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4:00 PM
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Q: Let's kill all the [character]s

rand al'thorDoes this site really need a character tag? Nearly every question is about some character in one way or another. And character wouldn't work as the sole tag on a question, which makes it a meta tag and therefore undesirable, according to SE central policy. The purpose of tags is supposed to be ...

 
@MetaReel What a sensible suggestion you have there, MetaReel.
MetaReel sounds like material.
 
@Randal'Thor he is drunk today ;p
 
@NapoleonWilson I would be very upset if someone "fixed" the examples from my answer while this debate is ongoing...
 
Oh great, now it makes a ping sound in all 3 open tabs? That's just ridiculous!
@Catija What are you talking about?
 
4:06 PM
@NapoleonWilson Her answer to meta post
 
Speaking of which, WTH is the tag for?
 
Urgh, I didn't even look at it.
 
@Randal'Thor Even I know not to go there... it's literally Napoleon's favorite tag.
 
> Understanding the underlying concepts and themes behind the film/TV-show and its different interpretations. Not to be used for direct plot discussions.
Wut?
 
Small steps...
 
4:07 PM
HAHAHA!! OMG! My sister came in and said that she is taking me to IHOP for lunch!! What a frigging idiot!! LOL!
 
@Randal'Thor Yeah, let's just get to friggin' film tags. So we have 500 Game of Thrones questions noone can see clear of.
 
@Catija Oh dammit.
 
@Catija Or, in my case..."hops" ;)
 
Still, Napoleon is but one user. If everyone else thinks the tag should go ...
 
And is mine :'(
 
4:09 PM
Sorting and filtering my ass. I still want to know if a question concerns the deeper meaning of the work, the story, the characters, its nature as an adaptation or the intricacies of producing it. I don't want 500 Breaking Bad questions that don't tell me anything about their purpose. Those 5 tags slots aren't there for nothing.
 
I only hate specific scene ( which is gone) and which is open for discussion in meta
 
I'm outta here. See you guys later :)
 
@steelerfan Have fun!
 
@steelerfan bye have fun
 
Later @steelerfan! :-)
 
4:12 PM
@NapoleonWilson Uhuh :(
 
@steelerfan Awww, make the best of it. ;-)
 
It's all good. No worries :)
 
Blurgh, that was annoying. Someone edited the OP's title to ask something different from the body of the question, sparking comments from confused users who wanted it to be more clear what the OP was asking.
Thank goodness for edit privileges.
 
lol
@NapoleonWilson can i expect a good counter argument answer?
 
@Catija Someone else has DVed your answer now. I wonder if there's just going to be a bandwagon effect ...
 
4:17 PM
@Randal'Thor dizzle tried same in one of his meta answer and he also got DV, even before i gave mine
 
@AnkitSharma Tried same what?
 
@Randal'Thor I didn't write it to be popular... I write it to be an option... That's why I'm glad Meta answers don't reflect in your rep.
 
@Randal'Thor Gave answer to remove 5-6tags in single shot
 
@AnkitSharma Certainly not now. I don't have any other counter argument than I already stated. "5 tag slots for various granularity to describe what the question is about. And sorting and filtering my ass." I'll try to put that into an answer then.
 
Just remove the a word, while answering ;D
 
4:19 PM
@NapoleonWilson Sounds like an argument for allowing any tag.
 
@AnkitSharma You don't say. ;-)
@Randal'Thor No, it doesn't.
 
@NapoleonWilson How is "character" better than "specific scene"? They're exactly the same.
 
Why does the existence of 5 tag slots, and your poorly expressed contempt at sorting and filtering, make in particular a good tag?
 
@Catija No, not all questions are about the intricacies of a character, his personality and his motivations.
 
And not all questions are about one specific scene in a film...
 
4:21 PM
@Randal'Thor Because it helps to classify questions and the story's characters are an important aspect of a film.
 
@Catija But Napoleon and Ankit alone are enough to give it a negative score, even with my upvote, and then other people might just jump on the bandwagon and downvote it because it has a negative score.
 
@Randal'Thor Well, that's the way it goes. Unfortunately meta polls are exactly that, polls. A few users are enough to express the site's love for ID questions, character tags, or MCU tags.
 
This is why I usually don't vote immediately on policy discussions on SFF meta. The first few votes sometimes have more weight than they should in deciding which way the discussion goes, and I don't want to dictate anything.
 
