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9:18 AM
killed - they did the same yesterday too
 
cheers
 
10:01 AM
Is it just me or has the chat-link vanished from the main page?
Weird, it's there in the HTML
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<a href="http://chat.stackexchange.com">chat</a> |
But since I updated to FF 8.0 it's gone :(
 
@BartDeVos same for me using Opera
 
I think it has something to do with the "new" blog
since I don't have it on other SE sites
 
it's really gone, the HTML you posted is from the footer
 
Right
see it now
 
Blog (new) replaces 'Chat' only when there's a new post.
I think, anyway. Now that I look, it still seems to be there even though the 'New' is gone for me.
Perhaps it's just fixed to the age of the post.
 
10:09 AM
When a new blog is posted for a site the chat link gets replaced by the blog link for a while. When a SE blog is posted the meta.SF chat link gets changed
 
@Iain Thanks :)
 
so it's a bit like half-duplex then - it's sign saying when we should talk and when we should listen
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10:24 AM
Aww...Mr Big D hasn't been back to rape the english language even more.
 
@tombull89 First thing I checked when I came into this office this morning
 
@BartDeVos report that to meta
@BartDeVos I meant to reply to this
 
@KennyRasschaert (try pressing the up arrow to edit a chat-message). And we figured it's because the blogpost is 'new'. See @Iain
 
Not used to the concept of editing chat :P
It's a bug nonetheless though
Since it happens so rarely, they're probably not aware of it yet
 
@KennyRasschaert aware of what ? That blog replaces chat ?
 
10:38 AM
@Iain yes, surely it's not intentional?
 
no, it's by design
 
even now that i've clicked the blog link, and the [new] indicator is gone
still no chat
@Iain not the design choice i would have made, but ok
 
The chat link will return 24hours after the blog was posted - I'm looking for the reference atm
@KennyRasschaert here's some information on it
 
thanks
by the looks of the comments there, I'm not alone in thinking it's a strange decision
 
You're not - it's definitely not intuitive and a later change has made Jeff's answer less than useful - the chat links in the side bar don't always turn up now.
 
10:46 AM
Level 3/3 support ticket to install Adobe Reader on a TS
OMG
 
@BartDeVos just tell them: lol, no.
Foxit or something a bit more lightweight, maybe?
 
Or at least Foxit minus the ask toolbar, ebay desktop shortcuts and all the other guff it seems to ship with these days.
 
@SmallClanger Well, we actually have Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro (the full thing, creating, editing PDFs) which can't be as bad as bundled toolbars.
It's NOT on our TS, however.
 
Hmm, I could request an RFC before I do anything...
hmm
tempting
 
@BartDeVos Request For Common (Sense)?
 
10:51 AM
Meh
time for lunch
 
11:49 AM
I'm a bit bored right now, I don't mean as in this minute, I mean I want to build something cool
 
@Chopper3 me and @KennyRasschaert are in the same place
we'v been spitballing startup ideas to eachother over the last month :)
 
yeah all we need now is a great idea, time, funding, ability and will
 
@KennyRasschaert Almost there :)
 
@Chopper3 OH MY GODZ new choppertar
 
?
 
12:03 PM
Is imgur down?
 
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Q: avatar images don't work

ValThis might be just my machine but are the avatars working ? http://stackoverflow.com/unanswered/tagged/javascript I am on the newest tab, and all of the avatars don't work. here is a link of one of the avatars http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/f394b822c935303424f4c2ac1ad64831?s=64&d=identic...

no, Gravatar's CND has gone down.
@Chopper3 Oops :P my bad
 
So, Imgur uses gravatar?
TIL
so much for reddit
ugh
 
@BartDeVos I think they use the same CDN
 
@BartDeVos imgur uses the same cdn
 
user image
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WTF IMGUR
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12:45 PM
Seat-of-the-pants backup:
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12:59 PM
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And gone. It got downvoted to bits. :)
 
anyone else ever get to install vcloud director? fuck me it's tedious
 
Still slumming with vSphere4.
 
