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3:41 PM
@hichris123 @gerrit time to check your email again
 
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Q: Moderator Pro Tem Announcement

Jon EricsonThroughout the beta, we need members from the site whose focus is to engage the community, both in community-building issues and site management. That's why we select a few members from each community to act as temporary, provisional Moderators. You can read about the program here: Moderators Pro...

You guys accepted too quickly. I was hoping to have a nice relaxing morning refreshing my email. ;-)
 
:)
 
@casey Thanks to you, @gerrit and @hichris123 for taking this on. See you in the Teachers' Lounge.
 
4:20 PM
How do I make sure that my chat account is associated with the Earth Sciences site?
 
@gerrit find your chat profile page and in the parent user field, click change and search for earthscience
beaten!
 
@JonEricson Thanks.
 
5:15 PM
casey has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
casey has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
I think that should fix the main site and meta feeds
 
@casey Thanks.
 
no problem
 
5:39 PM
casey has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
 
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7:04 PM
casey has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
casey has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
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Q: Which archaeology-related questions are on topic?

Pavel V.I have already asked few questions on the border between archaeology and earth sciences, such as this or this. I want to ask more, but I would like to be sure that they are on topic before asking. What I would expect to be on topic, all the time or almost all the time: archaeological geophysic...

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Q: A tag for mantle plumes/hotspots?

kaberettOne question that'd benefit from this already, and as a somewhat controversial topic and an active area of research I'd be astonished if we don't get more. I suggest "mantle-plumes", as hotspot's more contested terminology (because it ascribes a particular process of formation to surface features...

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Q: Moderator Pro Tem Announcement

Jon EricsonThroughout the beta, we need members from the site whose focus is to engage the community, both in community-building issues and site management. That's why we select a few members from each community to act as temporary, provisional Moderators. You can read about the program here: Moderators Pro...

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Q: Add Teg for Geoinformatics

david valentineGeoinformatics is the science and the technology which develops and uses information science infrastructure to address the problems of geography, geosciences and related branches of engineering.

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Q: Tags for Organizations

david valentineShould we add tags to allow for users to ask questions of specific agencies/datasets? (Sorry about the US Centric agency list) USGS - US Geological Survey US EPA - Environmental Protection Agency (US) EPA - Environmental Protection Agency NWS - US National Weather Service NOAA - National Oc...

 
Huh, that's a point - can someone give me advice on etiquette for introducing a tag? I now have enough rep to unilaterally introduce a mantle-plumes tag but I've not really used SE before so I've got no idea how rude it would be to do so...
 
@kaberett Just go ahead and create it. The worst that can happen is that others retag it, or that it is made a synonym of others.
 
Provided it's not seen as wasted work/something that ought to have consensus before decisions are made! Cheers; will go tag things up now. :-)
 
well I guess I finally fixed that... sorry for the spam :)
@kaberett if you have at least 150 rep, you can create new tags by just adding them to your question
 
casey has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
casey has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
7:15 PM
and now that should really fix the question feed, since it seemed to work for meta
 
@casey: yep; when I posted the question in meta I didn't have 150rep, and I've not participated in SE before so wasn't sure if there were non-obvious politeness norms around getting consensus in meta prior to introducing tags :-) In any case I've updated my meta post.
 
@casey yep it worked
 
@kaberett no problem. You'll find SE lets the community take ownership in a way other places do not.
@Seth yep. Interesting to note that if the feed link is wrong and you edit it to correct it, it won't work. You have to delete it and add it new with the right link.
 
I'm pretty used to consensus-based decision making, so while "the community taking ownership" can obviously mean "decisions don't get handed down from on high by mods" in can also mean "you need a consensus of at least three people to take moderation/editing-style action" :-) Just wanted to check in about norms!
 
7:33 PM
This might be worth reading if you have any concerns about the process: stackoverflow.com/help/tagging and stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/create-tags
 
Neo
today is the first day we've gotten a lot of questions from people who haven't asked many before. we're growing =)
 
Maybe someone has been advertising at EGU
 
I recall someone mentioning they were going to do that
 
Neo
is EGU over ?
 
today or tomorrow I think
 
7:43 PM
EGU is until and including Friday
 
Hello people!
 
oh right, today is not thursday. I lose track of these things...
 
reads transcript
 
@casey It is for the majority of the world population actually.
 