In the same way noone technically stops you from calling a few SciFi pals to help if the decision seems to take an unwanted outcome. (Though, I don't know if they even hate over there.) ;-)
 
@NapoleonWilson Indeed, but why would I call a few SciFi pals to participate in a discussion of M&TV policy? Unless they're also active members of M&TV, of course (like @KutuluMike or @DrRDizzle), in which case calling them "SciFi pals" would be a mite disingenuous.
 
4:25 PM
@Randal'Thor I'm a user of the site and I vote according to how I would like the site to go. I'm not neutral in this regard, I'm a user of the community as any other and I have a specific outcome in mind that I want the meta discussion to result in. Why should I wait with my voting, the other users won't either.
@Randal'Thor I don't know. I was just stating the matter of things.
 
@Randal'Thor that sound weird.
 
Well, I do that on discussions where I don't have a clear opinion on. Which just isn't the case here.
 
Nobody knows if mod voted or not , so waiting is weird to see genral user voting and how you know other mod didn't voted
 
The guy that votes first instead of me obviously didn't wait as long as I did either then. So why should I? Noone knows whose vote that is.
 
Voting also give otehr user insight where discussion is going, so that they also vote fast to make it in right direction if it's not according to them
 
4:29 PM
@Napoleon @Ankit Of course nobody would know whose vote that is, but that's not the point. Mod abuse doesn't become less mod abuse if nobody knows it occurs. (Not that I would call that abuse, of course, but the point still holds.) It's a matter of honour.
 
"Not that I would call that abuse, of course," - Phew, you got me there for a moment.
 
@AnkitSharma Exactly: you're trying to influence the vote. Which is exactly what a mod shouldn't be doing, IMO.
 
I like waiting to vote until I see both sides of the argument and let people discuss it a bit... more informed voting.
 
@Randal'Thor It's very disingenuous to call that a matter of honour (and imply not reserving my vote for later is a lack thereof). You can vote whenever you want, leave me to do so either.
 
@Randal'Thor is this that same question you got on SFF: english.stackexchange.com/questions/333735/…
 
4:31 PM
@Randal'Thor So by your definition mod shouldn't vote on meta discussion because ......???? Or wait for the final decison and then say.........oooooo i forgot to vote
 
@NapoleonWilson Sure, to each his own. I'm talking about my own personal honour.
@Catija Yes :-/ VTCed.
 
@Randal'Thor Worth mentioning in the TL?
 
Voting is my right, if i am mod or not. And i can express it whenever i want. I don't want excuses to run away from it
 
@Randal'Thor I am not trying to influence any votes. I see a question on meta and I vote on it, as every other friggin' user does. You are trying to see dishonourable behaviour by any means possible and I call that questionable.
 
@AnkitSharma No, that's not what I said at all.
 
4:34 PM
@Randal'Thor You are saying mod should vote later but the reason is not acceptable to me
Even when i was normal user in past, i voted with the same pace
 
@NapoleonWilson I wasn't addressing you there. Ankit said early voting gives other users "insight where discussion is going", so that they can "also vote in [the] right direction". That's trying to influence the vote.
 
@Randal'Thor Still, this implies I'm less honourable and I don't particularly like that.
 
So changing it after becoming mod is weirdly wrong decision
 
Which, well and good, I upvoted Catija's answer almost as soon as she posted it. But I wouldn't usually do that on SFF where I'm a mod.
 
@Randal'Thor If everybody going to look each others face then who is going to vote.
 
4:36 PM
@Randal'Thor Uh, because why? You are not only a moderator, you are also a user, especially in meta discussions.
 
@Randal'Thor which is wrong to me, not appreciated what you should is running away from things
 
And that live stream sucks, too!
 
@Catija Probably, yeah. It's vaguely related to scifi, but not at all to English, so who knows where they'll spam it next. (I did tell them it was unlikely to be well-received on any SE site.)
@AnkitSharma Lots of behaviour should change when one becomes a mod.
 
@Randal'Thor But not voting except close hammer
 
@Randal'Thor Indeed, noone denies that.
 
