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9:00 PM
We should probably CW that DNS question since it became a playground :)
 
that's just amazing guys ;)
 
I'm going to go blind straining to see slight variations in the color of a half-dozen pixels as I try to figure out who the hell I'm talking to or who's in the room.
 
@WesleyDavid, you could just look at the names.
 
if only there were another clue...
 
we can all
Just post longer
messages so the
gravatar is bigger.
 
9:01 PM
DAMMNIT Guys, if only we thought of this on sysadmin day
 
Feeling out of place in the room list
 
You vote-inflating bastards :p
 
Fuck SysAdmin Day, this is Chopper3 Day.
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@Zoredache wait, we have NAMES? I thought those pixels ware there to hold my beer!
 
It's more of a circle jerk, actually
 
9:02 PM
@Jacob on sysadmin day we'd have all had to become sysadmin1138 memes
 
well, the guy that asked that question got a nice unexpected rep gift, heh
 
@Zoredache I'm illiterate. Thus I am a Windows admin. I have to avoid CLIs.
 
@ShaneMadden consider it a counterbalance for all the -1s he'll get for bad grammar / lack of clarity
(and a reward for being the whipping boy of "Yes, that's how the internet works dear." answers)
 
Merry holidays to that user...
 
@voretaq7 not a one so far, heh
 
9:03 PM
@ShaneMadden he had one, and we all piled on to "correct" it
it seems to have gone away now though
 
@voretaq7 +9 / -0 right now - someone must have changed it
 
ya he's +10/-0 now
 
Sam
He's going to be very confused
 
he started that way
 
@Sam I think he already was.
 
9:05 PM
I piled onto the 2 servers using same name servers question
 
Sam
@ShaneMadden true, differently confused then
 
@WesleyDavid Is that like 2computers1dns ?
 
haha
 
@ScottPack If by that you mean "Does cPanel DNS management make me vomit into my cup" then yes.
 
@ScottPack 2 clients 1 server socket?
 
9:06 PM
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A: 2 servers using same name servers?

MikeyBCertainly! If each server needed a server of its own, you'd end up with a horrific sort of pyramid scheme where the servers at the bottom wouldn't have any servers to call upon.

 
@ScottPack: The Internet is a Series of Tubes...
 
You should downvote me for not using a Choppertar
 
@voretaq7 I'm trying to translate that into DVDA but I can't quite figure it out.
 
@MikeyB BOO! No choptar. The black helicopters will be there shortly.
 
@MikeyB dude
 
9:07 PM
DOWNVOTE TO OBLIVION!!
Muahahaha!
 
I updated mine, I'm just waiting for it to apply
 
Sam
I'll ignore the "Very Low Quality" flag on that question :)
 
ah, there
 
You bastards, you need to put a downvote reason :p
 
There are no Very Low Quality questions, only Very Low Quality people
 
9:08 PM
I'm having a hard time containing a fit of giggles
 
There you go Wesley
I'm not containing it whatsoever
 
my wife's SO confused right now
 
@MikeyB we won't downvote you, we'll just look at you scornfully
SCORN
 
Yay @BartSilverstrim
 
@voretaq7 Oh?
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A: 2 servers using same name servers?

MikeyBCertainly! If each server needed a server of its own, you'd end up with a horrific sort of pyramid scheme where the servers at the bottom wouldn't have any servers to call upon.

 
9:08 PM
@voretaq7 ಠ_ಠ
 
well I won't downvote you :)
 
I will however star that giraffe.
 
Mikey...must..fix...his...gravatar...
 
Right then. It's after 5 for this state employee.
 
9:10 PM
@ScottPack Teamsters local 144 UNITE!
Of all the witticisms I've shared with you all and the most starred thing I do is a picture of a giraffe pointing at a duck. I hate you people. ಠ_ಠ
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@ScottPack 5? y'all don't knock off at 4 for summer hours?
GIRAFFE NEEDS MOAR STARZ!
 
someone with a copy of photoshop handy, stick @MikeyB's head in the car and edit that into the answer
 
Actually we get out at three...
I'm two hours here watching this epic unfold.
 
@BartSilverstrim and of course invoicing the state for overtime.
 