1:16 PM
'ello folks
 
1:28 PM
hey
 
Why does SF replace chat with blog, instead of something like Meta since meta seems to be a place for you to just be told you're an idiot? At least in chat there's talk of boobs. Or just add a full-time blog link.
I'd ask in meta but they'd just tell me why I'm stupid. I have users for that, I don't need the site doing that.
 
Thought the same thing this morning
Apparently, it's by design.
3 hours ago, by Iain
When a new blog is posted for a site the chat link gets replaced by the blog link for a while. When a SE blog is posted the meta.SF chat link gets changed
 
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Q: Eeeek! Where did the chat top navigation link go?

Octavian DamieanThe chat link in the top navigation bar is gone. Instead there is a shiny blog link. Where did the chat link go?

 
I like how the other answers are basically "There's links all over for it, are you an idiot?"
Instead of questioning why you'd have a link that changes to something totally unrelated for 24 hours.
And why chat is replaced instead of something like "meta" or some other random thing. Be consistent in your inconsistency...randomly change which part of your interface is going to be changed. So then your blog link could just randomly replace something with each new blog entry.
 
@BartSilverstrim I have one response
You're an idiot
<3
 
1:38 PM
It's a community run site..."Why is it doing this? It's not intuitive nor good interface design." "Well, that's because you're an idiot. There's chat links all over. Just look around." ... "So you're not going to fix the problem..."
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Oh, and one of the answers was basically highlighting the "currently in chat" bit in big red crayon-y circles and arrows. AND ITS MISSING FROM MY SF PAGE AT THE MOMENT. Thanks...helpful.
 
Huh, yeah, the sidebar doesn't show chat
gogo browser cache!
 
It's in the footer, too, but takes some hunting down.
 
Yeah, because people read the fine print bullshit on the bottom of web pages.
 
@Holocryptic the sidebar shows chat when the moon is in the right quarter and some strange metric related to the 'Related' questions column is fulfilled
 
And this cody gray's answer is complete bullshit...basically "I don't use it so it's not important."
 
1:47 PM
@BartSilverstrim That was the answer by Jeff Atwood, no less
he's one of the guys who run things
 
With http://serverfault.com/questions/329273/store-and-backup-200-millions-of-little-files
without http://serverfault.com/questions/329258/moving-oraclevm-machines-to-esxi
 
I noticed it was from jeff atwood. Basically, screw the user interface consistency.
 
@SmallClanger That's basically how my home backup script works.
 
Also, I haven't seen Jeff in m.SF lately. There's at least two tag burn requests and there's been no response. But I guess when you're overseeing the fracturing of the sites into tiny hyper specialized pieces, things get back-burnered
But now I sound like an ungrateful asshole
Which I am most of the time
 
You can always email team+meta.serverfault@stackexchange.com to get things done
 
1:53 PM
Well, I don't think that retagging requests warrant that level of escalation
 
@BartSilverstrim you alright bud?
 
I think they're discovering that community-run sites don't scale without benevolent dictators.
@Shads0: Why? Sound more grouchy than usual?
 
@BartSilverstrim seem normal to me
 
Aside from the usual bullshit there's some escalation of stress and steam, but nothing I shouldn't be able to find a reason to get out of bed for in the morning.
Although it's really bullshit to have someone say that Chat is worthless because they don't use it when a number of people here dedicate a fuckload of their time into answering questions and participating on the site and then get their concerns shrugged off like that.
And then talk about it being community centered and community run when chat fosters an important connection among many of the participants.
 
#OccupyChat
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1:57 PM
@BartSilverstrim We're SF, the redheaded step slave... Which is where we'll always be.
 
We should start our own fucking Facebook page for SF chat then start posting to their FB SE and see how meta inception that can get. And we'll use a fucking Paddington Taxi as our mascot.
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ew. Facebook. But LOL
 
My head starts pounding in the morning now. Strange. I keep downing advil but it just takes the edge off for a few hours. WTH?
 
@BartSilverstrim You're getting used to advil, so it has less and less effect. You may also be dehydrated.
 