4:39 PM
@NapoleonWilson And I'm one of the most active users of SFF meta. So if the first few votes tend to sway a discussion, and I usually see the post before anyone else, then if I vote immediately it amounts to me trying to sway the community's decision my own way on all policy discussions.
@AnkitSharma Sorry, I can't parse this sentence.
 
@Randal'Thor That obviously seems to be your interpretation of things, indeed.
 
I am just voting (UV or DV), not a mod power thing and it's a damm decision which my site have to live with. I can't run away from it , i am not going to play safe here. I am not pushing other to vote like me but that doens't mean i should kill my opinion for it
@Randal'Thor ok, we can agree to disagree on that then
 
@Randal'Thor you know what's even worse for that?
Answering meta discussions with compelling arguments that sway readers' opinions.
Some folks do that all the time and frankly it's disgusting
 
@Shog9 Now that's the best possible way to sway people's opinions.
 
@Shog9 The sarcasm is strong with this one...
 
4:43 PM
Fine, I took my vote back and wait until at least 4 other people voted for it.
So, 4 people voted on it, making my vote now.
 
And I'm still waiting for an answer from @NapoleonWilson on that M&TV meta post I just made :-)
 
I am not going to take my vote away form a meta just because i am mod, can't see a point in it
 
Meta voting is a pretty weak signal at the best of times, prone to all sorts of unintended influence and intentional manipulation. Vote or don't, but if you have a strong opinion please at least make sure you voice it.
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Indeed.
 
@Shog9 fully agreed
 
4:46 PM
@Shog9 Btw, since you're here ... there was a really good answer from you on main meta about that, how some people vote for a bad thing because it's well-argued and some people downvote a good thing because it's badly laid out and so on, which I tried to find the other day without success. Any idea which post I'm thinking of?
 
oh my god my eyes have gone blue
 
Probably the one about polls being bullshit.
 
@KutuluMike lol
 
Smurf wars... round 1 - [DING!]
 
@Shog9 That has never happened in the entire history of the internet.
 
4:48 PM
@Catija Is chainsaw allowed
 
@Randal'Thor I've written that many times
 
@AnkitSharma Only if everyone gets one.
 
I am disappointed that we don't have Udta Punjab question, even when it' top controversially and well praised film here.
@Catija I have 2 broken ones for you and rand ;p
 
@AnkitSharma Pretty sure I'm not really in this fight... I said my piece on the meta topic and I'm just watching.
 
@Catija Indeed.
 
4:51 PM
@Catija Then i won ;D
 
@Shog9 Ah well, never mind then. Can't even remember now what I wanted to quote that link for.
@Catija We agree on the tag, so that puts us on the same side in the meta debate. And I hope there isn't going to be any real fighting with chainsaws :-P
 
@Randal'Thor Well, considering we all live in different countries, I think a real fight would be... difficult.
 
Seeing how the actual fight here isn't about the tag anyway but about a useless discussion arising from that...
 
@NapoleonWilson An actual fight? Let's not have one of those.
 
4:56 PM
Anyway discussion was more when it's suitable for the mod to vote
@Randal'Thor hey my chainsaw is ready, don't ditch me now
 
@AnkitSharma Balefire trumps chainsaws. It wouldn't be a fair fight.
 
@Randal'Thor Indeed (and indeed).
 
The Planet From Space!
 
Finally watching Maqbool
 
5:04 PM
I couldn't find it, unfortunately. Would really like to watch it. But I don't have much time until thursday anyway.
 
hmmm
 
There's also an Australian gangster thing with Sam Worthington, where he supposedly has sex with the witches (who are hot girls there).
 
@NapoleonWilson which film?
 
@AnkitSharma This one.
 
I don't know what is the real story of Macbeth
Might check it later
@NapoleonWilson ohhh
I don't know if i ever watched Australian film or not
 
5:10 PM
@AnkitSharma For a short primer, you can try the excellent animated interpretations they did in the 90s.
 
I will better read book synopses
 
Shakespeare: The Animated Tales (also known as The Animated Shakespeare) is a series of twelve half-hour animated television adaptations of the plays of William Shakespeare, originally broadcast on BBC 2 between 1992 and 1994. The series was commissioned by the Welsh language channel S4C. Production was co-ordinated by the Dave Edwards Studio in Cardiff, although the shows were animated in Moscow by Soyuzmultfilm, using a variety of animation techniques. The scripts for each episode were written by Leon Garfield, who produced heavily truncated versions of each play. The academic consultant for...
 
