@Tanner I've got nothing against them either, but at the end of the day, it's just another server... that you don't have complete control over. So it's not going to get any extra love from me on that basis, and probably merits a little less. Can't help but thinking that someone's getting take for a ride when I see those questions about setting up a big infrastructure on those servers... "We'll see how much you like those nifty clouds when you get a 6 figure bill at the end of the month..."
@Magellan Honestly, I think you should be able to cast a reopen vote to cancel out a close vote, before a question's closed. But that's been proposed and shot down on meta before.
@HopelessN00b hot and bothered in the bad scary afraid way sometimes too. like insisting that all services be hosted in-house when a SaaS service might be a better solution.
@HopelessN00b The way I see it, we're still running mostly 2003, we don't patch, we're dropping massive $$$ in to high availability that we're not testing (and has been demonstrated to break when a node goes down), and we've got a 'server room' that's really just office space and an AC that breaks every summer. That, to me, says 'go to the cloud'.
@kce that's why you always start with the most expensive cloud provider. That way when you switch next year management goes "wow! Look at all the operational expenses you've shaved in this year's budget! Bonus for you!"
@HopelessN00b A few EC2 instances OpEx is less than a full rack and connectivity at many good datacenters. Plenty of small shops with loose compliance requirements could do that as their bootstrapping.
@Tanner Call me a dinosaur, but to me, that says "colocate in a real datacenter."
Pushing it to the cloud isn't going to fix anything except the shitty closet your neglected servers are in. They'll still be neglected and obsolete, just... cloudy, if you put them in the cloud.
@HopelessN00b Azure updates and patches junk automatically. Hardware won't be our problem. HA would be a matter of spinning up another instance... That and our colo options are a shitty basement owned by the local ISP (which we do use, for 10k a year...) or something in Seattle, which is 2 hours and a mountain pass away.
@voretaq7 I'm not saying there's no use case for the cloud, but it's hard to make the argument that "cloud" isn't overhyped and utilized where it shouldn't be, because some MBA got a rager over eliminating CapEx (and creating a bunch of OpEx instead).
@HopelessN00b I especially like Moz's recent article about reducing their cloud by going out of AWS. They downplayed their monthly AWS expenditures by a solid 50% in that article.
@HopelessN00b agreed, but that doesn't make the questions bad or off topic which seems to be the attitude of many of our fellow dinosaurs. (Now granted many of the questions are shit for other reasons...)
@PatoSáinz Debian should use the chipper-shredder :P
TL;DR I want to quickly vote for good questions to be left open when they already have close votes.
Currently, we cannot easily vote for questions to be left open when they have existing close votes on them.
There have been numerous good questions that are descriptive, on-topic, and informativ...
@Tanner Meh, MS patches that actually eff things up have always been pretty rare. Of course, the crappy code tricks third party devs play... well, that's a different issue that's not any better on Linux or BSD or AS/400 or whatever else.
@HopelessN00b I did run in to one glaring issue with 8.1: stackoverflow.com/questions/18947373/… If that had been an autoupdate on server stuff I would have been screaming and crying
@TheCleaner That sounds weird when it's not followed by "stop NOW or I'll scream!" ... but I guess I can sleep easy tonight, knowing I'd made the world a better place today. :)
@TheCleaner I was gonna ask for his client's number to offer a better rate, but yeah, I guess the sentiment is pretty much the same. Like I said, making the world a slightly better place. :)
@Magellan - I upvoted you...especially since it went to mSO where they don't like our kind. But, I thought a Leave Open vote didn't necessarily counter a close vote...so basically not voting to close a question is the same thing. Except I guess it removes it from the review queue if it gets enough leave open votes. Does it actually reset the VTC count? Meaning if 2 people VTC it and 2 set it as "Leave Open" does it still show 2 VTC counts on the question or is it now back to zero?
Was this really our first "what's an open DNS resolver and how do I not have one" question?? Seems like it shouldn't be, but I'm not seeing another one.
I don't have the strongest background in computer security, but yesterday one of my company servers was shut down by our host.
It's a server assigned a public IP where I host several web-service applications including websites and APIs. I was told that my server "is running an open dns resolver...
@ewwhite yeah. I'd recommend keeping at it and making sure that you don't use too much pressure. The weight of the shaver should be adequate, you don't need to press.
TL;DR I want to be able to quickly vote to keep good questions open WITHOUT having to go click through the review queue.
Currently, we cannot easily vote for questions to be left open when they have existing close votes on them - the only way to do this is to go to the review queue and click thr...
I remember having a discussion with someone about the US Navy's "no shave" allowance for that particular problem. Us pasty guys would have to shave anyway.
