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12:00 AM
@Jacob: Hey!
Welcome back!
I guess you saw my email... :)
Wait... it seems to be working now.
 
@GeorgeEdison just fixed
:P
 
@Jacob I'm getting a new error now.
"To log on to this remote computer, you must be granted the allow log on through terminal services right...."
 
@GeorgeEdison fixed
 
@Jacob mysqld crashed. (I got an alert saying that.)
 
@GeorgeEdison hmm ingore
 
12:10 AM
Should I send an error report?
 
@GeorgeEdison nope
 
@Jacob Okay. Ask Ubuntu Data Server is up and running again.
Also... I see a window "manage your server". Is that new?
 
@GeorgeEdison nope ignore that too
 
Will do.
Everything is fine then.
 
8 gb RAM on 64 bit processor using 32 bit ubuntu. http://bit.ly/lmep3N #64bit
 
12:31 AM
@Roland: I love that JS x86 emulator that runs Linux!
It has one small bug though... you can't kill init. :)
 
OK, I'm definitely having waaaaaayyyyyyy too much fun with oneiric.
still no overlay scrollbars in gnome-terminal. :(
 
12:56 AM
Caching is now in place.
 
@GeorgeEdison what JS x86 emulator do you speak of?
 
You have to wait a few seconds for it to start up.
 
it's amazing
 
It's really something. Wait 'till he adds network support!
 
Oh wow. . . i'll be wget'in' to my hearts content.
(rather than curlin')
 
1:01 AM
O.o
this is intense
 
@JamesGifford wget doesn't work yet.
 
Eh. It'll work.
eventually.
 
Does anybody have an idea on how to fix a youtube embed taking precedence on z-index rules and always being on top of whatever sub-elements are displayed?
eg: my jquery photo script on a client site is failing due to a youtube embed, its always popping under the youtube video, no matter the z-index value.
sitefinity.com/devnet/forums/sitefinity-3-x/… -- google to the rescue, jumped the gun on asking.
 
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Q: StackImage 2 - Create Your Own Unique Custom Flair!

George Edison Screenshot About StackImage 2 is the successor to StackImage - but it is anything but an incremental update. StackImage 2 allows you to design your very own unique custom flair from scratch. Just how customizable is StackImage 2? Well, you can... Set the size of the flair (both width and...

 
1:21 AM
Nice George!
hi5
 
1:54 AM
@GeorgeEdison @JamesGifford @lazyPower according to a simple ls /bin it seems to have rpm installed, so with network support and a little tweaking it might be possible for some serious action with it.
 
2:16 AM
@RolandTaylor RPM... really?
 
Yeah, I wish it was aptitude or dpkg :/
 
Me too. But either way... future potential.
I hope they keep developing it.
 
I hope so too, it really could be something big.
 
2:34 AM
@Jacob: I have something you might be interested in: stackimage2.quickmediasolutions.com
It's my newest creation - a custom flair designer.
 
@GeorgeEdison neat
 
 
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3:38 AM
Why is there a size discrepancy when copying from HFS+ to Ext4? http://bit.ly/kP1lwQ #filesystem
 
This app is hilarious:
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Q: Flack Overstow - Generate spam from Trilogy posts

Mark Rushakoff Screenshot / Code Snippet $ python flack.py 126042 Before 'if' statement... Past 'if' statement. Floating point exception on my system. So, you should check whether e is a very popular way to access Word and Excel documents. There's a line inside an expression like that; the simplest w...

Here is what I get for my Stack Overflow profile:
> "Turns out that the problem was that hair-pulling just because I was using Doxygen comments in your source code, you can easily generate documentation in Python."
> "In the application. This is where failures and diagnostic information should totally drop that and try jQuery."
And my favorite:
> "Python is a manageable-sized block of data to work with. You prevent malicious 4GB POST requests."
Some more good ones:
> " I haven't tried this, but you may be able to remove many of the sections, but these could not as difficult as it sounds and can be quite rewarding."
> "The dll contains headers, exports, and such things that make it completely impossible to do."
 
4:03 AM
@GeorgeEdison <3 I want this
 
@MarcoCeppi Isn't it hilarious?
 
@GeorgeEdison It rules
 
Last one for the road...
> "DEBUG - information related to internal processes or emacs."
 
