The Comms Room

12:03 AM

No, there is a concrete answer. In most lore the issue comes because a vampire, or similar critter, cannot cross a Threshold. In the event of beaming the vampire would, in effect, never cross the Threshold. It would simply be on the other side.

Much like opening entering via a summoning portal for those fancy extra-planars.

Journeyman Geek

wouldn't there be a point in teleportation where you're here but not there ?

in which case the treshold would be a point in teleportation and the vamp either gets stuck, or goes SPLAT

Aaron

It reminds me of this one:

bash.org/?5598

Zoredache

@MikeyB, they somewhat discussed that on the podcast recently. Scifi and gaming sort of fit the same way. Those sites, supposedly will might start attracting new stackexchange users who will also look at and contribute to the more professional sites.

Scott Pack

@JourneymanGeek You're assuming that the vampire remains a vampire during the transport. Given my understanding of Federation beaming technology that would be an incorrect assumption.

MikeyB

@ScottPack Ah, but does his soul go with the energy beam? And is it this soul that is barred from entering. Forget Buffyverse :p.

Scott Pack

12:12 AM

I have no knowledge of the Buffy verse, unfortunately.

Zoredache

Ok, how about this. It all completely depend on if someone else is in the house already to observe the vampire. If nobody else is in the house, then the vampire is both dead and alive at the same time.

MikeyB

@Zoredache Yeah, I heard when they discussed gaming.SE. I disagree with some of @codinghorror's points though - he compared the number of languages on SO vs. the vast number of games. True enough, but I think a more apt comparison may be the number of libraries available vs. number of games or perhaps number of languages vs. series/genre/etc. (ok, that last one's weak).

I think gaming.SE gives a much needed site for exactly the kind of question gamers are going to ask that's perfect for this format (How do I X?). Admittedly the number of qualified answerers is low and is biased towards recent games, but both the questions and answers are going to bias that way I think.

@ScottPack In Buffyverse, vampires have no soul. Except for special circumstances.

@ScottPack I'm not sure if vampires have soul in other canon.

Scott Pack

@MikeyB That would be my base assumption as well.

MikeyB

@ScottPack One could posit that iff the vampire has a soul, it's blocked from entering and the transported vampire (cannot materialize|crumbles into dust on materialization)

Scott Pack

Once you start talking about souls, then we get into the realm of the supernatural. I prefer to keep my discussion regarding vampires and beaming technology grounded in reality.

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Journeyman Geek

12:18 AM

or you get the 'let the right one in' effect

which means the vampire is in EXTREME pain, bleeds from the eyes, etc

MikeyB

12:52 AM

WTF?

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Q: Synchronize information in same server with multiple ips

So i have a unix dedicated server and multiple ips. I am running a website on both ip address. 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.1 How do i make it so the files and folders on both ip addresses are synchronized? If i update index.php on the first ip, i want the change to be updated on the second ip. Any i...

Ward

2:57 AM

@ScottPack I'm not familiar with all (or even very many) vampire variations, but I think the very very best one is Fred Saberhagen's Dracula series. A couple of the books have weak premises, but most of them are awesome, and his version of what vampires can and can't do is excellent.

Ward

5:05 AM

Fred Saberhagen

Fred Thomas Saberhagen (May 18, 1930–June 29, 2007) was an American science fiction and fantasy author most famous for his Berserker series of science fiction short stories and S.F. novels. Saberhagen also wrote a series of vampire novels in which the vampires (including the famous Dracula) are the protagonists, and a series of post-apocalyptic mytho-magical novels beginning with his popular Empire of the East and continuing through a long series of Swords and Lost Swords novels. Saberhagen died of cancer, in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Biography Saberhagen was born in and grew up ...

Ward

6:06 AM

Wow, cleared everything from Chrome - cookies, form data, history - and the world didn't end.

Iain

7:17 AM

G'day

Ward

Morning.

Or Night, for some of us.

There's a bunch of crappy questions waiting for more close votes...

