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9:03 PM
@AlexM. If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands!
Did everyone notice the description change for the chat room?
 
There were dozens of trivial messages that Josh un-starred
 
Yeah, I'm unstarring some more. Like those linked.
 
Remember when we passed 1337 stars? We're back to 1318
 
The 5 basics of being a game design problem solver bit.ly/162DM03
 
@Gajoo No
 
9:07 PM
@JohnMcDonald I noticed that yesterday :P
It'ls likely we'll never reach 1337 again
 
>.< did I just click a shortened link?!
 
OH SNAP
 
c'mon, I wouldn't hurt you guys
 
9:09 PM
Uh oh.
Opening questions fails for me, anyone else?
 
Yessir
on SO too
 
Right now someone is doing the "oh shit" mantra.
 
WHY DID I PUSH IT TO PRODUCTION NOW????
I had one of those moments a while back kind of... was in the middle of a DB change that was scheduled and pushed a wrong button. Thankfully I knew what data was in there before and I just recreated it (could have restored from backup too) but I was definitely scared for a moment
 
I need job. Must oDesk now
 
@CodeAssassin illegal
 
9:12 PM
yeah, the NSA will find out
it's safe for Romanians, but you might get in trouble
 
I hacked the NSA
they don't know squat
 
I ain't kidding
 
@AlexM. Haha :<
Labor Laws...
 
^^
Not to mention site policy
 
@AlexM. oDesk's policy is 18+
Dammit
Kids should be able to make money....
if they are talented... but noooooooooo
That's some jacked up crap.
 
9:14 PM
Washing dishes at a local restaurant is how you make money
 
@ToddersLegrande Screw that. Why did I learn programming...
Menial Labor is not for me.
 
Just get one of your parents to sign up for it, then they can outsource the work to you.
 
but If I have to :<
 
@CodeAssassin that's the spirit!
 
@Byte56 Hmmm.... that is a very good loop-hole.
 
9:15 PM
I personally would not let my parents control my income.... but thats just me
 
I'll talk it over with Dad.
@ToddersLegrande I don't want them to...
but I'm not an adult - and I have restrictions.
 
It's not his parents controlling his income. They're enabling him to earn his own money.
If my child came to me with that suggestion I would be all for it.
 
Other parents would see it as leverage I'm sure
 
until dad saw me taking money out the ATM, he kept on saying I was lying
this was back in 10th, few years ago
 
I grew up trying to be very independent... which didn't necessarily sit well with my parents who wanted to be somewhat more controlling than I would have liked
 
9:21 PM
controlling parents are great that way
they produce kids who are independent and unwilling to accede to authority
 
or murderers
 
I honestly had great parents. They did a good job. We just didn't get along as well the more independent I became. Now that I don't live with them we get along great.
In general, its better to see more involved / controlling parents than parents who just aren't there.
 
I'd rather my parents believed more in my abilities
 
@Byte56 site is working again. Not sure how long its been.
According to meta.SO - 6 minutes ago. Not bad I guess.
 
@AlexM. Have you tried... telling them that?
 
9:29 PM
can't reason with them, they're that kind of people
11 mins ago, by Alex M.
until dad saw me taking money out the ATM, he kept on saying I was lying
this extends to pretty much everything
 
That's too bad.
I have pretty decent parents. They were always fair and reasonable.
 
I am also in the "Now that I don't live with them or have to interact with them on a regular basis we get along great" boat
 
My mom would get upset about something and then my dad....
Could never figure out why he was upset
Good times lol
 
9:56 PM
My parents made me do chores, but let me get out of them if I found something else to do that I enjoyed doing more. I ended up with vacuuming, emptying the dishwasher (not loading it), doing the litterbox, and folding laundry. And mowing the lawn.
My brother alternated with loading the dishwasher and the laundry, helped clean the litterbox when it needed it, and cleaned the kitchen.
He did the less frequent, but more intensive jobs (excepting for the lawn).
We both hauled wood and cleaned the car; me doing the vacuuming and windows, him doing the outside and interior hard surfaces.
 
