The Frying Pan

ElendilTheTall

7:07 AM

Morning all

ElendilTheTall

8:18 AM

@Jolenealaska @Cerberus @rumtscho @mien @SAJ14SAJ @cindy

that's what I call a mass-boop

aaaand it doesn't work

or they're just ignoring me

well, Elendil old chap, you're on your own again

ElendilTheTall

8:47 AM

To pass the time, I will attempt to compose limericks about you all. Ahem.

There once was a girl from Des Moines,
My phrases she often purloins,
But she's moved to Alaska,
So now I can't catch her,
And all I can do is rejoin

There once was a young man from Holland,
Whose name was uncommonly common,
So he styled himself canine,
(Heads square root of nine),
And set himself up as a doorman.

There once was a girl from Sofia,
Who had a robotic veneer,
But inside she's quite nice,
(Though not to some mice),
And she paddles like a fine gondolier.

rumtscho

9:03 AM

hi @ElendilTheTall

the poor chat software can't know we've closed our browser windows, maybe even leaving some of them open on a machine we're not attending to.

I like the limericks

ElendilTheTall

@rumtscho <bows>

rumtscho

but maybe you should check the pronunciation of geographical features first

Sofia doesn't rhyme with veneer. Neither Des Moins with purloins. Which was why I stumbled when reading them.

ElendilTheTall

they do with my accent - ia is more or less approximate to eer, and the Moines in Des Moines absolutely does rhyme with purloins

rumtscho

so how are you today?

ElendilTheTall

perhaps you are applying some high-falutin' french accent to Des Moines, but in Des Moines they pronounce it De Moynes

rumtscho

9:07 AM

@ElendilTheTall Sofia (the city, not the Italian female name) is accented at the beginning

ElendilTheTall

not in English it isn't :)

I've only ever heard it pronounced So-fia

rumtscho

well there are people who say "lechestah" too, but do you agree with them?

ElendilTheTall

I don't agree with them to the point of altering my own pronunciation, but I am cognisant of the fact that foreign placenames may be spelled and/or pronounced differently from their native tongues

do you say Par-ee or Par-iss?

Rom-a or Rome?

rumtscho

@ElendilTheTall haha, you got me at that one. In Bulgarian, it's Parizh.

The letter at the end is a ж, like the start of the name of Zhirinovski, or Marshal Zhukov.

ElendilTheTall

well, I could attempt to write a limerick in Bulgarian, but since I neither speak the language or even understand the alphabet its written in, it would probably spark off a war

so I will stick to English, and ask you to suffer the mispronunciation of your urbi mater

rumtscho

9:12 AM

Agreed with at least the "stick to English" part. The mispronunciation may take a lot of getting used to.

I'd love it if you could speak Bulgarian, but I'm afraid I can't spare the time to teach you :)

Faheem Mitha

Hi @rumtscho.

rumtscho

hi @faheem

Faheem Mitha

So, language discussions today? Or limericks, perchance.

rumtscho

mom, my coworker just came back from a meeting with a client

ElendilTheTall

apparently so

Faheem Mitha

9:18 AM

@rumtscho huh?

@ElendilTheTall If that is ex tempore, that's pretty good.

@ElendilTheTall That's good too. The mice part shows some desperation, though.

@rumtscho Moins and loins do rhyme, at least approximately. That's how you say Moins, I think.

ElendilTheTall

@FaheemMitha it is ex tempore... I haven't been beavering away on limericks all night, believe it or not :D

and why is the mice part desperate? Rumi deals (indirectly) with mice with cancer

Faheem Mitha

@ElendilTheTall I thought you might have prepared them in advance, in case the subject of limericks came up.

Alternatively, you could have found a limerick about someone from Des Moines.

@ElendilTheTall I thought she does CS stuff.

ElendilTheTall

@FaheemMitha she does, but it's logging information about cancer in mice

(that's very generalised)

Faheem Mitha

@ElendilTheTall oh?

