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aking1012

12:08 AM

o/ @la

George Edison

@JorgeCastro Is it possible to get a tracking number?

aking1012

@GeorgeEdison I'ld be happy to follow it if I was sure it was going to present relevant to my interests type data...what types of things are intended to be posted there?

George Edison

@aking1012 Site status updates and new features.

Basically only stuff related to the site itself.

aking1012

@GeorgeEdison Okay. So you're making a JS specific editor and that is what the site is about? or each of your software projects like you have in that left tab there?

George Edison

No, JS Studio is just one of the many software applications listed there.

There's also a mini-blog integrated into the site.

aking1012

12:21 AM

Okay... it seemed prolific/featured. I'll follow it and if it turns out to be not something I'm interested in, just unfollow it. seems pretty simple

George Edison

Excellent.

aking1012

12:40 AM

@lazyPower - there's a recent blog article you might find interesting...I seem to think your focus area is web-apps and it's relevant

lazyPower

Oh?

do tell

aking1012

well, it was a me blog article...but still. i think it's relevant

George Edison

@lazyPower Hopefully you've heard my exciting news.

lazyPower

1:04 AM

Awesome @GeorgeEdison!!

George Edison

Thanks!

If you register, you get the ability to vote for stuff, comment, and a free OpenID.

aking1012

Neat...I saw that when you mentioned it so I started picking back through G+

lazyPower

I saw :)

lazyPower

1:40 AM

@aking1012 - I'm glad you see the awesomeness. Take a look at the NovaCut UI if you haven't already - Jason & co has implemented the UI in pure portable HTML5 / Webkit awesomeness.

George Edison

2:51 AM

Tsk tsk tsk.

ajmitch

3:32 AM

@GeorgeEdison what, you're shocked that there are such sites online?

George Edison

I'm shocked that there are so many people in the forum.

There are always weird people promoting weird things online.

ajmitch

yeah

I've read some interesting conspiracy stuff

Some people come across as rather detached from reality

George Edison

3:57 AM

Same goes for those who deny the moon landings.

jokerdino

Is FF 13 released yet?

George Edison

4:33 AM

I believe so.

My Firefox is downloading an update as I speak.

Oy! Firefox opens this 3x3 grid in each new tab.

(Where have I seen that before?)

jokerdino

LOL, it is a new feature.

Takkat

6:01 AM

Hi all

jokerdino

6:11 AM

hi @Takkat

izx

6:55 AM

@Takkat - edited that SSD answer of yours to explain a little more in the first paragraph about why changes to the loop-mount ext3 are not directly reflected in the root.disk, feel free to fix it further if you need it :)

Takkat

@izx great edit :)

Thank you.

Mitch

8:57 AM

Hello all

I just downloaded what is described as Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) Daily Build, and installed it into VM, but it says that it is 12.04. What gives?

jokerdino

They haven't updated that part I think.

Mitch

K

brb

jokerdino

9:55 AM

hi @adempewolff and other others

Ask Ubuntu Meta

10:40 AM

0

Q: How do i move my question to a different SE?

I've asked a question and after a couple of days thinking on it (and seeing low viewing) I suspect I might get better/faster results by moving it to Unix SE. So how do I do this or request this?

0

Q: HTTPS: Certificate is not signed for askubuntu.com

If I try to access https://askubuntu.com, the certificate is signed for *.stackexchange.com instead of askubuntu.com. Can this be fixed for a better HTTPS access?

bug

Mitch

@jokerdino Thanks :) it was my big fingers

jokerdino

it's alright.

Mitch

@izx I`m waiting to hear from the user, about his Internet access. What do you suggest?

Questions Feed

Bounty offered: Why is 12.04 removing the -server kernel flavour? http://askubuntu.com/questions/122493/why-is-12-04-removing-the-server-kernel-flavour?atw=1 #server

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on June 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Mitch

10:58 AM

As far as this question goes: askubuntu.com/questions/147176/…

Why the down-vote? The user has not responded about his Internet connection. Plus the error "Error: need a repository as argument" doesn`t say no Internet connectivity

jokerdino

because your answer is not suitable for the question.

the user has limited bandwidth.

