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9:00 PM

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Q: Multiple ServerRoot directives in single apache

i came across a apache httpd 2.2 configuration recently in which multiple ServerRoot-directives were defined, each followed by individual prefork Settings. Sort of like this: ServerRoot root1 <IfModule prefork.c> StartServers 5 MinSpareServers 5 MaxSpareServers 10 Max...

How'd this guy get 3 rep and 1 rep at the same time?

Chris S

@MichaelHampton What'cha talking about Willis?

Michael Hampton

@ChrisS That button you pressed while you thought I wasn't looking.

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton so you never happily use GUIs?

Michael Hampton

@voretaq7 Almost never.

Chris S

It does seem unfair that he gets to keep the +2 for an edit when he was editing his own question.

Michael Hampton

9:02 PM

In the long run I don't think it'll matter much.

voretaq7

@ChrisS your bug report will be ignored in the order in which it was received.

pauska

trying again - anyone here have the vmware converter boot image lying around? The latest version was available with vCenter 4.0 as an extra download

Adrian

Gotta love Devs. Astonishingly self-impressed and Astonishingly unable to see beyond the horizon of their own application.

pauska

I'm getting desparate here...

ewwhite

@pauska Why do you need it?

pauska

9:05 PM

@ewwhite cold clone of a domain controller

Zoredache

@pauska just preinstall the drivers, and use ghost or something.

Michael Hampton

@Adrian I had a dev tell me today that I need to tune the server before he even thinks about optimizing his bloated web app.

Zoredache

Just treat it as if your are cloning from physical to physical... Ignore all that VM stuff.

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton someone sanity-check my comment on his edit. I'm 90% sure I'm right, but too lazy to test :P

@MichaelHampton tell him it's already tuned.

pauska

@Zoredache we don't have ghost

voretaq7

9:08 PM

(he's a dev, what the fuck does he know? You could have 5-second sleeps in every syscall...)

Michael Hampton

@voretaq7 It WAS already tuned. And it's Drupal, which is notoriously bloated. What can you do?

voretaq7

@pauska use a boot CD and just dd the hard drive into an image file?

Zoredache

@pauska Well use your favorite FOSS cloning app? partimage/clonezilla or something like that?

voretaq7

(once you do that it's reduced to an already-solved problem)

pauska

I'd rather use something that I actually know works, hence why I am asking if you have the image or not

Joel E Salas

9:12 PM

@MichaelHampton PHP-FPM with APC. +200% performance

Zoredache

@pauska I know that method has worked for me in the past, and you did say you were getting desperate.

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas I'm already running php-fpm with APC. And memcached.

Zoredache

But no, I don't have the vmware stuff.

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton Then you're done!

Michael Hampton

Pretty much. So I found out the problem was he had a bunch of developer modules loaded on the production Drupal...

Zoredache

9:13 PM

If you want to do it a supported way you could fire up your Window PE disk, and then follow MS direction to create a VHD. The convert that to a VMDK.

blogs.technet.com/b/chrad/archive/2011/09/01/…

pauska

yeah, we don't have SCCM installed, otherwise that would be a great choice

I guess I'll try clonezilla and see where it goes.. I have a bad feeling about drivers though

Zoredache

What OS is it? 2003, 2008, or something else? 2008 shouldn't have any problems at all.

2003 may be a bit tricky.

pauska

2008 R2

yeah well it should be able to switch over chipset/storage drivers if I chose the correct ones

Adrian

@MichaelHampton Yeah. This one decided that our ticket system needs to be totally restructured to suit their particular aesthetic sense. Nevermind that prefacing their product name makes perfect sense on their problem types, but stuffing a generic 'network' in front of things like ID Cards, Phones, and Staff Changes is idiotic

Of course, the boss won't tell them No unless he can blame me for being recalcitrant.

Iain

@voretaq7 typos

Zoredache

9:26 PM

@Adrian is that for subjects or some kind of billing component? Sounds like they are trying to implement a taxonomy, in a place where they really should have some kind of tagging system.

Joel E Salas

@Zoredache A few jobs back they insisted on having BUCKETS. No matter what a ticket was, it belonged in a BUCKET.

There was a BUCKET for each country we service, then a SUB BUCKET for each department in each country, then SUB SUB BUCKETS for each type of ticket there could be in a department

This resulted in a drop-down menu with maybe 70 choices when you chose ticket type.

pauska

"can't load firmware file" for my NIC from 2008

fucking linux.

