
 
jrg
make your own back button huh?
 
Anybody heard?
 
Something like this: 1) user enters invalid number, clicks next 2) network connection page fails 3) wizard jumps back to first page with error message
That actually makes the most sense to me now.
I wish I hadn't wasted so much time on other ideas.
 
jrg
1:41 AM
@Seth looks slick. Can I manage it via puppet/chef?
or do i have to shell out cash for BB server? :\
/me cant wait for his Ubuntu phone.
 
@jrg idk shrug
I want an Ubuntu Phone too. Or a Galaxy Note II
ugh, multi-tasking is sooo hard.
 
@GeorgeEdison - why not just scratch the idea of manipulating the back button and add a custom button instead: doc.qt.digia.com/stable/qwizard.html#setButton
 
@Seth you sell super walkie talkies?
 
Me? I don't sell 'em :)
I buy 'em :D
(well, okay, I want too)
speaking of that, we could use some votes over here:
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Amateur Radio

Proposed Q&A site for amateur radio enthusiasts

Currently in definition.

 
that could be neat...
 
1:57 AM
could be neat? :O
it really needs some votes though :/
one question has 9, two with 8..
 
voted on two i liked that were below ten. i didn't understand one of the 9 point ones (it's not my thing) and the other was just goofy (does different metal present different charteristics when making an antenna is a yes or no question...and the answer is yes)
 
that's true...
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Thanks for the votes :D
 
2:15 AM
Ugh ... Exam on Friday.
 
another question that has been edited into a new question: askubuntu.com/posts/249939/revisions
 
@Seth It's the user who asked the question, so I'd give the benefit of the doubt that assumes this was just clarification.
 
shrug
 
the answer: don't use gnome classic...switch to xfce or something
 
ah good grief.
Finding questions to answer is getting harder these days...
 
2:19 AM
:)
 
ooh prettier close/dupe interface....nice
 
yeah, but it doesn't accept questions without an answer...
 
 
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3:26 AM
Silence is the lack of audible sound or presence of sounds of very low intensity. By analogy, the word silence can also refer to any absence of communication, including in media other than speech. Silence is also used as total communication, in reference to non verbal communication and spiritual connection. Silence also refers to no sounds uttered by anybody in a room or area. Silence is an important factor in many cultural spectacles, as in rituals. In discourse analysis, speakers use brief absences of speech to mark the boundaries of prosodic units. Silence in speech can be hesitation...
 
Boo!
Silence is the lack of audible sound or presence of sounds of very low intensity. By analogy, the word silence can also refer to any absence of communication, including in media other than speech. Silence is also used as total communication, in reference to non verbal communication and spiritual connection. Silence also refers to no sounds uttered by anybody in a room or area. Silence is an important factor in many cultural spectacles, as in rituals. In discourse analysis, speakers use brief absences of speech to mark the boundaries of prosodic units. Silence in speech can be hesitation...
 
lol
Preposterous. Merely preposterous
 
3:46 AM
interesting comment....
 
i wonder if the maxe3421e usb host shield pinout leaves out pins that are needed to support peripheral mode or if it's just not supported in the code...nobody has an answer and it's loads of reading...guess i'm reading
o/ @mateo_salta
 
all these posts with 'i'... well, I guess that's edits for me :D
 
i don't know...it's not worth pressing shift in chat, but in a qa i capitalize properly ;)
 
lol
that's like @GeorgeEdison 's mailing list...
 
o/ @AbrahamVanHelpsing
 
3:52 AM
@Seth fo' sho'
 
it drives to crazy though.
@AbrahamVanHelpsing >_>
lol
 
so @Seth you running for mod?
 
probably not... still in the air unfortunately. I know, I know.
 
well, that's cool, I think you seem well balanced and would be good. Where I have some obsessive tendencies...
@GeorgeEdison what if It didn't automatically go to the next step on the wizard, ie showing the progress and displaying "done" so the user presses next or back. If you hit back it will go back to the "done" screen, something like that maybe.
 