Mitch

The user just responded, saying that he has Internet connectivity, but its limited

But he has Internet connectivity

jokerdino

so what? he is trying to not waste bandwidth downloading packages when the packages are available to him in a DVD.

Amith KK

Hello all

jokerdino

@AmithKK LTNS

Amith KK

11:02 AM

wha?

Lateral Telescope Navigation System?

jokerdino

long time no see XD

Mitch

That OK, but that doesn`t mean that my answer is totally wrong. Does it?

jokerdino

it is incorrect because it doesn't answer the question.

Mitch

I modified to so it will work both ways per izx

Amith KK

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Q: Why is Ubuntu 12.04 removing -server kernel flavour?

Ubuntu is removing -server flavour, as specified on release notes of 12.04 Beta2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta2#Ubuntu_Kernel As with Beta-1, the Beta-2 kernel no longer carries separate amd64 -server and -generic kernel flavors. These have been merged into a...

kernel

Your close votes are needed

8

Q: Why is 12.04 removing the -server kernel flavour?

Ubuntu is removing -server flavour, as specified on release notes of 12.04: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure-1.Kernel As with Beta-1, the Beta-2 kernel no longer carries separate amd64 -server ...

12.04 server kernel

jokerdino

11:15 AM

@Mitch no, sudo apt-cdrom won't help

sudo apt-cdrom -d <DVD mount point>

Mitch

can I modify the answer, and add that in it? Or would want to do it, since you spplied it

jokerdino

yeah go ahead.

izx

@Mitch: the downvote wasn't me; thanks @jokerdino for the proper syntax, I was on my phone and assumed Mitch would look it up and supply an appropriate command line.

jokerdino

for the record, I didn't downvote it either.

izx

The Q's language was so convoluted I didn't blame folks for misunderstanding what the OP was trying to say.

jokerdino

11:20 AM

@AmithKK got it. thanks.

Mitch

@jokerdino I know. Thanks

izx

Another is this one:

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Q: How can I enable one-finger scrolling in Unity?

I would like to activate to scroll with one finger inside the Unity environment(nautilus, Dash, Firefox). Because Unity claims to be touch screen friendly but scrolling with two fingers is annoying and doesn't work so well.

unity scrolling

I fully expect someone to downvote my answer about scrollbars saying he meant auto-scrolling like Windows used to do or something, too tired to ask for clarification right now. I've learned over the last few days (thanks to chat+meta) not to get too riled up about downvotes and just move on :)

jokerdino

@izx i thought he was talking about the touch interface.

and @Mitch i doubt the user would understand what <DVD mount point> supposed to mean.

izx

@jokerdino isn't that just the overlay scrollbars?

jokerdino

i never tried a tablet or something, so I don't know what is the question or what would be a good answer.

Takkat

11:27 AM

@izx There is a hot discussion going on on that: bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/942498

Whenever I touch my monitor it tilts over. The harder I try the more so.

izx

@Takkat thanks - unity doesnt support ip*-device style "flick" scrolling on touch screens?!

Takkat

11:44 AM

Dunno - I have no touch devices.

<-- always yells at his kids: Don't touch that screen!

They are so ahead of their time...

(well, they'd say their dad is retarded)

Amith KK

►

Hahhaah

"Metal Sonic disliked this video."

@Takkat lolz

Mitch

@jokerdino I just updated the answer. Can you see if its OK? Thanks for all you help

aking1012

@Takkat I'm looking at one of these: amazon.com/10-2-Superpad3-Flytouch-ePad-Tablet/dp/B00520MST4

Amith KK

@Takkat Buy them a Genesis and a Sonic and Knuckles+Sonic 3 Cartridge and lock them in a room :P

@aking1012 Hey!