4:50 AM
morning :)
 
@Rinzwind -----^
Your humor for the day :)
 
:D
 
5:06 AM
that's it for me \o cylaters :D
 
5:23 AM
@GeorgeEdison in C++ inheritance, the derived class will inherit all of the public and private members & methods of the bass class correct? if so, when i attempt to access the base class members, for example a method in base class setBalance() its telling me that its not declared in scope. Common mistakes in this area are?
 
Something like this:
> class test : public base
Hang on... I got confused...
Let's try that again.
When you inherit from a base class, you declare whether the methods in the base class become private or public.
Better example:
> class test : private base
 
morning
 
i have class CheckingAccount : public Account { ... }
 
This will force all of base's methods to become private within test.
@lazyPower Okay, that means that all public methods in Account will remain public in CheckingAccount.
 
and the particular method i'm accessing is declared as virtual void setBalance(double);
 
5:28 AM
Are you overriding that method in the derived class?
 
oh wait, i think i see the root f the problem here
i missed an error message. its telling me its expecting a class name before the { token on line 5, which is directly below the class declaration
 
Where is Account defined?
Are you missing an #include?
 
updated the last link with account.h
 
I'm afraid I don't see it.
 
... i didnt include account.h in the prototype
no wonder
pastebin.ca/2062973
oh look
 
5:32 AM
You need to add this right after the inclusion guards:
> #include "account.h"
 
yeah, after you asked if i missed an include i put 2 and 2 together
 
Otherwise the compiler doesn't know what the class you're deriving from is.
 
its building now ineed to check my project file :P I have qtcreator on all my pc's now.
 
It's similar (I think) to C#'s using directive.
 
i'm getting some real bad habbits working in asp.net, with the global-aspect of an app_code directory.
i dont have to include much when its in there, the classes become available
that and i'm deriving from about four base classes and just building on top of them
but i digress, thank you for pointing that out.
 
5:34 AM
No problem.
I'll get you to help me if I ever have a C# problem :P
 
:D
let us pray that day does not come soon ;) My C# skills are moderate at best.
however, pulling a site rewrite soon with C# MVC will be an interesting challenge.
porting an entire VB codebase over to C#
 
@lazyPower VB? Oh dear.
 
oh it gets worse
VB Webforms... gags
 
Shudders...
 
with idiotic view states and finicky MS Ajax and everything!
queues the dramatic music
 
5:36 AM
Hmmm... sounds like a really long and boring project.
 
it is
 
Except at the end when you can truly say "I did it!"
...and really mean it!
 
thats the rewrite ;) that will be when i say "ahhhh"
we have about six sites in queue for deploy and I want to build a new framework that will automate a ton of the grunt work for that. hense the shift to MVC
and once thats out of the way, I think i'll work on an auto-deploy hook for github/beanstalk/whatever-they-decide-i'm-using
 
Is GitHub any good?
 
i use it for my own personal projects, and i love it, but a ton of people that i know are huge fans of Bazaar and Mercurial. I'm more of the lone-wolf on git adoption other than marco and james
but i personally like github and its integration into redmine, and the general layout of the site. it really is a social repository system.
If you have git installed, you should fork/swipe a copy of my dotfiles repository and mess around with it
 
5:53 AM
I see.
 
6:05 AM
Good morning all
 
Change owner of internal hard drive partition from root to user http://bit.ly/lSKB3d #partitioning
 
 
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7:40 AM
WTH is ubunut.com ?
 
Night all.
 
it looks real !
 
@Alaukik A common mistyping of 'Ubuntu'.
@Alaukik It's probably a redirect.
 
@GeorgeEdison i was talking about the site .
@GeorgeEdison it is not
it shows 11.04 beta for download
 
@Alaukik Never mind then :)
 
7:51 AM
@Alaukik imo this page is evil. Owned by markmonitor, a company that trades with brand protection services. Look with whois to see who they pretend to be :D
Hello btw
 
8:05 AM
morning
 
morning @OctavianDamiean
what is this fuzz about the data leak in android?
 
@Takkat woot?
which one?
 
they said sth on the radio
 
oh
didn't know about it yet
 
ppl's private data could be read from unprotected wireless
 
8:08 AM
fixed in android 2.3.4
 
@trampster awesome then I'm safe :D
 
but they say many mobiles cannot be upgraded :/
 
@Octavian do you have a nexus s?
 
@trampster HTC Desire
 
so you install a custom rom?
 
8:11 AM
@trampster yup GingerVillain
lol today I'm so full of fail ...
 
8:26 AM
morning guys.
 