Lack of time
 
@NapoleonWilson For a bunch of Aussie gangsters, they have peculiarly Scottish-sounding names :-P
 
@Randal'Thor Well, all those English guys are hardly to distinguish anyway. At the end of the day they're all immigrants from the Isles. So I wouldn't wonder to find a Duncan in Melbourne.
 
5:13 PM
@NapoleonWilson The South Island of New Zealand is where the Scottish heritage in the Antipodes has gathered.
They even have a city Dunedin named after Edinburgh.
 
To me everyone is either white or black and i am brown or i can say pale yellow
 
With the same names for rivers, streets, and so on as in the original Edinburgh.
 
@Randal'Thor And inhabited by Dúnedain, I suppose?
 
@NapoleonWilson 6 hours......too long
 
@AnkitSharma The invidual things are just 30 minutes, though.
 
5:15 PM
Yeah checked that
 
@NapoleonWilson Probably, seeing as New Zealand is totally overrun by LotR stuff since they filmed those movies there.
Even one of the national airline's safety videos:
 
@AnkitSharma But anyway, I can still highly recommend the '71 Polanski film (for the 50th time) for something quite accurate and very entertaining and atmosphereic. Or the new Fassbender one, even if that left a few parts of the dialogue away and made some minor adaptation changes.
 
@NapoleonWilson i can try later one
 
@Randal'Thor Yeah, "New Zealands most beautiful green-screen sets". ;-P
 
Woo, just got the Outspoken badge on M&TV.
Someone must have starred me in here who never has before.
 
5:20 PM
I remember starring to way way before
And today i got nothing to star from u ;p
 
I starred something, but I'm also sure I starred something before long ago.
 
@Randal'Thor I remember being surprised that there were 10 different users in the room in the first place.
 
Probably @Catija starring this.
 
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Q: the name of the movie?

DianaKThere is a movie about a guy that comes from a rich family, he leaves his father to work in asylum, a girl falls in love with him, then he decided to take her with him to his brother's wedding, and he finds out she is not crazy, and she didn't kill her mother, her mother has schizophrenia

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Q: Soldiers in spaceship travel into the past to stop a religious book from being written

VakuuI watched the movie as a teen. In the future some soldiers were losing a war. So they get on some spaceship traveled in time back in the past to find some person that wrote a book to prevent him from writing the book which will became like religious book. And they had explosives around their nec...

 
I nearly missed the entire first half of the game.
 
5:23 PM
@AnkitSharma ok
 
@Shog9 thanks
 
@MovieReel If that one doesn't meet your ID standards, feel free to punt it over to SFF. (But hopefully it does and will get a good answer here.)
@AnkitSharma FYI, the OP is still visible in the revision history.
 
@AnkitSharma @Randal'Thor You're all a bunch of liars, by the way:
 
5:27 PM
@Randal'Thor I can't help. Ask CM or better ignore as he is dissociated as he wanted
 
@NapoleonWilson What flag is that?
Northern Ireland?
 
@Randal'Thor Supposedly.
 
Yep, I see the Red Hand of Ulster in the middle.
 
And why doesn't the Union Jack have a friggin' red dragon on it?
 
@NapoleonWilson Northern Ireland =/= Ireland though, and the whole of Ireland was in the UK at the time the Union Jack was created.
@NapoleonWilson Because Brits aren't cool enough for dragons.
 
5:29 PM
@Randal'Thor Ah, that makes sense.
 
@NapoleonWilson they ignored one whole country while making union jack
 
And why do the Welsh have their own anthem while the Northern Irish just use the British one?
(Or wait, was it the other way around?)
 
Someone is lazy to make an anthem
 
And why are they ever there? Saxony doesn't have a team either! (Ok, that one could even be a good question for Sports.)
 
@NapoleonWilson Northern Ireland doesn't have much of a history as a nation. England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland all had national identities long before Britain was a thing, but Northern Ireland was a more or less arbitrary split made to ensure Britain kept the factories in the north and didn't let them fall into republican hands.
 
5:40 PM
@Randal'Thor Yeah, just noticed. I'm only half-way through, though.
But I'm looking forward to it, no matter if someone answers it already.
 
@NapoleonWilson I suppose that's not a duplicate of this which you already answered?
 
