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3:02 AM
@PatoSáinz they changed when we sought out a new land, not up to me, fwiw I think you'd be fine there since you're really like 40 ;), however as the next generation of SF I think it's up to you to help shape the future of the site, perhaps you can save SF from itself
 
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3:22 AM
@BigHomie sure give me a couple of years to learn Xen, Samba, SELinux, etc. and maybe, probably, perhaps, I could collaborate with the front page :)
 
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@BigHomie oh I thought it had something to do with the new ToS Slack was rolling out
 
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@BigHomie can't see anything related to it in this room's archives nor Slack's logs, well I think I'll just talk it up with @Wesley via mail, I'm sure I can sort this out
 
2:12 PM
Hello. I've run email systems and found that much of the disk usage is duplication. Often an individual will forward a PDF out of the inbox into the sent folder for example, and then it shows up in their co-worker's inbox. So the same PDF is stored many times.
I think that instead of saving the original email, I should store all the data needed, so that way I can save each attachment in it's own file or blob, and then when the person selects the Show Original feature, it re-encodes the files exactly as they were, and checksums to make sure it came out right.
This way I can deduplicate attachments. I know deduping attachments would provide significant space reduction.
I keep thinking there's already going to be an open-source system that does this.
But haven't found one, let me know if this rings a bell?
 
2:38 PM
@GeorgeBailey good luck... about time the big players had de-dup on their email database
 
@GeorgeBailey I think that was available in Novell, back in the day and MS Exchange still does some dedup. But with how prices of storage, even the expensive enterprise kind, has been dropping there I don't expect the open source community has much incentive to do much.
at least not in the application level. The accounting must be pretty non-trivial to get right. Maildir is nice and simple, also from a back-up and restore perspective
 
3:31 PM
@strugee We aren't that offensive when people aren't watching. That said, the other rooms are full of social justice warriors that get offended at the drop of a hat.
 
@GeorgeBailey The only open source system I'm aware of that does this is Citadel.
 
 
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you woke me up...
 
6:57 PM
@ColdT & @GeorgeBailey Microsoft had dedupe in Exchange for a very long time but have recently removed it. They have figures that suggest that (especially in this age of virtualisation and more, smaller databases) its cheaper in both terms of cost and resources to not dedupe in a mail storage database any more.
 
 
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8:12 PM
@PatoSáinz for today's SF? nonsense, all you need is 1)extensive knowledge, like how to install it, 2) snappy responses to people (like devops) who get thrown into IT positions and have to thrive, and 3) the ability to accept the fact hardly any of your high quality answers will be upvoted, ever, and you'll be the top SF user in no time
 
 
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9:48 PM
@Iain Nice campaign message.
I voted for you, for the lulz.
 
@Zoredache and therein lies the irony, people are reading it :)
 

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