Hi @KaustubhP
 
@KaustubhP morning!
 
@Takkat I read about it too. But its fixed in 2.3.4. Apparently, the security token that ANdroid uses to communicate with websites can be "stolen" aka hijacked.
@OctavianDamiean correct me if I am wrong. You are the android guy here ;)
 
@KaustubhP the authentication token that certain applications use yes
 
Fixed security issues are best issues :) I hoped they'd fixed it before publishing this in general media
 
8:32 AM
Yeah, but I wonder why they dont give froyo and eclair the same love..
Keeping it a case of have-and-have-nots.
 
@KaustubhP it is not really a matter of fixing if on older version, the problem is that in Android you don't have an over the air update service which is controlled by Google but by your provider
your provider has to check that version (whatever that means) only then you get a new version or an update
 
Hmm. Then shouldnt Google be able to override it, for a major security fix? What do you think?
 
@KaustubhP no provider on earth would want that, it would give Google way to much control
 
hmm. so then users ar at the mercy of the provider, or the rom maker.
Dont mind me asking so many Android questions. I am just looking to catch up :p Might need it for interviews and such.
 
@KaustubhP yea pretty much
people that use custom system images (often called ROMs) generally have the bleeding edge stuff and they can update quite frequently (depending on the creator/maintainer of that image)
however flashing your device with a custom system image makes you lose any warranty
 
8:43 AM
@OctavianDamiean True that!
 
@OctavianDamiean so woudn't that be an argument for using a proprietary OS like bada?
 
@Takkat haven't ever heard about bada to be honest
but apparently it is a Samsung thing so I don't like it
 
@OctavianDamiean just asking as mobile replacement is due here in the next months
 
@Takkat MeeGo looked quite promising but now it was dumped :(
at least from Nokia
 
sry (boss-absorber popped in). Most manufacturers dump their solution in the meanwhile - too bad
 
9:09 AM
@Takkat atm Android is the best.
 
:)
 
@Takkat Bada doesnt have a great ecosystem, IMO.
Bada smartphones arent that huge a market, hence limited apps.
 
how to list packages from a ppa/source in command line http://bit.ly/ksiXi1 #commandline
 
@KaustubhP that's true. Me personally wouldn't want to buy any apps anyway ;)
It's rather the thought of having an OS I could play with on my mobile that attracts me to Android
 
I own a Samsung Galaxy S, my friend has a Nexus S, the hardware on the phones are almost identical. But my Galaxy S is way, way slower. The difference is that the Nexus S has stock android and the Galaxy S has android which has been modified by Samsung. Samsung fail at software.
 
9:25 AM
@trampster not only at Software :)
 
The Nexus S is samsung hardware and it rocks.
 
@trampster I'm believe that it works, the quality just isn't good
 
Most android phones have Samsung screens and most of the IPhone 4 hardware is produced by samsung.
 
@trampster oh they are great at producing screens, be it phone or TV but they fail on the rest, especially on the case
 
Oli
The Galaxy S2 is great though. A clear mile better than the Galaxy S
 
9:31 AM
Did they drop the laggy file system with S2 and go back to the default one?
 
+1 for the Nexus S :)
 
can't comment on the S2, never touched one :)
 
My brother's Nexus S has a green tint though :/
But other than that, its a great piece of phone!
 
Oli
@trampster Just had to check. Yes, EXT4
 
@Oli thats great news
 
Oli
9:35 AM
The worst thing about owning a Samsung branded phone (vs a Google branded Samsung) is getting big OS updates to it. You have to use their POS KIES application which is, of course, Windows-only and full of bloat and doesn't work through VirtualBox.
 
@Oli oh that is a drawback :(
 
but other vendors aren't that better when it comes to OS speed due to custom UI'n stuff, HTC does the same thing with their Sense UI
however the hardware they produce is rock solid
 
Oli
All depends how much you really need the next version. For the Galaxy S, an upgrade from the default 2.1 is pretty important because 2.2+ are a lot faster at a lot of things...
 
