Game Development

I get the feeling I've angered @Almo.

Have I?

@Sie relax he hates everyone equally

So do your kids have any interest in game development? Unity would be a great start if they were.

Anyone knows of a Caesar/Caesar II style game? I think I need a fix :| (Steam/windows)

1:11 AM

Never heard of it. What's it like?

Okay, time to start doing the fun stuff:-)

I will now be internally jealous of you for that fact. Goes back to coding level manager.

@Sie Hmm, basically, a city builder taking place in Antique Rome!

@AlexandreVaillancourt Well there are no shortage of city builder games.

Stronghold maybe?

Stronghold is more like AoE, which I suppose is another one you could look at.

Caesar has a somewhat unique style. It's somewhat of a Sim City meets Age of Empires.

1:16 AM

Yeah

It's been a while since I've played them, but I liked them from what I recall.

aren't you like 8?

Me?

Me?

yeah

1:17 AM

yeah

you

him

she?

the ward?

wizard of ward

1:18 AM

I remember playing Caesar as a teenager, and it seemed like an old game then.

Any horror game fans in here? Not like FNAF garbage. Like Amnesia, Penumbra, and games like that.

I don't remember it as being an old game!

Earliest one that came out was in '92.

Caesar (video game)

Caesar is a city-building computer game where the player undertakes the role of a Roman governor, building ancient Roman cities. Released in 1992 on the Amiga, ported the next year to Atari ST, PC and Macintosh, the game was similar to SimCity. In addition to similar graphics and user interfaces, it also came with issues of micromanagement, including complicated city-planning requirements such as building the right number of schools, theaters, libraries, bathhouses, and other amenities, within suitable distances of residential areas. == Differences from SimCity == Notable differences of Caesar...

I would just get Caesar 3, amzn.to/1XXOJyQ

1:20 AM

@Almo that is in unity :)

Yeah, that fits my timeline. I remember playing it around 2000.

store.steampowered.com/app/327640

There is a remake of caesar III in the works there!

Yeah, that one.

Anyone know of a good clip on or stand up mic? I got one with my new headphones but it sucks.

What I'm doing now is working on my pricing model.

The initial pricing model will be fairly easy, updating it with time will take some careful thought...

1:24 AM

here is my mic stand :)

I know that is like your pride and joy.

yeah man, its amazing

it works so well I am set

thank you rock band

1:40 AM

@Sie haha no

@Jon copy of wizard of wor.

yeah lol

1:55 AM

cool @almo

Seriously though. Any mic recommendations?

I was gonna recommend this Logitech USB mic I use, works flawlessly + good sound
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Desktop-Microphone-Black-Silver/dp/B00009EHJV
but it looks like it's been discontinued

Err what? Logitech discontinuing products?

Just a guess
out of stock at newegg
jacked up price @ amazon

2:14 AM

doesn't look like a good mic either

a good mic has a larger receiving end

Yeesh. $150?

I was thinking around $80 max.

man this mouse is so good, I don't want to use shit mice anymore

O_O

@Sie tonor 35$

2:21 AM

amazon.com/Tonor-Condenser-Microphone-Broadcast-Instruments/dp/…

?

Whatever the case that one looks good.

looks can be deceiving

As do the reviews.

yeah

what are you gonna record?

My beautiful monotone voice of course :P.

I'm going to use it for in game chat and development logs mostly though.

yeah that logitech mic was $20 NZD a few years ago, good for the price
dunno wtf that $150 price tag is doing haha

2:28 AM

Usually Amazon undercuts most places online. I usually but from them for the sake of Prime though.

that's the one i have

what do you do with it?

voice chat mainly

with jay leno?

haha

2:37 AM

@Jon Bedroom producers be like...

@Sie pffff XDK All Day

MickLH

2:57 AM

Hey just wondering if anyone thought there's any algorithms I should write up implementation guides for, I don't know how much longer I'll be around and I'd like to contribute something.

@MickLH Why will you not be around?

ya whats the matter?