@ShaneMadden I've got a reciprocating saw. Let's just take Mikey's head for a trip to England.
 
9:13 PM
@Voretaq7: Nope...unpaid.
But just taking up space and electricity right now.
 
@ShaneMadden lol nice
 
@BartSilverstrim BLASPHEMY!
 
@ShaneMadden Put it on the bear instead
 
@ShaneMadden I would but I gotta run
 
@WesleyDavid Well, that works too.
 
9:13 PM
@WesleyDavid Reminds me of Very Bad Things.
 
@Nixphoe and @MikeyB and @wfaulk and @ThomasMcDonald and @ShaneMadden - Choptars or GTFO!
 
all I've got handy is MS paint, heh
 
I'm not worthy
 
@WesleyDavid mine is updated
 
@ShaneMadden that's fine. we'll wait. (6 months later...)
 
user30
9:14 PM
@WesleyDavid To be honest I only came in here because of the choptars on the chat homepage
 
@ShaneMadden pixlr.com/editor
 
user30
however
 
@Nixphoe I retract my aggression.
 
@ThomasMcDonald sniffle - you only love us for our choppertars
 
@WesleyDavid wooo
 
9:15 PM
This is ServerFault. Choptars or GTFO.
 
Chopper meme or bust!
 
@RebeccaChernoff is missing all the fun with her idling ways. One of the SX folks will have to send a transcript over :)
 
This has truly been the most epic, non-mammary centered event this chat has ever, and most likely will ever, hosted.
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Can someone who can change the room subtitle
"Choppertars or GTFO"
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Sam
room topic changed to The Comms Room: Choppertars or GTFO
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9:17 PM
Someone with photoshop skillz should help this guy out with an appropriate avatar
user image
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Sam
done
 
Cheers @Sam
 
Mary had a little lamb
She put it in her wok.
She served it up with fresh green beans
And half a pint of stock
 
Good to see that the "Post Boobie(s), get a star" axiom still holds true.
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Logged out and in to refresh the Choppery goodness.
 
9:19 PM
Mary had a little lamb.
Keyword: Had. Fluffy little bastard tastes great though.
 
"Tasted" keyword: "tasted"
 
I just filled in the Image Information for all the images in the Rogues Gallery and disappointingly you don't get the names when you hover over them :(
 
As in, I'm now hunting for its brother.
 
@WesleyDavid Whaddya mean? holds up lamb stew
 
How does one "hold up" stew? What magicks do you possess?
 
9:20 PM
@Iain I noticed that too.
 
@voretaq7 Boobies!
 
I have to install somesoftware onto a windows test server on EC2, someone put it to micro and it's over an hour to get iis up
 
@WesleyDavid anti-grav plating. Doesn't everyone's office have it?
 
@voretaq7 Wow, can I work at your place? Any positions open?
 
@Jacob This is why the cloud sucks, reason 1234567.
 
9:21 PM
We need a time limit. All users that do not have Choppertars by 00:00 UTC are permabanned.
 
Mary had a little lamb. The RSPCA were after her, and prison ensued.
 
k-line the non-Choppertars. Would we really miss them? I mean, really?
 
This has been a truly wonderful afternoon, and I must take my leave to go home. My drive runneth over with screenshots...
 
@voretaq7 you also edited it to add your name while I was doing everyones -I had to start over
 
@Jacob I wasn't aware you could run Windows on micro instances
I always use a Large.
 
9:22 PM
serverfault.com/questions/297756/… is at the top of the stack exchange hit count
 
Mary had a little lamb. The lamb had prions. Mary's entire stock had to be destroyed and the fields purged with fire.
Mary is now living on subsidies in the dust bowl.
 
@ahaaa @Zoredache has joined the choppertars !
 
@Iain just revert my edit and re add it on top of yours - easier, no?
 
@TomOConnor I'm not sure, but IIS was taking forever to install
 
@Iain, I did a while ago, you just hadn't refreshed/reloaded.
 
9:23 PM
Someone hook Squilly up with a choppertar
 
I can't wait to see if something comes of this later tonight or tomorrow...
 
@BartSilverstrim Like a stern telling off from Jeff and Joel?
 
