@AJHenderson nice

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This is why we can't have nice things...

@AndyML viagra

Out in the dark last night..

I could not believe my eyes when taking a peek at the very first photo in the rear display. The amount of light pollution!!!

I thought I was in a place with very little of it :P

There is a tiny little village 16 miles away that is showing in the middle. The size of the small town is such that when driving a car through it you have to pay attention if you want to see it.

And thos two other light pollution bubbles, I don't even know what those are. There should be nothing there.

@EsaPaulasto wow, that is one Milky Way

Here is my best shot recently

@ElendilTheTall Very nice! Harmony and tranquility.

@EsaPaulasto thank you

It is one of the best I have taken in a while

Let's see, I have a question for you, about composition

@ElendilT - Subject in the center or slightly off-center? Just a matter of taste, and the photographer's choice?

Two pics uploading...

@EsaPaulasto I wanted to A) give the lighthouse some space to 'look into' and B) capture the sky

I went by the book and placed the kid in dead center of the photo.

That made her look like dead unmoving object.

The original framing had her slightly off-center, and there she appears dynamic and mid-motion and happy.

Or what?

I prefer the off centre one

@ElendilTheTall Definitely right, the lighthouse needs space :)

@ElendilTheTall Aye, thanks, so do I :)

I think I might have tried portrait orientation to enhance the verticality of the jump

given her some space to jump into

...

Can only do a crop from the landscape orientation.. I was in a hurry inside my head (not in any real hurry, that is) and could not make my hands rotate the camera into portrait orientation.

@ElendilTheTall Thanks for the suggestion, it doesn't look bad.

auh, too much :D

I'm not entirely sure the pose works in any case

it looks almost like she's sitting

I hope you withheld her fee! ;)

:D

alternative composition to the lighthouse shot

@ElendilTheTall It works nicely. The subject of the photo changed. The lighthouse is the main thing now.

Here's one of the best shots of mine lately:

All of those got eaten ;)

What's a young male chicken called in English? Here we call it a "broiler" and that's broiler fillet steaks on the grill.

@ElendilTheTall After all, I'm going with the landscape orientation with slightly off-center kid. The point out there, where the photo was taken, is the space around it all. There is air. There is space. There is wind and countryside. The photo is not only about the kid jumping, it is the environment as well.

@EsaPaulasto we don't tend to differentiate

@EsaPaulasto hmmm

I'm not sure that is clear as is. The subject of the shot is clearly the kid. The rest just seems like the background. If you're trying to convey a sense of space, I would have taken the shot from much further back.

I would have composed the shot so the trampoline as a whole was off center

perhaps on the left third line

and then given the other 2 thirds to the landscape

This is obviously a very quick mock up, but I'd do something like this I think

Then you have a big sky to enhance the sense of space, and the well off-centre main subject adds dynamism

But that's just my 2c

@ElendilTheTall Ahh, looks great, really, with an eye able to imagine..

@EsaPaulasto looks better with a bit more headspace

The story goes like this, I see my 10 year old daughter being happy after I set up the trampoline, and I run indoors to get the camera, shoot a few quickly, never really stopping to think.

well, you have a whole summer to recompose :)

There has been times, when I "shoot a few quickly" and then stop, step back, think .... and then continue shooting with some thought given to it.

Did not happen that day though.

I hate it when I get back home and only then see the shot I should have taken

@ElendilTheTall Yes, you are perfectly correct there, thank you :)

@EsaPaulasto it would be nice with some golden hour light, but you might struggle to get the shutter speed

how does your camera handle high ISO?

I think I have room for it, there's trouble with ISO1600 when light is sparse, but in daytime the camera can do ISO3200 without too much trouble.

I think that if I had a better denoising algorithm to use... but the one built in Sony's Image Data Converter software is just bad :P

You could also wait until you have some dramatic clouds and use a flash to light the foreground

^^ Would need two flashes the minimum

I don't really like to use a flash, if I don't have to.

Just make sure they're not storm clouds - I wouldn't want to explain to my wife why my kid was struck by lightning while on my watch ;)

@EsaPaulasto me either, but only because I have shitty one that I don't have much control over

Blue sky with some clouds should be best for the atmosphere I want to convey, so I'll skip the dramatic clouds ;)

well, if you want to be pedestrian about it ;)

you might also try a lower angle as well

Here's the way I like to use a flash.

bounced?

or is that illuminating the back wall?

