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11:00 PM
you can multiply everything 100x
 
I find it interesting that I'm so tolerant to things the majority of people dislike. I should probably not advocate much as good since I am continuously the exception instead of the norm
From a software perspective that is
 
@RoyT. the messages were being deleted immediately after and during conversations between the mods and zoe, so yes, I say she's responsible
 
Jon
I personally like open source things more.
Just for the simple fact that I can run from source instead of rely on binaries
 
@IcyDefiance that's even more conspiratory than believing that Zoey doxxed herself
@Ro
 
and...since there are legitimate legal issues with having your personal information disseminated, those websites probably were responding to legitimate legal pressure
 
11:01 PM
@RoyT. no, the mods contacted her on twitter. the conversation itself wasn't public, but the request for a conversation was.
and the self-doxxing was proven by tumblr's own mechanics, the way the website works. zoe's claims about that weren't even possible.
 
@IcyDefiance basically you believe that a single unimportant indie dev can make numerous of the largest "dont give a shit" message boards go on their knees and do their bidding
 
she said multiple people were posting on her blog, which isn't possible because it only allows one computer to be logged in at a time.
 
icy, here's what i want to say...blaming zoey or her boyfriend is ludicrous. the internet hate machine attacked both sides, but you believe that she's responsible.
 
Jon
GPL license..
 
11:02 PM
it's silly to pick one or the other
 
^ GPL....
 
and say: they deserve death threats
that's justified
no it isn't. never
 
Win8/10's UI could be made in MS Paint, and that's not a good thing
 
@RoyT. she's an SJW with a huge following. and like I said, 4chan recently got new mods that were already censoring sexist or otherwise offensive things. there was a massive exodus to 8chan and masterchan because of it.
 
Pip
I am unhappy at the moment..... my parents won't let me run cat-5e cable for 200 feet :/
 
11:04 PM
@Pip why do you need to?
 
Jon
lmao.. been there
 
@IcyDefiance she has a tiny following compared to reddit or 4chan
brb
 
@SethBattin I said exactly the opposite of that and fuck you for trying again to pin that on me.
 
Pip
@SethBattin Was GOING to set up a RasPi wi-fi access point in the office
 
you said she deserves hate
 
11:05 PM
And he explicitly said no one deserves death threats
 
Pip
yes he did
 
So I think this conversation can now come to a close
Thanks for participating everyone
Sorry I asked
Let's all be friends and hate on Windows 10
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you're right, i missed the death threat part
my bad
 
fuck that, I'm pissed. asshole accuses me of hating feminists and thinking people deserve death threats just because he wants to distract from the whole issue of zoe being a fucking terrible person, and then repeats those accusations over and over even though I discredit them every fucking time.
 
in that case...should the death threats stop? what would have to happen for that tobe the case?
zoey being a terrible person IS NOT AN ISSUE
she is not a cult leader
she is a person
 
11:07 PM
actually she pretty much is
 
you can't stop the death threats. those happen to anyone who gets internet famous, even if they did nothing wrong. Unidan was one of the most loved people on reddit and all he did was cheerfully post biology related information and he still got regular death threats.
they're not the problem here
 
@SpartanDonut nice
 
sigh
 
11:08 PM
if death threats aren't a problem, then what is the problem? bad people existing?
 
the problem is (1) censorship and (2) corruption in journalism
oh and (3) those journalists defending a horrible person and demonizing the people who were being censored
 
censorship of hate speech and illegally posted information that ALSO violates terms of use of websites
is not censorship
 
no, it wasn't hate speech of illegally posted information
it was everything on the subject of zoe quinn
which I also already explained several times
 
corruption in journalism, is the same as obama's birth certificate
 
but you just ignore all that
 
11:10 PM
because it's not true
we're talkign about her right now
why isn't her cult censoring us?
we both linked a bunch of articles about her
there are forums discussing it everywhere
and you say that a few youtube threads got shut down?
that is is meaningless
twitter sure as shit didn't shut down
here's a fun example of reddit censoring: reddit.com/domain/gamersgate.com
the things you have complained about are imaginary
 
we're not on a website big enough for them to worry about and there aren't any mods online anyway. but at this point, if a mod was online, he'd probably shut down the conversation just because his opinion has been so heavily influenced by the shit journalists who are desperately trying to defend their corruption. just like yours has been.
 