Oli
@OctavianDamiean I've had my S2 for too long - I saw the side-on picture and thought it looked chunky (the HTC is 2.81mm thicker)
 
9:45 AM
@Oli uhm, are you serious about that being an argument? :D
 
Oli
@OctavianDamiean A little bit, yeah. Sounds small when I put it like that but when you say "the HTC is 33% thicker than the Samsung" (which, unless I've just had some epic mathfail, is true) it sounds a little more understandable
Either way, I'm amazed at what they can fit into that space. I wish they'd turn their efforts to making a small laptop with as much oommph. Making a 10-inch screen with the same DPI/brightness/contrast as the SAMOLED+ screen on the S2, four of the dual-core processors sitting next to each other that powered down when not in use, a nice thin physical keyboard and a battery that was the largest component on the whole thing, giving several weeks of power.
They can clearly make a great screen just a couple of mm wide... I just don't understand why they don't.
 
10:15 AM
@Oli it would make us happy
 
I'd save all my money for it :P
(even stopped eating chocolate for a while)
 
A german stopped eating chocolate ia that even possible?
That's like an american stopped esting burgers! :P
 
whut? Never heard of that saying
 
loves Swiss chocolate
 
10:40 AM
hello @all
 
Hey any chance ubuntu software center will accept bitcoin in the future?
 
@alvar: swiss = cheese and chocolate, german = beer and bratwurst
 
Hello @htorque :)
 
@htorque heya
 
:-)
 
10:45 AM
did you guys see this an x86 emulator in JavaScript bellard.org/jslinux
 
@Achu saw it. Nice - but I wondered what we could use this for...
 
@Takkat but it is amazing! how cool is that... it just javaScript only
 
yeah - cool it is :)
 
JavaScript is really powerfull
 
im so bored :(
have read my reader, tweeted, FBed, xkcd'd.
still bored to death :(
 
10:54 AM
@KaustubhP: answer questions here?
couldn't answer any since ages :'(
 
@Takkat i answer what I can. latest questions are way outta my league.. can only vote and favourite :p
 
Now they are about to install these dreadful absorbers again!
is getting so absorbed by work to not even be able to vote
@KaustubhP ask a uniqe question like "How can I upgrade from 11.10 (oneiric) to 12.04 (prickly)" and count the time until it's closed :P
 
haha! Thats so American. Creating trouble for somebody because I am bored, and then cheer up upon seeing the chaos :p
 
@KaustubhP some questions look exactly as if that was the posters only intention - sad
 
like... "what happens without bashrc?"
:D
 
11:03 AM
lol
 
@KaustubhP just kidding ;)
what would the chat do, if there were "Kaustubh P" and "KaustubhP" registered (and both in the chat)?
 
@htorque implode
 
@Takkat umm, whats wrong with that? that is expected right?
 
"ambiguity detected, initiating self-destruction."
 
@htorque forgot to upvote - done. I always need reminders...
 
11:05 AM
@htorque lol, i know, have fun, i dont mind :D
@Takkat ahh, got it.. sorry, i am a lil bit too bored to figure out things :p
 
has 2 absorbers installed now :'(
 
I was merely asking what would happen. Not like I messed up the headmaster's (Stefano's) PC, and laughing..
What absorbers @Takkat ?
 
Takkat-absorbers they install here at work. With 3 installed I can't chat anymore
 
one htorque-absorber is enough to absorb one htorque - i'm outta here! ;)
 
11:14 AM
Another Prickly Porcupine
 
11:44 AM
uhm, can't people edit their own questions without approval?
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Q: Why won't my setup see the partitions on my hard drive?

Cass I currently have a dual boot system with 6 partitions on my 180GB hard disk (4 NTFS, 1 for swap and the other one ext4). Ive got WIndows 7 and Ubuntu 11.04 (upgraded from 10.10) installed. The 11.04 installation is messed up right now: missing dependencies/ 2 fglrx installs/ i have to manually ...

 
@htorque thats two different users
from the system point of view
 
aaaaaaaaa
 
I think this is the best looking question I've ever posted! :D
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Q: How to stream music over the network to multiple computers?

AlvarResults The result that I want from this is When I'm in a big room or walking between rooms I want to hear the same music at the same time, like if I were listening to the radio in all rooms. I want that effect but I want to listen to my own music, can this be done? Materials Ubuntu laptop. M...

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@Takkat :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D­:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:­D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D­:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
How to start different Desktop Environments? http://bit.ly/lcIAka #desktopenvironments
 
@AskUbuntuTwitter LOL? login window?!
@Takkat What do you do for a living? :O
saving kittens from high trees?!
:O
 
@Alvar no kitten! Prickly Porcupine...
 
12:31 PM
score!
A local business is looking to use Ubuntu for a kiosk.
 
@JamesGifford get there and help them!
:D
 
@JamesGifford I think that is a brilliant idea - having you as admin?
 