4:38 AM
and the datasheet says the pinout is different for host and peripheral mode :(
connected pins. not pinout. you know what i meant. anyway.
 
so is there a way to switch them, hack a cable?
 
i'm comparing the host schematic with the chip datasheet to see if i all the chip pins i need are broken out so i can just chop/wire around/add a resistor-or-whatever here or there and make the host shield act like a peripheral shield
you'ld think this would have been solved on forums already, but every thread i can find that references it ends in crickets.
HE SOLVED IT black suburbans show up or similar
also...phones with the volume buttons on the left should invert their functionality when orientation changes. left button being volume up is counter-intuitive.
 
4:54 AM
do you turn your phone to the left or right?
 
my slider phone orientation change for extending the keyboard puts the volume up button to the outer-bottom-left. make sense how i think it's backwards?
 
Japanese(company maker) phone?
 
no, us ATT prepaid. this guy: walmart.com/ip/…
 
@Seth I don't have one for that matter.
 
CD cases are also a design that aren't thought about in great detail with left/right in mind. have you ever had a cd booklet snag on those little tabs. (if you slide the booklet in backwards it slides perfectly)
 
5:17 AM
anyway...after comparing it looks like it might be doable with a little modification. the host shield shows all pins connected to SOMETHING but it might need some flywires
if i get it working i feel a blog article coming on
 
@Seth, re. "all these posts with 'i'...". There's a major newspaper in India that advocates the use of 'i'. I wonder to what extent that influences posters from India :( . Plus there's the carryover of SMS habits with "autocomplete" being another nail in the coffin.
 
@vasa1 What newspaper is that?
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Is this the usb you are talking about: maximintegrated.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/3782
@vasa1 I saw someone editing out capital "I" once on a question, in the review.
 
@jokerdino, The Times of India. You'll see that especially on the editorial page.
 
@mateo_salta That's the chip yes. It's surface mount and I don't have a nice soldering station...so I was looking for a way to use the normal arduino host shield as a peripheral shield. The chip supports it, it seems the shield does not
 
5:22 AM
Good thing we stopped buying ToI.
 
@mateo_salta, I hope it wasn't me ;)
@jokerdino, but it's value for money when sold as scrap. You get back the subscription amount that way. I take ToI + ET.
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing oh, sounds interesting, now it makes sense.
 
@vasa1 Hindu here.
 
@jokerdino That's pretty decent. Not available readily in Bombay. I used to read The Hindu when I was studying in Madurai (MKU) and then in Chennai (ACT).
 
That's a pity actually. I think Hindu is probably the better English daily here.
 
Good thing the final version is fixed. Thanks for that @mateo.
 
5:52 AM
pretty sure the comment will work. if someone wants to test it so they qualify for the bounty: askubuntu.com/questions/248504/…
 
 
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6:53 AM
Hi everyone! Could someone please tell me if you can see this video all right? http://vimeo.com/58498712#
It gets all blurred horizontally for me
At first I thought it was due to some HTML5 glitch, but it is being played by flash.
 
7:43 AM
Wah! @jokerdino, @JourneymanGeek, whoever...! Y U NO WORK ON MY TABLET?!
 
7:59 AM
@Mochan What's not working?
 
Some Nvidia driver seems to kill people's desktop.
 
8:21 AM
@Takkat: kill how?
 
They boot into TTY
 
I was having trouble with the propitary driver cause for some reason dkms stopped pulling the kernel headers in as a prerequisite
 
I installed the -experimental and had the same issue. Just purging helped. It jockey-text still around in 12.10?
 
i do think so
@Takkat: install kernel headers and try
 
<-- forced on Windows here at work atm
It is still there - good to know.
 
9:12 AM
Mornin'
@Mochan Because it doesn't like you.
 
@IgorZinov'yev looks fine to me.
 
@gertvdijk Well, then there's something wrong with my box. Thanks!
 
 
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10:23 AM
Silence is the lack of audible sound or presence of sounds of very low intensity. By analogy, the word silence can also refer to any absence of communication, including in media other than speech. Silence is also used as total communication, in reference to non verbal communication and spiritual connection. Silence also refers to no sounds uttered by anybody in a room or area. Silence is an important factor in many cultural spectacles, as in rituals. In discourse analysis, speakers use brief absences of speech to mark the boundaries of prosodic units. Silence in speech can be hesitation...
 
