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user4704
6:03 PM
There we go. Under 1400 zero-answers and under 1800 "unanswered" total. Moving right along :D
 
Jon
6:20 PM
anyone want to submit some 15x15 or 10x10 pixel art, feel free
requirements are that you need whitespace, and max 4 colours
3 for 10x10
 
royalty incentives? :P
 
Jon
the gratification of knowing people will be seeing your design
is all I can offer, lol
i'm not even promising I will use them :P
 
@Jon I can't even read those numbers without squinting ;( so low contrast
 
user4704
@Jon ATTP = 10 minutes.
 
somebody know which texture format I should use for memory savings on droid / unity?
PVRTC is the one for iOS
 
Jon
6:24 PM
@AttackingHobo looks better on phone
ATTP?
 
user4704
@Jon Average Time To Penis.
 
user4704
An important metric for consideration of any user-driven content.
 
it's not user driven here
 
user4704
Same thing.
 
Jon
yah, i custom draw all this shit
 
user4704
6:25 PM
Give me ten minutes. :P
 
user4704
Unrelated:
 
@Jon it's even worse on the phone if I am in a bright environement
 
user4704
Of particular note: Of these five forms of incentives, only individual incentives showed statistical significance. Game projects offering individually-tailored compensation (64 out of the 273 responses) had an average score of 63.2 (standard deviation 18.6), while those that did not offer individual compensation had a mean game outcome score of 56.5 (standard deviation 17.7). A Wilcoxon rank-sum test for individual incentives gave a p-value of 0.017 for this comparison.
 
Jon
@AttackingHobo I'll work on it
 
Joe
6:40 PM
@Jon build a web tool with a gui for creating these... and have it save to a database
then all you need is to spam the link and i guarentee people will make troll face pictures on it all day
 
@Jon My GF has made tons of those. :P Although always based on other characters.
Like Mario or something :P
 
Joe
fix rotation!
and you should be good
but i still think that looks awesome
 
@Joe lol
 
Jon
lol
 
6:51 PM
I have them turning into physics objects after the game is over now.
 
Joe
reminds me of that show on discovery "after were gone" - or whatever its called
with the crumbling buildings
 
hehehe
 
Jon
reminds me of a nightmare i used to have as a kid
In other news, we’re collaborating with Telltale Games to create Minecraft: Story Mode!
 
7:16 PM
@Joe i read the book that was based on
quite interesting
though there were some unsubstantiated claims in it
 
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someone recommended Duff's device.
 
user4704
lawl
 
:D
 
Joe
7:48 PM
@AttackingHobo last night you said my game was too easy... how many waves did you get through?
 
@Joe oooh game for playing?
 
Jon
3
 
Enough that the game started lagging horribly with the amount of enemies and bullets spawned @Joe
Got bored and quit with most of my hp left
 
Joe
Nov 28 at 6:53, by Joe
http://retiredpirate.com/SonOfABit/
 
linky?
 
Joe
7:50 PM
@AttackingHobo what browser were you on?
 
chrome.
@Joe you were just spawning too many things at once I think
 
Joe
also sorry i bored you lol - im wondering if its cacheing weird because i was able to get alot of the lag resolved on my end
 
I got to at least wave 30 something
 
do you have ad block hobo?
 
tuning difficulty for a broad audience is hard
 
7:51 PM
Of course
 
I managed it for Crystal Shuffle
 
@AttackingHobo its a mega resource hog
 
Joe
@AttackingHobo did you pick "rockets"?
 
@Almo joe has a wave defense game
@joe no
 
took several hours of experimentation on various player types and recording perfomance and analysis in spreadsheets.
 
With wave defense just make it harder and harder with no limit
that solves itself
 
Joe
hmmm i will dig into performance because i really want ultimately ALOT of stuff on the screen
i suspect its the physics
because the pooling has already given me a huge improvement
 
@RhysW not really. Maybe on load. But not for a loaded game running in unity
@Joe no. cause it calms itself down
Right when they spawn in it lags
 
Joe
i pooled the enemy objects as well... i might be spawning them on top of each other...
that would cause some insane phsyics lag? maybe
 
Jon
the base dissapeared and i'm still alive
 
7:53 PM
@Joe I did find if you have a tons of physics on top of eachother it was a problem as it tried to figure out what to do with it. In the sound wave / circle of spheres thing where I did the object pooling I disabled the colliders for the first half a second they were alive since they all spawned on top of each other
 
@SpartanDonut ooooh good idea!
 
