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10:16 AM

@MartinSleziak Instead of converting your "topology blogs" question to Community Wiki, why not start an answer on it to be expanded by the community, and make this Community Wiki (you should be able to do that yourself)? Indicate somewhere in the question that the Community Wiki answer will collect a list of these blogs, together with short descriptions of their content/scope. This might be a better use of CW in this case.

Thoughts?

Martin Sleziak

@ArthurFischer Well, I was just trying to follow the recommendation that the questions like this should be CW.

Since blog-recommendations are somewhat similar to book recommendations, I will ask to make this question CW based on the recommendation here. — Martin Sleziak 2 hours ago

There was also a discussion on meta whether all big-list questions should be CW: meta.math.stackexchange.com/questions/11359/…

But there does not seem to be a consensus that every big-list question should be CW.

(At least it would seem so based on the discussion I linked.)

@ArthurFischer If the questions remains non-CW, I have no problem with it.

I have no problem with CW answer making short summaries of other answers. (And it does not matter too much whether such answer should be posted by me or by somebody else.)

However, at the moment there is nothing to summarize.

Arthur Fischer

11:28 AM

@MartinSleziak I'm thinking more in terms of SE standards, as set out by the following blog post from about a year ago:

Blog - Stack Exchange: Putting the Community back in Wiki

Grace Note on April 22, 2014

Ever seen this diagram?

That’s the visual elevator pitch for Stack Exchange. We were the little dot in the middle, a potent mix of useful traits from other tools, a wiry mutt full of hybrid vigor. The purpose of this blend was to allow and encourage the construction of a library of solutions, by providing communities with the tools they needed to share their experiences and challenges with others who might struggle with the same issues.

The diagram illustrated where we stole drew inspiration for the design of those tools, and their influence occasionally shows up in the results. Sometimes, …

Here the following appropriate uses of CW are highlighted:

> * Compiling a canonical reference
> * Consolidating the knowledge of the community
> * Encouraging the ongoing, active maintenance of a changing answer

If we're just making a list of related blogs, then it almost seems that all three use cases fit. (Albeit the second not quite as strongly.)

I would have thought that you would have provided Dan Ma's Topology Blog as an example already. And your use could really help shape the answer.

I'm sort of thinking of using your question as an experiment of sorts. See how it actually works within the math.SE community.

Martin Sleziak

I was somehow hesitant to answer the question myself.

Of course, I know dantopology.wordpress.com That is in fact the only answer which I can provide from the top of my head.

But I thought that perhaps somebody is more familiar with it and can describe it better (and in more detail) than I did here.

Arthur Fischer

@MartinSleziak You could basically quote some portion of the about page:

> This blog is not intended as a research blog. The focus is usually on fairly basic topological notions – normal spaces, compact spaces, Lindelof property, metrizability, product spaces, and function spaces, just to name a few. I tend to write on topics or problems or examples that interest me. But there is a lot of contents in my blog that are geared toward readers taking courses in topology.

Martin Sleziak

ok, so I will remove the comment about CW from my question.

I can add answer about this particular blog.

Then I can add a new CW-answer for collecting other answer.

And I can add a comment linking to your message in chat, as an explanation.

Or, if you prefer, you can post those answers. (It was your suggestion and you also suggested characterization of Dan Ma's blog to post in the answer.)

Arthur Fischer

11:45 AM

@MartinSleziak I would recommend only posting a CW answer, and perhaps edit the question to say that users shouldn't add new answers, but instead make additions to the CW answer.

Martin Sleziak

@ArthurFischer Isn't the answer going to be too long in that case?

Although I know how many blogs are going to be posted in that answer.

Arthur Fischer

@MartinSleziak I don't think there are that many notable topology blogs. Between you and I we can name one. Answers can be about 30,000 characters long, IIRC.

Martin Sleziak

But if you imagine something similar for, say, question about second book in elementary set theory. (IIRC we have such question.) Then this format would not probably work.

It might be useful to have list of the books in one CW-post. But separate posts about those books would enable add more detailed description of the book and also users would have possibility to add comments about that particular book.

It is not important - but I had this question in mind: What is a good text in intermediate set theory?.

So it seems that I misunderstood your suggestion. Now I see that you meant to have there only one post.

Arthur Fischer

@MartinSleziak I don't think many descriptions really require more than 500 characters to give at least an idea of the contents. Even doubling this means that about 30 references can be given in an answer.

Martin Sleziak

The only possible objection I see is that if somebody wants to make a comment about some particular blog, they will post a comment on the post about collection of several blogs.

Arthur Fischer

11:52 AM

And many of our "resource recommendation" answers are of the form: [title] by [author]

Martin Sleziak

But that is not very strong objection.

However, I would prefer if you post the answer. For two reasons: 1) It was your idea. 2) It will be in the form which you intended.

Arthur Fischer

@MartinSleziak Sure, I'll go ahead.

Martin Sleziak

Thanks!

I have removed my comment about requesting CW.

As far as the flag is concerned, I will leave it to your judgement.

1 hour ago, by Martin Sleziak

I have no problem with CW answer making short summaries of other answers. (And it does not matter too much whether such answer should be posted by me or by somebody else.)

Although it might seem somewhat unfair that I will get reputation points for the question. But I use CW-posts as "credit waived much less than I did in the past.

Arthur Fischer

@MartinSleziak If you ask a reasonable question, you should receive reputation for it. CW shouldn't be used for reputation-denial (even self-reputation-denial).

Martin Sleziak

I basically agree with that. (As I said, I use CW for this purpose much less than before.)

But still there are occasions where I simply have to...

Thanks for all (handling the flag, suggestion about CW, posting the answer).

Now it only remains to wait whether somebody will add some interesting blogs to the list.

(Or I can try to find some...)

Arthur Fischer

12:09 PM

@MartinSleziak Yeah. I might spend some time looking, too.

@MartinSleziak No problem at all. I've been curious about doing something like this for a while, and when your flag showed up it seemed like a good time. As I said, it's kind of an experiment.

Martin Sleziak

Even if in this case nothing is added (or only a few other links), I suppose that there will be some similar posts, when you can try the same thing.

Martin Sleziak

2:51 PM

My experimentation is growing.... Totally forgot about this lock option, but I may not be happy with it. Could be removed shortly. — Arthur Fischer ♦ 7 mins ago

locked by Arthur Fischer♦ 13 mins ago

This question's answers are a collaborative effort: if you see something that can be improved, just edit the answer to improve it! No additional answers can be added here

I did not know about this possibility.

Arthur Fischer

3:13 PM

@MartinSleziak It's a real lock. I had forgotten about it, too. But it prevents votes/edits on the question. I've removed it since it's not appropriate right now. (If a lot of additional answers get posted, and someone (me?) inocorporates them into the CW answer, then that's an appropriate use of that lock reason. Otherwise, let things sit (or so Shog says).)

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