@Randal'Thor No, the older one is about 5-part series that ended in '99. This one is about the new standalone novel from '13.
 
OK. See, I need to thoroughly go over your answer on reading order at some point, and try to follow it all.
 
OMG foreigner learning Hindi videos ae too funny ;D
 
@Randal'Thor I can only recommend it. The 5-part series won't end till '17 for you English speakers, though.
 
5:46 PM
@Randal'Thor not really the point of this answer, but it does touch on the matter:
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A: A Proposal for More Constructive Downvoting on Meta: Express Disagreement by Answering the Question

Shog9Introduction: the curse of free will This is a good idea... For those rare discussions that actually lend themselves to it. In my experience, many - if not most - do not. To pull this off, you have to be able to present a topic for discussion in a way that doesn't immediately come off as leading...

Also relevant to some of the other discussion here
 
There was a similar discussion about that in Mos Eisley some days ago (which I would guess is where Mr. al'Thor was trying to quote it).
But the CMs take their new approach of no chat lurking quite serious now, eh? ;-)
 
@Shog9 Thanks; interesting read. Especially that last section with the three numbered points; I can confirm that this works.
@NapoleonWilson There are so many discussions in Mos Eisley; I can't remember 'em from one day to the next ;-)
 
@Randal'Thor Someone proposed a change in the attitude towards meta voting. I don't know who, though, or because of what question.
 
@NapoleonWilson Yeah, I vaguely remember that. I think Skooba was in that discussion somewhere.
 
6:05 PM
Hmm, nice one, even if not too unexpected. But with only 1:0 the Ulster boys still have a reasonable chance even on the 3rd place.
 
6:17 PM
Heh, Area51 still has the good old close-reasons.
 
@NapoleonWilson Area 51 is old and abandoned, so it's well obvious
 
Those Area52 dreams are long shattered
 
6:41 PM
Looks like Mr. Ceallach is on another edit spree ;-)
 
Until at least those very few tags I follow are somewhat fixed.
But I learned my lesson of 5 per 15. Hell, bet sure I learned that.
 
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Q: Help! Need to remember movie title

grepNstepNI'm trying to remember a movie. It was black and white, the language being english. The protagonist stumbles upon a movie in a theatre that somehow disturbs all those who see it. I forget the middle but towards the end our anti-hero finds out that Gnostics in some remote sect concocted the schem...

 
6:56 PM
"Hungry steel balls"?
 
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Q: Hungry steel balls

Raw NWhen I was a kid I watched a movie or maybe it was a TV show that I am now trying to identify. Here's what I remember: steel balls (spheres) slightly larger than marble start to fall from the sky. They can move on their own. Two guys enter the supermarket and there was a scene where a steel ball ...

 
7:35 PM
yesterday, by Napoleon Wilson
Ok, 5 per 15 is apparently still a bad idea. Maybe I should switch to 5 per day or per week. ;-)
 
5 per 15 what?
 
@Catija Edits on sites that are even more concerend about their frontpage than we are.
 
7:50 PM
@Catija that is the consensus on SF/F on how many tag edits you can do at a time.
5 questions on first 15 on the front page.
 
@KutuluMike Well... that's not what the Meta looks like is really the consensus...
 
we get people complaining a lot about "ruining the site" otherwise.
@Catija it was more of a chat consensus.
 
@KutuluMike Apparently not.
 
they could have changed it, though.
 
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Q: How many tag edits should we allow per day?

ValorumBackground. Over the past few days a user has been mass-editing this tag (nolan-batman-trilogy) onto the Nolan trilogy films. 33+ edits have been made in the past 48 hours with no sign of abating. Thus far the volume of changes made has provoked at least two users (that I've seen) into refusing ...

 
7:51 PM
@KutuluMike When was that consensus established? I'm hunting for a useful link to post on meta, but the best I've found so far is a quote from Kevin in chat.
 
Keen was big on keeping the numbers down, and Richard believed that bumping too many questions would result in the end of life as we know it on Earth.
@Randal'Thor the chat thing was it.
which is also how it was usually enforced.
pre-mid-2015 we decided lots of things in chat because it's 10000000000000% easier than meta.
 
