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2:49 AM
@AliceD hi! Long time no speak! :) question: so I saw this article on pigeons detecting breast cancer bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34878151 and I am a little confused now what level of intelligence to classify this as.
@AliceD What I mean is that, this is obviously an exceptional demonstration of how adept animals can be at extracting information from their environments. But is this really intelligent behavior? The pigeons presumably don't know what they are looking at. Idk. I thought it was interesting and curious what u thought
 
 
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7:35 AM
Hi
 
 
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2:47 PM
@fileunderwater What the what. What a weird study. What a weird diagram.
 
3:15 PM
@Resonating Clearly an important topic.
A gem from the methods section: "The underpants were fashioned to cover the distal one third of the rat's back as well as the scrotal and penile areas, perineum and the upper parts of the hind limbs (fig. 1). Openings were made for the anal orifice, penis and tail. The rats wore the pants day and night for 12 months; the garments were changed by fresh ones whenever soiled."
 
@fileunderwater Oh there's some poor undergrad who changed rat panties for a year
 
Yeah - "You go change all the soiled rat panties!"
 
I wonder if they washed them or if they just made 200 underpants per rat
 
@Resonating You can vividly picture the day-to-day research going by reading this methods section
yeah, sort of fabric diapers vs single-use ones.
 
@fileunderwater They still must have had dozens. I wonder how they made all the underpants in exactly the same size? also are they still underpants if they're not under anything? Maybe they paid a doll tailor.
 
4:04 PM
More on great figures in biology:
Meyer-Rochow & Gal. 2003. Pressures produced when penguins pooh - calculations on avian defecation. Polar Biology 27.
 
I like how they represented a pile of pebbles by taking a picture of pebbles and cropping it to a pile shape
 
This paper actually won the 2005 IGNobel price for fluid dynamics.
@Resonating And that the pebbles (arguably a side issue) are represented by an actual picture while the study organism looks like a windows paint drawing.
 
4:22 PM
@fileunderwater For consistency they should have taken a picture of thousands of penguins and just masked out a penguin shape
 
 
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11:19 PM
@StanShunpike Hi Tan, interesting stuff. However, the study was published into PlosONE and I would have to carefully look at the paper to verify if it's good stuff. No time for that now.
 
@AliceD hello!
 
@StanShunpike Hi! It is an example of pattern recognition, not intelligence
Interesting, but not shocking
And its credibility in a journal like Plos is questionable from my POV
Something like this should be meticulously peer-reviewed.
Have to run, thanks for sharing!
 
@AliceD bye!
 

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