Huzzah.... finally getting ubuntu in shape for use

morning

@W5VO particular challanges?

@jippie I dislike the "close button on the left" and had to revert to Gnome for it, as well as the 'alt-tab' functionality. Some random packages that weren't installed by default... and the apache2 package starts the apache server after successful installation.

And building Kicad from source still sucks

I use Kubuntu because it feels a bit more like Windows. For my work I have to switch between Linux and Windows and I like the feel to be similar.

@W5VO building from sources always sucks on a vanilla install

@jippie it actually wasn't difficult or a long chain of dependency resolution, just long

@W5VO Don't forget to install the ubuntu-restricted-addons and ubuntu-restricted-extras

@W5VO So you built Kicad from sources huh? Why not install from repositories?

@jippie Because that's the way Kicad likes to do things

?

I installed it from repositories

Let me check what version I have

if you want a version that isn't a year out of date, you have to build it from source (at least on windows)

I assumed the same was necessary on Linux

I have build 2013-jul07-stable

@jippie literally a year out of date

@W5VO If even you manage to compile from sources, maybe I have to try that too and see what the recent Kicad powered by CERN from @abdullahkahraman is all about.

@W5VO so how long can it take before an update is released? :p

@jippie They have invested a lot for you to be able to build from sources in a reasonable manner...

I suspect that since they are breaking some of the internal workings it will probably be a while

e.g. the footprint library management has changed formats

and making sure projects can be translated...

but the new modes are pretty good

@W5VO How long did the buidl process take? Approx?

For windows, you download the entire build environment from kicad, and then it pulls the latest (stable?) source, and then compiles

30min to an hour? I didn't time it

it's a big package

but I could have downloaded it a few times by the time it finished

I'm just annoyed that there wasn't a package ready to download, and so now I'm griping

I'd be building for Linux, I only use Windows for work.

for "real Work" (TM)

They had a script that you could download that worked pretty well

I can't remember if the problem I had was just actually downloading the script, or if there was some development packages that I needed (may have been installing 2 things at the same time).

@W5VO I don't mind too much for building from sources, as long as it comes with a reasonable instruction (esp. dependencies on dev packages)

I actually think the problem I had was that I didn't actually download the script, just the webpage hosting the script (because they had one of those clever "here's your file nicely rendered" pages as the actual file name)

Other than Google searches, I have not found yet an easy and smart way to identify figure out which -dev packages a program needs.

@jippie pray that the error thrown matches the package name

@W5VO Yeah I love those pages too, and only when you look into the 'downloaded' program, you find html

@W5VO most of the time it doesn't

@jippie I thought you had to sign up to download files off of github (until that didn't work) because I couldn't find any download link

@W5VO I never signed up for github.

Just a git clone http://...........

@jippie Apparently it's popular to use it to host documents as well as code, but it is not designed to play nice with PDFs

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at any rate, it's time for bed. Later

This seems viable code.launchpad.net/~js-reynaud/+archive/ubuntu/ppa-kicad

@W5VO night

I should get to work

morning

hmm first time I actually noticed my UPS kicking in.

it made my pc survice three or four short mains interruptions :o)

Remember when to establish serial comms you'd grab a cable, 25-to-9's, 9-to-25's, and null modems (often to null out the null modem in your 9 to 25's!), and just stack things until it worked? Those were the days!