Yeah. I don't have a Windows Phone binary just yet, but I think I can make one.

DON'T play the web version, it'll ruin you

@MickLH my next question is whether 'i' stays in scope after the for loop that way...or does your language work with scope the same way C-like languages do?

i stays in scope

scope handles mostly like javascript

except there's no var keyword

Have you considered: for(int i = 0 to 4)?

Or for(int i = 0 .. 4)

oh man I think that's the one

That's from haskell or something

would it be blasphemous to use a keyword "from" instead of "=" ?

hah, so true

lmao

I still can't convince myself to write anything in haskell

Isn't it VB or something that does for int i from 0 to 4 ?

I can play with it when I've got nothing to do, but as soon as I go to get something done I bust out the C++

@JohnMcDonald Shhhhhhhhhh..... shhhhhhh shhhhh.

err, I mean "C++"... yess

thanks, you were gonna accidentally uncover my dark secret that BASIC was my first language I ever made a game in on that track

I made my first game with qbasic

I swear it's OK, it was back in the ways when BASIC featured inline machine code (but not inline assembly) ((and only if you knew what bytes of RAM to overwrite to inject your machine code))

my first language was liberty basic, then some web stuff, then blitz basic, then I swore to never touch another basic language ever again

then I got into college and tutored people taking a VB.NET class

damn it all

iirc I didn't make my first in qbasic, but I modded Nibbles to be 4 players, and added an "infinite tail" feature

It was awesome

mine was text-based manager game

it drew a dog with boxes as splash screen

mine was like a minesweeper + snake mashup

you played as a pixel, and each entity had a pixel of artwork

and it had glitches, but the glitch made the game better because you could go into invisible mode where it was really easy to die, but you could skip over your own tail and the mines didn't blow up, then you were back to normal next time you hit a dot or a wall, and it actually made the game a lot more interesting

I didn't have the tape deck for my Atari though, so I only played a couple games of it, then lost the source code when the machine turned off

Damn

Other developers also figured out that Nibbles + many players + infinite tails was awesome, so I can go back and play it any time: armagetronad.org

Unity folks: andrewfray.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/…

btw, Armagetron makes for an amazing LAN experience

> Open the profiler and run the game, select the CPU profiler, and tap the GC Alloc column to sort by the worst offenders.

probably could just make that the blog post and leave it at that

the rest is valid though

you know, I've always wondered why setting the preset slider to its highest setting in most games doesn't actually give you the best graphics

like in LoL it doesn't enable anti-aliasing

Well, maybe the devs think that AA doesn't improve the graphics in LoL?

For lines, AA makes a huge difference, but for busy scenes? I donno, I'd have to compare

:( I guess I have to set my game as "Low Maturity" on Android's scale of "Everyone, Low, Med, High" because my app "include[s] mild cartoon or fictional violence"

LoL has a good number of lines, but that's not really the point

I can't remember the last game I played that I didn't have to make custom settings for just to get the actual max graphics

it's so widespread I'm sure there's a reason

I just can't imagine what that reason is

Well... my point was that turning on AA doesn't necessarily mean that you're getting better graphics. It just means your graphics card is working harder (kinda... depends really)

AA basically blurs the screen a bit. Some people see that as worse graphics

it's a whole lot more advanced than blurring the screen. at least a good AA algorithm is.

but other games have made me turn textures higher or turn the view distance up

mmo's routinely leave 5 or more settings below their actual max even on the highest preset

shrug

Which reminds me (ThanNNks), that I need a new graphics card

I'm not really ranting. it's easy enough to just change the settings myself, and I'm glad I can do that. it just strikes me as odd.

@Lasse I don't know, I guess I just thought that your average person wouldn't be as willing, but I guess that wouldn't apply to gamers. I suppose you're right. It just seems like games have gotten easier, and I was trying to come up with some explanation.

@AidanMueller they certainly have, but I heard an alternative explanation for that

games started on arcade machines, see. and those things weren't meant to ever be beaten.

then game creators just took forever to learn that playing games at home is totally different

@Joe Where are you kimmu-sawa?

Anyone here good with economics?

This is a game development chat room

:P

man, math is awesome until you put a dollar sign in front of it, and then it's the worst thing on the planet

so...no. not good with economics. XD

I know, but just trying my luck

I mean economics theories and stuff

@DemCodeLines Just say it anyways.

oh that's more psychology. not good at that either. XD

> If each person demands one movie a month when one movie ticket costs $6, two movies a month when each costs $4, and three when each costs $2, what will the total demand be for 100 people for each price?

That's math, not economics.

Is that a high school math problem?

Market demand is defined as "the sum of the individual's demand at each price"

And I don't understand that part.

For the $2 price, it would be 100 * 3. Simple.

The answer is the following: "at $6, 100 tickets will be sold. At $4, 200 tickets will be sold and at $2, 300 tickets will be sold."

yeah. 100, 200, and 300 is your demand.

What's the math behind the $6 ticket, for example?

How did they get just 100?

each person demands 1 ticket and there are 100 people

so...1*100

Because you multiply the amount of movies that they get at that price, times 100 people.

don't overthink it. it really is that simple. :P

D = M * 100

D = Demand

M = Movies per month.