That can run Uberoid

Takkat

@aking1012 it's 2.2 only... can you istall Ubuntu on it?

Amith KK

11:50 AM

Not a bad mod if you ask me

@Takkat Kinda sorta

I've failed in my attempts at a similar tablet

almost bricked it

aking1012

@Takkat I'm not sure

Amith KK

@aking1012 --^

@aking1012 Do they use the WM8650?

aking1012

according to the specs on amazon yes

Amith KK

Oh, its the same processor.

It works quite good

if you mod it

aking1012

wait what? amazon has an android app-store now??

Journeyman Geek

11:56 AM

they've had one for quite a while

Takkat

This is not too expensive: odys.de/web/tablet-pc_neo-x7_en.html

Amith KK

I wish SEGA ported Sonic Generations to Linux

►

The linux fanbase will be over 9000

jokerdino

@Mitch looks better but I can't tell for sure.

aking1012

@AmithKK Wasn't there some blender based FOSS game with a Dog that was mostly PoC for making OSS based games?

Amith KK

@aking1012 I forget

aking1012

12:04 PM

Seems like there was and it was set up to be a less directed free movement type of thing...could have easily turned in to a sonic clone though

Open source user moddable diablo nostalgia, yes please: clintbellanger.net/rpg/screenshots.php

Amith KK

I need a sonic model with rigging done

aking1012

There are loads of rigging tutorials. If you start with makehuman, you get a rigged biped really fast...but then you have to manipulate it a lot to get a cartoony character. faster to just rig one you made

Amith KK

Seriously?

So.. I call upon you @RolandTaylor

aking1012

Makehuman makes, well, humans with all the rigging and what-not done. Hair doesn't work well though

Amith KK

Alrighty, now for some python

I still don't know how to achieve this

I have this code

def getstudentheight():
 global height;
 global name;
 print("Student Name");
 name=input();
 print("Student Height");
 height=float(input());

@aking1012 How can I like use the same def to get the height of like x students?

aking1012

12:18 PM

'''
'''

class students:
    '''
    '''
    def __init__(self):
        '''
        '''
        self.students = []

    def add_student(self, a_student):
        '''
        '''
        self.students.append(a_student)


my_list = students()
print my_list.students

or print my_list.students[:x]

@AmithKK I'ld call that set_student_height though...you're not getting, you're setting from the script's perspective

Amith KK

@aking1012 right

your a genius

So, that's like an array?

And I can like get the greatest height and link it to a student?

aking1012

that's a for loop.

there really should be a dict to list conversion function built in to python

aking1012

12:36 PM

@AmithKK paste.ubuntu.com/1026737

didn't test it, but it probably works

Amith KK

I just realised that nobody is safe on another persons network

Journeyman Geek

unless you tunnel everything

Amith KK

Yeah

@aking1012 I'm no programmer but

What does _init_ do?

aking1012

it's what runs when you do this ` my_list = students()` ... so it makes sure self.students exists, so you don't try to append to a non-existent attribute

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: What are the total number of keywords used in the linux?

I'm the new one to use the linux.I want to learn the total number of keywords especially in the linux. Can you any one give me the web link or url to learn the keywords using in the linux.Thanks to be patience while reading the question.

linux ubuntu

0

Q: What is the difference between Unix and Linux?

i'm the very new one to this platform. So i want to know the main differences between the Unix and Linux ?

linux ubuntu

aking1012

12:49 PM

@AmithKK otherwise you're stuck doing something like checking if it exists every time you want to use it...much more proper to just declare it in init

Lord of Time

uhm.... why are random questions for linux being tagged for Ubuntu on U&L

aking1012

Oh @Lord

@LordofTime I think the first one is a re-ask of one we have over here...and I think the second is a dupe

Lord of Time

ah

well FLAG THEM

already submitted edits to remove the ubuntu tags

aking1012

23

Q: Is Linux a Unix?