for who to worry about?
there is no all-powerful zeoyquin organization
 
and it wasn't the admins who were censoring things, it was the mods, who can't ban websites from anywhere except their own subreddit
 
great
 
you should really stop spouting bullshit when you don't know what you're talking about
 
11:13 PM
you're right
it's an amazing, all powerful corruption, but only on a few subreddits
 
right now all you're doing is desperately trying to defend a horrible, horrible person
 
so i say again
 
but you don't have a single relevant or sensible argument
so you're just making up things now
 
icy, i don't care about her
 
I can't argue against an onslaught of purely fabricated information
 
11:14 PM
i care that you think there is a conspiracy
 
so fuck you, I'm done
back to skyrim
 
i did it guys
 
Pip
sh
 
Ooo, Conspiracy eh? What's the story? (j/k, I was here the whole time)
 
11:17 PM
heh
 
just glad i didn't get blocked by absolutely everyone
debate is always for the audience. trying to convince the opponent is hopeless
 
These are my kind of conspiracy theories - gametrailers.com/shows/pop-fiction
 
this is aesthetically pleasing:
and this is not:
 
Pip
yep
 
11:20 PM
there's just no border, or small change of simulated height or embossing or bevel
 
Pip
You can change the settings.... forget how though
 
 
it's notso bad
i prefer 8 to 7
 
 
Pip
same
 
11:21 PM
same kidn ofdifference
 
I'm a fan of flat
 
I dunno, I rather like win10's borderless windows
 
I like flat things, but I guess it's just the outer border that really breaks it for me
 
I'm not sure I like the grey when the windows aren't in focus
I'd think it could use a different shade of blue or something
maybe become more transparent?
 
yeah it's dumb! every color, giant grey block of inactive windows
 
11:22 PM
You know what gets my goat every time? The reverse endian folder names:
 
but the new transition effects when windows open or close. those are awesome.
such a small thing, but it makes the whole OS feel a lot smoother
 
is 10 not themable?
 
@IcyDefiance yeah I like the transitions
 
@SethBattin probably is. I haven't tried yet.
 
When I go to tell someone hoe to map to O:\, I always leave out the \otherapp
 
11:23 PM
I am hoping it will be. Someone's making an Aero glass thing for Win10 atm
 
@IcyDefiance no skyrim after all?
 
multitasking
multiple monitors is nice
 
Wife is borrowing the tablet... I'm down to 3 monitors again :(
 
anyway, gtg
 
11:24 PM
See ya John.
 
@SethBattin I do have to post one thing proving both that the censorship on 4chan happened and that zoe requested it: i.imgur.com/eRtE3Sb.jpg
 
i apologize for making you angry about it, i phrased things badly early on and you couldn't be blamed for takign them personally. that wasn't my intent
 
turns out a subreddit created to discuss zoe was also banned, which only reddit admins can do, so they're in on it too: returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/reddit-BANNED.jpg
zoe and the gamejam she tried to destroy: i.imgur.com/Gy2n50g.png
she also filed copyright claims against anyone on youtube who didn't like her game, even though they were well within the fair use act: i.imgur.com/X83HEtL.png
 
Pip
wow
 
her gamejam is still accepting donations and still has no start date or any indication that it will ever actually happen: rebelgamejam.com
 
11:33 PM
i would like to respond to your citations without making you angry. is that possible?
 
depends, are you going to accuse me of being anti-feminist or thinking people deserve death threats again? or are you going to say I'm wrong because of your own misunderstanding of how reddit and other websites actually work?
if not, then sure, it might be possible
 
@SpartanDonut Buhu ...
 