100 = people

42 = answer to life, the universe, and everything, or something like that

> three when each costs $2

@IcyDefiance Don't abuse Mr. Equals.

Oh so, three x 100

M is really: Movies per month demanded at the set cost

Right.

Per person I might add.

yeah

thanks everyone. Looks like every time I come here, I get something good out of it ;)

I don't, I always end up getting procrastination.

@IcyDefiance 100 does not equal people, because that would mean that people and 100 are the same thing.

So do you guys talk about programming languages too for development (C++, Java, C# etc.) or just animation stuff and stories etc.?

yes, but I would have used P instead of 100, and said P = 100 people

@DemCodeLines C# master race. no arguments.

Hey I love C# too, so I am all for it :D

aww, I was hoping you would argue. it's more fun that way. :(

Well, Java is equally fun, in some cases.

@IcyDefiance One cannot appreciate C# unless they've read the source code in the original Klingon.

I used to really love C#, and still do mostly, but I've turned into a JavaScript junkie

Java is a subset of C#, except for its cross-platform compatibility. it's not a bad language, but on a desktop C# is just better

I just wish C# was a universal language used by Apple and Android too. OMG just imagine that.

you can use it on macs and android, just not with the default implementation

You still can use C# to make ios and android software

just not officially.

I kind of wish that my messages weren't highlighted, because it gives me the false impression that my messages stand out from everybody elses.

We all feel ya

#fwp

I suppose being single and living by yourself would have the benefit of being able to just run around naked.

Would save money.

What has being single have to do with it? Just take them off and run around!

True.

@Lasse Wait, is it really mandatory that you run around? LOL.

Just think about that for a second.

...

Now stop thinking about it.

Well you were the one wanting to run around naked

I know, but I never realized what that really meant.

I mean, why run around.

Might run into something.

Running around aimlessly is sometimes fun, finnish language has a word for it because it's so fun activity

OK what's the word?

juoksennella is the base word

Running around in general?

aimlessly

I've heard that before!

I remember seeing that word once.

@Lasse So what does the base word mean?

running around aimlessly

"run around aimlessly"?

Ok.

Google wants a 512x512 that they can scale down to other sizes. How about that?

that's great

Nice.

Great for retina displays.

Dat eyeball

Needs moar unicorns! :P

large eyes make things cute

^

True.

yup

Looks like an icon for Fish Traumatizer Simulator

which I guess is kinda true

heh, yeah, kinda

Watching game of thrones, finally learned what "The Red Wedding" is :O

:O

hah, that was a treat, eh?

Welp

.. yeah

I saw it late so I didn't get to feel the reaction of all the fans at once

But I imagine it was a collective 2 million people all saying "Well fuck" at the same time.

I saw it late, but not this late

Now I only care about Daenarys

And snow

I remember seeing GOT this, and GOT that exploding on the internet, so I basically had to sign out of all social media until I watched it myself

@hasherr SHHhhhh, don't EVER say you care about a character or side!

He can hear you

What's this secure boot thingy that I've been hearing about?

Yeah, I mean I'd heard of things like I knew about the dragons and I knew about Khal Drogo, but there was this thing... It was something everybody talked about. "The Red Wedding" I knew it was a wedding, and I knew a lot of people would get killed, but I had no idea which side.

Especially since in the last 3 episodes of the third season of got there are 3 weddings

lol

NOOOoooo

Yeah Tyrion too, I like him. And his secret lover.

Who happened to be a porn star before she did GoT lol

hah

wow

lol it's hilarious cause she's a whore in the show

Probably explains why they hired her, they need women who are willing to remove their garments on camera

shrug

@JohnMcDonald Who's your favorite character? If they're introduced in the 4th season, don't say.

NSFW but very relevent - youtube.com/watch?v=5cnaxnXZFKQ

Well, I liked _______ but they are dead, so... yeah

@SpartanDonut A lot of the actors in GoT are/were porn stars

I looked it up after finding out that Shae was.

I didn't disagree with you?

@SpartanDonut lol!

@hasherr dude, that's all women in GoT

except the underage ones

@IcyDefiance lol Danerys Targaryen is supposed to be 15 in the first episode

And her bro is still creepin on her in that first episode.

Also I didn't know this but apparantely the girl who played Arya is older than me

PHP

Oops, didn't mean to use bad language :P

*PCP

  inputWorker = new Thread(() =>
            {
                object lockObject = new object();
                lock (lockObject)
                {
                    while (!hasQuit && !Console.KeyAvailable)
                    {
                        Global.cki = Console.ReadKey(true);
                    }
                }
            });

Would anyone know why this would result in a "deadlock"

I mean I'm reinitializing the variable after each key press, but maybe I shouldn't be doing that? :O

ugh its a race condition

Hello

morning

Morning.

So now i at least have made a pong game. What to make before diving into my enourmous game?

@Blue have a suggestion?

Morning

Does your pong game have a menu and score?