Iain

@Ward the Hammar vampires are a good variation

Journeyman Geek

7:56 AM

@Iain: the ones that turn to dust when you stake them, then come back to life when you pour ~~tomato puree~~ blood on them?

t1nt1n

8:08 AM

Morning IT Geeks/Hags etc.

faker

9:28 AM

Morning

t1nt1n

hey

Iain

10:40 AM

@JourneymanGeek my recollection is they mostly wandered about in skimpy night dresses with tight bodices

MarkM

11:58 AM

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Q: IIS7: HOW TO REDIRECT FOLDER TO ANOTHER WITHIN THE SAME WEBSITE ON WEB.CONFIG

I have a web.config file that I use to redirect specific pages for seo reasons. I want to redirect the content of one folder (www.sample.com/pro/bcn) to another folder (www.sample.com/pro/barcelona) on the same site, But I don't know how. <configuration> <system.webServer> ...

redirect iis7.5

Love the all caps

Iain

@MarkM I fixed that earlier

whereas this just defeated me

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Q: Internet user can not access my web server on DMZ

Hi Dear experts and Everyone Well im having an issue with my Asa Config and i´m trying as hard as i can to get real n working answer here, so far i didnt get but hope n sure this time i will.by the way i would like to share this one with you. I did a new configuration in my ASA 5520 v7 and so be...

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Robert Moir

12:17 PM

blogs.technet.com/b/alexandre_marins_blog1/archive/2011/11/07/… <---- never before have I seen the human league quoted in microsoft documentation (ok its only a blog, I know, but still...)

Shads0

1:26 PM

'ello folks

Kyle Brandt

1:44 PM

lol, this comment on that post I linked yesterday is awesome:

"One company I was at for some reason decided to run SQL server on top of CIFS (!) of all things, Microsoft even approached them to do a case study years ago they never went through with it. But SQL server was so sensitive to latency on CIFS they ended up devoting a 110-disk array(10k RPM) to databases that were pushing in the realm of maybe 1000 IOPS at peak."

tombull89

@Iain Eurgh. I'd want more than 2 rep for editing that into something vaugely coherant.

MarkM

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A: How do I give IUSR access in a domain?

If you have and AD domain, try creating a service account with a non-expiring password, use that account inside your IIS to run services, and then give that account access to those folders. This is the more typical pattern in larger networks. The individual computer IUSR accounts are not useful ...

tombull89

@KyleBrandt 110 disks?! woah.

Kyle Brandt

To get 1k IOPS

MarkM

^ In the comments, he tells the user to run the whole IIS service under a service account. WTF?

That user has posted a few bad/guess answers recently. I hope he doesn't turn into u4ik.

Iain

1:47 PM

@tombull89 I started but felt my brain beginning to melt out of my ears so walked away from it while I still could

MarkM

Though, this guy's profile says that he's 39 and a project manager, so he might be even worse than a 17 year old kid without a clue that means well.

Kyle Brandt

Had some confusion around that will SQL accounts the other day. The SQL accounts themselves being AD accounts vs the Services

In the case of SQL though you do want to run the service itself under AD accounts generally

MarkM

@KyleBrandt Yeah, unless you don't care about things like replication

Kyle Brandt

@MarkM: Backups get a little painful as well

MarkM

Are you scripting a SQL job to just dump the DBs somewhere and ship them off?

We use BackupExec (blah) and it has no prob doing hot backups regardless of what account the service is running on.

Kyle Brandt

1:52 PM

@MarkM: Use the maintenance plans, but those just create the scripts for you

MarkM

got ya

I've never had to fiddle with that. Good to know, though.

Kyle Brandt

They go to our failover server where they also get auto restored everyday. They also get copied to our other datacenter and restored daily there as well

In addition tape backs them up from the local failover server as well

tombull89

@MarkM I don't think anyone could be as bad as u4ik (who has been thinkfully quiet recently). There was also Chopper3's little friend but no word from him/her/it either.

MarkM

@tombull89 There have been a few others that are worse. VGV8 comes to mind.

Kyle Brandt

Now that I write that out I realize that is quite a lot of backups :-P

MarkM

1:54 PM

@KyleBrandt haha yep

I don't think you need to worry much about things like the "oops, we rolled the site back a few days" blip from a couple of years ago.

tombull89

@MarkM thankfully, vgv8 was before my time.

@MarkM ?!

MarkM

Search for some of his posts on m.sf

They're amazing

Even the non-deleted ones on main are awesome

Iain

This guy is being caught by the automagic low quality detector quite a bit today #

I've even prodded him about it twice and he's not getting it

Kyle Brandt

However, our sites data is essentially the value of the company in my mind. Take the salary of everyone on stackoverflow and multiply that by time spent answering questions and that probably even exceeds our $18 million in funding. So those backups should probably be viewed as storing at least $18 million dollars somewhere

MarkM

yup

Kyle Brandt

2:00 PM

Hmm... maybe I should make a blog.sf post about that :-P

tombull89

@MarkM wut. WUT. Woah.