@Zoredache avatar refreshes are kinda spotty - sometimes they work right away & other times you need to reload
 
...that could be interesting too.
@tomoconnor: think they noticed? :-)
 
Out of curiosity, how many "stern tellings" have the goings-on in here resulted in?
Or are Jeff & Joel pretty much at the "Sigh, shake your head and walk away looking disappointed" stage with SF Chat?
 
9:25 PM
I don't think I've seen Joel on ever. Seen Jeff on chat once.
 
@voretaq7 we were editing at the same time so I couldn't do anything as you had saved
 
Good $DEITY how funny would that be to have this mentioned on the podcast O_o
 
@Iain it doesn't show you a three-way merge to resolve the conflict? BRING ME A DEVELOPER!
 
@voretaq7 I look at chat like the padded cell of ServerFault. Plenty go in. No one comes out.
 
@WesleyDavid I've seen Jeff on the main SF site a fair bit
 
9:25 PM
@WesleyDavid I saw joel when george edison and I found the store 5 weeks early.
 
he even asks questions.
 
!!! I have fully used my star allowance for the day
 
@voretaq7 how many is that?
 
I need my allowance raised!
Damnit! it's just like when I tried to buy that supercomputing cluster to use as a workstation!
 
@voretaq7 There's a star allowance?
I know there's a Star Alliance..
 
9:27 PM
@TomOConnor ya - 10 or 20 I think, I forget.
 
aren't they an insurance company?
 
Farewell everyone. See you all soon! /me fires up Paddington taxi and chugs away...
 
I like how @Iain reversed the names on the pictures:
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A: Paddington Bear Choppertar

Iain Sir. I could not help but be struck by the similarity between Chopper3 and Evan Anserson. I wonder if they are related. Yours etc, Iain With apologies to Private Eye's lookalikes

 
@TomOConnor NEVER MENTION THEM AGAIN. I consulted for that Angry German Airline.
 
@voretaq7 Better than White Star Line.
 
9:28 PM
@voretaq7 Lufthansa?
 
@voretaq7 Isn't Angry German a bit redundant?
 
They built one boat, years ago, and now nobody'll touch them.
 
(actually they were a great client. Shit broke, you fixed it, you got them on a conference call and explained what broke and how much it would cost to fix it, they said "Do it")
 
@WesleyDavid that's a Private Eye magazine meme
 
@WesleyDavid Angry Flying Germans.
 
9:28 PM
@WesleyDavid those kinds of remarks make me really mad
jüst kidding (:
 
@TomOConnor Perfectly fine ship. It's just a little split in half and lying on the ocean floor - it's still good! It's still good!
 
@StefanoPalazzo But you see, I'm an American. Ignorance is my forte, offending people my talent.
=D
 
@voretaq7 It's a bit dirty, it's still good! It's still good!
 
@WesleyDavid check the link I provided in that answer
 
9:30 PM
relented
 
And actually they didn't care so much about Star Alliance / Star Partners. They only became Angry Flying Germans when their cuslink servers would go wonky and they couldn't let people/cargo off the plane because customs was displeased.
@WesleyDavid I thought electing dysfunctional mental deficients to high office was our talent?
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By the by, the FAA still doesn't exist. And congress went on vacation leaving it like that. Everyone feels safer now, right?
 
to be fair, air traffic controllers are still there
just, you know, no one else
 
@wfaulk yes, and some FAA safety inspectors are dedicated to public safety and are actually going to work and traveling on their own dime with hopes of being reimbursed.
 
Losers. Haven't they read any Ayn Rand?
:P
 
@wfaulk I'm wondering at what point ATC will run out of money and if/how they'll emergency-authorize funding for that.
I think the only way to make the american public wake up and see the dysfunction in the way the FAA / national airspace system are being mismanaged by Congress is to shut it down for a while because of congressional ineptitude
 
9:35 PM
clearly they just need to break the ATC union.
Oh, wait
 
Sam
Right, goodnight fellow choppertards
 
@wfaulk added to the gallery
 
@wfaulk it will solve the problem for about 30-40 years. Of course then they'll all go and retire like the law says they have to...
 
laters @Sam
 
right guys - I've had an excellent day thanks to the whole epic/vmware/choppertars things thank you - going to go and spend some time with the kids - thanks again
 
9:39 PM
:)
nini!
 