Also a win condition, and an option to restart the game at any time

@Blue no, I am tackling menus and guis pretty alright so that isn't what is needed most of practice, but it does have score

It doesn't matter, it's not a complete game until it's finished.

Give it a start menu, a win condition and a restart option.

Gui is only half of that logic.

it is a completed game when I say its completed

It really isn't

Can I restart easily once I win / lose?

Can I pause?

Can I see my last / highest score?

You can't win

its a forever match

So can I see my high score?

Add a win condition, it can be surprisingly difficult

Yeah,right

but this is not going to be released, I'm just practicing AI

If you don't care about getting something as simple as pong right what corners will you cut on the game you actually want to make.

I can get it right!

Of course I can

but what if I can use the time more reasonable

You just told us you have a forever condition in pong.

Which means you have made it increment a score and then stopped and said "that's a game".

yeah

or just practicing

This is genuine practice at a simple game, not just AI.

call it what you want to

I already have practiced GUI in abandoned space

I'll call it pong if it actually acts like pong.

A win condition is not UI it's an absolutely key part to any game you will ever play.

If the win condition is to beat your last score then you need a high score.

I meant I have made GUIs in Abandoned Space(the game), not in abandoned space

If the win condition is to beat a harder AI then you need a score limit.

Abandoned Space is a simple game

This pong thing wasn't really meant to be a game

just an AI project

Then go build a finished pong game before diving into your enormous game =p

fine, but I don't think its to the better

That's fine, but a few days ago you asked me and others what you should do. We said create a pong game. Not half finish a pong level and say it's a game, but actually complete it with a simple start menu, score and win condition. This will show you the parts needed to create a full game when it's something as simple as pong. If you can't complete pong in under a week with a menu and a scoreboard/win condition you won't even finish the first level of your dream game. It just won't ever happen.

That was the reason for pong, not AI. Just to have been able to have made a full game.

Trying to create a name and a logo for myself.... dang this is hard

It really is

I mean, creating a name and logo is easy, creating a good one :|

@KevinvanderVelden yea :p

Especially when my creativity strikes 0

My first though was "NicksCode" tho I think it is a bit bad.

Finally got 250 reviews under my belt.

Whoo!

And also, aaarrgh! Got one of those tiny flies inside my ridiculously expensive monitor. :(

Damn.

I'll give it a day, let it die and dry out, and then hope I can tap it free so it falls to the bottom, away from the view area.

What monitor do you have?

LG WH3000

Fuuuck

Yeah...

Those are fucking sweet monitors.

I feel for ya.

helo again

Mine are both Asus PB278Q's, if a fingerprint reaches it I go mental.

Hey @joapet99

@Blue That's pretty sexy. :P

Sometimes being an early adopter is bad. :P I could buy two of those for less than what I paid for mine.

I got these for ~£850

(together)

1440p as well so the resolution is still gorgeous.

Yeah

I really like the 16:10 format of mine. But if I could trade it in for two of yours, I'd do it in a heartbeat. :P

One vertical setup for code is just insane.

Hehe

Yup, thats me

I think I'm usually just 4, 5 and 6

@Nick @William'MindWorX'Mariager one of you needs a new gravatar if you're going to be in the room at the same time

I vote Nick. I'm the senior here, so I get to be all authoritative and annoying.

@SpartanDonut naah

I like my gravatar :p

I vote Will takes on a hat.

for the record I really think the avatars look very different

other is dark from inside and other is dark from outside

@Lasse Ya but at a glance my eyes just see a vague color

I can easily tell them apart if I take some time and think about it.

Hardly any time at all really. The problem is I just don't want to think about it

@Blue Do I look like Robin Hood?

@SpartanDonut Yes, we all know how hard it is for you to think. Poor soul.

Yes, yes you do.

hi tyypp

interestingly enough, putting the names of all the moons in the solar system into a markov generator creates some really awesome random scroll names for a roguelike

@Blue done with menus, if it was so much of a deal

lo

anyone know any techniques for creating dense grass in unity? I need to create grass for a football field

I found this, but I don't really want to fork out the $50 u3d.as/content/tomasz-stobierski/volume-grass/1BJ

good looking grass is surprisingly hard to do

usually it's just a billboarded sprite with one axis of rotation

that is a sprite that always rotates to face the camera, but only rotates around the up/down axis

a football field usually has very short grass, so you may be able to get away with just a normal map, especially if the camera isn't getting very close to the ground

Yeah, the camera will be at eye level. So between 5-6 feet.

It should be short lush grass

@DreadPiratePeter examples or it didn't happen

right now I just have a texture on a flat terrain which looks bad

wow, so beautiful I could cry [lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34UM95-P-ultrawide-monitor]

Uuh, either do [text](link) or don't add [] =p

ok, sorry, kind of new to the site

[text](link) doesn't change color enough to notice it's a link, so I don't recommend that either :P

It does if you have a custom stylesheet!

waiting for OVH to reply to support -.-

maybe I will just fork out the $50

@erebel55 looks like its worth $50 to me :P

I'd probably try doing it myself first, especially since Unity has built-in particle stuff that might be able to handle it... but then I'd probably fail and throw out $50 anyway.