@KyleBrandt Are your backups live? (like done constantly?)

jscott

@tombull89 @MarkM He's since changed his handle and is active on other SE sites...

tombull89

@jscott So I see...I need a bucket.

Kyle Brandt

@tombull89: No, SO is is pretty current with log shipping. Then we have a full/diff cycle that goes off every 6 hours I think

And the tape and offsite stuff is every 24 hours

Might be time to reevaluate that. As we get more traffic (rate of content) the data loss increases for that period of time

Hm.... this will make a good blog post... be back in a bit :-P

tombull89

@KyleBrandt Look forward to reading it!

Holocryptic

2:10 PM

when gummi bears talk trash...

MarkM

^ Coincidence? Can't be.

Chris S

@MarkM Yeah; we all get it. It was funny when most people though The Architect looked like Colonel Sanders, but anyone who knows who Vint Cerf is got the joke.

MarkM

2:26 PM

@ChrisS Aw man, am I the only one that just realized this?

Chris S

There are millions of unwashed masses who still don't know. =]

MarkM

@ChrisS Aw man, am I the only one with a clue that just realized this?

Chris S

Um, might be... yes. =[

MarkM

(I'm asking you to take a leap of faith here and assume that I have a clue. Just go with it.)

Robert Moir

frigging power cuts

Chris S

2:29 PM

Like outages?

Robert Moir

yes

MarkM

@RobertMoir You spelled "fucking" wrong.

Robert Moir

i did, but variety is the spice of life

Chris S

Or is a "power cut" like cutting in front of the whole lunch line in school?

Robert Moir

heh....

Just lost power to half the town, never mind just the college

it came back quick enough but still disruptive

Chris S

2:31 PM

College? Thought you were primary school?

Chopper3

howdy fuckers

Robert Moir

on an unrelated note IBM UK reckon the college spend £5k with them last year. We haven't spent £1 with them in the 12/13 years I've been here, afaik

nope. college

howdy frigger

Chris S

@Chopper3 You didn't like the "Hardware spec for a 20 HD Stream Transcoding Server" question?

Chopper3

not enough info - 20 x 12fps QVGA could be done on my phone, 1 x 115fps 3D 4k would tax anything - too vague - plus it had a flag

Chris S

yeah; I just laughed when I saw you migrated it. Probably the only person on the site who really knows that stuff inside and out.

Chopper3

2:38 PM

got a bit of a headache so a bit grumpy tbh

it's just a super vague question - when you CAN give a very accurate answer it becomes annoying to speak with people who don't have the basics down you need to get to that answer - what format was he getting in (i.e. exactly and how), what happens to the transcoded versions, how large are the files, what hardware/software/budget/comms constraints do you have etc. all this is needed

I was tempted to just give him a dump of what tin we've recently moved to - HP SL390s's filled with Teslas

oh and who was that dude on yesterday going on about his hexacore boxes? he didn't know his onions - brought a knife to a gun fight I thought

Robert Moir

2:55 PM

that happens a lot here

there's people who think they know what they're talking about yet don't... which can be all of us at times...

then you get the people who are like that most of the time and aren't willing to learn... they are the pains in the ass both here and in the 'real world'

Chris S

Well there's a bit of difference between me talking about video transcoding, volunteering the caveat that I only do it as a hobby; and someone with the same experience thinking they can extrapolate that same sort of knowledge to a major VoD service with any accuracy... It's not really the level of knowledge, it's the meta-knowledge of the knowledge; knowing how little you actually know.

Holocryptic

I pretty much never know what I'm talking about, which is why I try not to open my mouth too much. About the only thing I can differentiate is a well written question and poorly written question.

Robert Moir

and ponies. You know your ponies, @Holocryptic

Holocryptic

Well, I try

Robert Moir

i bet you could even tell the taste difference between roast pony and "I can't believe its not unicorn".

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Holocryptic

3:08 PM

ha!

Iain

@Holocryptic ponies and boobs too

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Holocryptic

I'm pretty much only good with virtual boobs. Real boobs make me nervous and sweaty. As a real human being, I'm pretty useless.

Chris S

@Holocryptic Practice makes Perfect

Holocryptic

@ChrisS One day at a time...

Robert Moir

scumbag EDF - cuts power to half your town. Claims there's nothing wrong while you have 2500 students sitting in the dark

Holocryptic

3:13 PM

Chris S

What's an EDF?

