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A: Avodah Zarah 2b - about gold and silver

ShokhetWithout looking at any commentaries on this passage, I'll just write my own interpretation, based only on text itself (and possibly accidentally integrating a number of lectures I've heard on it in the past). Let's break down the Gemara, bit by bit, and see if any of your questions remain: א...

 
You didn`t have to break the whole Gemara through, it was not necessary, I got it :). The point is everything belongs to God, so why to point out davka gold and silver?
 
I wasn't sure :) .....the point of gold and silver is because that's the wording of the cited verse (Chaggai 2:8).
 
Could we say, that if their intention in making bridges and marketplaces would be for us, than the money which they made could be consider as theirs, but since they didn't make it for us, then God is not gonna our toiling in Torah for gold and silver so to say? I understand, that's the wording of the verse, but I mean in general what does Gemara want to teach us by saying that Romans are braging about how much gold silver, diamonds, shares whatever they have?! Perhaps, that their achievements are materialistic and and not spiritual?
 
@havarka Tip for you: use the apostrophe ' (left of the enter key), instead of the tick mark ` (top left of keyboard) ....the Markdown that these sites use marks anything in between two tick marks as code, which is what's giving you that funny look.
 
Meaning if they did it for Jews, all those things so to say they could exchange it for gold and silver and could really belonged to them.
 
5:58 AM
@havarka I have to go now, just got called. I'll be back sometime later, hopefully.
@havarka I don't really understand what you're saying, particularly with the phrase "but since they didn't make it for us, then God is not gonna our toiling in Torah for gold and silver so to say?" .....then God is not gonna what?
 
Forget about it, its too early here, I don`t make any sense
 
 
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7:07 PM
@havarka Hi! Sorry about that, just got back to Mi Yodeya. .....what, specifically, is bothering you about this gemara?
 
 
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8:58 PM
np, just wanna understand what was the point of mentioning that they made a lot of money.
 

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