@gerrit true, but like SE I define my days by GMT, despite living in the US. Keeps me in sync with meteo time and is a spillover from when I used to fly and ATC does everything in GMT
 
Neo
7:48 PM
Man.... I didn't know people lived outside of USA
 
@Neo sadly most americans seem to know that, they just don't care
 
Aww, I am genuinely sad that the exciting volcanology is getting less interest than the climate science I am pulling out of my accidentally-a-third-of-an-MSci. Which I suppose means I need to point more volcanologists at this place. chinhand
 
@kaberett we need more of everything.
 
Neo
yea
@kaberett i am a volcano guy, sorta
 
In the meteo tag, i'm #1 in answers with 89 upvotes and #2 only has 18. Thats a big gap. We need more meteorologists :)
 
Neo
7:52 PM
where do we check this ?
 
click on a tag, then the "top users" link
it gives top answers and askers for all time and the last 30 days
 
Neo
Geophysics is a bit more balanced
im top geophysics, 50, but there is someone with 26
GEODYNAMICS
ON THE OTHER HAND
is very ballanced
=D
(fitting because of the subject matter)
 
@EnergyNumbers Hey, thanks!
@Neo I can't tell you precise stats, but I can tell you this: we're doing pretty good in posts & especially views. Quite a few views for this early.
 
@hichris123 And the precise stats don't say the important bit, any more than the Area 51 stats do. The important bit is building a sufficiently-sized community that gets the Stack Exchange ethic.
 
Neo
@hichris123 yeah. It feels that way, which is good, because i have some question/answer fatigue, and am betting some others are having it as well
 
8:04 PM
@EnergyNumbers Yup, that.
 
I'm not doing well at formulating questions (I have Issues with learning in public) but if it would be helpful I can bounce ideas around with folk. (Mental health == I probably need at least one person to say "that's a question it would be good to have answered" before I can post; I appreciate that's extra work for people and thus possibly not worth it.)
 
@Neo There's a lot of other important ways to contribute - flagging, down-voting, closing and deleting the bad stuff. Going through the review queues. Upvoting the good stuff. On-topic chat. Helpful comments to new posters.
And just take a break now and again - there's no sense in contributing from a sense of duty, 'cos that's not sustainable.
@kaberett Chat is a great place to refine questions before posting them.
 
Neo
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Q: Is global warming occuring only because of humans?

Poomrokc The 3yearsI learned that human activities produce gases that deplete the ozone layer, and create the greenhouse layer, which increases the world's temperature. (And seems real , now in Thailand it's 35 degree Celsius) Now. I want to know that if there isn't any human activities that causes changes to at...

i think this question has already been answered, should i vote to close ?
ohb
i see people have already voted to close it for the same reason... no dilemma then
 
@Neo I agree it's already been answered by the previous question (even though the OP doesn't seem to think so).
 
@kaberett The OP could tweak it so that it was more obviously not a duplicate: if they were to ask about the last millennium, rather than the last century, for example. Which would introduce the uncertainties around the period that's been called the Little Ice Age
 
8:15 PM
er, tags-wise, we appear to have both "tectonics" and "plate-tectonics". Those should prooobably be treated as synonyms. This something I should post to meta for, or can it Just Be Done?
 
@kaberett ... which do you want to be the master tag? :P
 
Neo
@kaberett i disagree. tectonics exist on europa. they are not plate-tectonics
@kaberett there are also many tectonic processes on earth that have nothing to do with plate tectonics
 
@aretxabaleta See your suggested tag wiki excerpt edit; tag wiki excerpts should be used to say why one should use the tag, and possibly a brief description if necessary.
 
Neo
@kaberett now, it might be improperly used, which is a different story.
 
@Neo g okay, if you're not cool with collapsing "plate tectonics" into "tectonics" then I'm find with that :-)
 
Neo
8:21 PM
@kaberett i think we will just have a ton of tags for this site, considering how diverse Earth Sciences is.
 
9:14 PM
"Why does the earth spin clockwise?" -- Because you're looking at it from the northern hemisphere.
 
Neo
@casey lol. If you post that answer i'll upvote it
 
@Neo whereas I will twitch, coz it's the kind of antagonism that's put me off SE in the past. As a data point.
 