Sounds like good people.
 
Yeah. My parents had a timeshare in Florida where we would go around Easter break or the start of summer vacation, too. We were a Disney and Nintendo household.
Around 10, my mom and dad got divorced, but my mom soon met back up with her high school sweetheart, who then became my stepdad before I hit 13.
Since my dad was a pilot, he was always gone; my stepdad became a secondary father figure to me.
They would always stress that they were never hypocritical, and always honest with me about their own shortcomings.
And the fact that they are successful and happy with what they have did a lot to influence me in a positive manner.
Also, I ramble about my parents, because they were awesome and they knew it.
 
And I didn't even have a console until Nintendo 64 :(
 
My parents would do stuff like negotiate with me on what a fair punishment would be when I broke the rules.
 
@JohnMcDonald Same here, actually.
 
10:04 PM
(But they made up for in spades by giving us our own computers instead, which was quite uncommon for the day)
 
@Byte56 "3 days grounded" "0 days grounded" "2 days grounded" "best I can do is 3 hours but with TV"
 
@Jimmy Kind of like that.
 
@Byte56 My parents started doing this sort of stuff with me... then I realized that the stuff I would come up with for punishment was worse than what they wanted, so most of the time I just went along with them.
 
that is what I imagine negotiating for the terms of your own punishment must be like
@ShotgunNinja you better have someone come with you when you're buying a car
 
I came up with punishments that I felt fit how disappointed or upset they were with me, and they'd cut down the terms.
 
10:09 PM
Ah, my wife is the worst as negotiating/selling.
 
Redacted
 
She was making a craigslist ad for selling my car, she was listing the cons.
Yeah
 
@ToddersLegrande lol
 
this is currently my favorite
 
10:16 PM
Favorite what?
 
song
There's no video
 
Well, there's a slideshow.
 
it's a song, yes
I did not even notice there's a slideshow :(
partly because I listen to the song in foobar2000
then again, I'd switch to another tab even if listening on youtube
 
This is mine:
I just crank that up and zen program.
 
the only thing coming from Ennio that I know is the soundtrack to 'once upon a time in the west'
 
10:18 PM
Well, give that one a listen. It's Yo-yo Ma, playing Ennio.
So not really coming from Ennio.
Well, it kind of is.
Don't contradict me.
Get it right, byte.
 
it sounds emotional-movie deep
the violin at 3:00 could fit a WW movie
like... saving private ryan or something
 
Pretty sure it's a cello throughout.
 
I suck at recognizing instruments
 
The give away is Yo-yo plays the cello.
I could be wrong too.
I just like it.
 
If Yo-yo plays the cello, and Little Tim plays yo-yo, does Little Tim indirectly play the cello?
bad joke I know
 
10:24 PM
Well, it would be a good joke
if it wasn't so bad.
But the answer is: yes.
 
<---- pwnd by Byte56
 
Also this one from the same album is rather good:
Both of those are really nice when you have a good sound system.
 
I've a crappy Trust 2.1
 
10:32 PM
certainly are, but a bit expensive
 
I think $400 is on the cheap side for home audio systems
 
Yeah... they were worth it for me. I really enjoy quality sound.
 
this one even comes with a woofer / controller
 
It's for my computer.
 
mine were like, $50. I never listened to music on more expensive systems, so I don't know what I'm missing
 
10:34 PM
I use headset for computer because I need to yell at people
 
Quite satisfied with it thus far
But yeah that with my headphones
 
hmmm don't stand mikes pick up a lot of ambient noise compared to headsets?
 
I use headphones at work. Bleh. I love my speakers.
 
Yes but its really not that bad as long as theres not a lot of racket going on in another room.
 
