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7:00 PM
@voretaq7 When I have to work on something of ours I'll usually shout out my door, "I'm scheduling an outage for XX beginning in 5 minutes!"
 
@ScottPack Sometimes I just don't tell anyone :-P
 
@voretaq7 Oh, I didn't say I waited for people to be around...
 
@Cole oh god, that software...
 
@ScottPack My luck people will hear
and then begins the hand-wringing and the fear of change
 
Heh, I scheduled our mail server to be down all weekend today to ensure people know
 
7:02 PM
followed by the "you never told me" bullshit that makes me print out reams of emails and drop them on desks.
 
since we happen to run on email too (yay email orders!)
 
Oh! Oh! Oh! Mister email-orders dude!
Do you make people email you credit card numbers?! :)
 
Nope, invoicing is done via purchase orders usually
all that stuff's handled by a 3rd party so we're not handling data like that here lol
 
@voretaq7 I refuse to accept credit card numbers by email unless it also contains the CVV. Otherwise I can't verify they have the card.
 
And the order's just a quote request anyway - since everything's made custom :P
 
7:05 PM
@ScottPack and the address.
Just so you can prove they didn't just steal someone's card.
 
hm, this umount command is hanging
fun
 
@voretaq7 Nah, I don't want sensitive information in my email.
 
@NathanC It's not finished....
 
For over 20 minutes? :P
 
@NathanC so the server has stamina.
 
7:07 PM
Oh...that explains it. I was still in one of the directories mounted by NFS
facepalm
 
Does anyone happen to know off the top of their head why cell phones don't have caller ID?
 
@KevinSoviero uhh wut?
my cellphone definitely shows me who's calling...
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Cell phones don't tell you anything other than the number... Land lines tell you the name and number.
 
oh, not here. your caller id is better than ours
 
@KevinSoviero Because cell phone companies don't share subscriber information
So verizon wouldn't know an at&t caller, for example
 
7:09 PM
@tombull89 Time to print some test pages!
 
It works with landlines because telephone companies do (hence phone books)
 
@NathanC Why not?
 
I dunno really. There's no financial gain from it most likely.
Plus, cellphones can cycle numbers pretty quickly especially with prepaid
 
@KevinSoviero If your landline is giving you more than number and region it's looking it up against some phone book, no reason your cell can't do that too.
 
@voretaq7 in the case of a landline it's the telephone company's phonebook
a cell phone only has its contact list
 
7:16 PM
@NathanC Depends on the landline. A lot of PBX systems scan something else before falling back to the data from the telco
In any case, both can be lied to (because they scan CID, not ANI)
 
yeah, or masked pretty easily
 
ANI includes the CLI (Caller Line Identity, the text displayed by Caller ID)
 
@ChrisS but ANI includes WAY more than CLI (including the billing info, which phone companies don't let you fake)
 
Until you throw VoIP into the mix, then all bets are off.
 
@KevinSoviero Depends on the generation of your cell technology. IIRC modern CDMA2000 and GSM and LTE all have facilities for including the Caller ID information.
 
7:19 PM
@MichaelHampton actually my VoIP provider doesn't let you supply your own ANI blocks anymore -- you can but they get replaced when it switches you to the PSTN
(they used to just pass whatever I gave them)
@ChrisS LTE definitely does - not sure about the various generations of GSM
 
@voretaq7 Mine still just passes whatever I send them. As long as it's one of the many numbers that I have on the account.
 
@voretaq7 Well... Yes, your Telco wouldn't let you fake it... But if you ARE the telco, other telco's just trust the info you provide.
 
@ChrisS it's pretty hard to become a telco these days :)
@MichaelHampton yeah that's how ours works now.
It used to literally pass whatever you gave it (I'm guessing they got into "some trouble" over that)
 
@voretaq7 Some website did it a few years ago.. Had a service where you could setup the call on the website (including payment) and it would call your phone, then call another party with whatever ANI you wanted.
 
@ChrisS I vaguely recall that site
 
7:21 PM
Honestly I've never tried to pass them a number that's not on the account. I wonder...
 
also I've used Google Voice for that too (not whatever data you want, but Google's data as opposed to yours)
@MichaelHampton Voicepulse accepts it and then switches it to your default number when you hit the PSTN.
 
I can pass out whatever I want, it gets overwritten. Used to allow us to set the CLI, I know that much. Called and got it changed so it was always correct (long story)
 
@ChrisS I think all the fields now have the same rule they applied to ANI ("Any number that you've got registered with us")
and I think that was to stop all the idiots sending out 3 and 4 digit origin numbers in Caller ID
 
Or 911
 
That moment when server-to-server transfers drop to below 400 KB/s...
 
7:31 PM
That moment when you're glad you're not @NathanC
3
 
:(
And it has 17 2 GB .zip files to transfer over
On the bright side, i can go home and let it finish so it'll be done when i come into work in the morning
hopefully
 
@NathanC you poor bitch :P
 
So I have a replication problem today. My target box is having cache installed, and that means half the cache is out of service during the procedure. We aren't expecting any exceptionally large write activity levels today (we asked around). What happens? A storage VMotion to mirrored disk. They didn't think that counted.
baleted to save your eyes, original was i.imgur.com/tamI1uv.gif
 
@Basil LOL
 
@Basil YAHOO IS STILL HIP AND/OR RELEVANT!
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7:44 PM
@voretaq7 patpat
 
@voretaq7 GIVE ME BACK MY TIMEMACHINE
 
@DennisKaarsemaker NO! ITS MY TARDIS!
 