I'd hate to dip into the old pills again. I can't get more without a doctor's prescription and they came in handy when I had one of those pains in my side...what are they called again? When a nerve in your back gets pinched and your hip/leg hurts like hell?
I commented on that meta thread so I guess I'll wait for some retribution.
 
2:01 PM
@BartSilverstrim sciatic nerve?
 
YEAH! Sciatica.
I had medication left over from my surgery...after taking that I could WALK again.
 
@BartSilverstrim I'd also plenty of water and see if that helps any, first.
 
Yeah, I kind of ignore the headache here. They'd frown on driving or being at work on narcotics.
Things are getting a little better than they had been lately...wife's concussion seems to have healed up mostly, she finally had the infection in her sinuses identified as a staph infection so that can get better treatment after three months, and tomorrow she's having a growth on her arm removed to see if it's a carcinoma.
My sciatica thing was like...what...early last month. That was just a WTH thing that happened where I was glad I still had those leftover pills rather than another trip for the insurance company to bitch about paying.
 
@BartSilverstrim See? shit gets better, all you need is the right amount of tits!
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Given enough time things either get worse so you wish you were in your previous rut or things get better until they get worse. Life's funny that way.
 
2:08 PM
One day I'll be able to bring a guest to these damn holiday parties. One day...
 
Damn, I thought there were clowns and rainbows later on
Damn, today is DepressingChat.SE...where the hell is @voretaq7?
 
@Holocryptic That's the legal side of escort services... =]
 
hahaha
 
MLP costume that requires 2 people and you'll be set.
 
And bonus that everyone thinks you can bag a 9/10
 
2:11 PM
@ChrisS Unless its obvious that you can't then they all know you bought a prostitute for the night and then ridicule you forever until you quit or off yourself...either way you get some kinky sex with a certified hooker.
 
Yes, that will definitely be a boost to my work street cred.
@Shads0 Unless she laughs at you and takes your money and flounces away. Yes, flounces.
 
@ChrisS I'm assuming that you compress it before encrypting it, though...
 
Really, 'flounces'?
 
I love the word 'flounces'
 
it's a very british word afaik
 
2:15 PM
sounds like it
 
I'm not British. Just relatively well read. And by well read, I mean I read a lot of sci-fi and fantasy.
 
Is it? What's the US equivalent?
 
Maybe I was just in a mood to, as we called it in college, "Fire up the hate plow."
 
In fact, I applied that descriptor to my daughter last evening.
 
I'm still waiting for some banhammer from meta to hit.
 
2:16 PM
And by sci-fi-fantasy, you mean you're a member of FreakyPorn.SE
 
I read "flounce" as "floozy."
 
@BartSilverstrim floozy implies drunken, I think
 
@Holocryptic or slutty in general
 
Either way, fun date.
 
we're looking for a verb, not an adjective
 
2:16 PM
@Shads0 There's a freakyporn.se??!!
 
"floozy her."
 
@Holocryptic I don't think it does. Floozy, to the best of my understanding, simply implies a willingness to ahem entertain.
 
It's where @pauska 's sock and @tombull89 's lego fleshlight reside
Quick, to English.SE!
 
"That floozy would like my stack in her exchange."
 
@Shads0 Nah, eff those guys. They get all high brow and look down their noses at people. Like us, only with bigger words.
@ScottPack Looks like you may be right
 
2:19 PM
Damn English majors, always looking down at people from their jobs as...poets...and...baristas...something.
 
I think @Ward called them "mental masturbaters"
 
snort Poets. Such mounds of petaQ they are.
Ga! Fuck you Nessus! "The scan was interrupted prior to completion" That is unacceptable!
 
Yay! Just got a coupon to get a $30 gift card for $25 at local comic shop. Xmas is done for me, man!
:-)
 
@ScottPack You should take it out back and beat it with a hose
 
@Holocryptic Tell me about it.
If this scanner weren't in the other building half a mile away, I would walk down and stare angrily at it.
 
2:27 PM
Screaming into the drive array makes the drive heads hurt.
 