So, there are lots of different versions of Unix out there: HP-UX, AIX, BSD, etc. Linux is considered a Unix clone rather than an implementation of Unix. Are all the "real" Unices actual descendants of the original? If not, what separates Linux from Unix?

linux unix history

Amith KK

amith@amith-desktop:~$ python students.py
Student Name: Amith
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "students.py", line 45, in <module>
    my_list.set_student_height()
  File "students.py", line 25, in set_student_height
    name=input("Student Name: ")
  File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'Amith' is not defined

@aking1012 :D

aking1012

12:56 PM

I gave you the majority of your homework assignment, just finish it

Amith KK

Lolwhat? Homework Assignment :P

Lord of Time

o.O

looks like you're not getting input right

Amith KK

It would be uber cool if they taught python at school

Lord of Time

:P

some schools do

Amith KK

Name some

Lord of Time

12:57 PM

"Advanced Computer Science for Linux" is the name of a course that teaches python at my university

Amith KK

Near here

Lord of Time

i'm not near you so bleh

:P

aking1012

The MIT intro to programming course is python. It's free on-line

Lord of Time

link

aking1012

@UbuntuQuestionsonUL askubuntu.com/questions/144938/…

Amith KK

12:58 PM

@aking1012 linkie please

aking1012

@AmithKK ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/…

Amith KK

Yes, I feel lazy today

Thanks for everything @aking1012

np

BBL

o/ @jrg

1:06 PM

Morning

Lord of Time

bleh

well, at least you didnt say "good morning"

since that is the universal contradiction:

aking1012

@LordofTime top of the morning to you too (good morning is considered bad luck in some cultures)

Lord of Time

Nothing Good can come from a Morning

jokerdino

FF 13 sucks memory!!!111

aking1012

@jokerdino orly? whoulda thunk it?!?

Lord of Time

1:09 PM

and now you know why i dont use it :P

jrg

@jokerdino don't say that to Roland.

Lord of Time

will he rage about it?

jokerdino

FF 12 was running at 280 MB and FF 13 peaks at north of 450 MB.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Installing a gedit plugin on Fedora

I have been trying to install a gedit plugin called RunC to compile C programs using the text editor. Although the instructions tell me to use ubuntu 9 or 10 for this, I'm currently running Fedora 16. I thought that I would not have much problems, but after running the shell script using the sh ...

shell ubuntu fedora gedit

jokerdino

@UbuntuQuestionsonUL Why on earth is it tagged Ubuntu?!?

aking1012

1:14 PM

I think someone is just being a pain. 3 not really ubuntu questions in the last 10 minutes

jrg

want the U&L bot gone then?

jokerdino

I say yes.

aking1012

I'm fine with it either way, it's just my opinion that it might be someone(s) that thinks the two should be merged

Lord of Time

people are using the ubuntu tag in passing

i think we should go have a talk with their mods

because it ends up spamming here

</annoyed>

although having said this, it does get me +2 rep for each edit i make of it to remove that tag XD

aking1012

alternately it could be that some users know if they tag it that way it will get more exposure here...so it's mixed bag i guess

Lord of Time

1:18 PM

the spam is the issue

i dont like it

should still probably yell at their mods :p

jrg

don't, it's "our" fault because we added the feed to the room

jokerdino

Firefox-Nightly is less hungry than the stable release. sigh

Lord of Time

@jrg i meant with the "ubuntu" tag being used incorrectly

jrg

@LordofTime oh, do we nag our mods about the [error] tag being used incorrectly?

jokerdino

@jrg good idea.

adempewolff

1:23 PM

@jokerdino I gave up on Firefox a couple weeks ago and started using Chrome again

Lord of Time

@jrg i thought we eradicated the error tag

jrg

@jokerdino.... I already destroy at least 30-40 q's a day with that tag. Don't make me feel bad about that.