Robert Moir

memegenerator's blocked here

EDF are one of the low down excuses for electricity suppliers we have in the uk

Holocryptic

crap can't edit...

so double post

Robert Moir

our current blocking software, websense, want £35,000 to give us their latest filter product. Their rival will do it for £15k less...

Bart Silverstrim

I HATE PRINTER DRIVERS ON WINDOWS. That is all.

Robert Moir

3:16 PM

heh thanks, cheered me up

@BartSilverstrim you say that as if printer drivers are more reasonable on other platforms, which is crazy talk. All printer drivers are lovingly forged from fail by lucifer himself

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Chris S

@BartSilverstrim I hope you're keeping track of how much time you spend maintaining those things.... I haven't dinked with our print drivers since I installed the HP Universal Printing and we started upgrading to the P4515 printers.

Holocryptic

I think we used websense at one point, and ditched it for being a piece of crap

Robert Moir

and what makes it worse is that he was just using them to warm up before writing photocopier networked drivers the horror... the tentacles...

Chris S

Use use ForeFront Threat Management Gateway for our caching proxy and minor content filtering... It's not aggressive at all, probably not workable for a college, but I'm really not sure how well it can be ratcheted down.

Robert Moir

We like Forefront TMG as it goes, but yeah filtering isn't good enough

we're looking at something called bloxx, which is pretty strong in the education market.

Bart Silverstrim

3:20 PM

We had issues with HP printer drivers on a particular model, started causing all sorts of problems. So we got Dells. Now we have a department that likes buying multifunction dells...over the network multifunction...

Robert Moir

I think all filtering is a house of cards at the best of times anyway, but in an educational environment we're obliged to do the best we can regardless of my thoughts!

Chopper3

talking of printers - I remember when postscript was an expensive luxury few could afford, these days why aren't all printers PS or a copy of it? seriously, I don't know why there's any other PDL out there

Bart Silverstrim

Today I've got two models that are going "offline" within 30 seconds to a minute of restarting the spooler.

Holocryptic

We moved to M86 r3000. Not bad as far as I could tell.

Bart Silverstrim

Reinstalling drivers doesn't seem to help, nor changing settings.

@#$%^!!!

Robert Moir

3:21 PM

if you want to see cheap crap in action try kyocera printers

Chris S

@BartSilverstrim I haven't had problems with the high-end multifunction units. Print as normal; fax as a printer; scan uses ntlm auth to dump the PDF or TIFF to a network share where the users can pickup the file. The SOHO multifunction units are all stamped with the number of the beat internally; designed by Lucifer as Robert pointed out.

Holocryptic

I hated trying to get kyocera print drivers working

Chris S

@Chopper3 Start a petition; I'll sign it.

Robert Moir

i'm not even sure they have a "working" state, just a "failing less often" one

Bart Silverstrim

Dell 3115CN at the moment.

And a 2335dn.

Chris S

3:23 PM

@Holocryptic Once they're working they're good.. But getting there, what a PITA.

Bart Silverstrim

"Would you like to help us improve our site?!" NO, I want a fu@% print driver that WORKS.

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Holocryptic

@ChrisS Yeah, we had a large multi function unit. I spent a good few hours and testing to get it working with 2008 and win7.

Chris S

Even HP I had words for when I found their x86 and x64 drivers had different 'descriptive names' in the driver inf files; so Windows refused to install both drivers on the print server until I fixed that.

Chopper3

I have a tiny Samsung colour laser that I use at home with my macs, when it works it's great, when it doesn't it'd be easier to copy things I want printed out long-hand

SmallClanger

@BartSilverstrim: Start with the small things, like World Peace.

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Robert Moir

3:25 PM

i have a samsung colour at home too, clp 300 or something like that. Seems ok for home use. Wouldn't last 10 seconds at work

Chopper3

same one, CLP-315w - TINY

Robert Moir

tucked away very neatly in my sad little "server cupboard"

Chris S

I need to upgrade; I've got an ancient HP PhotoSmart at home, have to hack drivers together to make it work with Win7; even more fun with Win8.

SmallClanger

We've got a Dell 31xx series, too. It's cheaper thatn a full set of colour carts.

voretaq7

:perks up: Moooo?

Chopper3

3:27 PM

I've been offered a job at a 'large computer manufacturer' that I'm seriously considering - only problem is it would limit my ability to recommend tin/sw/services etc. on here - odd isn't it, I'm considering not going for a job just because it'd impinge on my time here

Robert Moir

this whole thing about new printers being cheaper than a set of cartridges is just mad

Chopper3

Mine's in a cupboard too

Robert Moir

as long as its not IBM

Chopper3

not saying until it's done (or not)

Chris S

@RobertMoir I second that motion.