10:46 AM
appears
@Mochan YU NO GIVE US UR TABLET? ;)
 
I'm pondering getting a nexus 7
 
@JourneymanGeek It's awesome. Based on my research
 
11:27 AM
@AmithKK: Yeah. I have to budget for it thp ;p
 
11:47 AM
I screwed up my reject reason here (I meant to say "not disabled the password.") So the situation is worse than it would have been if I'd gotten it right or (wrongly) accepted the edit. Can someone review this (and either accept or reject) to help pull it out of the hole of confusion I've accidentally put it in?
 
12:00 PM
This is pretty nice
 
1:12 PM
^^ "needs have change considerably." <-- typo should be changed
 
jrg
Man, the suspense is killing me with that.
I will also note that the skunkworks people have disappeared. This the way its supposed to be? ;-)
 
1:35 PM
@jrg yeah just saw a similar article. It's indeed a hor-ri-ble idea!
 
Oli
1:49 PM
@JourneymanGeek Not sure about mine tbh. I had a SGS2 (running JB) before I bought my N7 and given the choice again, I'd probably save my money (read: waste it on something else). It's just a bigger screen for me. Sometimes that's nice (and using my SGS2 straight after the N7 makes the SGS2 screen look like a toy) but I don't think there's anything I do on the tablet that I don't still do — and do quite happily — on my phone.
 
Wait is there an election!!?!?
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@smartboyhw yes! But we're not waiting for you. ;) Its nomination phase is starting in a few hours.
 
@gertvdijk I need to nominate @RolandTaylor
 
Gui
@RolandiXor for president!
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2:04 PM
Word "shell script" is so 90s. Borat evolve with times, now call them shell apps.
 
jrg
2:23 PM
shell apps. OK.jpg
 
hey guys, could somebody help me how to resize /dev/xvda1?
 
2:39 PM
@Oli: well, my main phone is a HTC one V
and planning on getting the non 3g version
 
@jrg or @Olli or @marcoceppi Hey can one of you guys blog the announcement of the election so it gets up on planet ubuntu?
 
@jrg or @Oli or @marcoceppi It will be good to announce it on Ubuntu Forums too.
 
XD
wrong room ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek !?
 
moved to the mod election room ;p
 
jrg
3:02 PM
@JorgeCastro i'll do it once it's started.
still have 4 hours
 
3:15 PM
ya
remember it's like a 10 minute delay to planet usually too
you still octopressing?
 
jrg
yeah
still octopressing.
 
hey so I am digging this cloudpress thing
it's a fork with all the cloud stuff baked in
it's nice, I enabled cloudfront and everything
 
jrg
i'm just using stock octo with a side of heroku.
costs me $10/year for the domain, and that's it. :P
 
Hi
@jrg are you running for President?
We would make a smashing ticket
 
jrg
@RolandiXor yeah, you'd smash the babys when you kiss them.
 
3:28 PM
O_o
 
Gui
I think I will run for Pope...
Oh wait... I am not even Catholic...
 
that is a cardinal requirement
 
Gui
@JourneymanGeek... yeah... but they won't let me in... something about "being the spawn of Satan"
 
3:46 PM
Hahaha
o_o
 
Look at the comments of this post, the OP seems to be very obstinate!
 
Gui
@RolandiXor sup bro?
 
jrg
3:59 PM
@JourneymanGeek HAHAH. What you did there, I see it.
 
What means if I see a Unregistered on a user profile?
 
jrg
means they didn't confirm their email.
 
Gui
@Lucio which means they A: are ignoring the email or B: put in an invalid email address
@jrg gonna jailbreak your ipod today?
 
@Gui Oh, I see.. @jrg thanks for that
 
jrg
@Gui unlikely.
 
Gui
4:03 PM
I might... I haven't decided yet...
 
jrg
@Gui well, ok, possibly.
i haven't seen if i can get an ssh server on it.
and if so, what i can do with it.
 