Lord of Time

and did you create the alias for symbolic-link such that [symlink] -> [symbolic-link]

jrg

@LordofTime nope

I did get the symlink one iirc

aking1012

@adempewolff I like FF for general browsing, but webkit based just has better HTML5 support

Lord of Time

1:24 PM

@jrg doesnt seem that way

jokerdino

@adempewolff I would have used Chrome but it doesn't have that 'native' look. but i could hop again if I don't like the way it is currently going.

jrg

@LordofTime hm.

aking1012

@jokerdino chromium looks relatively native

jrg

@jokerdino just hack chrome and make it use the gtk theme

@LordofTime just did it

jokerdino

@aking1012 will try it then. thanks for the tip.

Lord of Time

1:27 PM

yep, thanks

jrg

see, that's why you need to post these things on meta. Otherwise, we don't see it/we forget about it/etc

jokerdino

@jrg that's a joke right?

jrg

@jokerdino No. Chrome settings > Personal

adempewolff

@jokerdino Oh I meant Chromium. Chrome is a hideous blue color. Chromium fits in a lot better.

Lord of Time

@jrg cba to do that though :P

jrg

1:27 PM

Lord of Time

not for minor synonyms

jrg

@LordofTime Then don't complain about it. ;P

Lord of Time

@jrg if i were a god user, i'd just do it myself

but alas i'm not :p

adempewolff

@jrg you can also just right click on the title bar to switch back and forth

jokerdino

@jrg ah, that one. i think i have it enabled.

Lord of Time

1:28 PM

(besides, meta lags more than AU)

jrg

@adempewolff That only works for "Use system title bars and borders", not GTK+ theme

jokerdino

@adempewolff chrome is not blue. but I have both of them installed.

adempewolff

@jrg right, misunderstood the question

jrg

@LordofTime well then, that sounds like a you problem.

Lord of Time

don't go there

seriously don't go there

Jorge Castro

1:29 PM

buenas mornings

Lord of Time

hiya @Jorge

how goes the universe

adempewolff

@jokerdino I feel like the original linux port was. I remember being horrified. Oh, I see, "use classic" produces the hideous blue theme. The default is "Use GTK+" which is not hideous blue.

Lord of Time

:P

jokerdino

@adempewolff alright. i am going to try the 8 different browsers I have installed in my computer.

jrg

Chrome by default is blue.

aking1012

1:31 PM

@JorgeCastro morning

jokerdino

@adempewolff @jrg ah, i was mistakenly talking about the icon.. ugh, the default theme is ugly blue indeed.

jrg

@jokerdino oh, i use the Faenza iconset, so I wouldn't notice.

adempewolff

@jokerdino I can't vouch for the Chrome icon, but the Chromium one fits in quite well I think.

jokerdino

whoever wrote the rmadison tool is awesome.

Questions Feed

Bounty offered: No iBus icon in Kubuntu 12.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/138406/no-ibus-icon-in-kubuntu-12-04?atw=1 #kubuntu

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on June 6, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Lord of Time

1:46 PM

@jokerdino Agreed

aking1012

why, oh why, does the writer of learning HTML5 game programming extensively use java? wasn't getting away from java, flash, et al kind of the point of html5?

Jorge Castro

@jrg hey

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Q: The future of the applications/software tag(s)

To my mind applications, application and software is useless - there is no clear meaning to them. Some questions should be tagged software-recommendations instead, but on other questions there is no need for it at all. Should every question about any application be tagged with one of these? I th...

discussion support tags tag-synonyms tag-blacklist-request

was tag:software gone and came back?

or did we never get rid of it?

jokerdino

It was around for quite some time.

aking1012

No, These tags are awesome, administrative burden is my kind of thing. - @JorgeCastro you're so funny

jrg

@jokerdino um, no clue

looks like it never left

jokerdino

1:54 PM

pfft we got application, applications and software in our bag.

aking1012

I love well formed questions with polite askers: askubuntu.com/questions/147272/…

Jorge Castro

2:23 PM

@jrg for the "can't download wubi" ones I just flagged

0

Q: Am I missing the Windows installer? It keeps taking me to the same page and I keep running around in circles

Ok so going here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-with-windows takes you to here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer which takes you to here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download which takes you to here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installe...

installation windows downloads

this one has a nice workaround, perhaps a merge?

jrg

gotcha

Jorge Castro

man we had like 4 dupes of that, how did I miss them

jokerdino

i had a list of mass dupe questions.

one of them is the low quality mode questions.

