night

morning

:D

I really have to be more careful with my scope probes. @Asmyldof you showed the other day you have some cables hanging from the wall, what could I use to hook them on that nicely fits probes without damaging them?

@jippie Hang them from the coaxial in a rack the width of double the wire

Pomona makes them ready made in 3 sizes, but you can make them yourself

any prefered material? Maybe easiest for me is just sawing couple sleeves in a wooden ... what's the word.. lat

With wood you'll want to sand and paint as well, chips and splinters can damage cables

I could drop by the Brigatti guys, but I find them kinda expensive

@Asmyldof Nice little job for my dad ;o)

nl.farnell.com/pomona/2708/test-lead-holder/dp/8471606

@Asmyldof no prices on their website

nl.farnell.com/pomona/4408/holder-test-lead-10-slot/dp/4136111

ah

nl.mouser.com/Search/…

That's the three I use

which one would you use for scope probes? You know the Rigol ones? RP2200

As you can see in the picture I use black for the rigol probes, orange for normal test leads, and in another place on the wall I use blue and black for mains cables and such

(that isn't a wall, by the way)

thnx

np

I just realized the ARM microcontroller is a state machine ... (who would've thought). If you don't enable peripheral clock and still write to them, the thing locks up. :o)

@jippie mine are from coat hanger wire...

@PlasmaHH I don't have any coat hangers

@PlasmaHH how would you bend and fold that into a cable managment system?

@jippie starting with a straight piece i bend it sharply in the middle. That piece i bend into a kind of flat s shape, so that one side tightly fits over the end of a shelf, and i can hang something on the other side of the s. They are then screwed to the shelf

On the glass shelf the construction is different and harder to explain

Maybe i can take a pic when at home

New pub in Eindhoven since about .. I guess little under a year or so? @Kortuk vanmolleindhoven.nl/menukaart

@PlasmaHH maybe you should ;o)

hang on october 2013, I should get out more often ..

I'm under the impression that the Arduino(.SE) traffic is coming (back) to EE.SE lately

pffrt

Read only "because moronic holiday"

-10% Stack Respect

@Asmyldof too early to go to bed ...

I thought this was about your normal bedtime?

no ...

at least 30 minutes to go

and at least 60 minutes before I actually get near my bed

@Asmyldof I am king of procrastination, even when it comes to getting to bed.

I only procrastinate with business opportunities these days.

shall I teach you?

nope

Hello everyone

very short question about filters

is this statement correct: For low pass filters (Rc, LC,...) you always have the capacitor going to the ground not the resistor or inductance.

If you'd turn in the other way around you'd have a high pass filter

@Asmyldof, @jippie ^ :)

@trilolil A capacitor is good at "conducting" high frequencies. So if you connect the capacitor to ground, you effectively short high frequencies to ground.

passive, yes

thanks :)

@Asmyldof, this statement is incorrect for active filters?

I'm off to bed

night

night

depends on the active filter

depends on the architecture of the active filter

as I said ... night

sleep cakefully

why would u rather use an LC filter in stead of an RC filter?

as low pass filters

they both have a cap going to the ground, so both of them do the same I think

@Asmyldof

@trilolil a LC filter will get you a steeper rolloff as you have a second filtering element working there.

@trilolil Then you are saying that an inductor is exactly the same as a resistor?

Then why do we even have them?

marketing

Klork?

One of the few times I've seen Ferrell nearly crack up himself

Yay Gold Badge

zZz

@PlasmaHH Think you'll need a free refill for the fluxpen, or is it wasted effort? ;-)

@Asmyldof does the flux have a "best before" date? ^^

If you ask Henkel it's Nov 2016. (prod Nov 2015), but if you ask me, it's more 2018'ish

Or, better put, it's a week before you notice it doesn't work too well anymore

so that is the more likely date to need a refill.. I think I never emptied one, only lost it in the chaos that is my home office

If I add a refil, you have a reason to organise yourself

Because I'll charge you double for the first refill ordered before Okt 2017

:-P

hehe, I think the new house will be also a good reason to reorganize... twice the space and so...

now that I confirmed the basic principlpes of by cable finder working I need to create some useful antenna for it.... maybe some cardboard parabolic dish with some aluminum tape and that one tuned? or something entirely different....

You can try parabolic, but cardboard may not be easy

Nor wil rinkling in the tape help you much

+w

@PlasmaHH Freshly filled BonKote 102, with refill in syringe, with extra silicone hard gasket to prevent leaking in transport (may take a bit of extra effort getting it open to refill). Best to keep the refill dark, but haven't found any black manual syringes yet.

Gently squeeze a few times until the brush gets moist, then it's ready to use

Wrote the X33-12i on the back, but it doesn't hold well, so wrapped it in masking tape

Might have to make some labels

@Asmyldof yay, that looks like the professional flux pen kit! very nice... I have to take care of some coughing kid, will be back tomorrow

Sleep well, at some point