:2385299
 
That's amazing
 
I love that video.
 
Poor things, they're probably frightened.
 
@SmallClanger "No, go away, leave us alone! Let us whirr in peace"
 
2:44 PM
I wonder how people even begin to research stuff like that
 
Hmm...what could possibly cause someone to scream at a server...
 
luser: My backup is failing constantly
me: Is the drive full?
luser: Can't be, its relatively new
**box has a vista ready and mac osx 10.4 compatible sticker on it**
Me: Ok, well do you have the laptop youre backing up with?
Luser: no, why would i bring that, it says the drive doesnt work!
 
No socks though. Sorry to disappoint.
 
I AM DISAPPOINT.
or not really, got promoted today
:-D
 
Yay for pauska!
 
2:49 PM
So holding out for that management position paid off?
 
indeed it did
or well.. I outlived the lead sysadmin (wich is now quitting)
 
Congratulations.
 
@pauska Congrats, does that mean you get 2 socks now?
 
@pauska way to go
Someone needs to straighten this guy out. He's given a few bad answers lately
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A: Windows server2008 WAMP server DNS

FrankEnter the name of host in linux hosts file, /etc/hosts like: 192.168.2.2 mydomainame.com or add its dns entry in your local dns to make it work.

I flagged that one as "Not an Answer"
Lets see how that goes over
 
@SmallClanger Yep, find (build file list; diff/inc/full) > tar > xz (lzma compression) > openssl (blowfish) > dd to disk or tape
 
3:11 PM
@MarkM I've left the guy a couple of comments about the quality of his answers - he's not listening . I flagged this as should be a comment as a bare link is useless - considered helpful but question left :(
 
@pauska yay you
 
@Iain I love the "Welcome to SF" the best :)
 
@Shads0 that's one of my auto comments thyat I normally use on new users - I forgot to edit the welcome bit out.
 
Ah, thought it was just intentional snark
which wouldve been funnier
 
It's interesting that you thought it was snark - perhaps I need to work on the wording ...
 
3:28 PM
Mostly just because you see that to a user that has 300 rep, which is above the average, aye? And considering he was previously mentioned to have bad answers, it's more context of the chat than anything, I doubt someone outside the chat (or anyone that is not me as I have a weird way of associating things in my mind) will construe that as snark
 
@Iain Any time a sysadmin uses an exclamation mark, I assume it's sarcastic. We don't really get excited about a whole lot.
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:)
 
@MarkM I would be willing to classify certain aspects of a burning rage as excitement.
 
Wow, we just had a serious case of You're Doing IT Wrong.
 
@MikeyB Provisioning Windows systems with a 4GB C drive?
 
GoGo Win2k!
 
3:38 PM
@MikeyB ya?
 
Or sometimes 2k3 >_<
 
Do tell
 
Have a customer who's got a Lenovo server. 4 drives in a RAID10, one SSD, one standalone drive. The Lenovo utilities on his (Windows) install are reporting a drive failure, but won't tell him which one.
We connect to his machine, install the RAID management utility, etc. Alarm starts going off immediately, OK good. Then we fire up the management client.
It's a web interface. Rather than making a sensible GUI program, it installed fucking Apache *just* to serve up the interface. And the client only works in Internet Explorer. Except it doesn't work, it crashes.
 
@MikeyB yep
Lenovo is the suck for servers
 
@ScottPack Out thin clients running WinTPC have 4 or 8GB partitions. =P
 
3:42 PM
We've some IBM System X boxes here, decent I guess. I didn't even know Lenovo made "servers", and we have like 2000 Lenovo notebooks.
 
I've had enough exposure to IBM and Lenovo products. Will. Not. Buy.
 
We use Lenovo here for our desktops and notebooks. We like it. No way are we going near their servers though
 
Oh, even better… the utility wasn't preinstalled on the machine or on Lenovo's site. Coworker had to track down the make of the RAID card, go to the site, install the driver.
The driver install drops a setup executable for the management utility into the filesystem. You have to go find that, run it, it installs the utility. Then through trial and error discover it only works properly in IE. Fun.
@MarkM The Lenovo desktops are pretty decent, we sell a lot of those. As for the laptops, only the ones that are the Thinkpad line from IBM are good in our opinion.
@jscott From what I recall, the SE sites use Lenovo servers. Believe it or not.
 