3:13 AM

@JoshPetrie @Byte56 I've removed most of the design tag from questions; there is only one left, and I can't edit it. If you guys feel that it should be cleaned and you can do it, go ahead :)

user4704

@AlexandreVaillancourt I retagged that last one with "multiplayer"

@JoshPetrie Thanks a lot!

@JoshPetrie For that tag, I simply deleted the tag for the on hold and the closed questions, and replaced the tag by something appropriate for those still opened, should I have replaced the tag correctly even on those closed and on hold?

user4704

When removing "bad" tags like that, I only replace it if its the only tag.

user4704

(because a question has to have at least one tag)

user4704

Otherwise I just remove it entirely.

3:19 AM

All right!

Q: Should we merge the 'code-structure' and 'code-design' tags into the 'architecture' tag?

4:16 AM

I'm really surprised Unity doesn't have a revert to prefab feature (like the editor does).

StackExchange

5:07 AM

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If we consider the description of architecture: How code is structured. [...] And the description of code-structure: Refers to ways of organizing code, so it can be easier to work with. And the description of code-design: (Yeah, there is none. And only 4 open questions.) Shou...

11:43 AM

Today my VPS host just broke my servers to where they need physical access to recover then gave me the most inept technical support I've ever experienced. I think I just lost a month's worth of work to a shitty server host.

11:59 AM

Hi

Hey, good morning

It's 9:30 pm heree..haha

Good morning to you too :-)

It's 0500 here, turning into a terrible workday even though it's a holiday weekend haha

haha, are most people here from the US?

Not at all, I'd say the minority of people here are US

Most are Canadian and Central European as far as I've seen

12:03 PM

I'd go for a plurality.

I'm sure there's more people from outside the US here, but I bet the US has the most of any country.

It also kinda depends on the time of day, I'm usually on when it's normal work hours for europeans.

I'm usually not awake when most americans are awake

This is true as well.

I doubt there were many people from the western hemisphere at all 6 hours ago here.

that is unfortunate Matt :(

@ChrisMcFarland The server thing?

Yeah :(

12:06 PM

Yeah mate, I'm mostly upset because it's not just my work, it's my work for a client and it's not my fault at all but I'm going to have to take a cut for it.

yikes.

It's just hard to find a good virtualized server provider that has fair pricing and good reliability

I'm here to meet people with the same interest as me and hopefully make some friends.

:D

Well Jeff, from what I've seen, this is an extremely welcoming chat for that

12:08 PM

I've been in this room for almost 2 years now

Really? cool!

How did you evolve to not sleep?

;)

cranked the monitor brightness to 200

That'll do it

Well you see, people these days never stop looking at their technology? ;)

My highest records is 3:00 am

12:11 PM

I hate server hosts, I've paid them a total of $140,000 this year and their support is still terrible

:| :(

Lots of bandwidth? or lots of servers?

At some point I'd love to just build servers and put them in a colocation

Lots of servers with lots of virtualized resources

Bandwidth isn't too expensive

fun

Bandwidth is only 15% of the costs

It's the 800 virtual CPUs that's the big expense

What is your job?

12:14 PM

Honestly, at this point, I've brought so many clients to their service I feel like I should get a cut of the revenue hahah

I dabble in systems programming, IT, security consulting, distributed services scaling, and such for making a living

Game development is my passion, but it doesn't pay the bills

I went to an Industry experience day once, and the guy told me he had been through 4 different companies and they all went bankrupt.

Game development*

I'm thinking of doing Computer Forensics but I dont think i can ding a job like that :(

Game Development is some of the most difficult industries to make any revenue at all, let alone profits

find*

yeah.

Computer forensics is quite fun

It's easier than you'd think

Really?. I dont mind sitting in front of a desktop and such for hours. I have a persistent personality..haha

Defcon 21 - Forensic Fails - Shift + Delete Won't Help You Here

12:20 PM

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Check out some defcon talks, they'll mention a lot of tools and practices of the trade of computer forensics

user92578

I'm watching a GDC talk about RL

I know all about computer forensics

oh really?