Jon
I proclaim it to be the idea of the day
 
@joe make sure bullets can't collide with bullets
 
Joe
yea i like the sound of this
 
@AttackingHobo unfortunately this alone didn't matter much
 
7:54 PM
use the physics collision matrix
@SpartanDonut really?
 
I'm fairly certain I tried that anyway...
Now I'm second guessing myself...
 
It definitely helps in my tests
 
Joe
@AttackingHobo i thought I was...
 
I said make sure. Didn't know if you were or not
 
Joe
ooo ten four
 
7:55 PM
I'll presume you're correct then in this case
 
@Joe does your object pool copy stuff from lists?
 
Joe
i am using lists
 
Jon
hahahahah
that ain't no pool
 
Joe
spartan told me to use a stack - sounded fine
 
Try to pool objects without copying or any kind of allocating.
 
7:57 PM
... just roll with it. :P
 
Joe
@AttackingHobo how u do dis? - wait let me google stuff
 
@William'MindWorX'Mariager i didnt have you pegged as a modded minecraft player will!
 
Bill does all the things
 
7:58 PM
@Joe Secret sauce
 
It's practically the only game I've actually invested any serious time in the last several years. :P
 
me too
i dread to think how many hours
im glad its not tracked like steam does
 
Yeah, glad it doesn't keep any official track of it :P
 
on Feed the beast packs atm
 
7:59 PM
@Joe buy me a beer :)
 
Mostly just playing my own pack with friends/family.
 
yourself?
yeah we customised the monster pack, and me and a coworker play that
 
Joe
@AttackingHobo release your game and ill buy it but im going to give you 1 star until you implement god zilla toy knocking over those blocks
 
Heh
I was a bit impatient with the FtB people, so I just started putting together my 1.7.10 pack long before 1.7.10 even registered on their radar. :P
 
@joe Make a single list for each item type and prepopulate all the items into it. Keep track of Dead items. Loop through list. if you hit dead item. continue; if you hit the last item in list, break
 
8:01 PM
not a fan of 1.7.10, they made a change to chunk generation and spawning, and on certain hardware its basically unplayable
 
so i have to stick to 1.6.4
 
Haven't noticed.
 
not your hardware then ;)
 
I just reap the benefits of improved netcode and not having to muck around with id's for my configs anymore. :P
 
8:01 PM
i drop from 60 to less than 2 sometimes on 1.7.10
fps
 
@RhysW you use optifine?
 
Joe
@AttackingHobo interesting
 
@Joe If you do it right, its extremely efficient.
NO copying data structures and objects around
 
Joe
so my structure is identical to what youve described but im using them wrong
 
My bad :P
Worked for my needs at the time
 
8:04 PM
@AttackingHobo tried that, no additional benefit, my hardware is by no means outdated, its still pretty decent stuff, plays everything else on ultra settings, but minecraft apparently manages to screw it, hard
 
Joe
^ it worked for me for the first 1000 objects on screen too its all good
was a huge improvement from what i was doing before
@AttackingHobo can I mail the beer usps?
 
My favorite part was how intuitive a stack was for this
I would probably write a pool class that interfaced like a stack but left out the copying of stuff behind the scenes
 
Joe
soo if i pool N items... I should keep a boolean to track whats "currently in use" along with each
 
Pip
eyo
 
Joe
8:10 PM
rather than actually passing the thing out of the stack and then back in
just toggle true false
 
That's what I gathered from his explanation
which makes sense
 
Joe
i agree
 
I wonder if there comes a point where copying is more efficient than looping through such a large dataset
probably not for some time
 
Joe
with this method i should easily be able to get 10 million projectiles on screen
 
Additionally you can just use linq queries to get available items
 
Joe
8:11 PM
googles linq queries
 
linq is good, i love linq
 
Pip
<3
 
Joe
NOO WAY
thats sick
 
Pip
this track tho man:
spotify:track:1ZxmS2yQMhyghUE6HInpEk
been listening to it a lot this week
 
I personally believe you should stop linking those
 
Pip
8:12 PM
@Joe LINQ FTW!
 