Yeah, we stick with the Thinkpad T series
@MikeyB Not any more. That was in the very beginning when Jeff was rubber banding drive trays from ebay in
 
@MarkM My W510 (W -> workstation replacement) is pretty sick. Only thing it's missing is SSD.
 
3:49 PM
ThinkPad X series here. Long live the clit-mouse!
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Now it's all Dell, I believe.
I had a Thinkpad X60 for 3 years before I got a Macbook Air
It was a nice little machine for what it was.
 
@MarkM We haven't touched the Lenovo servers yet.
 
@jscott I've always called it an "eraser mouse"
 
I can't stand Lenovos...
 
3:55 PM
I've always called it a 'stupid piece of shit'
 
That too
 
The trackpoint does seem to be polarizing, people here either love it or hate it.
 
I love it
I miss it on my macbook
Being able to move the cursor anywhere without moving your hand at all is win
having to lift up your finger multiple times to get across the screen is shitty in comparison
 
@MarkM Well, then I'll have to assume that you hate freedom
 
@MarkM Yeah, I'm a fan as well.... Our X200s don't have touchpads, but the X201s do. I also like the three different replacement tips they provide: convex bumps, concave bumps and crusty-fuzz.
 
4:05 PM
I hate when I link to an RFC and people don't read it and then follow up with questions about content that's spelled out in the RFC. For fuck's sake people, these things aren't readily available on the Internet so that they can be ignored.
 
ugh. 1.5 hours in a car today to get to work.
@MarkM RFC = Request for Comment. What we really need is a DFC system (Demand for Compliance - Preferably backed up by angry people with knives and guns.)
 
@voretaq7 I was 1:15 to go 18 miles.
 
@MarkM Watching the cursor fly past your intended target time and again and again, taking 10x longer to actually click the button, is lose.
 
@ChrisS I never had that problem. Did you install the trackpoint driver and adjust the sensitivity?
 
@MarkM That would likely require lifting my finger; defeating the 'win' before it got a chance.
 
4:09 PM
adjusts nipple sensitivity There we go!
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@MarkM The trackpoint driver changing the middle-click to be "Trackpoint-scroll", by default, is the real lose.
 
@jscott That, I can agree with, I do find scroll useful though
 
@ChrisS There are times that I prefer a trackpoint over a mouse. Even for certain games (WoW-type games, LOTRO, etc.)
@jscott It can be both. At least under Linux.
 
@Holocryptic that... that's not its nipple
 
@MikeyB Linux? Laptops? Are you a sadist of some sort? :)
 
4:11 PM
@jscott Hey man, my suspend/resume actually works. Even with my nVidia card.
 
@MikeyB Now I know you're fibbing.... :)
 
@MikeyB How in the hell do you play an MMO with a track pad?
 
@Shads0 Oh god, I don't. Ewww. Trackpads get disabled ASAP. I said trackPOINT (i.e. clit mouse)
 
So one vendor just recommended that one of our clients reboot the mail server to fix an email delivery problem. Except it's hosted Exchange in the "cloud". So it's like a double fuck you.
 
@MikeyB oh...even worse
 
4:13 PM
@Holocryptic Well, heck, just reboot The Cloud.
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@jscott That's what I'm thinking
The Internets are broken. Give it a kick
 
I gotta have the full control, maybe because I used to play War in WoW, having that full control was so necessary for me, even trying to play on my laptop was just...oh god...OH GOD THE HORROR
 
@Shads0 There's two types of people. The ones who like the pad, the ones who like the clit, and the ones who can't figure out either.
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@jscott Bring me the silver nitrate!
 
@ScottPack @Shads0 @MarkM @Chopper3 thanks :)
 
4:14 PM
@MikeyB . . . that's star worthy.
 