Always whenever there's a chance.

oh, of course

bounced from the right side, and natural light from the left.

I have one of these for when bouncing is not possible

wexphotographic.com/buy-lastolite-micro-apollo-60-mkii/p1524002

doesn't quite give the same softness, but much better than bare

and once again I notice a photo that I've "made" while I still did not quite know what I was doing... Since shooting of that photo I've learned a lot about post process.

one of the good things about digital, you can always go back and reprocess

@ElendilTheTall Aye, and the bigger the better. It would be perfect if accompanied by remote triggers and a stand :)

bring the whites up on that little dude!

@EsaPaulasto and some continuous lighting, and an 85mm 1.8, and a FF body, and, and... :)

Yep, I keep all RAW files that I've made into JPG, and a good deal of those I've not processed too. Deleting only obvious failures.

yeh, that "..and...." never ends :)

I want a Sony lens, an 85mm f/2.8

It is very cheap, but even so I just can't afford it right now.. Need to wait a couple of months or so.

I'm saving for a 17-55 2.8

500 second hand

doh, it's already past 2 pm.

hopefully get it next year

g2g

cya

@EsaPaulasto dead center is not "by the book" on a shot like that, particularly with the odd cropping of the trampoline itself

even better in that context would have been to center the trampoline

she felt unmoving in the first because the focus was her, in reality, you want the focus to be her on the trampoline, which means focus on the trampoline and then people will see "oh a trampoline, and look, there is a girl jumping on it"

the first shot they see "oh a girl..... hmm, oh, I guess she's on something, oh yeah, I guess that must be a trampoline cause she's floating."

proper subject selection is important in telling the story

@ElendilTheTall too much of the start of the sunset draws your eye away from the lighthouse. I find my eye focusing entirely trying to find what's going on to the right and can't pull back to the light house

@AJHenderson uh huh

what do you think of the other one?

either need to crop before the skyline starts brightening considerable or leave the sky as a whole skyscape with the lighthouse sitting in front of it. I do like the first a lot

@AJHenderson definitely my preferred one also

the clouds nicely form a triangle towards the lighthouse

which makes it work much better

my eyes start on the right, follow the clouds in and end on the lighthouse

sometimes they start on the lighthouse as well

but it's a far more comfortable image, my eyes can sit naturally on it

yah

I am pleased with it

it was a pleasure to shoot - the place was dead calm and quiet, the sky was beautiful, the waves lapped the shore

the air was fresh and salty

and the shot came out nicely

all in all a good evening's work

I like yours more, but it is a similar style of composition to

I was shooting from on top of a cruise ship in the morning though

and it wasn't as bright

that was off the other side of the ship

how I wish I could have combined them

looks shoppable

if you don't mind that kind of thing :)

@EsaPaulasto hehe, I guess an old dog can learn new tricks ;)

@ElendilTheTall not enough detail in the lighthouse

and it's too small

it wasn't a big tower, maybe 30 feet tall

as you can see from the image, I'm well above it standing on the deck of a cruise ship

yeah

but if I'd been on the ground along the rocks on the left side there

it would have been very similar to your shot

@EsaPaulasto interestingly though, that's also the hardest thing about event and particularly wedding photography, or atleast one of them. You are under high pressure with things that only happen once, but you have to not only be keeping track of how to shoot what you are currently looking at, but also what is going on around you that you could be shooting

so imagine doing that thought process, but doing it on everything in the room at the same time, all the time, for six to eleven hours straight

@AJHenderson second shooters are your friends :)

@ElendilTheTall yeah, but there's a reason they are called second shooters

it makes it a little less stressful, but doesn't require any less focus

from my video days when I had a second camera person, it really just meant I could get two things I wanted at the same time instead of only one

but I was still having to make all the same evaluations in my head

I have second shot a couple of times. First time I was dead on my feet. The second time I tanked up on energy drinks and chocolate :)

it just added having to track what my dad was doing

yes, I had that safety net, but it wasn't materially easier

in some ways, it is easier when I don't have to focus on another shooter (not blocking shots, etc)

@AJHenderson I always made it my business not to be in the way

yeah, but it's a two way street, you have to be watching each other

I would usually use a 70-200 to take more candid shots while the main guy did his thing

it annoys the snot out of me when other photographers or videographers don't do the same

but it does sound like you would make a decent second shooter

since from this limited discussion, it seems like you understand the role well

@AJHenderson <bows>

:)