@Chopper3 sleep tight ...
 
@Chopper3 adios
 
@Chopper3 Later, fearless leader.
 
I'm off to bed too.
Quite a lot of travelling tomorrow
 
@TomOConnor where away ?
 
9:41 PM
Later fellow choppertars
 
@Iain Liverpool to see an old friend
I'm currently in Malvern
so it's a fairly long trek
 
2.5 HoursMalvern to Liverpool - just over the water from me
 
@Iain grin
 
@TomOConnor on a Sunday afternoon it can be as little as 2 hours - depends on traffic
 
I waas going by Train.
I wonder if there's any paddington rides I can find in l'pool, or anywhere on the way
We could start a paddington ride tracking site.
 
9:45 PM
@TomOConnor ah well, you could grow a beard then
 
paddingtonrides.stackexchange.com - I'm heading over to Area51 right now. Who's with me?!
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@Iain I have a beard. Well, designer stubble.
 
I have a feeling that if we weren't already in danger of getting mod-smacked by Jeff and Joel, taking this to Area51 would probably seal the deal. So, that's a plus, right?
I mean, if you're going over the cliff, might as well floor the accelerator and crank the tunes, right?
 
@WesleyDavid "Welcome to our Q&A for the locations, variations, do-it-yourself instructions, schematics, maintenance, and photography of Paddington Bear rides"
 
9:51 PM
@ShaneMadden Better than what I had just written
 
I think we need to all join a few other rooms so we can spread this thing around.
 
@Zoredache has to be done en masse though
 
I think we need a few more people in on this.
 
is there a mSO room ?
 
@Holocryptic @Hobodave @jColeBrand @Caleb and @RebeccaChernoff Need to get in on it.
 
9:54 PM
what's "choppertar"?
 
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Q: Paddington Bear Choppertar

Kyle BrandtMany of our top users seem to have avatars with a picture of themselves in a car with what appears to me to be Paddington Bear: So what is the story behind this?

 
figured I might as well join in with my real pic :)
wouldn't have taken so long if real work hadn't suddenly intervened
/me shakes fist
 
We really should do that A51 proposal
 
@ShaneMadden oh brother :(
 
Worse case with a throw away account
 
9:57 PM
anyone willing to help me understand how system select works, or should I "gtfo"?
 
@WesleyDavid you in on an A51 proposal?
 
I was going to, but decided not to.
@ChristianSciberras Ask away, but things suddenly got quiet in here so not sure if you'll have much of an audience.
 
@WesleyDavid I'll do it on a throw away
 
OK, so, I'm using PHP to get the STDOUT of a program run from PHP.
 
@ChristianSciberras you may get directed to the main site so your question and it's answers get captured
 
10:00 PM
Apparently, I need to make use of select.
Now, without getting into the PHP details, I'd like to first and foremost understand how select() works.
Documentation is beyond scarce, even pitiful if you ask me.
 
Yeah, I don't think the SQL or PHP gurus are in here right now. =(
 
It doesn't relate to SQL lol
it's about pipes. Imagine the following:

`fread($stream, 80);` but it actually has 40 characters
 
@Christian the select syscall?
 
@MichaelLowman Correct.
@WesleyDavid What select does (should?) is to wait until something could be read.
@MichaelLowman I'm really tired in trying to get this to work.
 
@ChristianSciberras, I assume you have read linux.die.net/man/2/select?
 
10:04 PM
@ChristianSciberras I only know about as much as is in the manpage
 
@Zoredache I might have skimmed through it.
Been trying to tackle this issue for months.
Granted, it ain't top priority, but it's taking a lot of time.
 
What are you doing anyway...
 
Anyhow, I'll give the manpage another look...
 
Or to put it differently, why do you think you need to use select()?
 
Long story short: I'm trying to read a program's STDOUT in PHP. Without select (PHP: stream_select) the reading blocks indefinitely.
I got it to work in very specific conditions, but it's not really stable.
I can configure the read length, and it currently works perfectly as long as the total being read is not a multiple of the read length (aka buffer size).
 