@MikeyB Sounds like either way we need some tampons in here
 
anyone played Battlefield 3 on a PC yet?
 
@voretaq7 That just might work!
 
@Chopper3 Pretty much the whole .SE crew
Mines on 360...
 
son's playing it on 360 but I fancy knocking up a nice windows box to play it with a mouse
 
4:17 PM
@Chopper3 I want to...needs a new card before I could even think about it.
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A: Is a Router required to set up a network?

Jim Bipv6 auto assigns a link local address and APIPA is a protocol designed to do the same for IPv41. A router is only required on a network when routing (getting packets to another network) is required. Ethernet cables are point to poin connections and cannot be created in a 3 headed configuration...

 
I need to open a credit account for newegg, my imac is starting to show it's age
 
same for IPv41.?! typo?
 
@tombull89 Probably, there's a few typos in that answer.
 
@tombull89 were you cryogenicly frozen or something?
 
I was thinking about trying it on a DL380 with something like one of the tesla cards we have for testing cuda stuff - should be ok
 
4:19 PM
they're already considering IPV42
 
@tombull89 the 1 is a hyperlink
 
call me when we get to IPv666
 
@Chopper3 Bwahaha.
 
@voretaq7 You mean you haven't invented it yet?
 
@Holocryptic Oh, yes, so it is.
 
4:19 PM
@tombull89 no reason to assume it'll work really
 
@Shads0 I hear Microsoft is writing the RFC...
 
@voretaq7 The network of The Beast.
 
Even worse...
 
@Chopper3 True...that would be One Hell of a gaming computer.
 
I wonder how my boss would feel if I used the new SQL server as my gaming machine...
 
4:20 PM
980 would be cool, we have lots of quadro 6k's about, again for cuda testing, two in SLI would be sweet
 
@tombull89 IPV41 is the shit. You thought there were a lot of available addresses in IPV6? You ain't seen nothin yet.
 
Now you can buy custom TLD's for $185,000, what would happen if I offered ICANN $500,000 for .internal or .local? Watch sysadmins globally scream.
 
they're cheaper than the real SL390s we use for production reencoding work
 
@tombull89 Or .local
 
4:22 PM
@jscott Free shipping, mind.
 
@KyleBrandt @PeterGrace Serverfault should spend some of that VC to try and buy .local from ICANN's custom TLD program. Think of all of the traffic we'd get from people trying to figure out how to fix their soon-to-be-fucked-up AD structure.
There would be free rep for everyone
 
ROFL
 
@MarkM and no help for the stupid.
 
we actually get the HP rebadged version as it's the only cuda-equipped gpu that hp support in the dl580 g7's we use - h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c02571608.pdf
 
AND YOU GET AN UPVOTE, AND YOU GET AN UPVOTE
EVERYONE GETS AN UPPPP-VOOOOOTEEE
 
4:24 PM
"You are obviously too dumb to handle Active Directory. Here's a Windows for Workgroups box. And a token ring card. The token is in the storage room somewhere..."
 
The most valuable members of the community would be the ones that have done domain renames and cross-forest migrations. i.e. me.
 
@Chopper3 6...6GB? Woah. Kinds of laught at my Radeon 1GB.
 
ethernet cables CAN be setup to work in a three way kind of setup can't they? that's just a hub, seriously I know it sounds like BS but I'm sure you can do it
 
@PeterGrace I KNEWWWWWW you were going for that.
 
4:26 PM
@PeterGrace iLOL'd
 
@Chopper3 You can't have a 3-ended cable without some electronics in the middle.
 
yes you can.
 
@PeterGrace Covered in Bees!
 
Eeeeeeeeeevil Oprah.
 
@tombull89 tbh our code doesn't use the memory, uses all the cuda cores though but that gpu's for workstation type stuff
 
4:26 PM
There's Fat Oprah, Skinny Oprah, and Eeeeeeeeeeeeeevil Oprah.
 
I love watching Oprah's Favorite Things just to see the crowd react.
 