ElendilTheTall

@FaheemMitha yup

You besmirch my honour as a limericksmith if you think I'd shoehorn in an irrelevant element just to rhyme. My god, sir, I've a good mind to call you out!

rumtscho

9:31 AM

@FaheemMitha I'm at work currently

we have a large demonstration of our new application to the whole house 2 hours from now

I'm not one of the presenters

my coworker and the product manager (whom we see as a kind of internal client) will do the presentation and demonstration

and when I wrote, my coworker just came back from the dress rehearsal, quite wound up

seems that the product manager did not care to follow the script at all

but now I have to leave you, it's time for lunch and then for the last preparations

Faheem Mitha

@rumtscho have fun

ElendilTheTall

10:20 AM

hmmm

mien

i don't actually know much about mien...

She works a lot these days

There once was a woman from Ghent,
Who paid astronomical rent,
The only solution,
To avoid dissolution,
Was to work all the hours god sent.

Faheem Mitha

@ElendilTheTall call me out where?

ElendilTheTall

@FaheemMitha to 'call you out' means to challenge you to a duel

Faheem Mitha

@ElendilTheTall Oh, that. No thanks.

Well, we could have a duel where we slap each other with trouts. Or ripe bananas.

ElendilTheTall

trouts it is

though I believe the plural is trout

Faheem Mitha

10:35 AM

@ElendilTheTall I stand corrected.

Trout at dawn, then. 15 paces.

ElendilTheTall

@FaheemMitha very well

you should know that I have been the Fotheringchestershire County Trout Slapping Champion 7 years in a row

Cindy

10:57 AM

Hello. @ElendilTheTall I saw your callout. I would have been here sooner except for the fact that I overslept and woke up with a killer headache.

I see you're being quite creative today.

ElendilTheTall

@Cindy hey, I'm quite creative every day

Cindy

True.

ElendilTheTall

I am somewhat stumped with you

I don't know much about you

My Cindy file consists of: Location - Virginia, Status: looking for a job

Cindy

What would you like to know?

ElendilTheTall

anything that's easily rhymeable :D

Cindy

11:03 AM

I'm stumped with thinking of things that rhyme.

ElendilTheTall

ha!

where in Virginia do you live?

you have said before, I just don't remember

Cindy

Suffolk.

ElendilTheTall

do you pronounce that the British way? Suff-uk?

that throws up some ribald rhyming possibilities...

Cindy

I like all sorts of activities (even though I don't do as much as I used to). Cycling, bowling, tennis. Love the old, old pinball machines.

Suffolk pronunciation is the same here.

Oh, and how could I forget -- love cooking.

Play piano.

ElendilTheTall

11:56 AM

@Cindy ok... I'll work on it :)

ElendilTheTall

12:06 PM

There once was girl from Suffolk,
Who's main joy in life was to cook,
As well as play tennis,
(She's really a menace),
Employers should sure take a look.

@Cindy there! not my best work, but it will do!

Cindy

12:34 PM

Works for me. :)

ElendilTheTall

that concludes the limerick writing for today

Tomorrow: haiku

Cindy

You've done well. Haiku should prove interesting.

ElendilTheTall

1:25 PM

Haiku are lovely
Many complex images
Expressed succinctly

Cindy

1:37 PM

Yes, they are.

Cerberus

1:54 PM

@ElendilTheTall Bravo, bravo!

I could not but star your limericks.

I was asleep.

ElendilTheTall

@Cerberus until 16:00?

Cerberus

@ElendilTheTall No, 15:30.

Remember, Jo-Jo and I are bad sleepers.

(Not together.)

ElendilTheTall

it must be hard to get 3 heads to sleep at once

Cerberus

2:18 PM

Extremely.

They just don't want to go to sleep.

Are men with elven blood good at sleeping?

ElendilTheTall

we can sleep at will

having Isildurette and Anarion both helps and hinders proceedings however

Cerberus

Hehe.

I imagine it wakes you up, then makes you tired enough to fall asleep again whenever you have the opportunity.

ElendilTheTall

the other way around

you are knackered after a day running around after them, so you fall asleep in minutes

then they wake up at 3am

and 4am

and 5.30am

then for good at 6am

Cerberus

Yeah, that's terrible.

You know, I always wonder why people put their children to bed early.

If you go to bed around the same time, you can get as much sleep as they get?