@voretaq7 I had an argument with some [edit: older than Steve Buscemi] guy misusing memes on a FB group we both belong to. I'm half tempted to post his shit anonymously on cringepics or misusedmemes
 
What kind of idiot would steal a defective TARDIS?
 
7:45 PM
haha
My girlfriend is obsessed with Dr Who
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Bowties are cool
 
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Q: Installing virtualbox on linode

PilgrimI've followed the VirtualBox installation guide found here and have switched my Linode kernel to use 2.6.32-47-generic-pae using this guide, but I still keep getting the following error when I run sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup: Starting VirtualBox kernel modules ...failed! (Running VirtualBox...

 
@Cole exxxxxxcelent
 
So I heard you wanted to virtualize your virtualization...
 
@Cole You now have our permission to keep her.
 
7:47 PM
hey all
 
@MattBear it's the Matt Bear Cavalry!
 
@freiheit she's pretty hot too.
Likes beer and pretty nerdy - plus she puts up with me
 
im happy today :) simple, straight forward apache on ubuntu
 
@MattBear Nothing on Ubuntu is easy
 
7:50 PM
@voretaq7 compared to sharepoint?
 
@MattBear Sharepoint on Ubuntu?
 
@voretaq7 on anything
url rewrite vs. redirect for forcing http to https in apache, which method is better?
 
@MattBear A URL rewrite reduces to a redirect
Also: SSLRequireSSL FTW Motherfucker!
 
@voretaq7 but a rewrite uses rules, and just replaces "http" with "https" in the url?
 
@MattBear and how do you replace that URL and get the client to reissue its request on port 443 with ssl? You're getting a 3xx code either way
rewrite rules can be more versatile (if someone types http://example.com/secure/subsite it can detect that and redirect them where a redirect for http://example.com/secure/ wouldn't)
but if that's not a concern (and if you don't need mod_rewrite for other stuff) I'm a fan of the simple redirect -- less overhead
Every time you prematurely optimize, Knuth kills a kitten. so many dead kittens
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7:59 PM
@voretaq7 ok, thanks that cleared that up a bit
 
And if there's anything @voretaq7 knows about it's dealing with head, whether it be over or under.
 
@ScottPack $this->getHead(); // Such perversions are Linked Lists...
 
$this->getTail(); // When you're done with the head...
 
$this->getSandwich(); // When you're done with the tail...
 
sudo make me a sandwich
 
8:09 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker ok. your login group is now sandwich
 
@DennisKaarsemaker error unwilling to accept commands, commencing volatile verbose log spew
 
8:39 PM
How often do you mods use the ban hammer?
 
Depends on how often @Wesley shows up.
 
If there isn't already there should be logic to pop up a "this looks like a shopping question, are you certain you want to ask this?"
! ban hammer
 
@ewwhite Couple times a week. Currently 2 people in week bans. Nobody in month bans. 1 in year ban. And a dozen in "longer" bans.
@TheCleaner Good idea - figure out how to implement it and send it over to mSO.
 
I seem to recall seeing a spammer who was temporarily suspended until 2026 for promotional content...
 
@MichaelHampton There's a handful with 10 year suspensions, so up to 2023.
 
8:44 PM
Close enough.
Meta Stack Overflow is currently offline for maintenance
 
@ChrisS I'm just a lowly IT Manager...I can only make suggestions not actually implement them.
 
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Q: We need to be a little less hostile

SLaksI've noticed a distressing tendency for questions that seem basic or overly short to be immediately closed and downvoted into oblivion. Case in point: Check if element is visible using JavaScript Within a minute of being asked, this question received 12 downvotes and was closed as "not a real q...

Apparently we aren't the only ones
 
So I see!
 
Is there a way to hide my e-mail address from other users? I can see it on my SE profiles so I'm thinking other people can see it as well... I'd just rather keep my e-mail address private and shared only with the admin of the site. :)
 
@Shayna I don't see your email address.
 
8:54 PM
@MichaelHampton Thank-you! It was quite distressing lol! I thought everyone could see my e-mail! Phew!
 
@MichaelHampton I think it's simple burnout. It's much easier to tolerate crap in waves than it is a constant never-ending influx.
I'm sure most of the sites that get a reasonable number of questions per day are the same.
 
I wonder if the breadth of scope is also a contributor. It seems not unreasonable that a narrowly defined site would have less crap content if only because the people who know enough to narrow themselves down to that site would end up producing better quality.
 
I've thought for some time that SO is too large and needs to split up along some dividing line.
 
9:08 PM
@ScottPack I think someone had mentioned a New Question Wizard for low-rep users. Which would basicly guide them through creating a question and disallow the most blatantly low quality crap. I think it was nixed on the theory that it would scare too many new users away.
 
At first blush that seems like it's too onerous, but the UX would decide that.
 
@ChrisS that reminds me... I got a 10 year suspension on something back about 10 years ago.... Dont remember what or why, I should try to find out and go back...
 
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A: Why don't I have the "Mortarboard" badge?

Jarrod DixonYes, there is a bug. On the day in question, you had gained 200 points, but had one answer with a downvote (net rep: 198). The kicker is that you responsibly deleted this answer, which refunded the -2 from the downvote; however, the badge logic doesn't take this refund into account. It was a...

Oh, this is going to make things easier.
 
9:27 PM
@voretaq7 It's more fun !
@ewwhite @ward @wesleydavid app.strava.com/activities/55553023 a bit breezy tonight
 
@Iain hiss!!!
 
I don't think the 48mph max is correct
my bike computer says 40.2 which is probably better
 

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