@Lucio yeah :)
 
Gui
Yeah I don't know if there are any "real benefits" for me...
 
jrg
because that's the only reason i'm considering rooting the n7.
 
@gertvdijk There aren't flags for post like that, isn't? I mean, you have to create a summary in the other options.
 
Gui
4:05 PM
@jrg did you enjoy the Super Bowl last night?
 
jrg
@Gui nope. didn't watch.
 
Gui
Oh okay.... thought maybe you did with your tweets...
 
@Gui yo
 
jrg
betty whites new show was on, so we watched a bunch of old people play jokes on young people.
 
@Lucio yup. But I don't know if we have to flag it in the first place. Couldn't find a AU meta post for that
 
jrg
4:06 PM
no, just followed along on twitter.
 
Gui
@jrg the power went out... that was pretty much the most exciting part of the game...
 
I'm just chillin
 
Gui
@RolandiXor cool
 
jrg
@Gui hence the real fun i had with that.
 
wallowing in a puddle of... something
 
Gui
4:07 PM
@jrg to bad the power didn't go out on beyonce\Destiny's Child
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Some abstract psychological construct.
 
Gui
@RolandiXor I hope chocolate syrup?
 
@Gui That happened while playing?
 
@Gui lol I wish :D
 
Gui
@Lucio yeah at the beginning of the 3rd qtr
 
4:07 PM
BTW I'm using (and liking) KDE!
The world is ending!
 
jrg
i saw a good one of the security though.
 
Gui
They got like 3 (?) plays in then BOOM!
@RolandiXor I am using Windows 7 and it is meh...
 
jrg
i saw pictures of a nice snipers nest on twitter
 
Gui
lol snipers nest?
 
@Gui And they didn't score! Well, there was a good opportunity to do so.. :D
 
jrg
4:09 PM
 
Gui
@Lucio it actually went out as they where lining up... so it wasn't an active play...
He should have shot Ray Lewis...
 
jrg
ok, so i'm watching the half time show. i'm about 2 minutes in, and i'm not sure what this is.
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Gui
Whoops did I say that out loud?
 
jrg
madonna was better.
 
Gui
@jrg I haven't been impressed with the halftime show selections in the past 10 years?
 
jrg
4:11 PM
@Gui there was a good one like 2 years ago
black eyed peas was good.
 
Gui
Yuck... BEP are one of my least favorite groups, and Fergie or whatever her name is is just stupid...
 
@jrg Oh, I saw that one. It was the first one for me :P
 
jrg
only because of that one tron person who didn't turn off his light suit.
 
Gui
Tom Petty was pretty cool though...
and the Rolling Stones..
But that was probably before you where born...
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jrg
probably
 
Gui
4:15 PM
You where born what? like 2000?
 
jrg
96
that halftime show was weird, just closed the window. /me sighs
 
Gui
Yeah yeah... that was a bad year for me...
I entered High School...
 
jrg
the doritos ads were good, as always.
 
Gui
Yeah did you see the Miracle Montana Stain?
 
What's the awesome thing about these super bowl ads?
 
jrg
4:18 PM
@AmithKK they cost about 4 million for 30 seconds of airtime.
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so the advertisers make them as memorable as they can make them.
 
That's damn awesome
 
@AmithKK jokes about fat people
 
Gui
@AmithKK @jrg I can think of a few better ways that advertisers could spend 4 million dollars
 
Yeah like, save :P
 
jrg
@Gui :+1:
that's good.
 
4:20 PM
Hey @Iszi
 
jrg
@Gui uh, maybe. i get my 4 million out of those dorito ads though.
 
Long time no see :P
 
jrg
the car ads can be funny.
 
Windows ads?
 
@AmithKK Greetings.
 
jrg
4:20 PM
the godaddy ads are when i start losing my temper. stupid sleazy scumbags.
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@AmithKK nope.
 
0
Q: No root password and no sudoers

Steve MetzlerYikes, I have no root password and I accidentally took sudoer privlages out of the only account left...Any suggestions?