@Joe Linq isn't efficient
 
because I can't click them
 
Joe
@Pip sup PIP
 
and yes keep a bool
 
Joe
but its cool
 
Pip
8:13 PM
not too much, haven't picked what to do today yet
 
@AttackingHobo i was under the opposite impression, how come?
 
I'm pretty sure it does alocations and other things.
 
Pip
just got home from school half an hour ago, been lazing around the house spending time with my dogs
 
@SpartanDonut yeah
 
Pip
@SpartanDonut I can stop if you want me to,
 
8:13 PM
we miss you in LoL
 
Pip
lol
 
but I'm goin on vacation monday, so I won't bug you about it til January :)
 
Pip
I can give https
:D
@Almo same, can't wait to see some friends who I haven't seen face-to-face for almost a year
 
i havent seen some of mine for 3 or 4 :( uni sucks
 
@Pip the link by itself does many of us no good because we can't click it. Artist name and track name would be a huge step up
Or you know... do what everyone does and find / link the track to youtube
My two cents anyway
 
Pip
8:16 PM
fair enough
 
Do as you please
I just want to enjoy your music but I can't D:
 
yeah, do what you want. it's not like the spotifiy links are annoying. But if you want us to listen, make it more convenient. :)
 
also, ive arbitrarily decided you can no longer use the letter g
have fun
 
well I didn't completely tell the truth
I will still rage every time you complain something took 5 minutes to download or install
So do what you want except that
 
8:18 PM
you fucking crazy Rhys. We need those letters for all sorts of words. No reason for you to give PiP greif like that!
 
Pip
 
@Almo you can, only pip isnt allowed to use the letter g :P
 
Pip
@SpartanDonut :D
gg
 
oh hey. I could click that! ;)
 
thanks
fixed
 
Pip
8:19 PM
same song!
 
@Pip I don't believe you and you have no proof
 
hmm, how tempted am i to edit out every g pip ever types
 
Pip
lol
 
@RhysW I will give you a penny for every g you remove
 
Pip
That would require aggregating all of the posts I have ever made. gg no re
 
8:21 PM
nah just from now on,
 
Pip
aggregating is the word with the most gs in it that I can think of off the top of my head :P
 
Pip
wow... actually not a lot
that's STARTING with g tho
 
i picked a good letter
 
I don't think it's starting with either
 
Pip
8:23 PM
hm, idk then
 
@SpartanDonut the word, not the sentence
 
Pip
mhm
 
Jon
ain't nobody got time for that
 
Aug 26 at 18:37, by Pip
\g`aB+
 
Pip
huh, idk then
 
8:24 PM
well that was weird
the quote box adds a space and capitalizes it lol
 
Jon
aug 26th? lol
 
Pip
lol
I remember that :P
 
Jun 30 '13 at 22:22, by TheProgramm3r
who Wα∩┬$ tº Dδ $φme┼Hïñg Wëí┌déΓ?
 
Pip
what the fuck
 
so basically
 
8:25 PM
said by the programmer
 
no clue how search works
 
@RhysW same guy
 
Pip
oh yeah, I remember that
 
silly renamings
 
Pip
8:25 PM
@Jon :D
 
Pip
@SpartanDonut Ey, that one shows all three of my names
@Jon :D
 
Jon
hehehe
 
Pip
much Monogame stuff
 
Pip
speaking of, I got it to work fine on Windows, so I'm working on stuff
 
thats more than he ever used the letter g
 
Pip
LOL
wow
 
No
You were bad
But don't compare yourself to him
 
hahah
14 pages of "cool"
@Pip no you weren't like psychO
maybe a little, but not enough to warrant the comparison
 
8:30 PM
who the potato is psycho
not the one who asked so many questions he got his own room for it was he?
 
Let's not talk about it. This is a happy place.
 
Pip
probably a good idea
 
@RhysW He goes by the name "7_BlueBeast_Something" now.
 
user4704
@RhysW Yes, that guy.
 
Jon
is he perma banned?
 
user4704
8:30 PM
No.
 
