The DMZ

Rory Alsop

9:00 PM

No. Lemme try and get some pics

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop

What is M.2? PCIe SSDs Explained. ft. ADATA SP900 M.2

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^I think this shows it

@DavidFreitag is that what you were thinking about?

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune That guy is wrong, the new double-keyed cards can fit in both sata and pci M.2 slots

@RоryMcCune And, yes

Rоry McCune

yeah but the general principle of fitting it..

Rory Alsop

So am I to use the Key M space?

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop Yes

Rory Alsop

9:06 PM

If so, that now makes sense. It was entirely covered by the graphics

Thank you for being patient

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop The good thing about the GPU is you don't even need to install it to get running.

And, once you do install it, it's a simple matter of switching slots.

Rory Alsop

I thought you were meaning either the key E thing or that short pcie slot

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop No problem. I'd hate to have you buy 1700£ worth of parts and be stuck pushing the brown stuff up a hill with a pointy stick

@RoryAlsop The short pcie is a x4 connector, it is effectively useless, cover it. The Key E slot is for a laptop-style wireless card, you probably don't need it.

Lucas Kauffman

holy shit

1700 in parts o.O

David Freitag

@LucasKauffman He said 3000£ was ok, I told him that I could build one for half that :P

32GB of ram, 980 Ti, 3.5GHz hex core i7

Lucas Kauffman

9:13 PM

@DavidFreitag 3.5. they sell that

what is Rory going to run on that?

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag s'a similar spec to my PC with a nicer Graphics card.. and I think a slightly faster CPU

David Freitag

@LucasKauffman three 4k monitors and ED presumably

Rоry McCune

I got the i7-5820K

David Freitag

@LucasKauffman newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117403

Rоry McCune

@LucasKauffman mine runs VMs very nicely

Lucas Kauffman

9:15 PM

@RоryMcCune 10 at a time :P?

Rоry McCune

I can have a couple of VMs running at the same time as doing other stuff and not really notice

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune Yours and the one @Rory got are socket compatible...

Lucas Kauffman

they can have CPU babies :O?

Rоry McCune

@LucasKauffman well remember there's browsers and stuff too

Lucas Kauffman

32 gb is for chrome

David Freitag

9:16 PM

@RоryMcCune how much ram did you get since you use vms?

Also, you aren't using the stock cpu cooler are you...

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag initially when I got it 16, but I've gone up to 32 as it's not that pricey an upgrade :)

@DavidFreitag dunno guv, the base PC was a present from my missus, so it'll be whatever PC Specialist put on it... doubt it'll be the stock one tho'

they do quite a nice line in custom PCs

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune I really fought with whether or not to give @RoryAlsop 64GB. Instead I chose 32GB in 4 sticks upgradeable to 64 if the heat sync will let them fit

Rоry McCune

decent case selection, reliable builds

@DavidFreitag I'd say 32GB should be enough for most tasks these days..

David Freitag

Rоry McCune

maybe video editing could use more

David Freitag

9:19 PM

@RоryMcCune Does it look like that nonsense ^^ ?

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag been a while since I've had the case off, but I don't think so..

Lucas Kauffman

I swear by Noctua

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune Tsk! you should regularly de-dust it!

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag for me it'd be more like de-cat hair it

the top fan is nice and warm for cats to sit on

Rory Alsop

The heat sink will allow another 4 of these awesome red chrome memory sticks, @David

If I need

David Freitag

9:20 PM

@RоryMcCune Cat hair has a significant dielectric characteristic. Over time it can actually effect your computer. You should probably get a vacuum :D

@RoryAlsop Perfect, that's exactly what I planned.

Rory Alsop

Awesome choice of cooler by the way. Love the fact it had a 12" and 14" fan built in

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop That's the best cooler on the market. It will outstrip anything but super custom liquid jobs.

You should be able to OC the crap out of it and not notice any thermal issues.

Rory Alsop

Hoping I don't need to OC... My plan is to see how slow and quiet I can set the fans

As I'll probably have this in the room next to my bedroom

David Freitag

@LucasKauffman This is teh cooler that I selected for @RoryAlsop newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024

@RoryAlsop Which I figured, but it's nice to have the option if you so decide.

Rory Alsop

My existing one is quiet but I can still hear it at night

David Freitag

9:24 PM

@RoryAlsop I turn mine off at night, that's just a waste of power.

Lucas Kauffman

@DavidFreitag sweet

David Freitag

Also, pretty much every OS needs to be rebooted regularly to avoid issues.

Lucas Kauffman

@DavidFreitag except z/OS

David Freitag

@LucasKauffman Linketh me mine brethren.

Rory Alsop

I actually do turn it off at night now.