ElendilTheTall

2:35 PM

have you ever dealt with an overtired child?

that question suggests otherwise

A) Children need 12 hours sleep. So if you leave the house at 8 for work, you can't very well put the kids to bed at 10.

B) As much as we love our little darlings, it is i) necessary to get them out of the damn way in order to clean the house, repair the damage they've caused etc and ii) nice to have some time to yourself without someone small but oddly heavy jumping up and down on your abdomen and/or puking on you

Apparently allowing one's children to watch Game of Thrones is frowned upon

@Apostle greetings

Cerberus

2:55 PM

@ElendilTheTall Haha, I have heard this last argument.

But I would rather get enough sleep than have more adult time.

If you have slept well, it becomes easier to deal with the children, doesn't it?

Besides, 12 hours should leave you enough time for both sleep and adult time?

But I suppose, if you put them to bed at 7, they won't sleep for 12 hours continuously?

ElendilTheTall

nope

not until they are about 2 or 3

and then only most nights

Cerberus

How about the first 8 hours of those 12?

ElendilTheTall

Anarion will go to bed at about 19:30, then wake up at 10, 3, 5, and finally 6

Cerberus

Annoying.

How old is he?

rumtscho

Random thing I wanted to share with you

I might be the last person in this chatroom who is aware of its existence, if this is so, then I'm sorry

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (Japanese: ジョジョの奇妙な冒険, Hepburn: JoJo no Kimyō na Bōken) is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Hirohiko Araki. It was originally serialized in Weekly Shōnen Jump from 1986 to 2004, before being transferred to the monthly seinen magazine Ultra Jump in 2005. The current story arc, JoJolion, started in 2011. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is currently Shueisha's second largest manga series with its chapters collected into 113 tankōbon volumes and counting (only Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kōen-mae Hashutsujo, with over 180, has more). A six-volume original video...

Cerberus

3:11 PM

Haha, very nice name.

derobert

4:43 PM

@rumtscho Yes, you're the last :-P

Well, or maybe 2nd-to-last, sounds like @Cerberus didn't know. Maybe it hasn't made it to Hades yet.

cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/56703/… <--- hah, a "can I eat this?" question where the answer is actually yes. Rare! ^W very well done. And, possibly, a culinary-uses question too...

rumtscho

@derobert I knew it that you'd be the first. But I don't think we have other manga fans here.

derobert

17 hrs @ 350, wonder if there is any moisture left in it.

rumtscho

@derobert indeed, "culinary uses" will permit asking it, under the "not generally considered edible" clause

derobert

Yep

If it isn't actually burnt to a crisp, I bet it actually has some nice Maillard flavors. Might be useful for something, though 20lbs (now probably 10) is a lot.

rumtscho

We cannot know how people use words. Maybe she is saying "roast" but means "chunk of collagen rich meat", possibly held in a closed pan

I'd still like to close it as a duplicate of something

we must have it somewhere that it is safe if it's held for a long time both below and above the danger zone

Jolenealaska

5:45 PM

How to Pronounce Des Moines

►

Moin rhymes with loin, but the S is silent.

Faheem Mitha

6:46 PM

@rumtscho Not the last.

@derobert Not so, but far otherwise.

Definitely not a Manga fan. Don't know anything about it. Also don't know anything much about religion, sports, cookery, or needlepoint.

Though I did learn a little bit about Catholic saints recently. Curious concept.

derobert

@FaheemMitha If you add tactics to your list, maybe you can apply to be a Major-General?

@Jolenealaska that's it, from now on, I'm calling it d-eh-z m-oh-in-ez. That'll teach 'em.

Faheem Mitha

@derobert I'm guessing that is a Gilbert and Sullivan reference, and regardless, no thanks.

I think silent letters should be illegal. And if people try pronouncing it that way, they should be whipped.

Let's hear it for phonetic English!

@derobert I.e. I'm the very model of a Modern Major-General. etc. etc.

If you are not referring to that, then I have to confess myself stumped.

derobert

@FaheemMitha yep, that's what I'm referring to. I decided against going for some obscure anime reference this time :-/

Faheem Mitha

@derobert I admire your self-restraint.