Lord of Time

D U P E S M U S T D I E.

jokerdino

silly me, i have one of my posts among that mess

jrg

2:33 PM

@JorgeCastro if you have another bajillion dupes to get closed, just vote on them - i'll pick 'em up in /review on my lunch break.

jokerdino

ehehehee

jrg

no need to spend all your flags doing stuff like that.

Jorge Castro

k

Lord of Time

i have a lot of flags though :P

send em to me, i'll flag em

:P

jokerdino

i have some 40 flags for the day

Lord of Time

2:35 PM

already put a few flags in, has 33 left

jrg

i'm fighting a losing battle against that orange number, aren't I?

Lord of Time

yup

jokerdino

you could use a hand or two :P

I am just 2k short of that.

Lord of Time

well if/when i win the next moderator election, the flags handling system will have a lot less of the orange numbers >:)

ooh, i just got a boost in the number of flags

now has 45 available flags

FLAGGING TIME!!!!!! goes to /review

system: There are now 8 additional flags in the flags queue.

:P

Lord of Time

3:04 PM

@jrg there's flags to address :)

aking1012

3:17 PM

You know what would be neat? A payment proxy service. So you could say, translate paypal in to a credit card payment or vice-versa. I think it would be particularly useful for parts of the world that do not allow paypal.

Ubuntu relevance is that it came up on the app developer mailing list

Lord of Time

3:28 PM

there is no such thing as a payment proxy service

all money transactions need to be done directly

because of the regulation of money transfers

(and the privacy aspect)

aking1012

i know that's the reality of the thing. it's just in my opinion an out-moded form of regulation given the whole global economy thing

Lord of Time

<example of phishing>
well you could use a go between. Give me the money, then I'll forward that on to the banks you want to transfer the money to, so everything gets done.
</example of a phishing attempt which is VERY COMMON>

aking1012

agreed. that and you would essentially be a professional money mule. there would need to be a lot of validation/verification

Lord of Time

note, that's me just proving a point, not me trying to thieve from someone ;P

@aking1012 which doesn't happen. that's actually pretty illegal nowadays

at least in the US

aking1012

oh i know. think i'll hush now. it is mostly just a not possible, but it should be type of thing

Lord of Time

3:34 PM

indeed.

returns to fiddling around with Microsoft Visio

aking1012

3:52 PM

If anyone has any ideas, I'ld love to hear them:

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Q: Is there a way to emulate pinch-zoom?

I'm looking for a way to emulate pinch zoom in either an android emulator(android SDK-less desirable) or a (preferred) native Ubuntu web browser that I can resize to a specified size for initial testing of HTML5 applications. This is would be useful for first round testing during cross-platfor...

browser web zoom

Amith KK

Any of you guys getting the dropdown form on this page to load?

bsnl.sparshindia.com/complaintportal/LogComplaint.aspx

@aking1012 On a capacitive display?

aking1012

@AmithKK no, mouse only. like hotkey to set pinch point at cursor etc

@AmithKK if you want an answer on that, you need to specify some other link. i just get an error page since i don't have an existing session on that link

Amith KK

@aking1012 bsnl.sparshindia.com/complaintportal/…

aking1012

no the dropdown doesn't work for me either

if you go here: bsnl.sparshindia.com/complaintportal/complaintportalpage.aspx

Amith KK

I guess it's IE only

Looks like its peanut butter windows time

aking1012

3:57 PM

@AmithKK works on FF if you follow the link I dropped

Also, you can install IE through winetricks

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