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6:54 AM
morning
 
 
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11:14 AM
Chicken Fajitas!
 
 
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12:51 PM
great, I ripped of a 0402 part :/
 
why did you do that?
 
1:23 PM
@PlasmaHH put it back on
 
1:46 PM
@Asmyldof one size beyond my soldering skills
 
anyone familiar with git?
git blame
^f776de1 (Jippie 2016-02-13 14:12:10 +0100  20) void initializeUart( void ) {
d4346ed1 (Jippie 2016-02-13 14:54:52 +0100  21)     /*
what is the ^ in the first line
 
looks like a padding character because the two sha1 fragments are different length
 
seems like all older lines have the ^
 
2:11 PM
so...continuing my AT89LP51ED2 bootloader saga -- I have the chip into bootloader mode now, and am able to send commands to the bootloader, however it rudely interrupts me in the middle of them with a checksum error
 
2:25 PM
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Q: How do nonlinear speedometers work?

sergiolSome cars, now have nonlinear speedometers. How can they achieve to get different spacing between some speed ranges?

 
3:15 PM
@PlasmaHH tssss
Or, even more to the point, from our friends:
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Q: What's the meaning of the caret character on the very beginning of sha1 of commit in the git-blame

Chang Yu-hengIn git-blame, we usually see lines in a file like below: f9a0a430 (Owen Lin 2011-08-17 22:07:43 +0800 1) The first column is the sha1 which represents the commit of last modified. But sometimes it looks like this: ^f9a0a43 (Owen Lin 2011-08-17 22:07:43 +0800 1) What is t...

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Q: Why would a line's SHA in a git blame view have a leading caret (^)?

briandkI'm not sure if this behavior is bizarre, but here's what's happening: it seems if I run git blame on a file, any lines in that file that are from the initial commit have a SHA with a leading caret (^), like this ^bb65026 (Brian Danielak 2012-10-27 19:11:54 -0700 1) hello, world! bbcd4a96 (Bria...

@Zaid Those have been around for ages. Depends on the mechanism they use to translate rotation into position
These days it's just computer controlled, can have any function that you want. Quadratic, logarithmic (who cares about the details between 0 and 100)
 
 
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4:37 PM
So it is called a carrot
thnx for the links @Asmyldof
 
yes, thx @Asmyldof -- did not know that!
 
5:37 PM
@Asmyldof feel free to come over and do it for me, I could offer some free beer ^^
 
@PlasmaHH Yes, but I already have beer here
 
@Asmyldof but certainly not schlappeseppel ;)
 
@jippie C'est la caret, pour fabrique le accent circumflex.
@PlasmaHH No, but, it's like 4m away
 
I thought √ was the carrot
 
Low hanging can, hm?
Maybe I can scratch the pads a bit and fit a slightly bigger part...
 
6:01 PM
@PlasmaHH Danger, will robinson
 
6:16 PM
@Asmyldof better than nothing...
 
@PlasmaHH or... put back the original
Or better yet, don't take it off
 
I never took it off, it got ripped off when the antenna cable got loose and bumped into it... And putting the original back is, as said, beyond my skills
 
Lies are not going to help you
:( I feel snacky and snuggly, and I have access to neither
 
@Asmyldof neither are you ;) its really tasty beer ^^
 
blaaaah
you're mean
You just got docked 50%
 
6:24 PM
Lulz
It might work when I build a soldering robot... ^^
 
frump
Motivate me, interwebs!
 
CAT videos?
Thank you autocorrect...
 
Be very careful, mister, I will kill you in your sleep
 
So you have a preferred timeframe for nuking the marble?
 
No, I first independently target people suggesting cat videos
 
6:36 PM
But they are CAT IV videos!
Moron with heating elements ahead
 
6:53 PM
What is "Processor Land Assignments"? And "Land out diagram"? Is it like the pinout of the device?
What makes me doubt is the amazing number of "VCC" and "VSS". OTOH the device is rated for 125A max.
 
Hm, I might be able to tell my wife how to handle a soldering iron and she could do it...
@jippie one pad per 100mA?
 
7:11 PM
@PlasmaHH ~550mA per pin pad if I am reading that document correctly.
 
7:44 PM
A 500mA limit per pad isn't very weird
specially not with such low voltage
Look at me, doing wifey shit, because... well, I haven't kidnapped one yet
 
8:20 PM
order one in an online store?
 
8:33 PM
Nah. They're not worthy
 
8:46 PM
Hello everyone. I apologize for a brief question here rather than on the site, but I think most of what I would have to write in a full question is irrelevant to the actual subject. Has anyone experienced oscillation in a half-H-bridge for long on-durations? I'm using UCC27201 driver. The circuit works fine for shorter pulses but when they become >1ms or so there is wild oscillation in the latter part of the pulse. I guess this is an edge case, but it has me wondering what to look for.
 
assuming the answer would be "yes", what now?
 
@PlasmaHH I really would like some suggestions as to what may cause this in general. To spontaneously go from stable operation to oscillation in the middle of a pulse seems strange to me.
I should say that the bootstrap capacitor is more than big enough for that not to be the problem, unless gate leakage is much more than specified. But even if it is, the high-side V_GS looks fine.
 
resonance sometimes needs a while to build up
 
@PlasmaHH in this case the onset is very rapid and depending on the MOSFETs used it can appear as short-lived, sharp dropouts instead of actual oscillation. Perhaps the driver is broken. I will try another and see if the problem goes away.
 