Lucas Kauffman

9:25 PM

Z/OS

z/OS is a 64-bit operating system for mainframe computers, produced by IBM. It derives from and is the successor to OS/390, which in turn followed a string of MVS versions. Like OS/390, z/OS combines a number of formerly separate, related products, some of which are still optional. z/OS offers the attributes of modern operating systems but also retains much of the functionality originating in the 1960s and each subsequent decade that is still found in daily use (backward compatibility is one of z/OS's central design philosophies). z/OS was first introduced in October 2000. The newest version is...

Rory Alsop

Z/OS rocks

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop you can actually set one up yourself with Hercules, I have the image lying around somewhere

Rory Alsop

Current z/os will still run stuff written in 1970

I get to see ones at work

David Freitag

> IBM has started to allow Java code running on z/OS to execute above the 2 GB bar, again for performance reasons.

LOL

Rory Alsop

To be fair I don't get to play on them

Lucas Kauffman

9:26 PM

@DavidFreitag it even runs python and SAP

David Freitag

@LucasKauffman Interesting.

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop oh btw, did David explain with your new computer you dont need to pay for cycles you use :P

David Freitag

I have often toyed with the idea of making a single board beowulf cluster

Lucas Kauffman

they brought a new model to market which also supports docker

Rory Alsop

Lol @LucasKauffman

Lucas Kauffman

9:27 PM

techtimes.com/articles/77096/20150817/…

David Freitag

@LucasKauffman Speaking of docker, did you see the docker crates kickstarter was successful?

@LucasKauffman I want that case.

Lucas Kauffman

@DavidFreitag I want an IBM Emperor

but I dont have the money, not even if they give one for free and I just need to pay for the electricity :(

David Freitag

Yeah I can barely afford anything. I think the CEO where I work has a sixth sense about people wanting a raise, she hasn't been at work all week :/

Simon

@RоryMcCune aaaawwww yuuuuh

Lucas Kauffman

IBM LinuxONE™: Linux Without Limits

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Rory Alsop

9:32 PM

Yeah, that looks like two of the ones we have

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop you got one of the new ones :O?

Rory Alsop

I don't think it's that one, but the front of them looks very like that. All angles and skits and lights

Think they took a leaf from sgi/Cray

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop have you had them longer than a month :P?

David Freitag

@LucasKauffman Yeah that thing definitely has some sweet FPGA porn in there.

Lucas Kauffman

@DavidFreitag these things are the bomb, very pricey, but the bomb

David Freitag

9:42 PM

@LucasKauffman Xilinx is working directly with Intel to produce server CPUs that have on-die FPGA capabilities.

Lucas Kauffman

@DavidFreitag but do they run COBOL?

David Freitag

@LucasKauffman Depends on the software

The following design film.... HNNNG so much pron

Lucas Kauffman

even from a security perspective, z/OS and RACF are really really cool

one of few systems which managed to implement clark wilson and brewer nasher properly

David Freitag

Looks like these z series mainframes are all about optimization and offloading

And they are using TONS of FOSS software, which is.... surprising.

Lucas Kauffman

@DavidFreitag FOSS?

David Freitag

9:50 PM

@LucasKauffman Free and Open Source Software.

Woohoo tautology

Lucas Kauffman

why is it a tautology?

David Freitag

@LucasKauffman free and open source software software

ATM machine

@LucasKauffman Not the name, what I said

schroeder

10:30 PM

@RоryMcCune quite possibly - and I'm also the 2nd Mensan

Rory Alsop

10:47 PM

@schroeder 2nd ?

schroeder

@RoryAlsop 3rd? I'm assuming

Nic Barker

11:06 PM

@LucasKauffman that's really interesting, I wasn't aware of Brewer and Nash or Clark-Wilson before.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidFreitag heh I run stock heatsinks mostly.

David Freitag

@JourneymanGeek Stock heat sinks are awful, you should probably stop. Especially when you consider a decent cooler is like $10 that is WAAAAY better than a stock one.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidFreitag: Was going to go with a hyper212 or liquid cooling. I've not had serious issues with it but planned incremental upgrade will almost certainly not have a stock cooler

I don't OC so,,,

David Freitag

@JourneymanGeek Liquid cooling is not as efficient as you would think. Unless you spend a serious amount of time and money on a custom job, you're better off with a nice noctua.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidFreitag Oh, I wanted it cause it would be possible for me to undo the radiator and blow it out without mucking around near the processor

Place I live in is fairly dusty

David Freitag

11:18 PM

@JourneymanGeek Well, that helps, but still. The stock coolers do not have nearly enough thermal mass to keep a rig running for a decent amount of time. That, and the clips on them must have been designed by a chimpanzee that had a full-frontal lobotomy.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidFreitag: I was running er... 7-12 every day

Now, not so much, desktop goes to sleep while I'm at work ;p

David Freitag

@JourneymanGeek You're doing it wrong. The proper procedure for dust removal in a PC is vacuum.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidFreitag: er. Dosen't quite work for cleaning out heatsinks for me

I use a gas duster

Rory Alsop

@schroeder I meant 2nd on what scale?

David Freitag

@JourneymanGeek They make special small handheld vacuums specifically for this purpose.