Totally going to point the tech department teachers to that Quadro 6000 next time they complain their CAD software is slow.
 
@voretaq7 Ok, you can physically, but it wont work right?
 
@voretaq7 Just create a common bus using a pair?
 
@markm @jscott it should work electrically
 
4:28 PM
I've still never seen a 3-way cross-over, but it sounds hot.
 
Ethernet is just CSMA/CD - the cards do all the collision detection/avoidance stuff
 
@voretaq7 How do you handle the transmit/receive cross with three ends?
 
@voretaq7 my thoughts exactly - I'm sure I've seen a 'cable-as-a-hub' a LOOOOONg time ago
 
Or are you just assuming the GbE NIC will auto-MDIX it?
 
@MarkM With modern cards you don't :-)
not quite "cable as a hub" but similar in concept...
 
4:31 PM
@voretaq7 read your own link :)
NOTE: This Ethernet splitter allows two computers to share one Ethernet line ONE AT A TIME - but it doesn't support both computer to connect onto the internet simultaneously"
I'm not an electrical engineer by any stretch, but I just can't see a schematic in my head that would work for a physical cable with the crosses, and I really think that auto-MDIX would choke to death on it.
 
BRB, sketching schematic :-)
 
I'm going to lunch, take your time and build a working prototype
 
You have 1 hour
 
Fuck Yeah.
comcast is beginning the official IPv6 deployment
might make me switch to comcast.
 
4:35 PM
@voretaq7 What's the BSD equivalent of mspaint.exe?
 
@PeterGrace That means that they have a DPI system for IPv6 traffic in place now, I bet. No more tunneling 4-to-6 with Bittorrent to avoid throttling :(
 
@jscott gimp
 
Too useful!
 
@voretaq7 Does it come with a zippered mask?
 
OK, it requires some soldering inside the cable, but it's definitely do-able.
Easiest way: Join all the TX pins to a common point, connect that point to all the RX pins (optionally with diodes, but not strictly necessary)
you'll pick up your own jam signal though... hmm
 
4:37 PM
Working prototype, or I call bs.
 
ok more complex then, you'll have to do a lot of soldering....
I sketch - someone else solders.
 
@voretaq7 Enough to end up with a hub in between the three connecters? :D
 
@MarkM effectively, yes - but with no power consumption :-)
 
@MarkM I bet you're right, and I also bet that's why they're moving forward with ipv6 so readily. They want to throttle more traffic.
 
Verizon FiOS. No throttling that I can see.
 
4:46 PM
@Holocryptic but, IPv6?
 
@PeterGrace Not yet that I know of. I could be wrong
Don't really need it yet, either...
 
I have had ipv6 for years now and it's made my life better
 
@PeterGrace How? Isn't an address an address an address? Regardless of whether it's v4 or v6?
 
@Holocryptic Well, first off, being able to ssh into internal boxes at home without having to deal with NAT is awesome.
 
okay, that's one thing. Not what I'd consider life altering though...
 
4:55 PM
@Holocryptic I can also IRC from any reverse DNS I want.
well, I have to own the forward, of course, but.
DETAILS.
 
I miss you guys
 
@hobodave stay a while!
 
I missed you guys. I'll aim better next time.
 
room topic changed to The Comms Room: You are a precious snowflake. This is *NOT a place for 'Live Support', ask questions on the main site. (no tags)*
 
snowflakes tend to get all melty, and then they all look the same. There is no unique. There's just different shades of same.
 
4:57 PM
Dave freaking Brubeck
 
but you're still precious @Holocryptic
 
Hi Holo!
 
I HATES the snowflakes.
 
I shovel them thousands at a time from in front of my car, for what feels like 11 months a year.
 
@Basil Hola
 
4:58 PM
hey @voretaq7 you use puppet right?
 
I also use puppet
 
@PeterGrace how long have you been using it?
 
@pauska uses a sock puppet...
low blow
 
@hobodave my personal knowledgeset is short, only a couple months, but I've worked in companies that have used it for years.
 
@hobodave we use radmind - it's like puppet but older
 
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