I had no complaints

@ElendilTheTall second only to seeing the shot when you don't have your camera handy

@AJHenderson I always have my S4 for that :)

@ElendilTheTall I've got the lumiquest version of that

@ElendilTheTall yeah, it doesn't really help with shots where dof is critical though :(

there's a (shitty) app for that!

store.lumiquest.com/lumiquest-softbox

also store.lumiquest.com/lumiquest-quik-bounce

they do a reasonable job

I've actually found them most useful for macro

what kind of body are you on again Elendil?

@AJHenderson D7000

ok, thought it was a nikon from the lens you mentioned. I don't recall if Canon has anything in that range and aperture

next saving target is a 17-55 2.8 I think

@ElendilTheTall Love those things.

I've never done any night video on a DSLR. Did a quick test last night and it looked somewhat alright (on camera LCD) but pretty grainy when I pulled it up on a monitor today. Thinking ISO setting was off. I had it on 400. Any idea for a dimly lit street what sort of ISO I should look at using?

@AndyML ah, one of my loyal 500px followers. I note you haven't liked or favourited any of my new shots. This displeases me. <readies laser-sharks>

@ElendilTheTall You're like Putin. "Go ahead and cast your votes, as long as they are for me." ;)

@AndyML damn straight. Don't make me invade!

@ElendilTheTall Shoot, Putin is so hardcore he doesn't even invade. He just says, "it's mine," and then goes in to "protect"

indeed

well, don't make me protect then :)

@andyml That's more like it!

@ElendilTheTall lol, leave your shirt on, Putin.

@Ryan depends on your aperture

but in general, you have to shoot pretty high ISO if it is pretty dark. Did it look noisy looking at individual frames or actual video?

and the dark parts are always a bit more dark

this isn't my video, but here is a well done demonstration of what the 5D Mark iii does for low light video, just to give you an idea of what it can be on the high end

note that it was shot at f/2.5

obviously lower level cameras are going to need far more light though

I forget what kind of camera you shoot on though

actual video, didn't look at individual frames. I'm on a Canon 70

photo came out crystal clear but then for that I used bulb and know what I'm doing. Video just looks grainy

haha, now is the closest ting to a vagina on the front page, we'll ever get. Orchids always looked like vaginas to me.

well, not always, but since my ex drew it to my attention.

Too much Georgia O'Keefe will do that

updated Lytro camera...looking more like a camrea now lol: petapixel.com/2014/04/22/…

@rfusca that appears inspired by black magic design a bit

@AJHenderson yup

I'm a little disappointed that the review didn't say going straight to 11

and instead settlled for 10

was a perfectly good opportunity to make a reference

i'm trying to figure out if the low res screen on the back is a cost cutting measure or a n attempt to hide the low resolution

@AJHenderson lol

indeed

ouch, $1600 is still a bit much

I was seriously considering it as a contender for a special use camera for weddings, but not at $1600

ya, especially because I never think the photos look 'sharp'

atleast not before a lot of other things on my list

if it was $800 or under, I'd move it to the top or possibly next to top of my list

the perspective shift is actually what I'd be the most interested in

because in theory, that could handle good quality 3d content

so having a couple of fun moments captured like that would be nice to have

but they're just that, a secondary nice to have

sure

I'll still consider it after 2 or 3 more 600EX-RTs, a 1.2 prime and maybe a 100-400L

oh and another camera body

shrug I guess

still seems like just a bit of a toy

so in other words, if business really really really takes off

lol

Ideally, I'd want to have a second shooter on any events I used it for

but I'm imagining things like certain dance shots or things like the tosses where it could be really awesome to move from one person's reaction to anothers

and be able to follow the focus and perspective shift the scene

@MichaelNielsen petapixel.com/2014/04/21/… have you seen that?

@AJHenderson have you seen the tiny amount of perspective shift it allows?

tiny

it's not much sure, it is from a single point of view, but it's still enough for a decent 3d effect

@rfusca wow

that's kinda crazy

@AJHenderson i know, right?