Bart Silverstrim

3:28 PM

Installing a damn printer shouldn't take incantations from the Necronomicon, dammit.

Robert Moir

fair enough

it shouldn't @bart but see earlier comment about devil drivers

could be worse... cthulu is the patron saint of SMTP ;-)

Chopper3

@BartSilverstrim I had a birthday piss-up with some friends in the lovely market town of Wells, I was 'Perma-Hammered' for the entire visit and my daughter was looking bored so I gave her some cash and told her to buy herself something nice to keep her busy - I was expecting shoes/clothes etc. but she bought a leatherbound edition of the necronominican

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voretaq7

@Chopper3 You let your daughter read the PostScript specification?

Chopper3

no, the real one, but I've read both

Robert Moir

how did you tell the difference?

one cost you your soul, the other was the real one?

Bart Silverstrim

3:33 PM

A sysadmin with a soul?

MarkM

15 hours ago, by Scott Pack

Once you start talking about souls, then we get into the realm of the supernatural. I prefer to keep my discussion regarding vampires and beaming technology grounded in reality.

Robert Moir

in retrospect, I should have realised that asking the monitoring software to autodiscover a whole /16 would take a while

MikeyB

@RobertMoir No shit, that's 5192296858534827628530496329220096 addresses.

Robert Moir

uh huh

MarkM

@RobertMoir opennms?

Robert Moir

3:37 PM

fitting both threads together, I have seen HP printer software bring a whole public /16 to its knees

manage engine opmanager

nice early version of jet direct it was, probed your whole lan (which yes was a public /16 back in the day at the university I was at) continually without any pause, looking for other jetdirect devices.

Bart Silverstrim

!@#%!! printer goes offline. Restart spooler. Jobs queued print. Printer goes offline. Repeat ad nauseum.

MarkM

@BartSilverstrim Printers are for noobs anyway.

tombull89

@Chopper3 -blink- that's an...interesting thing to buy.

Maybe she did it "for the greater good" (not the first time I've used a Hot Fuzz reference today.)

Chopper3

One thing I don't get is the number of posts out there about printing from ipads/iphones - that seems dumb to me, it'd be like using a Bugatti Veyron to plough a field

Bart Silverstrim

When was your bday, Chopper?

Robert Moir

3:48 PM

so much for the paperless office when the first thing people ask when you give them a tablet they can carry anywhere instead of reams of paper and they ask "how do I print from this?"

Chopper3

@tombull89 we stayed in the main hotel in the square there and actually went on a proper HF tour - we've had quite a few film-oriented holidays over the years, it's why we go to martha's vineyard so often

@BartSilverstrim 29 May, but this was a year back or so

Bart Silverstrim

My son's is 5/21.

tombull89

@Chopper3 Nice, been to Wells a few times, first was on a Geography school trip to study traffic management (thrilling stuff).

Chris S

In my experience, iPad are owned by only two types of people. 1. The ones who want to play games on them (or similar amusements). 2. Those who think it's a good productivity platform, despite not being able to print, no file system access, lack of most standard office apps; in short, Management/Executive/C-Level types.

Chopper3

I use mine as a loo-puter

browse while I dump

Chris S

3:50 PM

See "1. Amusements"

Chopper3

true

Bart Silverstrim

People who think the iPad is a replacement for a laptop, you mean.

Even though they're more adjunct.

Holocryptic

My client apparently bought some Macs for office use, as they said that DFS was supported. They had issues with DFS, and couldn't get Apple Support to work on it, as they said that it "Doesn't play nice with AD" or some such.

tombull89

Oh, anyone remember about that "best buy price match" I posted about a few days ago? When I used an app on my phone to get me £25 off a network switch? Turns out it looks like Best Buy are shutting down their UK stores...better get in there for a closing down sale ;)

Holocryptic

Tells you all you need right there

Bart Silverstrim

3:52 PM

And I revert to the last snapshot...and back to square one.

Chopper3

@tombull89 only been to the southampton one, looked like the PERFECT place to physically look at hardware before then buying the same thing online for less - no wonder they're retreating

@BartSilverstrim 21/5 ;)

tombull89

@Chopper3 Saying that, I was quite imporssed with the shop/range of stock. I wouldn't have gone in there normally, just I was in the area and wanted a poke around.

Bart Silverstrim

Ah, through the magic of virtualization I get to relive my nightmare from the start. Deja vu or hell?