Zoredache

Let me guess, broadcom? If yes, then I blame broadcom, for having horrible nics.

pauska

yes

no, it's just that the broadcom firmware doesn't comply with GPL

WesleyDavid

@JoelESalas Could have been worse. Could have been 71 choices.

pauska

9:33 PM

I see that clonezilla also has a ubuntu-based version, perhaps that is a little less anal about GPL

Zoredache

@pauska no, probably not.

I think there is a special disk you can find with non-free firmware for Ubuntu.

pauska

@Zoredache it's listed here: packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/all/linux-firmware/filelist

but then again, those are packages

Zoredache

I didn't think they had included that in the standard livecd, I could be wrong though.

Michael Hampton

So you'll want to install the linux-firmware package to make your crappy NIC work. The checklist is: 1. Install a non-crappy NIC temporarily. 2. apt-get install linux-firmware...wait, just stop after #1.

pauska

I'm sorry, but the world isn't as black/white

this is a proliant server that comes with these broadcom nics built in

Michael Hampton

9:37 PM

Oh, in that case, you ask @ewwhite

pauska

I understand that firmwares should be free etc, but try to look at this stuff from a professional point of view

Zoredache

@pauska You could dd the image of your machine to a USB disk, and then attach that to something else?

MikeyB

@pauska Oh! I have a ready-made solution for you... hold on... You can just append the the drivers to the initrd… I may have an image....

Zoredache

Build a WindowsPE and then use imagex?

ewwhite

???

What's wrong?

Michael Hampton

9:38 PM

@ewwhite HP Proliant, Broadcom NIC, installing Ubuntu, no NIC firmware.

pauska

@MichaelHampton this was debian

trying ubuntu now

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton What type of ProLiant?

server model?

what do you need to do to it?

MikeyB

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Q: Adding files to initrd makes linux not be able to read it

I'm using clonezilla-1.2.12 and need to add the Broadcom firmware to the initrd so it can netboot. (clonezilla is debian-based and debian no longer includes the firmware blobs as they're non-free. Naturally then clonezilla doesn't either.) (I can't use the Ubuntu-based clonezilla as Ubuntu has ...

linux initrd clonezilla

pauska

it's a 360 G5, I need to P2V it cold

Zoredache

He wants to do a cold p2v, but doesn't have the Vmware tool. It is running Windows 2008r2 currently.

MikeyB

9:39 PM

^^^ solves your problem.

Michael Hampton

@pauska RHEL and clones already have the appropriate NIC firmware included.

pauska

and vmware have removed every trace on earth when it comes to the converter boot cd

MikeyB

Vacation time! Later all!

voretaq7

@Iain Complain to Theo that as a commonwealth country AngryCanadianSSH should accept spellings from the mother country!

pauska

nevermind, the ubuntu clonezilla image has the firwmare

MikeyB

9:41 PM

@pauska As long as you don't have a 5708

pauska

@ewwhite you don't have the converter boot iso lying around by any chance?

Iain

@voretaq7 I think @Zoredache must have copy+pasted from my question as he spelled it incorrectly too in the comments

Zoredache

@Iain no, I just can't spell.

Iain

@Zoredache me neither - I blame ITA

ewwhite

@pauska will this server boot?

why does it have to be a cold clone?

pauska

9:46 PM

domain controller

Adrian

@Zoredache It's Bugzilla. It's got a half-assed tagging system that works well for Dev projects but not for customer-facing support tickets.

Iain

Sweden, it's 1971, a man drives into a tree, what caused the accident ?

Zoredache

@Iain the alcohol?

Iain

@Zoredache nope

@Zoredache Just watching the first episode of Red Dwarf X

Zoredache

10:03 PM

How is it so far? I haven't liked the last couple seasons.

Joel E Salas

Is there indeed a native OSX client for vSphere? NOT web client?

ewwhite

varnishd[11258]: Child (11259) not responding to CLI, killing it.

Iain

@Zoredache so far it seems much better than it was

ewwhite

@JoelESalas kinda coming

What does this varnish message meannnnn?

Mark Henderson

10:37 PM

WHY DO PEOPLE DOWNLOADS SD VERSIONS OF SHOWS

48 minutes compressed into 380Mb can never be a good thing

"First world problems" I guess

Michael Hampton

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Q: Setting up a home web server, how to map my domain?

I want to set up a LAMP server at home. I have a domain name registered. How can I map that domain name so that when people type it, it comes to my server ? I know that I need to enter DNS in my domain name account, but how can I register that DNS server so that my domain calls it and then get re...

lamp linux

KILL KILL KILL

Mark Henderson

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A: What is the most rampant duplicate on Stack Exchange sites?

