The Comms Room

TheCleaner

3:00 PM

@NathanC There is no windows key. :) -- they are touch screen thin clients with just a mouse and onscreen keyboard.

Bob

@TheCleaner Don't OSKs usually have a winkey?

TheCleaner

@Bob honestly, I'd have to go look now. But them pressing win-r would be impressive enough for these folks. And even then they'd pretty much be stuck at a run line without anything they could really type. This was more of a simple way of preventing them from opening IE (which is on their tserver desktop) and going to FB or similar for free without preventing the server itself from gaining access to the web for admin purposes.

I was actually going to ask this exact question last Friday @Bob over on SU but nobody was in the chat room there and I figured it might get closed.

Bob

shrug I've been on the user side of this (bypassing access controls) not too long ago.

Though I'd like to think I'm rather better at that than your typical users :P

Nathan C

@TheCleaner Just thinking of bypass methods since I used to do this on uni computers a few years back :)

TheCleaner

3:17 PM

@NathanC Yeah, they're might be ways to bypass it, but we aren't interested in that rare case...that person won't last long here regardless. This is for the typical shop floor worker that was taking advantage of their terminal because it was easily done before.

Nathan C

Ah.

MichelZ

@NathanC Hibernate works great. "powercfg -h off"

Nathan C

@MichelZ On occasion I'd get a "Windows was unable to resume from hibernate. YOUR STUFF'S GONE, BITCH!"

tombull89

also speaking about spending lots of money, anyone know U2's/Apple's reasoning for giving away their album? Okay, Apple paid U2 $100 million, but it's not like they're gonna recoup that from people buying their other albums, and is two week exclusivity gonna matter much?

Nathan C

@tombull89 So they can work the "EXCLUSIVELY ON FruitTunes!" for the next two weeks

Because, you know, anything else is just too mainstream

Also, with over 4 million iPhone 6's sold over the weekend, I doubt Apple is hurting in the wallet.

MichelZ

3:28 PM

damn iFruit

tombull89

They could have chosen a more...relavant...band...as, well... whoisu2.com

Nathan C

I'm happy with my S3...

MichelZ

I'm happy with my 5S

I'll skip 4 generations now

went from 3GS -> 5S

Nathan C

No reason to upgrade...aside from the annoying reboots when it feels like it

Usually when I'm using google maps as a GPS and I'm coming up to a series of turns to take ... "LOLREBOOT"

MichelZ

except if there's a killer feature of course

Nathan C

3:31 PM

I'll wait for the next galaxy generation (the answer to the iphone 6, maybe?) then upgrade then

MichelZ

like when it can make me popcorn

Nathan C

But there's literally nothing the iPhone 6 has that android hasn't been doing for a while now, lol

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite "Don't do that."

MichelZ

Android. Do people still use that?

Michael Hampton

@MichelZ Um, just everyone who isn't fooled by the cult of Apple.

MichelZ

3:33 PM

yeah, if you want to do hacky things with your phone.. :)

Chris S

You can take my Android when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

Michael Hampton

@MichelZ I want a phone that does what I want it to. Not what Apple or the US government want.

MichelZ

@MichaelHampton And what do you want your phone to do?

Chris S

I want my phone to phone like a phone.

Michael Hampton

@MichelZ Among other things, not spy on me.

MichelZ

3:35 PM

@MichaelHampton good luck with that

Michael Hampton

My Android phones like a phone, internets like an internet, and bosses like a boss.

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@MichelZ Actually it's not too hard :)

MichelZ

yeah, I know... you all LIKE JAVA!!!! :D

@MichaelHampton If you keep it OFF all the time, definitely

Dennis Nolte

@MichelZ not enough, battery needs to be out.

Michael Hampton

@MichelZ Well I can't do anything about the tower triangulation but I can certainly prevent my GPS being sent to all and sundry.

MichelZ

@MichaelHampton so they have your location within 100m instead of 5m... so what?

Michael Hampton

3:37 PM

@MichelZ So a lot of people live within 100m of me.

MichelZ

I think we're in paranoid mode again :D

Michael Hampton

@MichelZ I live and work there.

MichelZ

also, if they want to find you - they find you

Michael Hampton

@MichelZ That sounds very fatalistic.

MichelZ

uh.

can you google that word for me?

Michael Hampton

3:40 PM

Fatalism

Fatalism is a philosophical doctrine stressing the subjugation of all events or actions to fate. Fatalism generally refers to any of the following ideas: The view that we are powerless to do anything other than what we actually do. Included in this is that man has no power to influence the future, or indeed, his own actions. This belief is very similar to predeterminism. An attitude of resignation in the face of some future event or events which are thought to be inevitable. Friedrich Nietzsche named this idea with "Turkish fatalism" in his book The Wanderer and His Shadow. That actions are free...

MichelZ

noun
1.
the acceptance of all things and events as inevitable; submission to fate:
Her fatalism helped her to face death with stoic calm.
2.
Philosophy. the doctrine that all events are subject to fate or inevitable predetermination.

Michael Hampton

I do not see the (US or other) government as all powerful, and I certainly know that their spying on us can be made much more difficult or even impossible in some cases.

Nathan C

Meh, the government can track me all they want. They'll just get bored.

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