Meh, anyway, I'm ready to abide by whatever new rules they want to come up with and content with being happy we don't have that rule. I'm starting to understand how kalina felt, though, and that was here. Not to imagine how she must have felt there. ;-)
 
@Randal'Thor but it was way more than just one comment from Kevin.
I'm pretty sure it was discussed multiple times until we settled on "about 5 at a time, please"
more of a polite request than a rule
 
@NapoleonWilson Are you the one that question on Meta is about?
 
yes.
 
7:54 PM
@Catija Yes.
I don't know why I did it. I just got dragged into it somehow by finally deciding to check out some of their questions about all of Christopher Nolan's films.
 
sigh.
 
and wow, I didn't even notice who posted it.
color me shocked and amazed.
 
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Q: Real time computer check globally in Argo

MatíasTowards the end of Argo, the flight tickets that Tony tried to use at the airport were cancelled. Back in U.S., Jack is trying to reverse this situation. When the flight attendant behind the counter checks them again through the computer they were avalilable. All of this happens in no more tha...

 
Meh, to his defense, I don't think I have anything to do with it. He would have done that for any other user, too. (Or so I hope.)
 
he would.
for what it's worth, the CM community is mostly on your side.
the response we get every time this issue comes up is "why the hell do you care so much about your front page? it changes all the time."
 
7:56 PM
Seriously, I wish there were a way for tag only edits to not pop to the top of the feed.
 
@KutuluMike The trouble then is to decide on what "at a time" means. The comment from Kevin, plus the 'rule of thumb' that both you and I have picked up, say it should be "per 15", but the old meta post from Gilles and the new one from Richard say it should be "per day".
@KutuluMike Because SO is the flagship site and nobody cares about SO's front page.
 
It's not like we're not worried about our frontpage here, too (and we've been seriously called out for that). But I think you can overdo with caution.
 
@Randal'Thor the rule of thumb I always followed was no more than 5 on the front page at a time, but I dunno.
@Randal'Thor this was from people who are regulars on plenty of other SE sites.
 
@Catija Indeed, at least for moderators.
 
@Catija yes. we all do.
 
7:58 PM
Per day is absurd. Particularly with a high-volume site like SFF... I think five on the front page at a time makes more sense and would be a middle ground... so on quiet days, you might only do one or two but on busy days, you could do 4-5 groupings.
 
that's usually what we ask when we get told we're overreacting.
 
I would have zero problems with manually retagging millions of things, if only it wouldn't mess up the frontpage.
 
@NapoleonWilson This. And it's not as if retagging is that easy to abuse. I mean, you can't add spam to a post's tags, for instance.
 
oddly enough.. the same user that throws a tantrum whenever the front page gets flooded, also reacts negatively whenever we propose something to 'fix' the front-page-floor problem
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Q: Can we make "non-substantive" edits fall off the front page faster than new questions?

KutuluMikeI know that requests for a "minor edit" option come up all the time and are routinely rejected, and for good reasons. (Details can be seen, among other places, at Could we have the ability to mark a change as minor in questions or answers?) On the other hand, we already have a concept of a "non-...

 
@Randal'Thor I think the abuse factor (which I definitely understand) would already be covered by making it mod only.
 
8:00 PM
@NapoleonWilson Sure.
 
It could be a 10K or 20K thing... doesn't have to be mod only... but could be limited to highly trusted users.
 
@Catija Hmm, reputation is still not trust, though, whatever SE tells you.
 
frankly I'd like someone to actually prove to me that it hurts the site in any way.
everyone keeps saying it does.
but does it hurt more than, say, having inconsistent tags? doesn't the long-term benefit outweigh a bit of short-term hassle?
 
I don't like it (personally) because I only ever look at the recent activity page and there's no "next" button... so if the entire page is full of tag edits, I have no clue what the recent activity is.
 
@KutuluMike I only hear one person (ok, two maybe) saying it does. ;-) (But maybe I don't have a sufficient overview. Or they're simply particularly loud persons.)
@Catija Indeed. That's why I'm also generally an advocate of a clean frontpage. But there have to be made some compromises.
 
8:04 PM
Even just a "next" button would be nice... not sure why they only let you see one page of "recent activity".
 
@Catija Well for that you can as well click the full list and sort by "active" ('s what I do when I come from a short vacation and have to catch up everything that happened).
 
But it's so spread out... with all of the first two lines and all.
 