@OleksandrR. Does that driver drive all N-type mosfets?
Does it have a bootstrap?
Bootstrap needs pulses
Feed the bootstrap with a separate supply or don't have slow signals
 
8:58 PM
no 1 cause for circuits malfunctioning on this site: missing decoupling
 
@Asmyldof yes, all done correctly. Bootstrap is 2×47nF and gate capacitance is 780pF. V_GS does not fall during the long pulse.
 
if everything is done correctly, then it works correctly ;)
 
You have a supply 4V above VCC for the bootstrap? Becuase that's the only correctly there is for long pulses
Vgs doesn't or Vg doesn't?
 
@Asmyldof V_GS. V_S and V_G fall together a bit because of limited bulk capacitance depending on the load.
 
If Vs oscillates and Vgs is constant, Vg is oscillating
Can't have it both ways
 
9:03 PM
@Asmyldof okay, I see what you mean. I had misunderstood your question. During the oscillation I haven't closely examined V_GS because V_S is wildly varying. Before the oscillations start, there is no significant change in V_GS.
 
@OleksandrR. Because before oscillation there is no problem
"I can't possibly be dying of liver failure, I only had my liver enzymes testes last century"
I promise you, it's the bootstrap
 
pretty correct on a certain new years mornig ;)
 
You cannot bootstrap a voltage with insufficient pulses. It needs edges to charge, that's how it works
So your Vg drops, because the caps are discharging, and then it oscillates because you create a stable feedback loop
 
@Asmyldof I know. It charges and stays charged. Immediately before the oscillation begins there has been no significant change in V_GS since the beginning of the on-time.
 
Supply your bootstrap with 4AA batteries from V+ and see what happens
 
9:08 PM
btw. thank you for your help fixing that 0402, the dongle is working fine again
 
@Asmyldof what struck me was the number of presumed Vcc pads: 226 an an equal number Vss. That is 450 pads just for power supply? Do these CPU's indeed have so many pins pads? Not counting actual signals ...
 
What is not significant? This is all I can tell you without scope pictures going on only "Everything is set up properly"
 
@Asmyldof worth a try. Thanks.
 
If that doesn't work we need more detailed picture based information
@jippie They do, usually.
 
Does it show I never built my own PC?
 
9:15 PM
@jippie guess why the socket LGA1366 is named that way
 
@Asmyldof yes, I appreciate that. I asked in here just in case someone had an idea what may cause this in an otherwise properly working circuit. Of course if I ask on the site then I will provide complete information. Actually I now wonder if C_oss increase with falling V_DS (due to bulk capacitance discharge) is causing a new resonance to appear. I will check this.
 
@PlasmaHH they designed 1365 other LGA sockets?
 
@jippie try again
 
actually LGA775
 
no, I mean LGA1366
775 is the predecessor
 
9:18 PM
not in the datasheet I refered to
you are confusing me :-p
 
hint: it is the number of pins
 
oh come on, just make one big pin. More power, like Tim the toolman Taylor used to say.
 
ah, there is also an LGA2011 ...
 
insane
 
they seem to need quite a bit of power
 
9:25 PM
 
@PlasmaHH as it happens I'm not really concerned with long pulses anyway. This is really just a curiosity for me, so I could ignore it and there would be no problem in the application. Only pulse widths of less than 100ns are interesting in reality.
 
I was amazed by the 125A and the low voltage (something ranging from 0.5 ~ 1.5V)
 
@OleksandrR. The same behaviour might be lurking as some edge case near the values you want to actually use that thing with... some unlucky combination of just-in-spec components and it goes whooo
 
@jippie You don't want to make a single large pin, for many reasons
 
I would love to see the wire bonding process of these beasts...
 
9:31 PM
@PlasmaHH yes, you're right. And, who knows, maybe I will be interested in longer pulses in the future. (I am a physicist, not EE. This is not to drive a motor or something but to perturb a plasma.)
 
uhhh. it tingles...
 
@PlasmaHH then I consider my mission a success. :)
 
getting slightly more ontopic here...
anyone knows a directional antenna design for 35mhz that is small?
 
10:04 PM
@PlasmaHH tuned double coil?
@PlasmaHH LGA's may disappoint you on a bonding perspective
 
10:47 PM
@Asmyldof I know them as big many meter long beasts...
 
11:03 PM
not necessarily
 
building and testing antennas isn't really nice without something like a spectrum analyzer :/
 
11:18 PM
@Asmyldof why is that? Is it like a flip die?
 
Most, if not all
 
11:40 PM
@PlasmaHH you have something that makes your frequency of interest and a scope with enough bandwidth. You have loads more than most people when tuning their first 27MHz/35MHz/40MHz antenna
 
@Asmyldof its just so much nicer, you just easier see where its best performance is and know which direction to go
 
Saves you 5minutes of trying for loads of money
 
only if you know what you do ^^
 
L || C = tuning, calculate what you think your L is, calculate the C you need, look at the signal, add a C of 10% and see it go up or down. Down = too much C, up = too little
 

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