I would not have had you pegged for a G-S fan though.

Did your grandparents listen to it, or something?

Or maybe they did the Mikado at school?

Jolenealaska

@derobert When I was running the lodge in the boonies of Alaska, this dude came off the highway in the middle of the day. I asked where he was from. He said, "Iowa. d-eh-z m-oh-in-ez."

derobert

6:53 PM

Of course, the Animaniacs parody of Modern Major-General was tempting... but it didn't fit.

Jolenealaska

Oh Really?

Faheem Mitha

They should do a porn version of the Mikado. Now, that would be something.

Jolenealaska

Grew up in d-eh-z m-oh-in-ez?

Faheem Mitha

I mean, they wouldn't even have to change the names.

derobert

@FaheemMitha Not sure I can really be said to be a fan. I've only heard excerpts from The Pirates of Penzance (though I'd like to see it someday...)

Faheem Mitha

6:54 PM

Yum yum, for example.

@derobert ok

derobert

Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and catch a recording on PBS.

Faheem Mitha

Wouldn't you get carbon poisoning eating something that was in an oven all night?

Jolenealaska

@derobert do you like musicals?

derobert

@Jolenealaska yes

Faheem Mitha

The biologist Peter Medawar, in his biography entitled "Memoirs of a Thinking Radish", had a section entitled "The Peculiar Awfulness of Gilbert and Sullivan".

@Jolenealaska do you like "Annie Get Your Gun"?

Jolenealaska

6:56 PM

@derobert Oh good!

Faheem Mitha

Not sure why he gave them so much importance, but there you go.

derobert

@FaheemMitha I'm having a hard time believing you could actually eat enough roast charcoal to be harmful...

Faheem Mitha

@derobert How about if someone force-fed it to you?

derobert

Well, then probably. Though they should probably go for a lower-dose poison. No idea what the LD50 of burnt roast is. Or if its only lethal by bulk.

Jolenealaska

@FaheemMitha I haven't actually seen the whole thing, but I would probably like it. I do know an awesome story about a theatrical production

Faheem Mitha

7:00 PM

@Jolenealaska oh.

Jolenealaska

Ethel Merman was playing Annie.

During one of the numbers, she is singing while shooting the gun in the air.

Every time she pulled the trigger, the gun would bang and a bird would fall.

One day she pulled the trigger, there was no bang, but the bird fell anyway.

With perfect timing, she turned to the audience and said, "Whaddya know? Heart attack."

Brought the house down.

ElendilTheTall

7:18 PM

@Jolenealaska hello you

Faheem Mitha

7:29 PM

@Jolenealaska good story.

The film is quite watchable, though it's not really my cup of tea.

I like the "You can't get a man with a gun" one.

I wonder what the real Annie Oakley would have thought of it.

Jolenealaska

Hi @ElendilTheTall!

@FaheemMitha Yes, it's a good one. She was a performer at heart, so my guess is that she would approve.

I'm running late as per usual. I'm supposed to be at my monthly infusion right now.

I'm not there, I'm here.

ElendilTheTall

7:47 PM

@Jolenealaska naughty

Jolenealaska

Yes

I'm trying to get moving.

I'm as far as showered and half dressed.

ElendilTheTall

that'll do pig ;)

Jolenealaska

the hardest thing is socks. They're done. It's all downhill from here.

Where did the line just come up?

Faheem Mitha

Infusion?

Jolenealaska

that'll do Pig.

AHA!

The infamous ratty sweatpants!

Apr 5 at 7:18, by Jolenealaska

That'll do Pig.

Shoes, socks and pants. I'm on a roll now!

ElendilTheTall

7:54 PM

congratulations. you are now at the level of my three year old ;)

Jolenealaska

My teeth are brushed and my legs are shaved! (from 2 days ago) Can your three year old say that?!

ElendilTheTall

she can say the former, and she doesn't need the latter

Jolenealaska

I should hope not.

OK, I am ready!

CYA tonight.

ElendilTheTall

ok hon, take care

Captain Giraffe

10:03 PM

Have a good afternoon Jolene.

Cerberus

11:06 PM

@derobert Trends only reach down here once they have died...

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