On Server Fault, it's definitely "How do I host my server from home": http://serverfault.com/questions/66947/how-to-host-website-from-my-home-adsl http://serverfault.com/questions/4658/what-are-some-pitfalls-of-hosting-a-website-from-home http://serverfault.com/questions/127478/hosting-multiple...

ewwhite

11:02 PM

"Michael Baxter, the network engineer at Verizon Wireless who submitted hundreds of fraudulent service requests to Cisco, has been sentenced to four years in federal prison. Baxter was also ordered to pay $2.3 million in restitution to Cisco Systems. Instead of placing the replacement parts into service in the Verizon Wireless network, Baxter took the parts home and sold them for his own profit. He used the money to buy cars, jewelry and multiple cosmetic surgeries for his girlfriend."

Zoredache

I cast an off-topic close, but perhaps other people want to cast some close as a duplicate votes? serverfault.com/questions/434987/…

I wish you could change your vote type after the fact.

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Gotta upgrade, bro

Zoredache

@ewwhite how can you submit hundreds of service requests before they start investigating you has somehow being really hard on equipment.

Or increasing the prices of your service contracts.

Michael Hampton

11:20 PM

If that's the #1 asked question, we should have a canonical question with the "Don't" answer..

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Q: What are some pitfalls of hosting a website from home?

So, it's not terribly difficult to host a website from home. It doesn't seem to make sense to pay a 3rd party to host some low traffic websites, so in some cases hosting from your home computer makes sense .But maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. Here are some of the pitfalls I can think of:...

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Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Hahaha man I probably approved a bunch of those SR's when I worked at Cisco

I used to just approve anything that looked vaguely appropriate

@Zoredache Companies like Verizon have full blanket fixed price contracts. they get everything they want, no questions asked. For Telstra, which is big, but not as big as Verizon, I used to ship replacement PIX's and supervisors on a daily basis

As soon as their account comes up, maximum eligability on 4-hr shows up in red and you don't even bother checking past cursory ID checks, you jsut hit approve

Zoredache

11:37 PM

@MarkHenderson Right, but surely some bean counter somewhere runs a report or some kind of statistical analysis that correlates the number cost of the replacements with the number of devices owned or something.

Mark Henderson

@Zoredache Maybe, but 100 devices a year against that guys name would dissapear in the flood of genuine replacements

Michael Hampton

So, CPAN has no 'uninstall' command. How, then, can I install a CPAN module (that isn't provided by the system packages) safely and maintainably? I.e. I should be able to remove it if there's a problem, or easily update it if a security fix comes out later, and automate the whole process.

Don't answer yet! What I really want is to improve this question so it doesn't get closed as "not constructive" if I ask it on the main site.

Zoredache

debian.pkgs.cpan.org?

or cpan2rpm?

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton - I updated that list with a few more ;)

Michael Hampton

@Zoredache Ooooo, I hadn't seen that before.

If I deploy on EL6 then I not only need to build about 75 modules, I also have to use something other than the system perl, which is about 1 revision too old. If I deploy on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS then I only need to build 3 modules. Or maybe one.

@MarkHenderson When I do a search, I usually sort by votes when looking for a question to possibly take over as a canonical question or duplicate target.

Mark Henderson

11:53 PM

Man talk about security. To get on to our new clients RDP RemoteWeb access you need to:

1. Log on to extranet using username, password and RSA Token
2. Log on to Citrix XenApp portal using a different username and password
3. Enter your credentials for the Citrix XenApp session
4. Enter your credentials for the actual server you're logging on to

@MichaelHampton There shouldn't be a canonical for hosting from home. They should all be shot in the head with a .50cal

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson That's overly "secure". So much so that anybody who has to do that more than once is going to look for ways to subvert it.

@MarkHenderson A .50 cal will break your wrist. A .45 ACP hollow point is more than sufficient to the task.

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton I have all of the passwords saved in KeePass, so at each step (except for the RSA one) I just higlight the appropriate entry and press Ctrl+V, and it auto-types the login procedure

@MichaelHampton Ok so I know nothing about guns except that a .50cal is a big motherfucker :p

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Get yourself to a gun club.

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton 12 month waiting for a gun license here. I sense deja-vu :p

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Yes, but you can still be a probationary member of the gun club during the 12 month wait

Mark Henderson

11:58 PM

@MichaelHampton I don't really have a huge interest in guns to be honest

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Have your wife join the gun club then. She'll enjoy it.