10:10 PM
@MichaelLowman rogues gallery updated with your 'real' choppertar
 
@ChristianSciberras, I am a bit confused by your question in that question.
You are asking about seeing stdin.
you don't see stdin, you send it.
If you have nothing to send, then you don't do anything with it.
 
LOL: '@ChrisMuench: Did these clowns actually answer your question? – Caleb 48 mins ago'
 
rawr!
 
I can see @CodingHorror now crying at his computer: "This isn't what I meant to happen! I was just trying to make the world a better place!"
 
Man, what a pain it was trying to edit that pic...
 
10:28 PM
@Holocryptic nice!
 
Looks like I missed out on the fun, though sad face
 
@Holocryptic, shouldn't the person be inside the car?
 
@Holocryptic good one!
 
@Holocryptic Definitely still put an answer on that question
 
Done and done
@Zoredache No, Paddington is doing a dirty drive by pedophile.
 
10:30 PM
@Holocryptic welcome to the rogues gallery
 
Huzzah!
 
Who's the dude next to holocryptic on the left?
ninja!
 
Ha!
 
@WesleyDavid Left is @wfaulk right is inception
 
@Zoredache Plus my GIMP skills are horrible
 
10:39 PM
@TomOConnor luls
 
I have done made the requisite changes to be accepted as a suitable member of the community.
Hrm.
 
I hate the internet and wish it would die.
 
@WesleyDavid why, are you playing BGP whack-a-mole right now, too?
 
user image
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I know I'm late to the party and all... but you know... working. :p
 
@WesleyDavid why
 
10:46 PM
The internet is evil. I want to run away and be a bike messenger. Never touch a PC again. Carpenter in the wet months.
 
Man, I'm actually going to have to read the name of the people talking
 
@WesleyDavid live off the land, i'd say.
 
Speaking of. Off to dinner. Back soonish.
 
The VMWare monster. Nice!
 
@MikeyB lol, nice. I remember seeing some shirts with similar on the announcement day
 
11:00 PM
Oh shit. Didn't see the room summary...
 
@jscott Your execution will be swift and brutal.
 
@MikeyB A reader of el Reg I take it?
@WesleyDavid brb.....
 
@jscott Yep. It also helps that the article link is starred over there: ↗
 
@voretaq7 I'll have you know that we are fully dedicated employees. Who have been informed that official business hours are 8-5.
 
Funny how that awful question is the hottest thing on SE right now
 
11:15 PM
Let's pretend he was our 100,000th customer and not worry about it.
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@ScottPack Well, his user number is 71770, so if you interpret it backwards as octal you get 4047. Raise 40 to the 47th power, sum the digits and you get 151 which is a palindrome. That's special enough.
 
@MikeyB little bit of a stretch, but i'll take it.
@MikeyB I mean, palindromes are where it's at.
 
@MikeyB Did you pull a muscle with that one?
 
oh speaking of that guy
 
Not so much.
>>> 07717
4047
>>> sum([int(x) for x in str(40 ** 47)])
151
 
11:22 PM
he accepted @BartSilverstrim's answer
 
I'm still not entirely sure I ever got around to what his real question was.
 
It's a little unclear.
"Did you have any reason, any reason at all, to think that wouldn't work?"
 
Was he trying to put records from both systems in one DNS server, or was he wanting to use a single DNS server as the resolver for both systems?
 
@ScottPack I interpreted it as, "can one DNS server handle more than one client?"
probably not quite what he meant, but more amusing.
 
I'm sure it's not what he meant… but it's what he asked.
 
11:26 PM
@MikeyB Yup. Since he's talking about cpanel, I guess he probably wants to host two zones.
those cpanel and plesk questions usually rot, don't they? I don't think any regulars mess with that stuff too much..
 
@ShaneMadden That was the assumption under which I answered.
@ShaneMadden Why would an IT professional ever have experience with either of those?
 
@ScottPack Unless you're on the other end of cpanel. (i.e. providing it, not using it)
 
@ScottPack I guess it'd be justifiable if it was a service they provided to clients
 
@ShaneMadden String em up!
 
11:49 PM
I have come to a definite conclusion: I suck.
 
@WesleyDavid, how did you come to that conclusion?
 

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