Oh, indeed. Hmm.
Then get the new nav, where you can disable the body preview. (And where there's no reasonable frontpage either anymore. ;-))
 
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Q: Strange 80's or 90's Cartoon with strange alien or troll like bad guys flying around in mushroom like ships

ZDEXThere is this animated show that use to play on Saturday mornings, it was definitely not American, but I suspect it was French animation, It was really bizarre, the hero was this boy with blonde or white hair and I think he had some type of gold band on his head.I think he was bare chested and ...

 
@NapoleonWilson I use new nav on MSE... doesn't bother me now that they fixed the buttons to do what they're supposed to do.
 
8:12 PM
@Catija Uh wut? I thought they cancelled this for now. How do you get it?
 
I opted in months ago...
 
I only know the new SO thing, which is quite a bit different. (And since SO now has something new, I guessed the new nav for all was "postponed".)
 
I don't use SO... but I just checked and I'm definitely still using the New Nav based on the settings on my MSE profile.
I'm not doing the "developer story" thing.
 
Well, I opted in looong ago when it was still hot. But now my MSE definitely looks like Movies.
 
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Q: The Developer Story: Private Beta has started!

bluefeetUpdate: Private beta has started. The initial invites were sent to some of the users who opted in. As mentioned below, we'll be inviting users in batches to monitor load and allow us to watch for bugs and fix issues. It's been 6-8 weeks since we last posted about the Developer Story but ou...

 
8:15 PM
Urgh, yeah, as well as that Documentation thing that has nothing to do on SO (let alone makes sense anywhere else).
 
Hmmmm... I guess you're right... the drop-down menus are gone.
 
@Randal'Thor 5 per day is too strict
 
But yeah, they had fixed the frontpage issue before they cancelled the whole thing.
 
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Q: horror movie yacht mother ghost dressed in white blonde actress

Deea NataliI saw in 2006, i think ,a horror movie with a blonde actress who was trying to beat a record at sailing alone a yacht,and she was hunted by her dead mother,who had short hair and it was dressed in a long white shirt. Do you have any idea?

 
Maybe we should place a 5 per day limit on users ruining the frontpage with bad ID questions. But that's a little too high a threshold. ;-)
 
8:23 PM
5 ID per day , rest will die
 
Or even 5 per frontpage. Awww, that'd be times. <swoon>
 
5 post at a time in frontpage from single user seems more reasonable then 5 post per whole day. — Ankit Sharma 6 mins ago
 
Let the sock puppets rule!
 
I think i did 10+ in a day but i kept gap between them and i don't need approval , so it was bit easy for me
 
@Catija ?_?
 
8:31 PM
@NapoleonWilson Well... if you can get your socks above the edit threshold... you could edit more with Ankit's idea.
And by "your" I don't mean you (Napoleon).
 
@Catija Oh, I see. Well, you don't even need the edit threshold. They can just suggest (and this way even level a bit more).
 
Problem with suggested edit is, you need someone to approve it and then keeping sufficient gap also become tough
 
Indeed. Afterall, the suggestions were what brought it largely to notice in the first place.
But without suggesting edits, how will I ever reach enoguh rep to edit there? ;-)
 
in Mos Eisley, 11 hours ago, by Ankit Sharma
@Randal'Thor I though everything on SFF get high upvote if it have colourful images
So answer some question with colorful images
GIF work even better ;)
 
That requires answering something in the first place, though.
 
8:37 PM
uhunn
They usually get very basic question this days
Track any of your fav
Lets take GoT
 
But anyway, I already have enough reputation to downvote without worrying and to candidate as moderator. Maybe the vote balance at 1,000 for meta and I'm fine.
@AnkitSharma Meh, can't beat all the book people anyway.
 
@NapoleonWilson If i can then why not you.
 
I got like 50 rep for a relatively half-assed GoT answer yesterday.
 
I even skip most of the stuff and hardly answer
 
I hardly find time to answer stuff here. I'm by far not engaged enough into any of those universes to compete with all the "canon" people. It's just not worth the effort.
 
My rep is all due to 2-3 HNQ there
 
8:53 PM
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Q: Married man and the salesman are very pleasant conversation

poriI'm looking for this movie for a long time. I watched Turkish dubbing in 2005-2007. This must be a tv movie. Might be american or british film, I don't know. Film takes place in one room. Married couples arguing at home. Woman wants to divorce her husband. But her husband doesn't agree to a ...