@ewwhite I don't do it the way most do- I use soap (or proraso shaving gel, non foaming) and lather it with my fingers. Works as well as the brush if you do it after a shower
@ewwhite It's one of the more pleasant parts of the morning routine once you get into the habit. I'm really fond of the brown-tube Proraso sandalwood shaving paste.
also, to avoid cuts and ingrown hair, I have to shave with the grain before even attempting a cleanup against the grain, but not everyone can do that second step.
@Magellan @voretaq7 -- trust me I like the idea you proposed...just saw that the exact same one was also proposed and set as dupe to my original dupe I put on yours. See here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/172491/… where in the comments they state that leaving in the review area is "by design" whatever that means...since they don't really say why it is only allowed there.
HEY...I'm not the bad guy here!... :) Personally, I think it's good that I set the dupe and you and others are disagreeing it is a dupe. Maybe it'll garner better attention then it did in the past. I'd like the same button choice...
Hey, @ewwhite (or whomever), anyone have any docs (best practices) about setting up limited access accounts in vCenter, so that a group of contractors can administer a group of VMs (and only that group)? I can't seem to find anything official via Googling, and would like to be sure I'm doing it right.
@HopelessN00b I'd set it up the same way as security groups in AD (make a group with the required access and make the contractors members of that group)
@TheCleaner nah, it's robo-review once it's in the queue
it's kind of ironic that the question is its own example in this regard: I had to click through 3 other things in /review before it let me vote to keep that one open.
(and because I was looking for a specific question I just skipped everything else)
@ewwhite Yeah, I already stumbled across the cornfusing way they deal with adding accounts and roles in the GUI, so I've already traversed that... irritation.
@voretaq7 sorry then. I still think it's a dupe from that other question at least in terms of the latest answer to the question unless Shog or another SE employee bothers to answer @Magellan with a newer answer directly on his now.
@TheCleaner that's basically what I'm angling for - either a "No, we're keeping the design this way because <*good reasons*>" or "We'll make this change in 6-8 weeks"
@JoelESalas Parade for the football team. My co-workers didn't even bother going to the office today. It's almost impossible to move around in the city with all the people in town for the Seahawks' homecoming parade.
@voretaq7 Of course, you can bypass that with a knife and simple knowledge of wiring. But I suppose it's vastly cheaper than disconnecting the ports from the mobo.
@voretaq7 You can usually separate it enough to get a thin contact into the port. I get the impression they don't have a lot of QC around the idea of pasting apoxy into the ports. At least, on the devices I've seen.
Hmm. Not on the ones I've seen, but that would be the proper way to do it... if you can really use the word "proper" to describe pasting epoxy over a computer port.
people need to understand the difference between discreet and discrete...
App Monitoring - Know at all times what apps are your employees downloading and using on their mobile devices, keeping a discreet line between work and leisure.
I'm not a female... am I allowed to find that more than a wee bit creepy anyway? I mean, tighty-whiteys is a bit too far. Put boxers on the guy to dispel the whole may-rape-you-and/or-eat-your-brains vibe it's giving off.
OTOH, that statue seems to be begging for amusing warning signs about the zombie apocalypse to be placed nearby. Wonder if they'd have a sense of humor about that, or call the cops on me.
@voretaq7 @HopelessN00b there was an OLD (mid 90s) website that had wav files of funny tech support calls and I remember one where the guy was explaining to Gateway support that he had sawed off the back of his computer to get to the mobo and was attempting to solder on more RAM and the computer wouldn't boot properly.
@Dan Don't sweat it, man. Everyone's woken up next to a fattie with a splitting hangover. No biggie, as long as the fattie's the right sex for you.
If not, whatever you do, don't let your friends know that it hurts to sit down because you got drunk and got plowed by a well-hung black dude. They'll never let you hear the end of it.
sex.guru is already taken, for example... and interestingly, sex.bike and sex.plumbing as well. That's gotta be a bot. I'd Google "sex bike" or "sex plumbing" to see if those are even things, but fear that the results may scar me.
@Dan Yeah, what would that mean? I'm picturing ovaries. Not sure exactly what statement "The Ovaries" makes, but I don't think it's the right statement for me.
@HopelessN00b and to think in my day we had to content ourself with what you could make up using country code domains (dirty.cx, messy.cx, hot.cx, yourdads.cc, yourmoms.cc....)
@Dan Yeah, I did once. My name is apparently translates to some Chinese company's name, so they bought the .com off me for a few hundred bucks. Think I bought a new graphics card with it. And/or booze.
@Dan Yeah. And I wasn't using it... was gonna set up a website and emal, but never got around it... so, what the hell. A few hundred bucks was better than some project I wasn't ever going to get around to.
Looks like it's available again... maybe I'll pick it up... but more alarmingly, some douche who shares my name has a myspace profile. That prominent displays a love of Justin Timberlake albums. I think I'm gonna have to change my name.
@DennisKaarsemaker I'm actually not sure which is worse... myspace or Justin Timberlake. Seems a lot like choosing death by drowning or death by hanging.