@rfusca granted, I would have handled the situation slightly differently

@AJHenderson less nice, more legal?

no, more talking to people that matter

and less talking to the band

I'd have started talking to the band, but after the initial poor response, I would have contacted their label and manager

who would be far more familiar with the business side

it's a business matter, not a musical one, half the time the band themselves will be pretty clueless

it isn't their job to understand rights and business, just music and performing

and you get ahold of their promoter or their manager and the problem will be resolved very quickly by someone they do listen to

which I'm sure is what eventually happened

the facebook messages they probably respond to directly, but the twitter is probably followed by someone in management that did a back flip double summersault double take and got them on the phone post haste

@AJHenderson ya, that was my thought was well

makes sense just from how they responded after understanding it too

clearly, they as individuals, are big on freedom of art

and probably annoyed by those who believe in IP

so they responded as such

out of ignorance and passion

especially with the follow up post to say most forms rather than all forms of digital media

they see most of their income coming from shows and merch and don't see that other art forms are more dependent on control of the art to make a living

ah, reading his blog, thats what eventually happened: "I also sent a quick email to their Australian tour manager to see if they could be of any help, I was met with a much more reasonable and extremely polite and professional response, I don’t feel it’s appropriate the post this response, but it was very apologetic and they contacted Red Jumpsuit for me to have the image removed."

must be a weak type of music since they play in places with white ceiling :)

@rfusca yeah, it's one of those random things I know about the industry being cross disciplinary

@MichaelNielsen lol

ok....i'm missing something...how is this photography? is that used for old film or such? photo.stackexchange.com/questions/49714/…

@rfusca it's actually used for camera gear

I had never heard of them either

but it's apparently to prevent mold

using a dehumidifying cabinet to keep it cool, dark and dry

ah, gotcha

well I should say I'd never heard of them before this site

I discovered them about 6 months ago

from another question

A place in the middle of a forest, not far away from our cottage.

There's a fireplace for grilling whatever you brought with you. A little barn for wood to burn in that fireplace, supplied with dry wood all around the year. And an outhouse if need arises. A nice place for a daytrip with family :)

Free to use for anyone passing by. Kept up by the local community.

@EsaPaulasto that's pretty cool

Yeah, it is :) The distance is good for a walk with our dogs, so I've visited the place around the year. A fire will warm you nicely when it is below freezing point in winter, so I've lit a fire even when I've not brought anything to eat :)

^^ a mobile phone photo

i wish I lived a bit more out in the middle of nowhere like that

Temp was -16 C when that photo was taken. (3F)

@rfusca - I live in a small town, in an apartment block... The drive to our countryside home takes one hour.

@EsaPaulasto yes, but you have a countryside home ;)

Well, yeah, a modest one at that. No internet, not even a TV. But we have running water, electricity, fridge, dish washing machine, etc :)

And silence!

We have silence there, and that's what I value highly.

@EsaPaulasto indeed

I miss the summers I got to spend outdoors away from computers and technology in my youth

My father died 17 years ago and my mother died 8 years ago. They owned their home, a rather large (by Finnish standard) house and not a penny of bank loan left. So, after our mother died me and my sister sold the house and split the money between us. I used half of my share to buy the cottage. That's how it came to us :)

facebook.com/media/set/…

the guy who uploads them on the page says it is my best set yet :)

Esa could have had a fullframe camera ;)

^^ and today I would be stuck with 7+ years old outdated technology ;)

Back then I was driving a Toyota Camry which had mileage on it from here to moon, literally. Bought the cottage and a newer carriage and such. Buying a system camera never crossed my mind then.

hows the birch pollen in finland? here it is over 4000

Im dying

100 is considered a high number.

4000 is the exposure that breeds new allergics

@MichaelN - Sorry but I have no clue, I don't follow the pollen newscasts. None of my family is allergic enough to bother with the news.

thats why you can appreciate a cottage. the thought for me to stay so rural and sneeze and fight for my breath all the time , and have to fix it up all the time, is not a nice one. I hate getting my hands dirty, except for cooking and sex.

I prefer to drive through mountains in a big sporty car and stay at airconditioned hotels with breakfast and a fancy restaurant inside :)

You are staying too much time indoors.

I don't mind the outdoors, necessarily, but I like my tech. I'm the guy with no problem bringing a laptop camping and having an internet connection available in the middle of the ocean

Ah, have to admit I like to have a smartphone with me at cottage too ;)

How many Microsoft employees does it take to change a lamp? - Four. One changes the lamp and three creates service packs for the lamp.