Pip
on that note, I'm going to play a match of Dota
 
ahhh, donuts fav person
 
some guy who was the worst ever about "I want to do this" "do it like that" "No I want to do it like this" "But you should do it like this" "I don't want to do it like that. Help me."
 
Pip
bbiab
 
i remember now
totally wasnt the reason i took my last hiatus
 
8:31 PM
I'm sure
:)
 
Jon
I want help, but I don't want to listen.
You guys are so ignorant, I said i want help
 
@Almo I'm pretty sure androidmaster was that guy. Psycho kinda wanted to do what we said but just had no idea how to do anything.
 
Androidmaster was also that guy
But psycho didn't do what we said
he wanted to make something, had no clue, so we gave him baby steps to take to get there, and he wouldn't do it.
 
sounds like lots of people end up here wanting you to do it for them
 
@Almo He never said he didn't want to do it. Androidmaster just outright refused it.
He didn't want to use any libraries.
 
8:33 PM
We suggested Psycho write Pong as a first game so he could learn some stuff
he refused
 
Ooh right
 
we said if he couldn't write Pong, which shouldn't take long, he had no business trying to do the thing he really wanted to do
 
Yeah that's true
He wanted to get to the "secret advanced gamedev techniques" immediately.
 
I kind of have a memory like a steel trap
;)
 
i hadnt noticed
 
Pip
8:35 PM
holy crap Steam has a browser
 
:P
 
I remember silly unimportant things
Not exactly a useful skill
 
Pip
waiting for the game to load, and I found this
 
you and me both spartan, i remember most dreams i have, never useful to me, ever
 
I've recently started having dreams that wake me up with a loud crash
The most recent one I don't remember anything that happened except the loud crash
 
8:36 PM
are you kicking things off the unit next to you? :L
 
lol nah
we're talking really close thunder levels of volume
 
do you own a cat?
 
3 cats
 
do you live near a rocket testing facility?
 
that must be it
 
8:39 PM
knew we'd get there in the end
 
Anyone get me something awesome for Christmas? (or my birthday tomorrow?) :D
 
some earplugs
 
I don't know if earplugs will help noises that are generated in my brain
 
some...brain plugs
 
Pip
Nooooooo
my favorite hero got debuffed
Fireblast damage reduced from 60/120/180/240 to 55/110/165/220
Fireblast cast range reduced from 600 to 475
dang
 
8:43 PM
which one?
 
Pip
Dota, Ogre Magi
 
oh right, ive played dota 2 once, and it was against that character!
 
Pip
and they buffed one of the worst carries to play against
 
Me. They buffed me.
 
Pip
lol.... they buffed Pudge
the meat hook guy
 
8:46 PM
thats what spartan just said
 
hahahahahaha
 
Jon
:D
 
WHAT JUST HAPPENED
RHYS
 
:D
 
I thought I was going crazy but I pressed up and saw the appropriate number of has
 
8:47 PM
are you losing it?
 
nope
someone is secretly editing messages
 
are you sure?
 
o positive
 
but there is no pencil!
when i edit there is still a pencil
 
Nope
I know your secrets
 
8:48 PM
see!
 
Nope
You are a dirty cheater
 
i changed it to 0 positive!
 
GET IN YOUR CORNER
 
i surrender
/me sits in corner
 
Room owner > mod obviously
 
8:49 PM
@Pip Its had one for years!!!!
 
im not mod of this site :P
 
Pip
@AttackingHobo I didn't know :D
 
@RhysW that makes you especially weak in this room
 
we don't all get buffed like you, meat hook guy
 
@Pip Got your stuff working in Windows?
 
Pip
8:50 PM
@SpartanDonut holy crap the nostolgia.... thanks for the link
yep
alright, game starting
 
Pip
cya
 
But Linux is so much better than Windows :P
 
It proves itself
 
HEhehehehhehe
M$ Windows is bad, but Linux, it proves it self.
 
8:52 PM
Anyone who uses M$ loses respect in my book
4
and I mean that spelling... not Microsoft products
I realize you're joking... people who seriously use it
 
Jon
YEAH |\/|$ is garbage!!
 
@SpartanDonut Exactly. It hurt me to type that even sarcastically
Star that out of context people
6
 
Jon
hold on i'm busy
hold....
 
yeah, I knew it
I sensed a disturbance in the linux-force
3
 

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