Not in a sarcastic way

Used to decommission fed hardware

had to ensure all data was purged... it was overkill

Was it hard?

12:24 PM

5 pass overwrite, took like 2 hours per drive

Then we shredded them

lol

I'm thinking of getting a computer science degree at Swinburne Uni

lol

it is a good field to go into

it should remain relevant for years

unlike some other fields

It should be mentioned that it's fucking fun and pays well and you can fuck around during the boring parts

I asked a police about Computer Forensics and all the cybersecurity jobs at a Career Expo, and she told me they got them sorted. So I was kinda dissapointed.

Oh, a job in forensics, good fucken luck with that

those are scarce

12:26 PM

haha

doesn't mean you can't do it -- you just need to stand out from the rest of the pack

i've already peaked, so i'm just waiting to die at this point

OH MY GOD. I JUST FIXED THE FUCKING SERVERS AND THEIR IT SUPPORT JUST WIPED ALL OF MY SERVERS KERNELS AND REPLACED THEM WITH A RECOVERY ISO TWO DAYS AFTER MY SUPPORT TICKET WAS REVOKED

:O

sounds like a case of the mondays

I...

It's 0500 on a Sunday and this is how they respond

12:29 PM

oh well, at least you know what is up

Looks like a need to find a new server provider

Any suggestions?

doom sountrack when viewed with spectrum analysis tool

Hail satan

12:33 PM

It's nice, my game is now slowly being controlled by a config file.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Hopefully by the end of today I'll have all of my "magic constants" removed and placed in an XML file.

It's a good thing, because I can set up my tutorial using a different file.

So I can use the tutorial mode without hacking a bunch of functions.

And it'll allow for easier debugging too, I could add a debug mode file that turns on buildings earlier than they would normally show up, for instance.

modding support too

just hack the config

Yep, that too.

To each its own

12:37 PM

Any ideas why I cant upload a picture onto here?

your points are too low

noob :P

user92578

@JeffTeoh Just post imgur links

StackExchange doesn't want spam accounts uploading russian porn

I just started using this website..ahah

aha, you admit you are a noob

12:38 PM

@Jon it's best to own it

:P

Technically I'm a noob

I've had this account for five years but have only really used it lately

Member for 7 years, 3 months

I AM YOUR ELDER

muahahahahaha

12:42 PM

I forget how long I've had an account here... Must be 6 or 7 years...

Member for 2 years, 10 months

5 years, 5 months.

Member for 5 years, 5 months

yeah i looked at your space profile

You beat me by two months

you are like on all SE sites.. do you do anything else with your spare time other than SE?

12:44 PM

Make games?

Honestly, there's only a few sites that I regularly check. I've been more active on others in the past.

@Jon aphex twin did one of these

cool

That thing is fucking terrifying

its a human face, how is it terrifying?

it's pretty ugly

12:48 PM

Uncanny valley

you're just desensitized by all that weird shit you're into

This is the third time today my server provider has forwarded me onto a different IT guy whose first action is to wipe my server's kernel and install a recovery image thus rolling back the last two hours of progress with the last IT guy

[Spectrogram] Aphex Twin / ΔMi−1 = −∂Σn=1NDi[n][Σj∈C{i}Fji[n − 1] + Fexti[[n−1]]

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that's what it sounds like, I think

@MattJensJensen is this with a web service provider?

@Jon I'll just say it, it's Digital Ocean.

12:50 PM

ah

I use AWS and Digital Ocean primarily.

They're both monsters

dreamhost here

At least AWS gave us $10,000 in credits once

??

you guys have how many servers?

Previously about 100 m4.4xlarge instances

12:53 PM

interesting. I used to maintain a 300 server farm

It's a stressful job man

yes it is.

When everything is going well, no one knows what you do, if something goes slightly wrong, people question the value of your job

Wish you all the best.

You too mate

It'd be cool if someone offered cheap (~$20) bare metal units

12:56 PM

stuff goes wrong all the time