@Chopper3: You haven't adopted the AMERICA, FUCK YEAH! standard yet.

Chopper3

@tombull89 it was a good place to try headphones on

tombull89

If there's anything most likely to get me GTFO'd from the room is that I'm probably around the same age as your sons/daughters ;)

@Chopper3 I didn't have time for that, went in at 10 to 8 so they were fairly quick in serving me and getting me back out the door.

Chopper3

3:57 PM

@BartSilverstrim afaik only the US does that...how much cash have you got right now - US "5 dollars and 20 dollars and 50 cents", everyone else "25 dollars and 50 cents"

@tombull89 son's 26/12/95, daughter's 26/07/99

Bart Silverstrim

? Haven't run into that. As with most economic problems, we just have empty wallets.

tombull89

@Chopper3 ah, not quite then. As my username indicates, I was born in '89.

(yeah, I'll go now)

Chris S

I've got a $20 in my pocket right now courtesy of the lotto.

Chopper3

very good

Bart De Vos

Pfieuw

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Q: Internet user can not access my web server on DMZ

I did a new configuration in my ASA 5520 v7 and so bellow is the latest sh run so you can have a better idea. My requirement are as follow: Internal clients need to be able to communicate with devices on the Internet. Internal clients need to be able to communicate with the DMZ web server. Ext...

firewall cisco cisco-asa

I tried, but I think I failed

I know I'm not a native speaker, but I don't get half of what the guy is saying...

tombull89

4:03 PM

@BartDeVos slow clap - now, edit his answer ;)

Chopper3

for a second I thought this was about 5250 terminal emulation - felt very old

tombull89

"Thanx alot for yoyr quick reply i honestly appretiate." No. Just...No. Put down your keyboard and jump out a window.

Bart De Vos

"This post has been deleted - no more edits are allowed"

so close

Chopper3

dude works for oed.com too

tombull89

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Bart De Vos

4:07 PM

I remember this dude actually, Big Dane was his other user name, he also asked questions about his ASA. Think it was a couple of weeks ago...

months*

tombull89

username tchipa password JUU.kVt2Und.Vd23 encrypted privilege 15 o.O

Chopper3

wow

Chris S

@tombull89 Anyone run that through the rainbow table yet?

Or is that only the enable password that there are rainbow tables for?

tombull89

@ChrisS He'll be back in a few days wanting to know why all traffic is being passed to russianbrides.ru or something...

Bart De Vos

google.com/…

This guy is all over the place :D

just google it :)

tombull89

4:09 PM

@BartDeVos BWAHAHA.

eurgh...I feel for that guy commenting on the tech21century.com article.

Chris S

Yeah; it's only the enable password; the user passwords are salted.

tombull89

Shame.

voretaq7

@ChrisS mixed salted nutcases?

tombull89

@voretaq7 More like 100% pure nut.

Chris S

@voretaq7 Just not as easy to lookup his password... It's still MD5.

t1nt1n

4:16 PM

Hey guys.

MarkM

@t1nt1n yo

Bart De Vos

@t1nt1n Hi

t1nt1n

Hows things. I see there has been some debat about the ASA questions

Bart Silverstrim

ARE YOU BLOODY !@#% ME?!

I disabled SNMP on the IP port for the printers and they reverted from offline to online...

They seem to actually be working now.

Are. You. @#$%. Me.

tombull89

@t1nt1n "debate" or "sheer incredibility at the inability to speak coherant english?"

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MarkM

4:19 PM

@BartSilverstrim welcome to the jungle

Bart Silverstrim

THREE BLOODY HOURS WRESTLING WITH THAT PRINTER DRIVER. THREE HOURS I hate you with the fire of a thousand support calls.

voretaq7

@MarkM @BartSilverstrim Printers are bad. Def-Definitely BAD. Gonna need to hit them with a truck. Big truck.

Peter Grace

wait a sec... So the ASA guy.. He bought a, what, $9000 firewall and is trying to use it to protect a website he's writing in "My Easy PHP Website"?

Bart De Vos

@MarkM @BartSilverstrim Hell, I used to work for Ricoh, I know your pain

We delivered support on those things

Chopper3

@PeterGrace probably got it from a pawn shop

Peter Grace

4:22 PM

I will definitely visit there.

Bart Silverstrim

@bartdevos: if you worked for dell I'd ask to kick you in the nuts right about now.

Peter Grace

@MarkM I'm on it.

Chris S

I hate buying stuff from pawn shops; it's always beat to hell.