GREAT questions have GREAT answers
 
BBT
Good Night
 
:O How can upvote that??
 
@Lucio Three words
Single User Mode
 
@SteveMetzler What do you think? Yes, the user said fix the issues. THAT is the key :P
 
Gui
4:32 PM
@jrg yeah the godaddy ads have hit a new low...
 
jrg
@Gui yessir
 
Gui
The school buys domain/hosting from them... I hate it...
 
4:46 PM
Ok thanks, I didn't know it, but that's not the way to tell me by downgrading the question, as it is a valid question. you could tell about this issue in the comments section. — IConfused 59 secs ago
This is the comment section. — gertvdijk 30 secs ago
sigh. Not even a new user. SO user for 6 months.
 
"Ignorance is bliss." taken a little too far.
 
@gertvdijk Sorry, I don't know why but I found this very funny :)
 
@Lucio yeah, I find it hard to believe that he actually thinks these comments are answers
 
@gertvdijk Well, their name is quite fitting, don't you think?
 
@FEichinger yeah, he's confused
 
4:54 PM
@gertvdijk There is. Build a font with it. Distribute it. Override it in browser. :P
 
@FEichinger yeah, then also post instructions to install the font to readers.
 
@gertvdijk Ahyup.
 
back
 
Gui
front
 
Gui
5:55 PM
@jrg jailbreak super easy...
 
jrg
@GUI so just do it?
 
Gui
@jrg I would...
or should I say I did...
 
jrg
ok.
 
Gui
The hardest part was getting the tool to download...
 
jrg
the servers getting hammered?
 
Gui
5:57 PM
and I had to use an XP machine
If you can't get it I will put it on dropbox
 
jrg
OK.
 
@JorgeCastro @MarcoCeppi @oli @jrg, i have written up the blog post about our mod election.
 
jrg
excellent!
 
it will be up on the planet 30 minutes after UTC 8 pm
 
jrg
heh. ok
 
Gui
5:59 PM
@jrg just let me know
 
I hope I scheduled it just 30 minutes after election starting up.
Now, that would be my nights.
 
6:58 PM
@gertvdijk ྥ <kind-of looks like a facepalm
 ᕠᕡ
 ᕰ
Unicode characters are fun. ᖛ ᖜ
☕ Coffee!
 
now thats cool!
 
jrg
oh man, the nexus 7 doesn't ship with openssh-server by default. :(
 
@mateo_salta lol
 
7:13 PM
ugh, Skype is so big.
30 MB
 
7:29 PM
Yes, it's proprietary junk. Statically compiled junk. Crashing junk.
 
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Q: lxc-unfreeze does not resume the guest if the host is rebooted

ChrisDoes a guest that has been frozen with lxc-freeze survive a reboot of the host? I.e. after rebooting the host, can the guest be unfrozen with lxc-unfreeze

 
Haven't done that in a while
 
jrg
Feels good, doesn't it?
/me moves them right back here.
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muscle flex
 
jrg
@Gui wrong window.
 
Gui
8:11 PM
Oh crap.., lol
 
I'm just going to abuse my mod powers for the next few weeks during the election, so all the candidates think it's awesome. Then when they get elected, they will be wrong.
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jrg
should we merge all the candidates together?
 
@jrg YES.
 
muscle flex
 
8:12 PM
narrow eyes you're a blue, but you're a different shade of blue...
 
jrg
@MarcoCeppi we never did figure out what happens if you merge two users.
50 shades of blue.
(or bikeshed.)
 
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Q: 2013 Community Moderator Election

CommunityThe 2013 Community Moderator Election is now underway! Community moderator elections have three phases: Nomination phase Primary phase Election phase Most elections take between two and three weeks, but this depends on how many candidates there are. Please visit the official election page a...

 
8:47 PM
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Q: Duplicate Community Bulletin election entries

ObsessiveSSOℲBrowsing the meta site, I came across this little oddity: As you can see, there are two election entries. Wouldn't it be better to just have a single link for the entire election, as the nominations are readily visible from there? Or, even better, use something like: event 2013 Community...

 
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