I can tell which of my friends are using a stand mike because I can hear their typing
 
10:37 PM
But the mute button is in a very convenient spot which works great for work phone calls
I don't do much voice with gaming
 
Anyone use libgdx here? Are these setView calls accurate: gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/58486/…
 
what was that website where you could paste in images from the clipboard?
I forgot the name :(
 
snag.gy
imgur.com too
 
thanks! :D
man I'm feeling so sleepy all of a sudden
 
any one here use blender?
 
10:47 PM
somewhat
 
Yes
 
it's so silly how people give iOS' Bastion bad ratings because it does not work on their devices, when the description clearly says IMPORTANT Bastion requires an iPad 2 or newer, iPhone 4S or newer, or iPod touch (5th gen).
 
Smoothies are great.
3D models of smoothies are better.
 
I'll admit. I own a Ninja.
 
@AlexM. shouldn't the App Store require tagging for minimum hardware?
 
10:49 PM
for some reason the tagging is wrong
 
@Jimmy now now... lets be logical here.
 
Requirements: Compatible with iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPod touch (3rd generation), iPod touch (4th generation), iPod touch (5th generation) and iPad. Requires iOS 5.1 or later. This app is optimized for iPhone 5.
though when you open the game's page, the message I mentioned earlier is the first thing you see
 
@Dave That all you wanted to know?
 
@Byte56 i have a object in object mode yet its showing see through looks like a bug no matter what angle i rotate my view i just see through it
 
Screenshot?
 
10:50 PM
i have it set to solid not texture.
sure please hold
 
Xray mode turned on?
 
Do they even still have XRray mode?
 
yeah, I'd totally post the question in the Blender SE
helps it gain some ground
 
Yeah, you can press Z to toggle between solid and wireframe mode
 
10:51 PM
@Byte56 I mean there used to be an 'XRAY' button
 
I don't think they have that anymore.
 
i think it might have been an armature feature?
 
 
so you could see the bones that were inside a model
 
was meant to say i have it in texture paint mode.
 
10:52 PM
Looks like the normals are reversed.
 
im thinking its a bug as i recently updated my blender version =/
 
@Dave normals?
 
argh got damn
so it is
must of pressed under view instead of over view when i unwrapped
 
Nice, it's fixed?
 
guna redo the uv
 
10:54 PM
you could just flip the normals
unless something worse is happening your UVs should be mapped correctly (I assume the noise is from a texture displacement?)
 
my maps is showing underneath the object instead of on top
 
(╯°□°)╯︵ slɐɯɹou
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i've yet to work out how to flip the normals
 
You can go to edit mode, hit A, then CTRL+SHIFT+N
 
oh i see the button in edit mode
 
10:57 PM
Or maybe just Ctrl+N
I forget.
 
works :)
thank you
 
Nice.
 
what causes it to be the wrong way the first time round normally so i can avoid that in future
 
Not sure what caused in the in the first place. Could have been like that from the start but you didn't notice it until you textured it.
 
@ToddersLegrande must...not...star
I FAILED
 
10:59 PM
It's easy to fix anyway
 
yeh
 
But now you know what it looks like
I'm guessing you would have been able to see it fine from the bottom.
 
google transparent object kept giving me render settings stuff - i was convinced it wasnt that
yeh i could see the under neath was textured
 
Well, you can post a question about it on the Blender SE with details like, what you were searching for and how those weren't the results you were looking for. Perhaps someone else will find it when they have the same problem.
You can post an answer to it as well.
Something like, Why is my model suddenly transparent?
I'm not sure, it might be to broad.
Worth a try, make sure to include the screenshot.
 
11:26 PM
the problem is, the screenshot is worth 1000 words. It instantly screams "normal problem"
as in, "I can see the underside of the model, therefor it is most likely flipped normals"
 
just unflip them
normals ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
 
I don't think that's a problem. It means when someone is searching for it when they're having the problem, they'll be able to easily recognize that this is likely the issue they're facing.
 
11:50 PM
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