MarkM

Bart Silverstrim

I like buying them from prawn shops, but scuba gear is expensive.

I take it the ASA guy isn't English-as-first-language?

tombull89

4:23 PM

@BartSilverstrim Or second...or third...

Also, WTF EasyPHP?

Peter Grace

Actually, judging by his vernacular I'd say he's probably from the ghetto

Bart De Vos

@BartSilverstrim I don't know, I picture this guy: madebyotherpeople.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/…

Peter Grace

(NOT TO GENERALIZE -- I GREW UP THERE TOO)

Chopper3

He's from Angola - seriously, don't they need a big bag of rice and some AZT more than a crappy website? one ASA could handle all of africa's traffic surely?

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Peter Grace

interesting

My answer would be "I think your ASA needs service. Please send it to me so I can fix it for youa"

Chopper3

4:29 PM

they have child-soldiers there, maybe he's a child-sysadmin, 9-pin async cable in one hand, AK in the other

Bart De Vos

:)

voretaq7

@PeterGrace You forgot to prefix it with "Most honourable sir,"

Peter Grace

@voretaq7 LOL

Bart Silverstrim

A sysadmin with an AK. My dream for handling problems.

Peter Grace

bleh. How about an AR-15?

Server Fault Blog: Welcome Server Fault Valued Associate #000003

Posted by George Beech (@GABeech) on October 13th, 2011

We have gone and done it, we’ve expanded our Systems Administration team to THREE people. I’d like to introduce you to Peter Grace who we have just brought on board as our third sysadmin.

This is the second company I’ve had the honor of working with Pete at, and I can say that he is an exemplary System Administrator. In addition to being a great sysadmin, Pete is a fellow gun enthusiast, which increases our zombie attack survival rate by 35%.

Pete and I have done many great things together in the past, and I’m very excited about what he brings to us and the great things he, Kyle and myself are going to do as we move forward doing our part to make the internet better. …

MarkM

4:33 PM

Dearest Sir,

I am writing this query in regard to the most difficult problem I have faced in the multitude of technology work. My Cisco ASA does not traffic allow users to my DMZ site. If you are able to assist, I can repay you with the riches of our prince, who is imprisoned and has had his assets seized. By assisting me in this most urgent matter, you will allow these assets to be moved into your bank account for your most royal of services.

Thank You,
Big D

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Bart De Vos

Got to love the clear description Remedy Gives you...

Peter Grace

@MarkM -- I wont encourage you to put that in as a comment, but, whoo boy, that'd be rather amusing and offensive.

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Bart Silverstrim

If he's not a native English speaker, it's probably offensive. If he is a native English speaker, I don't care if it's offensive or not.

voretaq7

021272723 123456789012345678901.
GIMMEH MONEYS AND I FIX YOUR NETWORKS!

Bart De Vos

I'm calling it a day ;)

have fun :)

bye

t1nt1n

4:39 PM

bye

Chopper3

their GDP/capita is only $4.5kpa - he must be their version of Stephen HAWKING to let him have an ASA

Chris S

@Chopper3 you're still assuming he paid for it...

t1nt1n

ebay?

Chopper3

I did mention 'pawn' earlier

voretaq7

@Chopper3 prawns?

Chopper3

4:44 PM

hmmm

Chris S

@t1nt1n Still goes for about $2000 on eBay; and technically that doesn't come with a PIXos license (last time I read their licensing contract anyway, it's non-transferable)

Peter Grace

@voretaq7 wrong country for prawns. That'd be South Africa.

t1nt1n

@ChrisS didnt know about the license.

Peter Grace

cisco is very weird about licensing that way

Chris S

@t1nt1n Just re-read it; it's still the same... All software licensed by Cisco is non-transferable (except under certain conditions; not normal...).

Peter Grace

4:50 PM

they dont want people getting cheap hardware

well, more accurately, they claim they don't want to have to support hardware that hasn't been "certified by cisco"

Chris S

@PeterGrace It applies to their own hardware too.

t1nt1n

good comment here.

in terms of quality, no, there's no rackspace-like hosting! i'm brazilian!

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Q: Latency, Ping and Other Questions

In a high traffic application, like an online auction system, few ms could determine 'to win or 'to loose' the 'battle'. I'm from Brazil. Here, I 'ping' local sites - like UOL - and receive replies in ~ 11ms. When I 'ping' US sites - like RackSpace - I receive replies in ~ 130 ms! o.O The poi...

ping latency

im off guys

talk thursday

MikeyB

5:08 PM

Don't worry guys, I'm anonymouse.