Pip
lol
 
this is probably the worst thing zoe did to that gamejam: i.imgur.com/qTu4hYu.png
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Pip
11:36 PM
finally getting my RasPi up and running again :)
 
even contacted internet archive to get articles removed from there: i.imgur.com/ZBOas7p.png
 
the first picture. that is a screenshot of two twitter accounts talking to each other about 4chan that was deleted from 4chan. proof of nothing. maybe a 4chan mod didn't like it. maybe it was deleted for some other reason (like the first rule of 4chan). maybe those twitter accounts were compromised or fake or both. the average lifespan of 4chan posts is measured in seconds. deleted 4chan posts are not evidence of a conspiracy.
that's the first link, will you be angry if i go on?
 
one of the twitter accounts is zoe's, which she has never claimed was hacked.
 
she didn't?
ok, how about the 6 other reasons it doesn't mean anything?
 
she claimed her tumblr was hacked and she was doxxed through that account, but parts of her story were impossible because of the way tumblr was worked and the info in the dox was fake (and her password was never posted anywhere even though a large number of 4chan users were supposed to be using her account at once)
but she never claimed her twitter account was hacked
 
11:49 PM
interesting to know
so that wasn't her bank info?
 
correct. zoe isn't even her real name.
and she admits in that tweet both that she contacted 4chan and that 4chan was deleting things on her behalf
 
but she doxed herself? but with fake documents?
 
As they should because of privacy policy...
ffs Icy
you're getting more conspiracy by the minute
 
@SethBattin yes, to get the publicity and sympathy
 
Like Zoey has secret power over 4chan
 
11:50 PM
maybe there is a person at 4chan who is a real human being somewhere (probably, since my argument swings both ways)
 
@RoyT. again, 4chan recently got new mods that were already deleting sexist and otherwise offensive things. 4chan's new mods were already known to be the kind of person that would like zoe. there was a massive planned exodus to 8chan and masterchan because of it, well before zoe even became a thing. 4chan is dead.
 
wow mods that delete sxist content... wow
much care
 
4chan died so long ago lol come on guys
remember the whole "OMG 4CHAN DYING OF CANCER" phase? that was after it died
 
@RoyT. and now you have contradicted yourself
which is it, are the mods untouchable bastions of free speech, or are they good people because they aren't bastions of free speech?
 
ok, well, onto your next picture. momento, por favor
 
11:53 PM
@IcyDefiance I said that its against the policy
never that they are the bastion of free speach
*speech
 
what policy? 4chan has no policies.
 
you put words in my mouth now
 
except no CP
they don't allow that
 
It has a huge rules lsit
 
which has never been enforced in any way until a few months ago
 
11:54 PM
>.<
Ok once more, why would 4chan do exactly what Zoey says?
 
here, I'll find info on the exodus if you want
 
And is that in any way Zoeys fault?
I dont care about the exodus or 4chan
I care about why you think a single no-name indi dev can command different websites to do things
 
second picture: deleted comments on a thread about a video about feminism. That happens all the time, because the first 50 comments on any video like that are hateful garbage. the first 10000 are on youtube itself. deleting them is the appropriate action for any respectable public forum. not evidence of a conspiracy
 
Its hilarious how you fault SJW for this
I cant take this anymore
random imgur things as proof
this is not what gamergate is about
 
11:56 PM
mhm, and you didn't even look at the image
 
I did
First line
 
It says Moot has sold out to the SWJ legion
thats such a dergatory nonsense line that I stopped there
 
third picture: a thread about...something. can't say, because it's empty. but i have a feeling i know what kind of posts were being put in there, and by whom (4channers). again, reddit is perfectly within their rights to delete garbage as they see fit, which is also the appropriate reaction to threads full of hateful garbage. not evidence of a conspiracy
 
@SethBattin "because the first 50 comments on any video like that are hateful garbage" - bullshit, I've already said several times the comments were nothing like that. in fact on reddit any comments like that get downvoted to hell anyway, so there's really no reason to delete them. and even if they didn't get downvoted AND it was justifiable to delete them, they don't normally get deleted so obviously there's another reason for them being deleted.
 
11:57 PM
GASP they are mad about getting banned for posting celeb nudes.. which is illegal
Hhaah have you been to the mansrightactivist page on reddit, comments like that do not get downvoted :P
Man this is working me up
sorry
Your arguments are just nonsense
 
@RoyT. please tell me how many subscribers that sub has and how many upvotes the average post gets
also, that sub has zero relevance to /r/gaming
none at all
even mentioning it is fucking bullshit
 
and any question I ask are countered with a repeat of old info or a imgur pic
 
you haven't asked questions, you've only mocked things you haven't even read
 
reddit.com/r/MensRights ThunderFoot (GG guy) right there
first page
 

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