Neo
@kaberett @casey would probably not use that exact wording, based on his previous answers
 
9:39 PM
@kaberett I keep that kind of antagonism in the chatroom. I'm good at restraining myself from what I might post elsewhere
The core of his Q is really "why does earth rotate the direction it does". If it really was "why CW", i would write up something nice explaining its a NH perspective
 
@casey in which case no twitching from me. :-) And yes, agreed.
 
9:53 PM
I'm doing a bit of comment cleanup: if you don't see a comment anymore it's most likely because it was obsolete.
 
10:25 PM
Thanks @hichris123
 
Neo
10:38 PM
@kaberett, you've given some thoughtful answers; what field are you in ?
 
@Neo I'm a PhD student in isotope geochemistry, specialising in stable isotope fractionation in ocean island basalts; I accidentally have a third of an MSci in climate science. Oh, and I (approximately) minored in organic chemistry.
 
Neo
@kaberett oh i see, grad student in geochem =)
 
@Neo yep :-)
 
Neo
@kaberett I figured most people here would be undergraduates; but it seems many of the active users are grad students
 
I know Simon W via the Dreamwidth project; he thought I might be both interested and useful around here :-)
@Neo I actively enjoy teaching - I love demonstrating to undergrads (seriously looking forward to a four-day workshop later this month on the GIMP, Inkscape, and using Python for statistics) and last week I got to give 3 30-minute talks to a bunch of 11yos at a school my mate teaches at :-)
 
Neo
10:40 PM
I wanted to do my PhD in UK
but so hard for americans to get funding there
 
nod
You say that like it didn't work out?
Hah. Yeah. Ye-ah.
 
Neo
I got accepted at Oxford but basically had to win a scholarship to go there
 
Yeah, the funding lottery's... interesting. Who'd you have been with at Ox?
 
Neo
so I'm forced to stay in the USA because of funding
Richard Katz
 
Ohhhhh, nice. So sorry you didn't get the scholarship, he's a sweetheart. (And very, very good, obviously)
(if it helps any, Caltech rejected me because - as far as I can tell - they didn't get back to me about how serious they were about me sitting the GRE, and it seems to be impossible to sit the GRE with accommodations for disability outside the US... I seriously ended up on the phone to three different countries in an attempt to find anyone who could give me useful information)
 
Neo
10:43 PM
I'm surprised Caltech cared
about GRE
I mean, yes its a requirement
But maybe geochem is different in geophysics that they don't take much stock in it
but at least it will only take you 3 years to finish PhD
US PhD is 5 years T_T
 
Yeah, I know :-) And TBH given that I had Ed Stolper writing me a recommendation I seriously cannot imagine what on earth else it was 'tech was sulking about...!
urgh. I had got down to "that's all the unanswered questions I even vaguely feel like answering". Have skimmed back through the list and acquired another 9 I might be able to have a stab at. >:[
 
11:35 PM
hichris123, gerrit, casey - thank you for volunteering to be the Moderators
 
okay, actually by far the coolest thing I have come across today: the answer to one of the questions that'd been languishing for a while turns out to be BIOGEOGRAPHICAL ANALYSIS VIA GENETICS OF AN ANTARCTIC OCTOPOD AS INDICATIVE OF ANTARCTIC ICE COVER HISTORY. For more information, see earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/277/…
... whoops, in which I notice that the octopus distracted me from answer the second half of the question...
aaaand we're down to under 40 unanswered questions; highest I saw it today was around 50. Go team? :-)
 
Neo
11:52 PM
it would be good to get it under 10% right ?
 
So it would seem according to area51? But we are at least bang-on 80% atm. (Am going to have a go at bashing out a few more answers before I sleep...)
 
Neo
@kaberett, that would be amazing
@kaberett if you find references that would be great; I proposed to my advisor that maybe look at other areas besides taiwan
@kaberett When i saw that poster at AGU I was very skeptical
 
@Neo yeah, I think that one is going to want me to be (a) more awake and (b) not having taken bedmeds :-) Some stuff I can happily talk about when I'm off my face, other not so much.
but I'm pretty sure Dan McKenzie was being cheerful about the relationship
 

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