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Q: How to survive anonymouse DDOS attack?

Every time the anonymous group targets a website, it take it down.. even for large corporates / governments with professional. I read (basic reading) about dealing with normal DDOS attack, with DDOS protection techniques. But why do these techniques fails in case of Anonymous group attacks? Is...

ddos anonymous

Hee, ♥ GIS: archives.pawpet.tv/albums/2010/2010-08-29/… #nsfw

Ward

5:23 PM

I don't think this would be a good question even if he fixes the formatting:

-1

Q: email problems with directing to local ip

I am trying to direct emails to a local ip address and using another ip for website. The local guy told me to set it up like this but it is not working . It is still going to the local webmail on my cPanel Zone File Records Name TTL Class Type Record Action odomnursery.com. 14400 I...

email emailserver

sorry, wrong tab, meant for vote to close.

MarkM

@Ward No problem. Same effect :D

Ward

Another short vote-to-close aside: this got migrated to SU, but it's crap that should've been closed here. Remember, we can't bitch about SO dumping crap on us if we do the same to SU

0

Q: Most common WiFi Devices in Residential use?

I need to know if there are any statistics available regarding the most commonly used WiFi devices in residential use. Also, I would like to know if there are other common devices on residential networks. I am thinking that the Telco-service industry would have access to statistics like these.

networking wifi

It got closed as NC on SU

Robert Moir

5:39 PM

agreed @ward

Iain

If we ask they can send it back to us so we can do the right thing

Holocryptic

@Ward It was MOD-ulated

Robert Moir

I'm honestly beginning to wonder if migrating posts should be restricted to mods, plus people who have rep > x on the target site

I know I've voted to move stuff I thought would work on another site to see it closed in a hurry...

Holocryptic

@RobertMoir Stuff would never get migrated then

I know I don't have any number of rep on the other sites

Things would just get closed, and people would then be encouraged to double post

Robert Moir

Or at least, less often. I know it would kill migrations, the only place other than here I have rep >1000 is mSO but it would solve the problem... and create new ones, I know

MarkM

5:50 PM

@RobertMoir Something like > 90% of all migrated posts are not closed on the target site, meaning that they were good migrations.

I forget the exact number, but @voretaq7 brought it up on m.so

There's certainly room for improvement, but everyone does a decently well job. The perception is that there are a lot of shitty migrations, because the worst ones stick out in our memories more.

Holocryptic

Trying to find single living apartments that don't cost an arm and a leg or have you living in squalor is such a pain in the ass...

voretaq7

@Holocryptic man up and live in squalor!

MarkM

@Holocryptic Depends on your price range and location I guess. There are a lot of options in the Philly area that are reasonable.

Blog.SF

Server Fault Blog: Putting a Value on Backups

Posted by Kyle Brandt (@kylembrandt) on November 8th, 2011

Backups are just one of the many responsibilities of system administrators. IT Generalists have many areas to cover so they probably don’t take the time to make spreadsheets to measure the cost of data loss as they might in The Enterprise. However, investing time in trying to place a value on your backups can provide perspective on just what a terrific responsibility backups can be.

At Stack Exchange, I view our users and our user contributed content as the company’s most valuable asset. We have a lot of talent in the company, and our user contributed content isn’t even our di …

Holocryptic

@MarkM DC metro area

@voretaq7 I have a thing about not shacking up with cockroaches

MarkM

5:56 PM

DC's notoriously expensive, right?

Holocryptic

Yep

I'm trying to stay in the N. VA area

Peter Grace

Wait, Kyle's brought out TWO big blogs in the time it's taken me to write my second? THIS IS UNCONSCIONABLE

Kyle Brandt

@PeterGrace: Its okay, might be because you are busy doing, you know, what one might call real work ;-)

MarkM

@PeterGrace Don't worry. The only traffic the blog gets is from people that accidentally click it before they realize that it replaced the chat link for no apparent reason.

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voretaq7

@MarkM Bait and Switch traffic generation really works!

Kyle Brandt

5:59 PM

Hmm... where is that BAN button... devs are always moving it on me

MarkM

Juuuuust kidding, but seriously, can you guys sucker punch Jeff for thinking that replacing the chat link with the blog link is a good idea.

Maybe format his PC or something?

Iain

@RobertMoir for poor migrations from SO that will be quickly closed I have taken to following the link back to SO, flagging and explaining that it's canonical don't migrate crap. If you think it has a better fit elsewhere you can go to SO and flag it asking them to move it to the better place too.

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