 
@NapoleonWilson To candidate as moderator? But you don't even like SFF!
 
@Randal'Thor That's why it was a joke. ;-)
My only election plaform could be a Richard-style "migrate all the movie questions where they belong!" ;-)
Or maybe I could get reasonable support for "The Nolan Batman films are not effin' science-fiction!"
 
@NapoleonWilson ROFL
 
> Make SciFi.SE Great Again!
 
Ooops i touched the dead mouse, I should leave that meta alone ;D
 
9:02 PM
Eeeek - this is what happens when I go away to eat dinner.
 
lol
My mouse comment is deleted O.o
I though SFF love comments
 
@AnkitSharma BOOOM! ;-P
 
I even allowed the dead mouse on my couch ;'(
 
@AnkitSharma Don't look at me.
Though I'm having a look now to see if any more can be deleted.
 
My dead mouse is looking at you
He will haunt you now ;p
 
9:15 PM
does your dead mouse have a last name?
 
Yes, it's called Mickey Sharma.
Or maybe Dead Mouse.
 
@Randal'Thor He was my pet not family, so not my surname
But for now his name is dead mouse and he lives on my couch
Stop upvoting me, i am not getting rep now
 
9:31 PM
What am I not supposed to upvote?
 
Anything from me
 
10:22 PM
Good night folks
 
G'night!
 
Goodnight, and may the Downvotes be with you.
 
10:43 PM
@Randal'Thor Technically, that chat message wasn't really me accepting that I "had done too much", that was me being sarcastic about the outrage my few (5 per 15) edits still caused. ;-)
 
@NapoleonWilson ...
 
@Randal'Thor That might have been the one you're looking for (it's still not entirely without sarcasm, but it's me genuinely learning the 5 per 15 lesson):
2 days ago, by Napoleon Wilson
Anyway, the lock has already been put on the suggestions. I'll definitely keep it to 5 next time. ;-)
 
The real aim here is not to cause strife or upset in the community. Which is why I'm kinda against any really hard-and-fast restrictive rule, and made that comment about expecting a certain amount of reasonability.
If it had been 7 edits spread out evenly among the top 15 posts on the front page, it probably wouldn't even have been noticed, let alone flagged or taken to meta. 5 in a row (especially with that long username!) is much more jarring on the eye.
 
Sure. I'm largely demotivated anyway now and might keep it to 5 per frontpage or per day on my own by sheer annoyance.
(Or whatever stricter threshold gets consented on meta.)
 
You could find some helpers... then you wouldn't be doing it alone and then half of the argument goes away.
 
10:55 PM
@Catija Nah, they have largely secured themselves against loopholes like this.
 
@NapoleonWilson Sure, but I still have to deal with the general issue and the meta debate that's been caused by this :-)
 
you asked for it.
 
@Randal'Thor Oh, I'm sure he would have noticed anyway.
 
Also, if you'd kept it to your original small batch of edits, it wouldn't have been such a big deal. But when you're on a mission to edit 30 or 50 questions, that's the kind of thing that's going to be noticed and make people say "hey, shouldn't we have agreed this on meta first?"
 
@Catija The only real problem arises when you used all your daily contingent on maintenance and cleanup but then find a genuinely problematic question and have to flag it for moderator attention for someone else to do it because your contingent is up.
 
10:57 PM
Apparently PlayStation Vue is now available on Roku, and will be coming to Android phones and tablets next week with Chromecast support.
 
Contingent of what?
 
For anyone in the US looking to cut the cord and get cheaper cable service without a contract.
 
@Catija Edits you're allowed to do.
 
I didn't realize there was a limit.
@MattD Cable is ebil. We watch everything on Roku already.
 
@Catija Vue is Sony's light weight service. No contracts so you can cancel at any time, and unlimited cloud DVR service that'll store shows you mark as your favorites for up to 28 days.
 
10:59 PM
@Randal'Thor Indeed (the notice thing, the rest not). Meta has nothing to do with it. Either that tag has been used correctly or not. And if not, I should have been instructed about it. The 5 per 15 rule (which, to my defense, I seriously thought was an accepted guideline) is there so that you don't have to say "ok, I'm killing all the frontpage now".
 

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