Not as admin.
I'm setting it up and walking away.
 
admin == regular basis!
set it up to ask for you regularly
 
so.. . . time to start hackin' on login scripts and chrome lockdowns. :D
@Takkat hehehehehe.. . . don't give me ideas. ;D
 
12:37 PM
@JamesGifford not my idea. The whole world is as evil as that :P
oh forgot: you can't do that if you are an Ubuntero!
 
Oh course I can't if I'm a True Ubuntero!
mkay. time to download 10.04.2 while I screw around with my chrome install. :P
 
you signed, didn't you?
 
Yes, yes I have.
Probably should re-sign/re-read - it's been awhile. :P
 
you signed for lifetime - no option to opt out :P
 
True. . . . does having a different PGP key count as a "OK" reason to resign? >_>
 
12:46 PM
is getting absorbed by 3rd absorber now
 
1:23 PM
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Q: What if I accidently run command chmod

fl00rI accidently run sudo chmod 755 -R / istead of sudochmod 755 -R ./ I stopped it after few seconds, but now there is some problems such as sudo: must be setuid root How can revert all back? :D

ouch
 
cringes
 
Cas
Coming soon: minimize windows from launcher!!
 
That's pretty cool.
 
1:48 PM
Hi folks.
I'm trying to get "open in remote terminal" to work in Nautilus.
But for some reason, after I type in password, it simply fails - termial window dissappears.
"open in terminal" works ok, but "open in remote terminal don't
Any idea?
 
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A: What if I accidently run command chmod

Marco CeppiIn long: you can. You'll need to mount the the file system from the a Live CD and begin reverting the permissions in the appropriate places. At a minimum to get sudo back you'll want to run sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo while in the LiveCD session - that will fix the must be setuid root. However,...

 
man
even if it was the correct command
I can't think of a use case of where the correct command would be useful
other than I bet he's new
and is trying to own /var/www or something crazy
 
Cas
@MarcoCeppi when you do think the official ubuntu apt url will see the changes you have on your site?
 
@Cas I'm less and less hopeful each day that it'll happen
 
Cas
oh
can we petition for it :P
 
2:02 PM
I have no idea how that would even work
They removed the user-agent restriction about a week ago - so now Chrome users can use it. Which was the biggest issue apt.ubuntu.com had (except for the fact that it's ugly)
 
Cas
yer was going to ask about that
 
@MarcoCeppi wait, it works?
thank the maker!
 
Yeah, it changed about a week ago
 
Cas
i dont use chrome so didnt notice that
well not by default
 
ok maybe now we can get a button for AU?
:)
 
oneiric: 'right-click on desktop > change background' opens the control center - hope that's going to change back to gnome-appearance-properties. i think else we'd have to fix some answers :D
 
Cas
@htorque lol
 
@JorgeCastro Maybe
 
@Cas "You can't do this, we'd have to edit answers on AU!"
 
Cas
2:12 PM
@htorque :D
@htorque i always thought that option was pointless other than it lead to theme customising
just thinking that changing to Desktop Appearance would make more sense
 
2:40 PM
This question was closed as a dup and I disagree. Should I add a comment explaining why to the question, or is there somewhere else better to discuss it? askubuntu.com/questions/43593/symbolic-links-vs-hard-links
 
add a comment I think
and vote to reopen?
 
did the vote... I guess I was a little surprised that the vote process didn't ask for a reason
 
2 more to reopen ;)
 
I kinda didn't want to clutter up the question with moderation comments
 
Oli
@psusi We can (and do) remove them once the issue is resolved ;)
 
2:44 PM
ahh
 
hm, why again did i vote to close it?
 
it seems like there should be a dup somewhere.. should be a rather common question
but that linked question is both much more narrow and unclear
 
i remember such a question, guess that's why i didn't take a closer look at the linked question
 
@psusi I go back and delete comments all the time
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and sometimes I got and flag a bunch on popular questions to keep em clean
 
Any one has original source file for ubuntu 10.10 ?
 
2:50 PM
ubuntu 10.10 has a couple of source files ;-)
 
couple of source files ?
I need sources.list
 
@Cas i have already talked to @MarcoCeppi about when this will replace the official apt-url redirector and he has told that sadly there is the connect between him and mpt has been lost
and it is not that the marcoceppi site has any malwares or something of that sort
so there is not much difference in official and non-official
 
hello
is back
 

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